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Old 10-22-2009, 11:57 PM
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Also in use by the 'Ruling Class' is the idea of 'Devide et Impera' or 'Divide and Conquer'. I'm still amazed that it works, but it's very evident in the vicious and nasty attacks that you come under when you dare to say anything negative about the current POTUS. It still amazes me that people can't see the fact that the political parties we have been given are two sides of the same coin. Because 'Divide and Conquer' works so well, people will automatically assume that you are for the opposing political party if you have anything bad to say about the current POTUS, no matter which party he comes from.
That's so true, Shamus. The Ruling Class knows every trick in the book when it comes to confusing people. The issue that we should be concerned with is how to kick out the corrupt politicians and government officials, take the money factor out of campaigns, and eliminate influential power of corporations and lobbyists. Instead, the Ruling Class artfully pits Republicans against Democrats, ethnic groups against other ethnic groups, white collar workers against blue collar workers, and one religion against another. With all this divisiveness, it's no wonder we can't get anything accomplished.

Folks reading this thread may assume that I am a Republican just because I am willing to speak against the current administration, but that isn't where my loyalty lies. I am equally disapproving of Republicans in government who deserve criticism. Like you, I also see our two party system as two faces of the same coin. No matter how you flip it, it is still the same item and has the same value. No matter how many times we elect a Republican or Democrat administration, nothing is going to change in any meaningful way to benefit us. Those who think that increasing the size of government, and the number of entitlement programs, is beneficial to us are deluding themselves. That only makes us more dependent on government, and unable to chart our own destiny.

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You must watch "The Century of The Self" to gain a clear understanding to what is being said by Milton Friedman for he is talking right out of the book of Edward Bernays book. The ruling class use his system more than any other, why? Because it works! You have to watch the whole movie, then you see the just like in the matrix his system of control is all all around you.
Got a link to that? The one I gave was a short clip that included clips from a 10 hour series, interviews, etc. I don't think many of us are going to watch the whole thing, but it's there if you want to. There is also one where he details what the Federal Reserve Bank is [B]supposed[B] to do. The biggest problem with capitalism is what he didn't mention; what happens when so much excessive greed get's into the system with nothing to control it? It collapses.

That's what is going on now. I recently saw an interview with Frank McKenna, former prime minister of Canada and a micro banker. He said the Canadian banks did not need a single dollar from their government during the current crisis as their government had controls which prevented investment in things like toxic assets. He also stated adamantly the current crisis was caused by nothing but pure greed at high levels in the world financial markets. As he has now officially ratted out his buddies, I guess he had better watch his back!

All this discussion, research and publishing of results is great, but unless we can motivate people to get out and do something about it it will all be in vain. Anyone got any suggestions to that end that have not been mentioned yet?

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The Ruling Class knows every trick in the book when it comes to confusing people. Instead, the Ruling Class artfully pits Republicans against Democrats, ethnic groups against other ethnic groups, white collar workers against blue collar workers, and one religion against another. With all this divisiveness, it's no wonder we can't get anything accomplished.
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The videos can be found on google in a four part series. Right now I don't have the capability to copy and paste the google videos so everyone will have to look for them independently. I know it is a long series of videos but the real question is you. For there is the you before you watch the videos and the you after you watch the videos, the two will not be of the same mindset. That is the real question that has to be addressed.

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Got a link to that? The one I gave was a short clip that included clips from a 10 hour series, interviews, etc. I don't think many of us are going to watch the whole thing, but it's there if you want to. There is also one where he details what the Federal Reserve Bank is [B]supposed[B] to do. The biggest problem with capitalism is what he didn't mention; what happens when so much excessive greed get's into the system with nothing to control it? It collapses.

That's what is going on now. I recently saw an interview with Frank McKenna, former prime minister of Canada and a micro banker. He said the Canadian banks did not need a single dollar from their government during the current crisis as their government had controls which prevented investment in things like toxic assets. He also stated adamantly the current crisis was caused by nothing but pure greed at high levels in the world financial markets. As he has now officially ratted out his buddies, I guess he had better watch his back!

All this discussion, research and publishing of results is great, but unless we can motivate people to get out and do something about it it will all be in vain. Anyone got any suggestions to that end that have not been mentioned yet?

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Here's the part 1 (of 4) video link: The Century Of Self Part 1 (of 4) Happiness Machines
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Fall of the Republic

Anyone who either believes that things are getting better here in the United States, or can see that isn't so but don't understand what is ruining this country, owes it to themself and their families to watch Fall of The Republic - The Presidency of Barack Obama

Fall Of The Republic documents how an offshore corporate cartel is bankrupting the US economy by design. Leaders are now declaring that world government has arrived and that the dollar will be replaced by a new global currency.

President Obama has brazenly violated Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution by seating himself at the head of United Nations' Security Council, thus becoming the first US president to chair the world body.

A scientific dictatorship is in its final stages of completion, and laws protecting basic human rights are being abolished worldwide; an iron curtain of high-tech tyranny is now descending over the planet.

A worldwide regime controlled by an unelected corporate elite is implementing a planetary carbon tax system that will dominate all human activity and establish a system of neo-feudal slavery.

The image makers have carefully packaged Obama as the world's savior; he is the Trojan Horse manufactured to pacify the people just long enough for the globalists to complete their master plan.

This film reveals the architecture of the New World Order and what the power elite have in store for humanity. More importantly it communicates how We The People can retake control of our government, turn the criminal tide and bring the tyrants to justice.

YouTube - Fall Of The Republic - The Presidency Of Barack H Obama - The Full Movie HQ
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Just finished watching part one and I have to say these are the finnal days of our Republic. The water for fuel technology can stop the carbon tax dead in it's tracks and is why I go to great lengths to not make a video that will only be used to alert those that will put a stop to it before it sweeps the globe. By studing Edward Bernays I have Bern able to get the message out without alerting the powers that be. To use water as a source of fuel is now out for everyone that wants it. The circuit needs a little tweeking but the information is on the thread for all to have. On the thread you find no thrills, no forms of entertainment, nothing but dry dull science. But if you want a shot at energy independence you best make it enteraining to your mind. For right now this very instant in time you have laided out infront of you, "The time before," and "The time after" you reading the thread. Two paths in the road which way you choose to go is entirely up to you, for just like in the Matrix I can only show you the door you have to be the one that walks through it.

That was a great video and the whole world nneds to see it. But since I have no idea what is in the H1N1 that is being given out in mass by their mass fear champhane I think it may be too late for many people around the globe that have been given that vacination against a virus the pigs don't even have. In that video I saw the complete picture of how to passivfy a nation, mainly through fake realities of mass entertainment, the public now belives in the illusion. If anyone thinks it will not take bloodshed to get our government back you are also beliving the illusion. So now I know that the boy scotts are being used against me since I am a disgruntaled veteran. I guess they think I won't shoot through a child to get to them, wrong! Just like the Matrix anyone not unplugged from the system is a poteintal agent or to the point a enemy that must be also taken down to get back to a constitutional form of governance. The time will come when each one of us has to make the hard choices like that for they will give you no other opption.

Thanks for the video I will make sure my family watches it do they just might stop this abserd blind faith in Obama.

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. ... that vaccination against a virus the pigs don't even have.
I believe the disease was named after those who created it.
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Challenging Obama's Dangerous "Health Emergency"

New Presidential "National Health Emergency"
Gives HHS Secretary Sebelius Power to Send People
to Hospital-Administered Concentration Camps

The Health Emergency declaration which President Obama signed on Friday, October 23, 2009 gives appointed, NOT elected, HHS Secretary Sebelius the power to suspend your right to:
  • Habeus Corpus
  • Make your own health decisions
  • Informed consent
  • Leave a health care facility if you wish to
  • Absolute assurance that you will not be "Eugenicized", that is, killed for the convenience of the State as is now happening in the UK
There is no redress or appeal built into this power so that, once taken to a distant holding facility, a "patient" has no way out of that facility until he or she is released at the whim of the State or carried out feet first (or cremated?). Hospitals will have the ability to designate you as a patient and hold you at a distant facility. Your rights under Obama's Declaration are suspended, rather like inmates at Guantanamo.

In fact, despite the fact that there is no Swine Flu health emergency, this Declaration puts the US on a par with Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia where the tyrants who declared war on their own people used the structures of the system to "justify" and "legitimize" their assault on the life, location and liberty of their citizens.

The Declaration gives appointed, not elected, Secretary Sebelius power which the military, for example, NorthCom, will back.
Hard to swallow as it may be, providing this authority to itself means that the US Government now has its excuse to institute the corralling and culling of anyone it chooses.


The First Amendment of the US Constitution gives us the right to petition the government for the redress of grievances. The Declaration of Health Emergency, which the White House spinmeisters say is simply and "administrative" action, is certainly a grievance. Please submit the Petition for the Redress of Grievances below once for each member of your household and then forward this information to the largest possible number of people to create the same kind of effective Push Back that caused Secretaries Napolitano and Sebelius to call off the Pandemic itself last week.


Go here to submit the Petition: http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=1610
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This amazing since the CDC predics only 1% of the US population will be effected by the virus and only 30 something % of that might die from it. They are up too something this time, poor blind masses are going to start dropping dead perhaps. How can less than 1% be an emergency? Well, now everyone should be on the watch for if the people got the nasal form they can pass on the virus for up to 3 weeks due to it being a live virus.

On the name of the virus it was said that it was from the pig farm on Mexico where the first small outbreak occuried, but the pigs on the far got a clean bill of health from the CDC.

I wish everyone the best of luck on this,
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More on the "Health Emergency"

While there is no proof to validate the government assertion that a massive program to vaccinate the population against swine flu is actually necessary, the swine flu is definitely becoming a health care problem of growing proportions in nearly every state. The weekly update bulletin from the Maine Center for Disease Control (Maine CDC), for example, states that, "The 2009 novel H1N1 influenza virus is the predominant influenza virus in circulation in most countries worldwide. The vast majority of the U.S. is seeing widespread influenza, with nearly all of it being the 2009 novel H1N1 influenza strain."

So then just how serious is the problem, and what is causing the outbreaks? It is interesting to note that while the government labels the swine flu as a dangerous pandemic, the treatment for those who actually contract the disease is no different than that for seasonal flu. The Maine CDC states, "Treatment for seasonal flu and H1N1 flu are the same, and most people do not need to see a doctor." So for an illness that is not even serious enough for us to see a doctor, why should we expose ourselves and our children to the dangerous toxins that are being included in H1N1 vaccine? It doesn't make sense, does it? What does make sense is the understanding that the people who have contracted H1N1 are catching this from other people who either have the disease or have received the nasal mist vaccine, which is a live virus that can infect others for up to 3 weeks. What is most interesting to me is that there is no mention of this fact in the Maine or National CDC bulletins. You would think that anyone receiving the nasal mist vaccine should be informed of this and told to avoid any public contact for a 3 week period. Of course that would be difficult to impossible. How would people get their groceries? Could people afford to leave their jobs for 3 weeks, and would employers allow that? And what about school children? Well, there you have the crux of the problem. If only one child at a school receives the nasal mist vaccine, and isn't forced to stay at home for three weeks, you can safely bet that in three weeks time practically all of the other children at that school would have contracted the H1N1 influenza. And so the government reasons that the only effective solution is to see to it that all school children receive the vaccine. About 40% of the first doses of vaccine made available to states is the nasal mist, live virus type, and this is being targeted mainly at school children. This of course means that parents of these children will surely be exposed to the live virus and will contract the disease unless they also receive the vaccine. But are parents being advised of this fact? No, they are not. So they will contract the disease and spread it to fellow workers and to the general public wherever people are likely to congregate. Since the nasal mist vaccine virtually guarantees a widespread outbreak of H1N1 influenza, we must ask why it was ever formulated and distributed so widely in the first place. The only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that our government wanted to ensure that a pandemic would occur, and that growing public fear would cause the highest possible number of people to voluntarily accept the vaccine. Those of us who have taken the time to study the facts related to the H1N1 vaccine will not want to subject ourselves or our children to it, and therefore it is highly likely that we will contract the disease as this government engineered pandemic spreads. Still, that is better than exposing ourselves to risks of the vaccine itself. But if Obama's "Health Emergency" declaration is left to stand, we will all be forced to either take the vaccine or lose our liberties and be separated from our families. Any reasonable thinking citizen should rightly be infuriated at what is being forced upon us by our government. I again encourage all readers to make your voice heard by those who represent you in Washington. Join the petition effort to stop this insane government program. Time is of the essence, as vaccination programs have already begun in most states. To take part in the petition movement, follow the link shown below. It is quick and easy to participate, and won't cost you a dime.

Go here to submit the Petition: http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/568/t/1128/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=1610
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So that confirms method of delivery to the population the nasal spray, I guess the old car and suit case on the corner method wasn't effective enough to get the job done. I wonder what are their predicted numbers of the casulaty rate? So the war has started on the worlds population. Now we have to wonder just when these fools are going to crash the US dollar? I don't know about you all but I am not prepared for this BS. I never got around to buying all the silver I could get my hands on and the water for fuel technology is still about one to two months away from being completed. I hope they will have a heart and wait until after Christmas to crash the dollar. Once I have the technology up and running I should be okay for the most part. But just think if they decide to crash the dollar at the hight of the winter season. So many will die just due to mother nature.

I feel like I am in a race to beat them to the punch before they pull the rug out from under our feet and get myself off of this rug and as many people as I can with me. I sent the petition don't really think it will have any effect but I did my part and that is all each and everyone of us can do is "Do Your Part."

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Just found a video from here:

Has President Obama, the Constitutional Lawyer, Committed Open Treason?

"NEW MARTIAL LAW December 31st WARNING Video. They threaten to use the Military to shut down our Borders because of the phony H1N1!

They better not even dare. Lock and Load people!"

YouTube - Must see news!!!! US Military prepares to close all borders under H1N1 national emergency

I don't hope this comes true :-(

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Thank you Rick for the video Fall of The Republic - The Presidency of Barack Obama
Everyone should take the time to watch it.

Another CONCEPT everyone should LEARN is explained here.
The high cost of working for money
Anyone working for money is in a NO WIN system, but did we not already know this?
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Who Is Running America?

"Under the doctrine of Parens Patriae, "Government As Parent", as a result of the manipulated bankruptcy of the United States of America in 1930, ALL the assets of the American people, their person, and of our country itself are held by the Depository Trust Corporation at 55 Water Street, NY, NY, secured by UCC Commercial Liens, which are then monetized as "debt money" by the Federal Reserve. It may interest you to know that under the umbrella of the Depository Trust Corporation lies the CEDE Corporation, the Federal Reserve Corporation, the American Bar Association, the legal arm of the banking interests, and the Internal Revenue Service, the system's collection agency."
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"Under the doctrine of Parens Patriae, "Government As Parent", as a result of the manipulated bankruptcy of the United States of America in 1930, ALL the assets of the American people, their person, and of our country itself are held by the Depository Trust Corporation at 55 Water Street, NY, NY, secured by UCC Commercial Liens, which are then monetized as "debt money" by the Federal Reserve. It may interest you to know that under the umbrella of the Depository Trust Corporation lies the CEDE Corporation, the Federal Reserve Corporation, the American Bar Association, the legal arm of the banking interests, and the Internal Revenue Service, the system's collection agency."
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Yes, I agree with it all, Al.
A better question might be: "What allowed it all to exist?"

BACK up and ask : What allowed all of these things to exist and also
allowed them to become the problems they are?
All of those issues exist because people are working for what has
been called "money".
We work for "money" because we were told we had to.
We were told by WHOM? ..
Who made these rules and why?
Who benefits if we work for "money"?

BACK IT UP .. look at the cause of the problem, not the side-effects.
Those things are all just SIDE-EFFECTs of money.

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The "Ruling Class" can only exist because people work for "money".
Stop getting side tracked by side-effects, dig deeper for real causes.

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Thank you Rick for the video Fall of The Republic - The Presidency of Barack Obama
Everyone should take the time to watch it.
The thing I don't really understand is if the Oligarchs
take everything, and the US and other countries are
thrust into jobless depressions, and the general
infrastructures decay, and crime and anarchy and
starvation and sickness and death and war abound,
in other words - when everything collapses -
how would they be able to continue to profit...?

Doesn't it behoove them to keep everything and
everyone happy and healthy and humming along
so that they can continue to skim off the top (and
middle and bottom) and reap all of the various benefits...?
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The thing I don't really understand is if the Oligarchs take everything, and the US and other countries are
thrust into jobless depressions, and the general
infrastructures decay, and crime and anarchy and
starvation and sickness and death and war abound,
in other words - when everything collapses -
how would they be able to continue to profit...?
At that point in time they will have succeeded in transferring the entire wealth of the world to their coffers, and I'm not talking about worthless paper money. I'm talking about anything and everything that has real value, such as precious metals, real estate, natural resources, and other tangible assets. The only thing we will have left is debt, poverty, and the other situations that you mentioned. The Ruling Class will go underground during this transitional period, and will emerge unscathed when all is past. The relatively few of us who survive war and pestilence will become slaves of the Ruling Class. They won't need to profit, because they will already be the sole owners of all worldwide assets.

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Doesn't it behoove them to keep everything and
everyone happy and healthy and humming along
so that they can continue to skim off the top (and
middle and bottom) and reap all of the various benefits...?
Of course not. That was just an illusory ploy that they used in the past to trick the ordinary citizens into willfully giving up their labor and their assets. Right now, if you listen closely, you will hear a giant sucking sound. That sound is caused by massive foreclosures on real estate and personal property which people can no longer afford. So people lose their jobs, their homes, and their automobiles. They sell whatever they have left just to purchase food, and then they scrounge and steal whatever they need just to exist. The "haves" find themselves besieged by the "have nots," and each group will kill the other if need be to survive. The Ruling Class will not care, because they will be safe and sound in their comfortable and well stocked underground cities. When they finally emerge, it will be a whole different world, but it will be their world. World population will be reduced to perhaps 5% or less of current levels, and will be much more manageable, especially since the survivors will live in enclosed labor camps. These laborers will live a meager existence, while attending to every whim and fancy of the Ruling Class. When a laborer becomes ill, or inefficient, in the eyes of the Ruling Class, he or she will be quickly culled and replaced by a younger slave. There will be far fewer people using up resources, and the Ruling Class will own all the resources, so why would they be concerned with keeping anyone happy or healthy?

A scary scenario, isn't it? But if we don't act with all due haste to turn the tide against the Ruling Class, this scenario is what we can expect to see evolving around us. It is already underway. The foundations for their plan were laid decades ago, and much of the master plan has already been accomplished. They are now beginning the final stage in the assault on our liberties. The decimation of the dollar will wipe out your life savings overnight, and the forced incarcerations of the "Health Emergency" will strip you of everything else you have worked your whole life to achieve. There is no time more appropriate than the present to draw a line in the sand and stand up against tyranny.
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look at the cause of the problem, not the side-effects.
Those things are all just SIDE-EFFECTs of money.

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The "Ruling Class" can only exist because people work for "money".
Stop getting side tracked by side-effects, dig deeper for real causes.
Hey Randy, you hit the nail on the head! Money is the big stick that the Rulers use to keep us all in a state of perpetual slavery.

Of course when you say such things, out come the perjorative labels by the hard-of-thinking.
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The funny part about all this is that the ruling elite don't know what they're getting themselves into. Even if they succeed in acquiring the whole world, what then? All they really get is more headaches.
I spent the first half of my life buying things like houses and cars and furniture etc... I've spent the latter part of my life trying to get rid of everything I don't really need. Why? Because "things" don't provide lasting happiness. They are fun for a little while and then they become a weight around your neck. They have to be cared for, which takes valuable time and money, and after they cease to provide satisfaction they become a burden. All material possessions are a burden.
Just trying to maintain a household and a few vehicles is a pain in the butt. Just imagine what a burden owning the whole world would be! Not only that, but somebody would always be trying to steal it from you. You would have to watch your back constantly, and be suspicious of everyone. It would be hell.
These dolts have dreams of power and riches because they think that's the pinnacle of existence. "Be careful what you wish for" is the best advise I can think of. They are going to find out the hard way that everything has a price, and the price for what they want is very steep indeed.

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Believe it or not, the answer to that question is found in "Political Ponerology" by Andrew Lobaczewski. Looking for what motivates ordinary people only leads to dead ends.
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There is much better reading material than this on the mid-east situation. I suggest Hal Lindsey's latest book "The Everlasting Hatred; The Roots of Jihad"; history, not hate-mongering. Very informative and well researched.

Available here from $0.99:
Amazon.com: The Everlasting Hatred: The Roots of Jihad (9781931628150): Hal Lindsey: Books

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Old 10-30-2009, 04:05 AM
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Lobaczewski; “schizotypal personality disorder” - about which he says:

"Carriers of this anomaly are hypersensitive and distrustful, but they pay little attention to the feelings of others, tend to assume extreme positions, and are eager to retaliate for minor offenses. Sometimes they are eccentric and odd. Their poor sense of psychological situation and reality leads them to superimpose erroneous, pejorative interpretations upon other people’s intentions. They easily become involved in activities which are ostensibly moral, but which actually inflict damage upon themselves and others. Their impoverished psychological world-view makes them typically pessimistic. […] When they become wrapped up in situations of serious stress, their failings cause them to collapse easily. …The schizoids frequently fall into reactive psychotic states so similar in appearance to schizophrenia that they lead to misdiagnoses.

If the emotional pressure on them is minimized, they are able to develop proper speculative reasoning, but they tend to consider themselves intellectually superior to “ordinary” people.

The quantitative frequency of this anomaly varies among races. It is low among Blacks, and highest among Jews. Observation suggests that it is autosomally hereditary."

Political Ponerology: Andrew M. Lobaczewski
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:50 AM
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Kick Them All Out of Congress

Join one of these meet up groups in your state, and let your Congress persons know that you are ready to throw them out. Most of these scalawags have been in office far too long already - many for a decade or more - and look what they have done. They will never approve term limits on themselves, so it is up to us to impose term limits with our votes. Vote them out by voting someone else in - a fresh face, rather than a Washington insider. And keep doing this every two years so as to keep these people on their toes. Enough of the corrupt career politicians! Kick them all out!

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This Strategy Will Work

I have just learned of a brilliant strategy for kicking all the corrupt politicians out of office in 2010 and 2012. This strategy is being promoted as "the only realistic way in existence to reclaim our nation through peaceful, constitutional means," and I can see that this is really so. We can see that there is very little hope of defeating incumbent politicians (those already in office) by attempting to elect independent representatives to replace them. So since we cannot beat the Republicans or Democrats, the only strategy that makes sense is to take over both the Republican and Democrat parties. The strategy for doing this begins at the local neighborhood level, which is the Precinct area in which you vote. Every county is divided into many Precincts, and each Precinct has Republican and Democrat organizational meetings where officers are nominated and elected. To vote at one of these meetings, the only requirement is that you must be a voter registered to the same party holding the meeting, and you must attend at least two meetings before the one in which you intend to vote. The idea behind a takeover strategy is to begin educating people in your local Precinct community through separate meetings, and then to have this group of people decide on what persons they should support as takeover candidates. With sufficient grassroots support, the group attends the required 2 meetings before a vote is scheduled, and then show up in force when it is time to elect the Precinct officers. It only takes just one committed person to get the ball rolling in your neighborhood, by reaching out to others and explaining the strategy to them. This can be you, or you can join a group already doing this. To learn how this strategy can work, and will work if we adopt and pursue it, please watch the videos, "The Strangest Political Secret" and "What You Can Do Right Now" at this website: Wag The Dog 2010

To learn how this strategy has already worked successfully for a Nevada Precinct, read the article found here: New Page 1
This tells exactly how a group of people in Nevada implemented the strategy and wrested control of their Precinct's Republican organization away from the corrupt political puppets who were simply yes men to the County and State level organizations. The same thing can be done with the Democrat organization in your local Precinct. Once local Precinct captains and committee members are elected, they get to go to the County level meeting and vote on County officers. It is at this COUNTY precinct organizational meeting that inadequate party leaders can be BOOTED OUT and replaced with Party Leaders who will restore honest, verifiable election vote counting, and endorse principled candidates devoted to the true freedoms our country was founded on. So you see, the Precinct Strategy has real power to bring about change, and to unseat corrupt career politicians, thus ending the influence of the New World Order and the Ruling Class over political affairs.

To get started with a local Precinct Strategy plan in your neighborhood, read the information at this site: National Precinct Activists 2010 (Cincinnati, OH) - Meetup.com
You will see two handy links at the top of this site page that will allow you to either Find a Meetup Group, or Start a Meetup Group if no local Precinct Strategy group currently exists.

So go for it - this strategy can and will work if we will use it. While phoning and e-mailing our government representatives, and attending Tea Parties and other rallies can help bring public attention to change that is needed, only this Precinct Strategy will give us the power to make the changes that are needed. View the videos, read the articles, get enthused, and get involved.

Best to all,

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The Plan!

Hey Rick;

As with any plan of action "the Devil is in the details" and now you have provided them! Great work! Excellent.!

Now, a lot of us need to get to work on this asap, especially in states like here in Florida. Last year the blockheads in Tallahassee moved our primaries up to early spring which doesn't give us much time. I know this happened in other states as well, so anyone in one of those states needs to get started now as well.

Let's get busy and KICK 'EM OUT!

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:19 AM
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ARC Is Working On All Fronts

“The way to restore honest elections, and solve all the other issues facing our country, is through massive citizen involvement in the Precinct System.”
National Precinct Activists 2010 (Cincinnati, OH) - Meetup.com
“The Precinct Strategy has been around since the time of Lincoln, but the vast majority of Americans were not political junkies, so they had no idea what it was all about. Unfortunately, those who did understand it were the very ones who had abused it to secure the favor of their cronies and perpetuate their power. …. The way we accomplished this was all according to their own rules and procedures.”
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:32 PM
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what is reality and what is not?

Rick, I agree with the bottom up approach. BUT?

Should we not reexamine the foundation of which we are trying
to build upon? Does that foundation even exist?

A peaceful effort has already been undertaken.
The only thing broken is our perception?
Back up a step, validate the ground upon which you stand first.
Does the public vote for the President of any corporation?

The corporation doing business as "government" has been sued.
The named Defendant(s) are all in default due to no action was taken
by them. A summary judgment against all is all that is left.
All other courts have been named as defendants .. !!!!
A defendant court can not be the COURT OF APPEAL and
therefore there is no court that can hear an appeal...
To go higher than this court, one has to go to an international court.

This is the highest court in the land, yes higher than the Supreme Court
for this suit.

The initial hearing will happen on Nov. 6th, 2009 as to what happens next.

aka Government is sued as a Corporation

This suit rips the rug out from under "the pretenders" and exposes them as
just a corporation, think of Disneyland's Magic Kingdom is "The Most Magical Place On Earth" .. something like that.

What does it all mean? It means no authority existed.
We were told there was and we believed.
It means NOTHING applies to us!
Taxes, courts, laws, prisons, the national debt, everything, Nothing!

Curiously on Dun and Bradstreet, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
is listed as having an address at: 41 DEERING RD WAPATO, WA 98951
Ask yourself: Why is that?
Can there be a US of A in each State or can there can be only one for all 50?
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:28 PM
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Christopher Story has a new report:

BUSH SR. IN GERMANY TO SABOTAGE PAYMENT PROCESS
WHILE MERKEL STRUTS IN WHITE HOUSE PRETENDING TO COMPLETE
Tuesday 3 November 2009 03:00 Worldreports.org
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:18 PM
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I just want to say here, that German citizen have no Influence at the Politic.
Merkel is a follower of H. Kohl, what did found, or 'reunite' the EU,
where Laws are still made without any Vote of the Voters now,
same as at the Land itself
That whole Bunch do hiding behind her political Immunity,
Merkel itself has prodeedings, because she gave Money away,
what she, or Germany not had, to rescue the Banks.
Other Peoples got arreste, when they do that, but she is 'political Immune'.
At last Voter turnout was at 70%. Since the Euro did come,
anything doupled at the Price, just Payment for Work is still same since 10 Years, and converted 1:2.
They systematically dismanteling the whole Economy and the Citizen,
and what they did put beside.
But thats theyr Tactic, they take Peoples the Hope,
then scare them, and allways give them a little Hope, which one never will be complied.
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