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Old 04-10-2011, 04:14 AM
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Would that some person of integrity

Took a concealed video camera 'behind closed doors' to film the negotiations, and then released it.They 'cooked up' the whole title 10 funding, just so the Dems could show they were 'fighting for their bases issues' just as the repubs were 'fighting' for theirs. They knew all along they were going to drop the title 10 de-funding, and they knew they were not going to 'shut it down'.
Behind closed doors they were much more cordial than they were in front of the cameras.
Look at it this way, Rick. There is You, Boener and Mitchell. Which of you have more in common, and which is 'odd man out'? They, politicians, have much more in common with each other, than they will ever have with you or me.
They won't refuse to raise the debt limit, no way. And so, our fate is sealed.
I admire your optimism, but fear it is unfounded.The 'Democratic' form of Gov't. is dead, has been for a long time.killed by its own inherent failings, and those of human 'nature'.Jim
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They won't refuse to raise the debt limit, no way. And so, our fate is sealed. I admire your optimism, but fear it is unfounded.
As things currently stand, what you say is quite correct, but I'm not ready to "throw in the towel" and give up yet. The vote on raising the debt limit will be happening in about a month from now, and this intervening time period gives us one last chance to save our nation and alter the course of history. As I mentioned previously, there are 241 House Republicans, and a NO vote by just 218 of them is all that is needed to not only stop raising the debt ceiling, but to also - in the words of WND founder Joseph Farah -"completely tie the hands of Obama and the Democrats for the next two years. They themselves – the Democrats – would be forced to make massive cuts in spending that would require defunding Obamacare, pulling the plug on Planned Parenthood, even killing entrenched unconstitutional bureaucracies like the Department of Education. They simply wouldn't have any choice."

Two months ago, Joseph Farah launched a No More Red Ink campaign with the intention of convincing House Republicans that they must vote against raising the debt limit. At the time the campaign started, only about 6 House Republicans were on board, stating that they would vote NO. The No More Red Ink campaign has been startlingly successful so far, as there are now 142 Republicans (a clear majority) dead set against raising the debt limit. It would appear that the other 99 House Republicans are confused, and believing that the debt limit must be raised simply because that is what their leadership tells them, along with what they have heard from Fed chairman Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Geithner, who are both adamant that the debt limit must be raised. The question that remains to be answered is whether or not 76 of these 99 representatives can be convinced to side with the 142 that are already committed to voting NO. In fact, 76 may not be necessary because there are almost certainly some " Blue Dog" Democrats who will vote against raising the debt limit. Note that there are 25 Democrats in the House's Blue Dog Coalition.

Now here's what needs to be done, without delay:
  • Look on the following list of Blue Dog Democrats to see if your state representative is found. If so, e-mail and call his or her local office and demand that your representative vote against raising the debt limit.
Members in the 112th Congress
  1. Jason Altmire (PA-4)
  2. Joe Baca (CA-43)
  3. John Barrow (GA-12), Co-Chair for Policy
  4. Sanford Bishop (GA-2)
  5. Dan Boren (OK-2), Blue Dog Whip
  6. Leonard Boswell (IA-3)
  7. Dennis Cardoza (CA-18)
  8. Ben Chandler (KY-6)
  9. Jim Cooper (TN-5)
  10. Jim Costa (CA-20)
  11. Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
  12. Joe Donnelly (IN-2)
  13. Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8)
  14. Tim Holden (PA-17)
  15. Jim Matheson (UT-2)
  16. Mike McIntyre (NC-7)
  17. Mike Michaud (ME-2)
  18. Collin Peterson (MN-7)
  19. Mike Ross (AR-4), Co-Chair for Communications
  20. Loretta Sanchez (CA-47)
  21. Adam Schiff (CA-29)
  22. Kurt Schrader (OR-5)
  23. David Scott (GA-13)
  24. Heath Shuler (NC-11), Co-Chair for Administration
  25. Mike Thompson (CA-1)
  • If your state representative in the House is a Republican, call his or her local office and be persistent at demanding to know how your representative will vote on this matter. Often, getting any kind of commitment answer on a vote is just about impossible, and the typical reply is from a clerk who says, "thanks for calling, I'll inform representative so-and-so of your views." If you ask for a reply from the representative, you typically get a form letter saying that the representative will be considering the matter very carefully, and appreciates your viewpoint. You need to be insistent upon a definite answer to your question, and if the representative can't answer because he or she is undecided then you need to at least determine which way he or she is leaning on the issue, and what is preventing the representative from taking a firm stand with the 142 who have already stated they will vote NO. If you can't get a firm answer then you need to call the local office every day, or even multiple times each day until you do get an answer. Be relentless!
  • Perhaps the most effective tactic of all, and in combination with the above, is to participate in the No More Red Ink campaign, which targets just the 241 Republicans who control the House. Joseph Farah explains the campaign thusly: "We empowered Americans with a tool that allowed them inexpensively and efficiently to send red letters to all 241 Republican House members urging them to say no to any hike in the debt limit – an action that would require the federal government to stop borrowing immediately and make the biggest cuts in spending in the history of the country. So far, we have enabled nearly 1 million of those letters to be delivered to House Republicans." To take part in the No More Red Ink campaign, and send a red letter to all 241 House Republicans, go here.
The debt ceiling vote was originally scheduled for March, but has been pushed further away and this gives us a last chance to convince timid establishment Republicans, RINO's, and Blue Dog Democrats that they must vote NO. Tell them you will be watching their vote on this matter very closely, and that you will definitely not vote for their reelection in 2012 if they cast a YES vote. Tell them it is time to get their HOUSE in order and stop runaway, unsustainable deficit spending once and for all.


Read more: An urgent message from WND's Joseph Farah An urgent message from WND's Joseph Farah

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Old 04-10-2011, 06:10 PM
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Don't see it;

Dems are already out in full force, saying that refusing to raise the debt cieling would be the equivalent of the U.S. Gov't filing bankruptcy; that it would destroy 'Full faith and credit' in the U.S. Gov't to make good on its debts.
To me, it seems like this is not filing bankruptcy; thats refusing to honor your debts.This is the equivalent of getting a letter from the credit card companies, saying you have reached your limit, and 'offering' to increase the limit, and saying "No, Thanks!"
It is simply the FIRST step in getting your house in order, creditwise.Second step, start paying more than just the minimum balance, so that over time, you pay down your balance.
These 2 actions require a third; cut back on spending.So, little johnie has to stop taking violin lessons, you stop going out to dinner and a movie every Friday night, etc.Some of the cuts are painful, but have to be done, in order to pay down that balance.
Sure, you can TRY to increase income, taking a second job, whatever. (Taxes) But thats more difficult to sustain, than cutting spending.
A great many families have had to go thru this process, and if those in favor of NOT raising the debt limit can frame it this way, I think they can counter the Dems attempts to say that refusing to increase the debt limit would 'run us over the cliff'. We heard that as justification for the bail-out, and I don't think moist people were convinced.
In the end, I think Repubs will hold out for the greatest concessions they can, and then the debt cieling will be raised.But then I'm the 'optimist' in this sense; Pessimist says "It can't POSSIBLY get any worse!",... and Optimist says "Oh, yes it CAN!!"Jim
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Read this article about how George Soros is destroying the US in order to have World government and get very very angry:

Globalist George Soros: “America Should Be Replaced By a World Government With a Global Currency Under UN Rule” | Real News Reporter

(notice his ethnicity)
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:46 AM
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Re: Gerge Soros

Yes, I posted a link to another interesting and fact filled article about Soros here, that is also well worth reading, for those who may have missed it earlier.

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Old 04-11-2011, 12:55 PM
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The debt ceiling vote was originally scheduled for March, but has been pushed further away and this gives us a last chance to convince timid establishment Republicans, RINO's, and Blue Dog Democrats that they must vote NO. Tell them you will be watching their vote on this matter very closely, and that you will definitely not vote for their reelection in 2012 if they cast a YES vote. Tell them it is time to get their HOUSE in order and stop runaway, unsustainable deficit spending once and for all.


Read more: An urgent message from WND's Joseph Farah An urgent message from WND's Joseph Farah
Hi Rickoff
I agree the reduction was not enough. It was not enough by a long shot. But it is atleast a start. And perhaps just perhaps maybe they will get the hint and start to cut more. I doubt it, but we can only hope...
Between the Congress (Rinos and Democrats both) Obama and Soros, I am sorry to say that perhaps it is time to water the Liberty Tree again.
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I guess I'm a bit confused, Al.

Natural Born Citizen: Under natural law, and accepted worldwide without question, one is a "natural born citizen" if born in a country to parents who are both citizens of that country. Obama does not qualify under this mandate of Presidential eligibility stated in the US Constitution, since even if born in Hawaii (which is as yet unproven) his father was a Kenyan and British subject.

Obama would never have been a US citizen if born in Kenya, since his mother was too young at the time to confer citizenship status on him upon entering the United States.

"Naturalized" status can only grant citizenship status. It can not grant "natural born citizen" status, and is not the same.
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April 2000 report by the Congressional Research Service, most constitutional scholars interpret Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution as including citizens born to parents who are U.S. citizens under the "natural born" requirement.

2008 Lawrence Solum stated that Anyone born on American soil whose parents are citizens of the United States is a 'natural born citizen'.

In April 2010 Solum he changed his opinion to include persons born in the United States of one American citizen parent. He further extended natural born citizenship to all cases of jus soli as the "conventional view".

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Barack Obama (descendant of Edward I of England and William the Lion of Scotland)
What are the odds that an Ordinary Natural Born, from one of the Republics, will serve as US corp.’s president?
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Whistleblower magazine, ...Soros creates and financially sustains more than 150 influential and shockingly anti-American organizations – all dedicated to converting America into a European-style, government-controlled, socialist state. ...America stands in the way of globalist progress and he's going to do everything in his power to bring America to its knees."
who runs us?

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Old 04-12-2011, 03:34 AM
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Economic Woes

12 signs of U.S. hyperinflation
Will rampant inflation destroy the dollar?

WORLD NET DAILY- RED ALERT
April 4, 2011
Red Alert has warned for at least two years that the monetization of the federal debt undertaken by the Federal Reserve is the precursor to hyperinflation.
Now, the National Inflation Association has issued 12 warning signs of hyperinflation.
"In our estimation, the most likely time frame for a full-fledged outbreak of hyperinflation is between the years 2013 and 2015," the National Inflation Association warns. "Americans who wait until 2013 to prepare will most likely see the majority of their purchasing power wiped out. It is essential that Americans begin preparing for hyperinflation immediately."
The fear is that with hyperinflation, the purchasing power of the dollar will diminish so drastically that the wealth of millions of middle-class Americans will be severely impacted, possibly even wiped out.
At the extreme, hyperinflation could be the prelude for the destruction of the dollar.


Here are the 12 warning signs that hyperinflation is imminent:
1) The Federal Reserve is buying 70 percent of U.S. Treasuries. In recent months, central bank purchases of U.S. treasuries have declined from 50 percent to 30 percent, while Fed purchases have increased from 10 percent to 70 percent.
2) The private sector has stopped purchasing U.S. Treasuries. The private sector, once responsible for purchasing up to 30 percent of U.S. Treasury debt, has stopped buying Treasuries. At the same time, top bond funds, like the PIMCO Total Return Fund, once the largest private sector owner of U.S. government bonds, has reduced its holdings of U.S. Treasury debt to zero.
3) China has begun moving away from the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency. Today, the dollar is no longer backed by gold, and China has the world's largest manufacturing base. The People's Bank of China has agreed to allow the yuan to be used as a reserve currency. All China needs to do is use its $1.15 trillion in U.S. dollar reserves to accumulate gold and use that gold to back the yuan.
4) Japan is beginning to dump U.S. Treasuries. Japan is the second largest holder of U.S. Treasury debt, with $885.9 billion in U.S. dollar reserves. Japan may have to spend as much as $300 billion over the next year to rebuild after the compound disaster of the recent earthquake, tsunami and nuclear meltdown. Japan is likely to reduce their Treasury holdings and slow their purchases of new Treasuries as the nation focuses on rebuilding.
5) The fed funds rate remains near zero. The Fed has held the fed funds rate at 0.00-0.25 percent since Dec. 16, 2008, a period of 27 months. This low of a rate is unprecedented, with banks being flooded with excess liquidity of U.S. dollars. The dollar has become the new "carry trade," available for member banks to borrow at zero and use for speculation in the stock, commodities and currencies markets.
6) Year-over-year CPI growth has increased 92 percent in three months. An increase in year-over-year CPI (Consumer Price Index) growth from 1.1 percent in November 2010 to 2.11 percent in February 2011 means that the CPI's growth rate has increased by approximately 92 percent over a period of just three months.
7) Mainstream media denying Fed's target passed. The media are now claiming that the Fed's informal inflation target of 1.5 percent to 2 percent is based off year-over-year changes in the Bureau of Labor Statistics core-CPI figures. Core-CPI excludes food and energy prices. Including food and energy in the calculation would leave no doubt that the Fed's inflation target is not being met.
8) Record U.S. budget deficit in February 2011 was $222.5 billion. The federal budget deficit in February 2011, $222.5 billion, was more than the entire fiscal year of 2007. February's deficit on an annualized basis was $2.67 trillion.
9) High budget deficit as percentage of expenditures. The projected U.S. budget deficit for fiscal year 2011 of $1.645 trillion is 43 percent of total government expenditures in 2011 of $3.819 trillion. That is almost the same level of Brazil's budget deficit as a percentage of expenditures just before Brazil experienced hyperinflation in 1993, and the ratio is higher than Bolivia experienced right before Bolivia's hyperinflation in 1985.
10) Obama lies about foreign policy. Obama campaigned that he would take troops out of Iraq. Now Obama has increased troop levels in Afghanistan, and he is on the verge of sending troops into Libya, causing a third U.S. war in the Middle East. The U.S. is now spending $1 trillion annually on military expenses, including the costs of maintaining more than 700 U.S. military bases in 135 countries around the world.
11) Obama changes definition of balanced budget. Obama has recently redefined "balanced budget" to exclude interest payments on the national debt because the White House knows interest payments are about to explode and it will be impossible to truly balance the budget.

12) U.S. faces largest ever interest payment increases. The U.S. is almost certain to experience a large spike in long-term bond yields, as creditors demand more compensation for financing U.S. debt. Interest payments could reach $500 billion within the next year or two, and more than $1 trillion by mid-decade. When interest payments reach $1 trillion, interest will account for 30 to 40 percent of government tax receipts, up from interest payments being only 9 percent of tax receipts today. No nation has ever seen interest payments on national debt reach 40 percent of tax receipts without experiencing hyperinflation.

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Thanks Rick. Regional currency is the answer ask these people they are already using it and wont suffer.

Competing currency being accepted across Mid-Michigan : News : ConnectMidMichigan.com
Ithaca HOURs Online: Home Page
YouTube - Ithaca Hours news stories - Part 1
YouTube - Local Community Currency Money - Stephanie Mills - 1 of 2
Damanhur Federation - Economic vision & Credito

back in the great depression regional currency worked also
the worgl schillings

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Old 04-12-2011, 07:02 AM
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Hyperinflation; edumacate me, please

Only thing i know about hyperinflation is the story about the german goes to buy a loaf of bread with a wheelbarrow full of cash, won't fit thru door of bakery, leaves it outside while he negotiates price of bread, someone dumps out cash and steals wheelbarrow.
So, I've lived thru periods of inflation; every week prices go up.Is hyper inflation like that, only just keeps going, or is it accelerated, or is it all at once? And, how does it end.How did it end in Germany? Was it the military build-up prior to WW2 that ended it, ot had it ended before that? How has it ended in other countries?What does history show?
Not that history repeats itself exactly the same, but it at least gives us some idea.Anyone? Jim
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The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists. Ernest Hemingway
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Good morning
Although the Weimar Republic had to pay war reperations from WWI the monatary policies were still the same as ours and will give the same result A ruined nation controled by a not so benevolent dictator.

In addition to the inflation, Weimar under Hitler allowed drugs and alcohol to flow freely so that is citizens would be numb to what is going on around them. (The US southern border is still open and allowing drugs to flow in)

Weimar under Hitler allowed and almost encouraged decadent behavior to keep the population dumb and happy while the goverment slowly removed basic civil rights.(Between the internet and TV we now have porn coming into our homes, and the politically correct are forcing us to accept any and all behaviors as the norm. But in the mean time all of our amendments are under siege)

In Weimar under Hitler the goverment control of business and whole industries was subtle and for the public good.( The auto and banking industry bail outs were for the "benefit" of a floundering economy.)

The Weimar under Hitler pointed to a common enemy to unite the population as a result WWII and the final solution started. (Although 9-11 was the catalist of our cutrrent wars, Obama wanted them stopped and it was his critisim of war that got him elected. Now that it is in his own political interests he is ramping up the troops in Afganastan and looking at expanding the battle into Lybia)
The parrallels are frightening
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:25 PM
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Ron Paul may bid for US corp.'s CEO see:
YouTube - Alex Jones - Ron Paul - April 5 2011 - part 1/2
YouTube - Alex Jones - Ron Paul - April 5 2011 - part 2/2

In the interview he stated:

The new world order people see it as an opportunity to move one step forward.

They go to war under NATO and the UN, not by the Congress.

The new world order is certainly looking at this monetary crisis, we want the Constitution, sound money, gold and silver, but at the same time the internationalists are planning for their international fiat currency.

The bankruptcy will bring us to our knees, but lets just hope we can put it back together in a lot better shape than we have it now.

there are just a few other things I have to iron out personally to make my final decision.


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Googled 'hyperinflation'

After my last post, and stayed up late reading.It CAN happen super fast, almost over night.Governments will try price controls, which contributes to shortages, as people refuse to sell at a loss.They are then BLAMED for the problem; called 'horders'.Gov't try issueing new currency, with 'exchange rate' doesn't really help.Usually, revolution or war is the 'way out'.

One thing I'm going to have a problem with; debtors can benefit from hyper-inflation; they pay off debts with worthless hyper-inflated dollars. Definetly don't want to be a creditor, tho. Thing is, I've been pursueing "Neither a borrower nor a lender be" since before 2008 'financial crises', and was not really effected by it.Not sure I want to change, now i.e go into debt.

Does re-inforce my thinking; that 'saving' $ now is not a good idea; better to invest in material goods, before price goes up.Or, as stated, put $ into Gold, etc. Also, my reading re-inforces that its not if, its when.Don't see Washington doing anything to prevent/avoid this.Favorite graffitti;
"Flush TWICE, its a long way to Washington D.C.!" Jim
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:32 PM
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I've lived thru periods of inflation; every week prices go up. Is hyper inflation like that, only just keeps going, or is it accelerated, or is it all at once? And, how does it end? How did it end in Germany?
We are already in a period of inflation, and have been ever since the Nixon administration took us off the gold-backed dollar standard. Those of us, like myself, who are old enough to remember the years of our life prior to that time, can recall that inflation was practically non-existant while we were still on the gold standard. Prices on everything you can think of remained low and very stable for years on end.

The current period of inflation is picking up pace, and is reflected in the price of gasoline, diesel, and heating fuels, which are moving upwards nearly every day. Most trucks run on diesel, so prices on all of the products that are delivered to markets will continue to increase to reflect the weekly increase of the diesel fuel price.

When hyperinflation kicks in, prices at the pumps won't just rise a few cents a day as they currently are rising, but rather will take an unexpectedly large leap higher all at once - likely overnight, and due to some major conflict or natural disaster. For instance, gasoline may well go from $4 a gallon to $5 in one day, and to $5.50 or more within the next seven days. After that, things will continue to escalate on a daily basis. The Saudis are already saying that we should expect to pay $300 a barrel for near future oil, which is nearly triple what it now goes for, so at that point gasoline will be over $10 a gallon. The hyperinflation era could also be kick started overnight simply by the dollar being taken off its world currency standard pedestal, and replaced by another currency. No matter how it begins, though, you will definitely know when hyperinflation has begun, as the masses will suddenly be shocked into reality and panic will ensue.

The story about the German wheelbarrow has been retold a great many times, and relates to a factual event. The person who stole the wheelbarrow realized that the wheelbarrow actually had value, while the mound of money inside it did not, so dumped the money on the street to lighten his load before making off with the greater asset.

In Germany, the inflationary panic actually ended when they began using US dollars to pay worker salaries. Before that, workers were demanding to be paid every hour, rather than daily or weekly, because their money was decreasing in value so fast. So it was the US dollar that saved them, and ended their hyperinflationary period. And that was because the US dollar was rock solid and backed by gold, but that isn't the case any more, which means that we will have to rely on something else.

Until there is a widely accepted currency that is backed by gold or silver, or something else of real value, then our financial salvation lies in realizing that hyperinflation is coming, and converting our savings dollars - as quickly as possible - to some true asset, be it precious metals, real estate, or whatever. It needs to be a tangible, true asset, and preferably a highly liquid asset, which means that it is always going to be in high demand and can easily be partially exchanged for other goods or assets, or entirely liquidated when the need arises. It is difficult to partially liquidate real estate, of course, unless it is a sizable land mass that can be divided into many smaller parcels, each to be disposed of whenever necessary.

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We are already in a period of inflation, and have been ever since the Nixon administration took us off the gold-backed dollar standard. Those of us, like myself, who are old enough to remember the years of our life prior to that time, can recall that inflation was practically non-existant while we were still on the gold standard. Prices on everything you can think of remained low and very stable for years on end.

The current period of inflation is picking up pace, and is reflected in the price of gasoline, diesel, and heating fuels, which are moving upwards nearly every day. Most trucks run on diesel, so prices on all of the products that are delivered to markets will continue to increase to reflect the weekly increase of the diesel fuel price.

When hyperinflation kicks in, prices at the pumps won't just rise a few cents a day as they currently are rising, but rather will take an unexpectedly large leap higher all at once - likely overnight, and due to some major conflict or natural disaster. For instance, gasoline may well go from $4 a gallon to $5 in one day, and to $5.50 or more within the next seven days. After that, things will continue to escalate on a daily basis. The Saudis are already saying that we should expect to pay $300 a barrel for near future oil, which is nearly triple what it now goes for, so at that point gasoline will be over $10 a gallon. The hyperinflation era could also be kick started overnight simply by the dollar being taken off its world currency standard pedestal, and replaced by another currency. No matter how it begins, though, you will definitely know when hyperinflation has begun, as the masses will suddenly be shocked into reality and panic will ensue.

The story about the German wheelbarrow has been retold a great many times, and relates to a factual event. The person who stole the wheelbarrow realized that the wheelbarrow actually had value, while the mound of money inside it did not, so dumped the money on the street to lighten his load before making off with the greater asset.

In Germany, the inflationary panic actually ended when they began using US dollars to pay worker salaries. Before that, workers were demanding to be paid every hour, rather than daily or weekly, because their money was decreasing in value so fast. So it was the US dollar that saved them, and ended their hyperinflationary period. And that was because the US dollar was rock solid and backed by gold, but that isn't the case any more, which means that we will have to rely on something else.

Until there is a widely accepted currency that is backed by gold or silver, or something else of real value, then our financial salvation lies in realizing that hyperinflation is coming, and converting our savings dollars - as quickly as possible - to some true asset, be it precious metals, real estate, or whatever. It needs to be a tangible, true asset, and preferably a highly liquid asset, which means that it is always going to be in high demand and can easily be partially exchanged for other goods or assets, or entirely liquidated when the need arises. It is difficult to partially liquidate real estate, of course, unless it is a sizable land mass that can be divided into many smaller parcels, each to be disposed of whenever necessary.

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*All

It's the same old game here, smoke and mirrors.

My Way News - Budget tricks helped Obama save programs from cuts

I'm really getting tired of the so called 'NEWS'. It is so micro-managed by the government that all it contains is BS that has nothing to do with what is taking place. Last night I watched four news cast across two different networks and not a one mentioned that Japan had raised the level of reactor damage to the highest.

What is sad is that the EPA was also left intact by them less than intelligent people proclaiming to be looking out for us. Texas power rates may triple as a result of the EPA and the Obama mandate that Green in in one way or another.

Looking back a few posts 'Water the Liberty Tree', no! Take a small clipping if one can be found and uproot the parent. There is no saving what exists.
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What is he hiding?

As Obama himself points out, at 1:53 elapsed time in this video, "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with somethin' to hide."

Never were truer words spoken by someone who lies so often. We can only imagine what Obama is actually hiding by refusing to release his long form birth certificate, but it certainly is obvious that, by refusing to do so, he definitely has something to hide.

Chiyome Fukino, former head of the Hawaiian state agency in charge of birth records, said that the Certification of Live Birth displayed by the Obama campaign in 2008 is the only document the state releases. "He [Obama] put out exactly what everybody gets when they ask for a birth certificate." Joshua Wisch, of the Hawaii attorney general's office, went further, telling MSNBC that, "It's a Department of Health record and it can't be released to anybody," saying there are no provisions that authorize copying such records.

The above statements by Fukino and Wisch have been proven to be lies, however. Copies of other persons' long form birth certificates have been obtained and posted on the Internet. Here are examples:

Here is a copy of a long form certificate obtained by Susan Nordyke, who was born in Honolulu August 5, 1961, the day after Obama's birth.





On Oct. 13, 2010, a contributor with the username "Danae" posted on FreeRepublic.com a copy of her
long-form birth certificate originally issued in 1969, but which the Hawaii Department of Health mailed to her
on Sept. 28, 2010, after she paid a $10 fee.
An image of her posting:


To verify her transaction, she also posted a receipt she was sent Sept. 28, 2010, by the Hawaii state agency,
documenting the $10 fee to get her long-form, hospital-generated certificate.
Here is that image:





"Danae" followed up with a photograph of her original long-form, hospital-generated
certificate of live birth side-by-side with the copy she was sent:


She went even further, posting an image of both of those documents along with a short-form COLB,
similar to the one presented by Obama's campaign, that she also had asked the Hawaii Department of Health to produce:


"Danae" obtained her long-form, hospital-generated certificate of birth to win a $200 bet with another FreeRepublic participant operating under the username "STARWISE." STARWISE dared someone to prove he or she could get a long-form birth certificate from the Hawaii DOH after 2001, when the Hawaii DOH went electronic and agency spokeswoman Janice Okubo claimed they quit issuing such documents.

In fact, the Hawaii Revised Statutes, Paragraph 38-13(a) specifies that the agency "shall, upon request, furnish an applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof." Further, subparagraph C allows that copies of birth certificates "may be made by photograph, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health."

According to a report in "The Post & Email" blog by Miki Booth, others have gotten long-form documents from Hawaii, too. She wrote, "When my son, Alan, requested a copy of his birth certificate he got just that – a "Certificate of Live Birth," not the same as Obama's 'Certification.' Different titles and different information. Obama's is sorely lacking information required for obtaining a passport – Mother's State/Country of Birth and Father's State/Country of Birth," she wrote.
Further, she wrote about the experience of a friend, whose name was not revealed, just this year. She released an image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" that appears to be a long-form document with much additional detail not included in a short-form "Certification of Live Birth." She said the long-form "Certificate of Live Birth" was obtained from Hawaii quite recently, in March 2011.
The image she posted on the Post & Email site:



The above documents clearly show that we were lied to by Hawaiian officials, but what does Hawaii law actually state about release of birth records? That section of Hawaii law states, regarding the release of vital statistics records, "The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record."

Hmm, and how do they suppose that we, the American Public, do not have a "direct and tangible interest" in obtaining a copy of the original record when it is the only document that could either verify or renounce Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth? If it renounced his claim, then by default he is an illegal usurper of the Presidency, and likely an illegal alien as well, so of course we have a "direct and tangible interest" in learning the truth of the matter. I hope Donald Trump uses his power and influence to pursue disclosure of the original record on that basis.

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Hmm, and how do they suppose that we, the American Public, do not have a "direct and tangible interest" in obtaining a copy of the original record when it is the only document that could either verify or renounce Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth? If it renounced his claim, then by default he is an illegal usurper of the Presidency, and likely an illegal alien as well, so of course we have a "direct and tangible interest" in learning the truth of the matter. I hope Donald Trump uses his power and influence to pursue disclosure of the original record on that basis.
Okay, so it is at last found that he is not a valid president and maybe an illegal, so what do you feel this will accomplish?

What would be done and by who?
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What would be done and by who?
Hi Dr Stiffler
The Congress and the courts need to remove him from office. If they can't or won't....
The military needs to remove him from office. If they cant or wont....
The malitias will.
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The Congress and the courts need to remove him from office. If they can't or won't....
The military needs to remove him from office. If they cant or wont....
The malitias will.
Bizzy
And that is how the Liberty Tree gets watered and remains healthy.
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Only one problem with all this

If Obama is removed from office, we get hoof in mouth Biden as pres.Which is probably why he was selected; sort of an 'Insurance' policy.He may be a 'natural born citisen, but he's way too close to the oval office, as it is.
Unless someone wanted to say that since Obama's election was 'illegal' Bidens is too, since they were on the same ticket.So then, who's next? Boener, as Speaker, right? Well, I guess I could live with that,....Jim
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Back to hyperinflation

Got wife's 401k, decent amount building up in it. Can't put in gold, so wondering if the foreign 'emerging markets fund might be better than US stocks, as a hedge against inflation or hyperinflation.Or can she quit, and come back a week later, so we can get that $ in a place where we have more options.
Also wondering whats going to happen to IRA's and the companies that manage them.Have one where I can put $ in physical gold; supposedly they actually buy gold and 'hold onto it' for you.Or, should I just take the $ out, pay the penalty, and invest in gold I can hold onto, my own self. If I could be confident of getting the timing right, I could take the $ out, invest in gold, and then pay the penalty in hyperinflated (worthless) dollars! Hmmmm,..Jim

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If Obama is removed from office, we get hoof in mouth Biden as pres.Which is probably why he was selected; sort of an 'Insurance' policy.He may be a 'natural born citisen, but he's way too close to the oval office, as it is.
Unless someone wanted to say that since Obama's election was 'illegal' Bidens is too, since they were on the same ticket.So then, who's next? Boener, as Speaker, right? Well, I guess I could live with that,....Jim

You could use the idea that since Obama's election was illegal his entire ticket was illegal. However a more legal precedant would that Biden was an accomplis. Biden was Obama's running mate so Biden must have known that Obama could not legally run for office. Once supenias start flying, I am certain some aid will come forward to protect him or herself and provide evidenace to show Biden knew.
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Let's hit this point. Trump has investigators checking this all out, right? My guess is that globalists like him will suddenly find the cert. ur all looking for. Just in time for the elections. Will have to be fake or we would have seen it by now. MSM will sell it completely. Listen to me now and believe me later. Apologies will be forth comming and the sheeple will breath a sigh of rellief. You can guess what that means. Won't matter who you vote for. The puppet is in place for another 4 yrs of complete screwing of this and all countries. Hate to be Mr. gloom and doom. Until we truley find ourselves able to give our lives for our country we will take what we get. People, the fix is in and has been for a long time. They have the MATH. 85% of the US is obese.Nothing wrong obese, they're just not awake, or they would realise that thry're being lead to the slaughter in more than one way. They study American Idol and such things. NASA has super computers that know when you fart lol, pretty much tho. They know the MATH. How many people read things like this. It's tiny!! If 20 million people read this it would be huge. I'm thinking 10,000 on a good day. 9 billion and u got a revelotion. I could just go on and on. Thanks for indluging my rant. Scotty, beam me up.
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The Congress and the courts need to remove him from office. If they can't or won't....
The military needs to remove him from office. If they cant or wont....
The malitias will.
Bizzy
Well at last a man that see's a plan. Although forget the Congress and the Courts. Look if they really wanted to do or could do anything, would they not be at it 24/7? What a sweet deal for a party to regain total control, kick him out. No that will never happen IMHO. I also wonder what would happen to all th exec orders he has signed and the laws he signed into law. Would or could all these be null and void?

I feel its up to one or both of the last two possible actions for a clean up and restructure no matter Mr. O's status. It's time to clean house is it not?

Thanks for the insight.
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Got wife's 401k, decent amount building up in it. Can't put in gold, so wondering if the foreign 'emerging markets fund might be better than US stocks, as a hedge against inflation or hyperinflation.Or can she quit, and come back a week later, so we can get that $ in a place where we have more options.
Also wondering whats going to happen to IRA's and the companies that manage them.Have one where I can put $ in physical gold; supposedly they actually buy gold and 'hold onto it' for you.Or, should I just take the $ out, pay the penalty, and invest in gold I can hold onto, my own self. If I could be confident of getting the timing right, I could take the $ out, invest in gold, and then pay the penalty in hyperinflated (worthless) dollars! Hmmmm,..Jim
Why can't wife's IRA be placed in a gold IRA?

The holding companies that safeguard IRA gold assets are probably the most secure sites in the nation. I wouldn't advise you attempting to keep any valuable gold or silver assets in a home safe, or wherever.

As far as taking money out of an IRA and paying the 20% penalty tax on it goes, that's a lot better than just leaving those savings where they are. Consider this - just two years ago gold was around $640 an ounce, and today is around $1,450. That's a 79% increase in value. During the same time period, the dollar has actually fallen in value by an equal percentage. Now suppose there were two people in 2009 that each had $100,00 in an IRA. One withdrew and transferred his assets to a gold IRA. The other left his account alone. The person who left his money alone still has $100,000 (plus some very meager interest added), but in reality his account, if cashed in now, would buy far less than what it could have purchased 2 years ago, especially if he now wants to buy gold. The person who did buy gold could now sell his assets for $179,000. Or better yet, keep those assets in place at least until the end of 2011, when gold is likely to reach $2,000 an ounce and his assets will have appreciated to nearly $250,000 in value. Just remember this fact - gold is not actually increasing in value, it is just that it takes a lot more dollars to buy it because the dollar is falling so fast. Any investment pegged to US dollars has been, and will continue to be a losing investment, even if on paper it looks like you are making gains.
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My IRA is already IN a gold assets one. Thing is, wife also has a 401k thru her work, with matching, etc., 401k's don't give you that many options, and one they don't give is gold.Its starting to build up to a, for us, not insignificant amount.She might have to quit, so she can roll it over into the IRA, and then go back to work at the same place. Kind of like a 'leave of absence', only on paper looks like a ending of employment, just to get the 401k $ freed up. Seems extreme, but I can't think of any other way. Like I said, thats why my other choice would be to put the $ in the offered fund that is 'emerging markets' i.e. companies in other countries. Presumably they wouldn't be tied to the dollar. Jim
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As Obama himself points out, at 1:53 elapsed time in this video, "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with somethin' to hide."

Never were truer words spoken by someone who lies so often. We can only imagine what Obama is actually hiding by refusing to release his long form birth certificate, but it certainly is obvious that, by refusing to do so, he definitely has something to hide.
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"Stanley Armour Dunham's distant cousins include six US presidents: James Madison, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush. [19] Through a common ancestor, Mareen Duvall, ...Stanley Dunham is related to former Vice-President Dick Cheney (an eighth cousin once removed).[2] Through another common ancestor, Hans Gutknecht, ...Stanley Dunham is President Harry S. Truman's fourth cousin, twice removed."
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Well at last a man that see's a plan. Although forget the Congress and the Courts. Look if they really wanted to do or could do anything, would they not be at it 24/7? What a sweet deal for a party to regain total control, kick him out. No that will never happen IMHO. I also wonder what would happen to all th exec orders he has signed and the laws he signed into law. Would or could all these be null and void?

I feel its up to one or both of the last two possible actions for a clean up and restructure no matter Mr. O's status. It's time to clean house is it not?

Thanks for the insight.
Hi Dr Stffler
Although I dont trust the courts or congress to do the right thing, I am still an American and believe in our Constitution. And we as Americans have to believe that our Constitution will protect us, so I would rather give the congress and the courts the opertunity to correct itself before more drastic measures are used.
Unfortunately the career politicians don't have the stomach to do what is right, if they did, social security would be fully funded and there would be no national debt. So when the actual proof surfices that Obama is the fraud we all know he is and when Congress and the Courts fail to act, that will be the time for the military and or the militias to act.
It is the sworn duty of the military and the malitias to up hold and protect the Constitution.
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P.S. I just realized how ironic that statement is coming from a guy who uses a Swiss flag as an icon.
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