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The Polish ruling class

The Prime Minister of Poland was famously against trashy immigrants. The prime minister of Poland just quit without warning. 79% of Poles are against the new Prime Minister who is a big banker.
"EU officials have criticized several of Warsaw's policies since the Law and Justice party (PiS) took power two years ago, for example efforts to restructure the court system and the refusal to take in refugees under an EU quota system."
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So I see a Disney Executive has been charged with pedophilia: Cried about being fired before conviction, like Disney doesn't do that to anyone else, but of course he's special, a former big time executive. It's so unfair, and yea maybe it is, but then again it was his own human resources following the corporate dictates that he and others like him have used to lord over everyone else.

Veteran Disney executive arrested on child sex abuse charges.
https://www.sott.net/article/370759-...-abuse-charges

Hollywood director Bryan Singer being sued by man who claims director made him his sex slave as a teen. Teen Accuses X-Men Director of Luring Him with Movie Role, Making Him a Sex Slave

So this evening I watched this movie made in 2000 titled; "Cirque du Freak" It motivated me to share some thoughts because I seriously saw this film as a film about pedophiles. In my opinion the movie is really a symbolic story about the transition into pedophilia by a maturing boy. It's not a story about vampires in my view. The pedophile world is a world of codes and symbols, most we are simply unaware of, but now some of the pedophiles code symbols have been brought out in to the light with the exposure of Pizza Gate. Others may not be as well known and the fewer that are known and recognized the better in the minds of the rulers. Muggles are what the rulers want. "Muggles don't see anything" (Harry Potter). I've grown especially fond of the word muggles as a descriptor for the willfully unaware. One especially successful technique used by a muggle is to claim they don't want negativity in their life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirque_du_Freak

Darren Shan, whose real name is Darren O'Shaughnessy, wrote and published the first book of the series, Cirque du Freak, as a side project between two adult books. Cirque du Freak received good reviews and Warner Bros. bought the movie rights in a seven figure deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saga_of_Darren_Shan

The Saga of Darren Shan follows the story of Darren Shan, a normal human boy who is coerced by the vampire Larten Crepsley into becoming his assistant and a half-vampire.

Anagrams for Larten Crepsley.
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sleepry yelpers

Very interesting: Cannot be accidental in my opinion. Deer rental learnt sleepry yelpers.

According to what I know, pedophilia most often starts in the home and most pedophiles were themselves sexually abused as children. Throughout this movie the character Darren Shan is leering after his little sister. Supposedly because he's half vampire. He hasn't crossed the line and drunk human blood so he's not full vampire, or is it that he's not a full pedophile? Has it in his heart but hasn't yet done it yet? The blood lust is a lust for child sex. The symbolism is clear in the movie. If you're interested in this topic of pedophiles and society rulership then it's an interesting film to watch in the light of it's evident symbolism.

Of course there's a number of things going on with this film as with many other supposed vampire movies which are strongly suggestive of homosexuality, and ridding on the back of gays are the pedophiles whom would like to be seen as the equals of homosexuals, but of course that's just not possible is it?

There's a vast gulf between two sexually mature consenting partners and a pedophile who, somehow, obtains gratification through abusing children. Now there's a subcult of sexually explicit artists whom cater to both hetrosexual and homosexuals and to various degrees to pedophiles. Among the pedophile images are clear depictions of vampire teeth, deer, and monkeys, monkey tails. This will have a little more impact if you're aware of those and see the same film. I won't wreck it for you.

I've patrolled the recesses of the net for images which I feel illustrates this world. I'd share some but for the simple fact that most of it is obviously graphic porno, and most of you probably have seen them despite your protests to the contrary, you just don't understand what you're actually seeing, that's what I'm telling you. No they aren't child pornography, but they have an ethos to them, and they also often have code symbols hidden in them. They are out there, the art and the artists and the people who seek/hunt/prey, and so the gist of what I'm telling you is that where one sub-cult lives then you may perhaps expect there are others.

My mind gets back to the supposed art work of John Podesta, and then it goes back to the art of Walter Sickert, whom Patricia Cornwell believes was Jack the Ripper. I read her book BTW and I think she's right, but that's another issue. Just say that between the artwork and the forensics it's a pretty good case that Sickert was Jack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portra...%94Case_Closed

I feel like I should say something really stupid about right now. Like say "Be Aware, Be Safe." The Justice Channel is forever shilling that line. As if being aware can assure safety. Yet of all the things that they could actually be doing to make people aware of the signs and symbols of this specific group of individuals they really have done absolutely nothing to inform anyone. Not even retired old people whom make up 98% of their viewers. I can say that with complete confidence BTW, but at any rate, why is that when a nobody like myself can do it without any resources at all they cannot? What, there's a vast shortage of retired old people with nothing better to do than think creatively?

Do they really want you aware? Probably not, and so why is that then? Who or what cult is really running the whole shebang? Some people think that if they produce a good movie script that someone will buy it, but there's a lot more going on because to be successful you have to know who's running the system and what they desire and want produced. There's many avenues to this with many agendas. The point is to understand this truth and to then be able to see the truth for yourselves by understanding the symbolism which is telling the real story. Seven figures for the rights to a movie based on a series of books about what? Un huh, and so what then are the odds?

Basically everything that's produced in film with budgets of hundreds of millions of dollars have agendas. These movies of supposed fantasy are part of long linage of story telling which isn't speaking to the population. Instead it speaks to an aware audience who understands the message, the agenda's, the planned future, the possible and the wishful. Ultimately the future is designed with a single over arching ideal which involves complete control as an idealized world for the people whom are in control.
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OK so this afternoon I tossed together a few extracts to illustrate what I'm talking about in the previous post about symbolism. These extracts are taken from Yaoi manga art posted to Channel4. The Wikipedia links I've posted are intended to be helpful in understanding the origins and themes which can be found in certain forms of art which are actually forms of story telling and communication in my opinion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enix

This art speaks volumes in reality. It's range of influence/control crosses over nation states and across religious organizations. Some of the clips are obvious, others aren't, but the fancy scroll work is a reference to royalty/nobility, there's also the deer iconography, often splattered as a slain deer, the box like icon is about the roots of this art through the abducted corporate logo of Enix. This logo is the Square Enix and is most associated with NAMBLA. The Square Enix is a symbol associated with pedophilia. The vampire motif depicts the secretive predatory lifestyle that's required of pedophiles. Bite marks, vampire teeth, tattoo's, body paint, ect, are recognizable symbols to pedophiles. I certainly don't understand all of it and can't explain what some of it is about, but if you like a mystery and detective work there's a few here that need deciphering.

This stuff is far more complex than they often first appear. I'd be tempted to say that the red star with a little streak after it is about shooting stars. That is, it's like a highlight about a rising star. A chosen one if you will. I derive that from the examples used by other elite publications famously know for using art to depict the elites planned future. For example, this star motif has been used by the Economist Magazine. In the extracts below, these stars seemed to indicate rising nobility of a political party and or it's ties to old world nobility. Tied together by a common desire/goal/objective. Gold trimmed underpants should be good clue what that desire is all about.

In one such case the Economist used the star motif on images of people whom have not been identified, at least not to my knowledge, and for that to happen it has to have been placed there for very specific reasons, because The Economist Magazine doesn't feature just anyone on their covers: Evidently you would have to know who these people are in order to understand why they were the chosen rising stars. This indicates that previously unknown persons are to rise to prominence. The aware can wait and see if new blood shoots to stardom and then go back and see if any of the photo's posted on the cover a particular issue of the Economist match the rising stars high school year book photo's or something similar: I'd be surprised if this doesn't happen because the Economist doesn't get things wrong. It's the forecasting mouthpiece of ancient nobility: It tells you what's planned/designed/intended.






Antifia/Soros/and the pedophile agenda to become legally safe and socially accepted: What Antifia is really about?


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I keep modifying the previous posts so maybe I should just make a slight addition here.

The thing to be aware of is that there is an over arching pedophile agenda that reaches over all others. It is the agenda of organized pedophiles to become politically absolute, financially absolute, and so that they can use these tools to create a social etho's of acceptability for themselves. First by legal rights, which they have tried to piggy back on top of gay and transgender persons, and then to move on to create the ethos which, eventually, would make their kind socially accepted.

I haven't studied this topic in any great detail so I've probably got some mistakes here, but we think we understand that pedophilia originates by sexual abuse before puberty. Now the point of this is that with the exposure of supposedly state run foster care systems, and where children were being abused, the question arises if this abuse was intentionally designed as a part of the socially engineering efforts of the pedophile agenda? Again, we now have plenty of evidence showing that there appears to be a long trail of hidden child preying/murder/sexual abuse going far back in time in state and religious organizations, and which are international. There's plenty of reason to think that this same organized body is now using far more advanced methods and other locations for their activities.

See, in order for any minority to get anywhere's socially they have to first be recognized as existing, then there needs to be enough of them for the population to recognize this minority is a fact of life. Going back to the vampire motif, the idea here is the creation of other vampires, hence the vampire motif of creating other vampires by biting the victim. These newly born vampires (developing pedophiles) will later serve the long term agenda. That is to say, the object is to create pedophiles by perverting the otherwise natural veins of human development which would have otherwise take place, and so that in a few generations enough of them will exist so as to enable the propaganda system to convince people that this is a normal and natural form of sexuality.

Pedophilia is a literal biblical abomination because it's a kind of sexual orientation which is artificially created though an act of abomination and which puts the victim forever in a world of hell where the object of their desire grows with each passing day but which is forbidden. This is the curse upon humans which we live under since these same people have had no alternative to live under other than the one depicted as monsters of the night. This is where the vampire motif comes from. It's what the vampire motif is actually all about in our modern world. It was a sin of the nobility of the ancients and it's this same cult which rules our world today.
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I really don't know much about this subject, except a couple of things.
Rule Britannia ruled the oceans for MANY years. The captain had his "cabin boy" and the rest had to make do with each other. This would seem to be the source of a couple of old "sayings".
You scratch my back and, I'll scratch yours.
It's bad luck to have women on board. Makes them self-conscious.
It would seem that homosexuality is well ingrained into British history and psyche. It appears, as you say, that they are trying to gain the same mainstream acceptance that the gays seem to believe they have gained.
I know several "gay" people. A name that they have mis-appropriated. They demand legal marriage. They can't actually legislate RESPECT so, the legislate the closest thing. They want their lifestyle to be accepted as "normal". That won't happen any time soon because a certain percentage are lusting after minors.
They still kill child molesters in prison so, that gives you an idea about acceptance
We cherish our kids because they represent a continuation of our genes. Some people seem to overlay physical (twisted) love on top of the idea of cherishing our children. We raise dysfunctional children and end up with dysfunctional adults.

San Francisco is well known for a group named "Jiffy Lube" I was at Burning man when they caused quite an incident.
https://burningman.org/culture/histo...lube-incident/
The guys in this group all stand around admiring each other's penis... in public. I think that it is safe to say that; anyone who spends their time worshipping gonads is pretty twisted. I know from personal experience that a big percentage of gays are very much ready to recruit new meat.
That said, I don't trust the majority of them around children.

If you can't even trust the priests, who should you trust?
https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.fil...wjob.jpg?w=450
A vid to round out the problem, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foKYsH8lPmY

EDIT: Found a smoking gun,,, it is disgusting.
https://www.rt.com/usa/412691-homose...ahoma-outrage/
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Hi folks,

Four years ago, in December of 2013, I wrote a post about Bitcoin, which had soared from $30 to over $1,000 per Bitcoin that year. As luck would have it, those who invested in Bitcoin early in 2013 have made fortunes from it. Yes, each $30 paid to purchase a Bitcoin in January 2013 is currently valued at about $16,500 US dollars, which means that if you had purchased say 40 Bitcoins at a cost of $1,200 back then, your investment would now be worth $660,000! Even those who shelled out $1,200 at the end of 2013 have gained a net profit of more than 15 times their original investment. Not too shabby.

As I mentioned in the December 2013 post, however, Bitcoin didn't prove to be a wise investment vehicle for all of its investors. I pointed out some cases where investors lost their entire investment. That trend continued past 2013, and an article titled "A brief history of Bitcoin hacks and frauds" details several such cases.

Another thing that we should keep in mind about Bitcoin's stellar rise against the US dollar is that the US dollar really isn't worth any more than the paper and ink it is printed with, and it would seem that a great many people have now come to realize this. So, is jumping onto Bitcoin at this time a wise idea? I doubt it, because even if Bitcoin soars to a value of $25,000 by the end of this year, what would you do with it then? Exchange it for $25,000 in worthless Federal Reserve Notes?

Several well connected financial gurus are predicting that something big will happen early in 2018, such as a dollar reset, and speculation has it that the dollar's value will be pegged to the price of gold, with one ounce of gold valued at 10,000 US dollars. If this is true then we can expect Trump to make an announcement about this shortly after New Year's Day. As the current value of gold is pegged at 1,244 US dollars, such an announcement would have the immediate effect of tremendously devaluing the US dollar, while at the same time increasing the price of gold eight times over. Does this mean that we should all rush out to buy a one ounce gold coin in anticipation of such an announcement? Well, that depends on what you would do with the $1,244 if you didn't buy an ounce of gold. If you kept the $1,244 in a savings account, or under your mattress, or buried in an ammo box in your back yard, you would still have $1,244 after the announcement. The ounce of gold, however, could be converted to $9,952. Of course that $9,952 wouldn't give you any more purchasing power than $1,244 does today, so you will not have increased your wealth one iota. Bear in mind that if a loaf of bread costs you $4.00 today, that same loaf of bread will cost $32.00 after the dollar reset announcement. Investing in gold only makes sense from the standpoint that it assures retaining one's wealth. The difference for people who choose to retain their FRN's, whether at home or in a bank account, is that the purchasing power of their $1,244 will be just 1/8th of what it currently is. That would be like exchanging your $1,244 for about $155.

I think we can safely guess that if such an announcement is made in early January, and people realize their FRN's have lost so much value overnight, people will be rushing to dump their currency for a different exchange medium, be it gold, silver, or some cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. That, in turn, will tend to further devalue the dollar to a far greater extent. Not a very rosy outlook, is it? Thus, while hanging onto FRN's or FRN based bank or trading accounts could prove devastating, where could those resources be better employed other than in gold or silver? Well, if the announcement comes as expected and has the immediate effect of wiping out 87.5% of all dollar based wealth, I'd guess that a hell of a lot of angry people will be going on the rampage, and that this would result in chaos and anarchy.

Such an outcome would be the kind of event that preppers have been prepping for, and in such a situation what would a stash of gold or silver coins really be worth? Sure, it might be fun to look at them and count them, but think about this: How many of those coins would you trade for a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter when you and your loved ones are going hungry? How many coins would you trade for 5 gallons of drinking water? How many would you trade for a weapon and ammunition that provides you with the ability to protect yourself and your loved ones from hungry, angry looters who wouldn't think twice about doing whatever is necessary to take whatever you may have? Think about it if you haven't already, and invest wisely.
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I really don't know much about this subject, except a couple of things.
Rule Britannia ruled the oceans for MANY years. The captain had his "cabin boy" and the rest had to make do with each other. This would seem to be the source of a couple of old "sayings".
You scratch my back and, I'll scratch yours.
It's bad luck to have women on board. Makes them self-conscious.
It would seem that homosexuality is well ingrained into British history and psyche. It appears, as you say, that they are trying to gain the same mainstream acceptance that the gays seem to believe they have gained.
I know several "gay" people. A name that they have mis-appropriated. They demand legal marriage. They can't actually legislate RESPECT so, the legislate the closest thing. They want their lifestyle to be accepted as "normal". That won't happen any time soon because a certain percentage are lusting after minors.
They still kill child molesters in prison so, that gives you an idea about acceptance
We cherish our kids because they represent a continuation of our genes. Some people seem to overlay physical (twisted) love on top of the idea of cherishing our children. We raise dysfunctional children and end up with dysfunctional adults.

San Francisco is well known for a group named "Jiffy Lube" I was at Burning man when they caused quite an incident.
https://burningman.org/culture/histo...lube-incident/
The guys in this group all stand around admiring each other's penis... in public. I think that it is safe to say that; anyone who spends their time worshipping gonads is pretty twisted. I know from personal experience that a big percentage of gays are very much ready to recruit new meat.
That said, I don't trust the majority of them around children.

If you can't even trust the priests, who should you trust?
https://edthemanicstreetpreacher.fil...wjob.jpg?w=450
A vid to round out the problem, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foKYsH8lPmY

EDIT: Found a smoking gun,,, it is disgusting.
https://www.rt.com/usa/412691-homose...ahoma-outrage/
This is an alien and uncomfortable topic for most people. However, the elites are pedophiles and they have an agenda. Stanley Kubrick believed it, many others believe it, and I believe it. What's more is that they have an agenda to remake this world to their liking.

I appreciate your forthrightness in sharing your opinion which are normal thoughts shared by many people. The issue is one of ethics. The gay world is an alien world. Most people only know it though graphic pornography. That's not a way to accurately understand another culture, and it is another alien culture in many ways. I don't think it's possible to understand it without going inside it, but for every thing you don't know there's an equal reciprocal you already do know, and so what you discover is a commonality you already know, just that's how it's done is done in a different way is all.

As an example; anyone whose 30 or 40 years old and who has a 20 something hitting on them is going to find that stimulating, but that doesn't mean that while they may take this 20 year old up on the bed time challenge that they are then going to be grouping a 2 year old; the idea is absurd. So the hypothetical situation here applies equally.

In other words think what you're saying: Would you molest a child just because you might also sleep with a younger person? No, course not, and neither would anyone else who isn't a pedophile.

So the former mayor of OK City say;
"If homosexuality is OK, so is pedophilia,’ former Oklahoma City mayor tells TV show"
EDIT: Found a smoking gun,,, it is disgusting.
https://www.rt.com/usa/412691-homose...ahoma-outrage/[/QUOTE]

Contrary to how it appears he's actually forwarding the pedophile agenda and don't think he doesn't know that already. Allow me to explain:

We know that pedophilia is a sexual orientation which can be created artificially. Pedophilia is known to be caused by the molestation of children. No one thinks the sexual orientation of pedophiles is a natural probability, and there is no evidence that it could be a natural probability, which is not the case with homosexuals.

It is the agenda of the elites to make lawful the act of pedophilia, first by law, then by creating a corrupted society through artificially infecting the population with artificially created pedophiles. This agenda is traceable through the corrupted and willfully negligent social services of the state and of religious organizations.

So obscuring the elites pedophile agenda is the lumping of homosexuality with pedophiles. This is part of a planned trap. This former mayor is an actor, like all politicians are actors, and hes got a script. This guy isn't on the side of ethical people, homo's or hetero's, and here's why.

See, it doesn't matter whether or not homosexuality is genetic or not, what matters is how a person comes to own their sexual identity. That is to say, if a person arrives at the choice of sexual preference naturally or through artificial means is what is of importance.

Once people associate homosexuals with pedophilia then they bring out the science, and if one is natural, then by extension so is the other. That's their plan. It's important to understand that the pedophile agenda is trying to catch a ride on the backs of the gay community. Many gays understand this and that's why they objected to this stooge politicians feigned ignorance, because you can be sure he well knows what he's actually doing and involved in doing.
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Hi folks,

Four years ago, in December of 2013, I wrote a post about Bitcoin, which had soared from $30 to over $1,000 per Bitcoin that year. As luck would have it, those who invested in Bitcoin early in 2013 have made fortunes from it. Yes, each $30 paid to purchase a Bitcoin in January 2013 is currently valued at about $16,500 US dollars, which means that if you had purchased say 40 Bitcoins at a cost of $1,200 back then, your investment would now be worth $660,000! Even those who shelled out $1,200 at the end of 2013 have gained a net profit of more than 15 times their original investment. Not too shabby.

As I mentioned in the December 2013 post, however, Bitcoin didn't prove to be a wise investment vehicle for all of its investors. I pointed out some cases where investors lost their entire investment. That trend continued past 2013, and an article titled "A brief history of Bitcoin hacks and frauds" details several such cases.

Another thing that we should keep in mind about Bitcoin's stellar rise against the US dollar is that the US dollar really isn't worth any more than the paper and ink it is printed with, and it would seem that a great many people have now come to realize this. So, is jumping onto Bitcoin at this time a wise idea? I doubt it, because even if Bitcoin soars to a value of $25,000 by the end of this year, what would you do with it then? Exchange it for $25,000 in worthless Federal Reserve Notes?

Several well connected financial gurus are predicting that something big will happen early in 2018, such as a dollar reset, and speculation has it that the dollar's value will be pegged to the price of gold, with one ounce of gold valued at 10,000 US dollars. If this is true then we can expect Trump to make an announcement about this shortly after New Year's Day. As the current value of gold is pegged at 1,244 US dollars, such an announcement would have the immediate effect of tremendously devaluing the US dollar, while at the same time increasing the price of gold eight times over. Does this mean that we should all rush out to buy a one ounce gold coin in anticipation of such an announcement? Well, that depends on what you would do with the $1,244 if you didn't buy an ounce of gold. If you kept the $1,244 in a savings account, or under your mattress, or buried in an ammo box in your back yard, you would still have $1,244 after the announcement. The ounce of gold, however, could be converted to $9,952. Of course that $9,952 wouldn't give you any more purchasing power than $1,244 does today, so you will not have increased your wealth one iota. Bear in mind that if a loaf of bread costs you $4.00 today, that same loaf of bread will cost $32.00 after the dollar reset announcement. Investing in gold only makes sense from the standpoint that it assures retaining one's wealth. The difference for people who choose to retain their FRN's, whether at home or in a bank account, is that the purchasing power of their $1,244 will be just 1/8th of what it currently is. That would be like exchanging your $1,244 for about $155.

I think we can safely guess that if such an announcement is made in early January, and people realize their FRN's have lost so much value overnight, people will be rushing to dump their currency for a different exchange medium, be it gold, silver, or some cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. That, in turn, will tend to further devalue the dollar to a far greater extent. Not a very rosy outlook, is it? Thus, while hanging onto FRN's or FRN based bank or trading accounts could prove devastating, where could those resources be better employed other than in gold or silver? Well, if the announcement comes as expected and has the immediate effect of wiping out 87.5% of all dollar based wealth, I'd guess that a hell of a lot of angry people will be going on the rampage, and that this would result in chaos and anarchy.

Such an outcome would be the kind of event that preppers have been prepping for, and in such a situation what would a stash of gold or silver coins really be worth? Sure, it might be fun to look at them and count them, but think about this: How many of those coins would you trade for a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter when you and your loved ones are going hungry? How many coins would you trade for 5 gallons of drinking water? How many would you trade for a weapon and ammunition that provides you with the ability to protect yourself and your loved ones from hungry, angry looters who wouldn't think twice about doing whatever is necessary to take whatever you may have? Think about it if you haven't already, and invest wisely.

Please...I can't hardly stand to think about it. I'm supposed to start my social security in 9 months. This means that everything you've brought here is going to happen. It is happening. How old people will survive is beyond me. Fortunately I've got bullets and a helmet.

About five years ago I thought about buying some bitcoins when they were like 40 cents each. Today they have pushed over 17k, and this while just a few months ago they were moving back and forth for under a 1K each, which even then I thought was crazy. Bitcoin is actually being forecast to 40k by summer by some people. People who have been accurate in forecasting crypto currency rises. I about fell off my chair when I realized how much this currency has risen in the last three or four months.

We have actually seen the dollar lose over 1,700% in the past ten years against bitcoin. That's one way to see the rise of cryptocurrency. I think that all holly hell is just round the bend and the imbeciles in DC are about to find themselves between a mob with torches and, well that's pretty much all since no one will be paying the cops, army, or any one else for that matter. This may well signal the end of the world as we know it is fast approaching, and if it's the end of the world then at least all of us will have a front row seat.
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The dirty side of life,,,, CO

Gambeir, they are still looking for a gay gene, https://www.rt.com/news/412541-gay-s...etic-research/
Yes, you're right, most people find it to be an uncomfortable subject.
I posted on this subject on another thread a while ago. Here is the gist.
In the very crowded populations, 10% of seagulls are lesbian. Mother Nature has various mechanisms. A fetus receives an injection of hormones from the mother every trimester. If the mother is greatly upset, she can miss an injection. You have seen girls who range from "girly-girly to, Butch.
That is why the Chinese empress was never given bad news during her pregnancy.
Delving into the deeper reaches of the problem. In the Arab countries, boys were raised in "orphanages" and later, sold. During their tenure in the orphanages, they received a gloule in the rectum to open it up and make it more usable for an adult.
The saying goes;
For children, a woman
For sex, a little boy
For ecstasy, a melon.
For MANY years, in Europe, anybody who could afford it had a Catamite. This was the little boy that a man diddled in the bathtub. Funny that spellcheck doesn't recognise "catamite" when they were VERY common.
These are all "facts of life". To me, they are just points of study. It is not necessary for me to judge individual action.
If you go to Craigslist on a Friday afternoon and enter, "men for men" in NYC, D.C. Philly or other big Eastern cities, you will find 3,000 NEW entries.
This tells you that there are a LOT of people searching for nothing more than sexual gratification. They can never know love while bed-hopping. This is true for "straights" also. Anybody who centers their life gonads is a very poor person likely to get STDs.
I've been to gay bars (unplanned) and the guys strike me as being desperate. Very few of them will ever know love.
Pedophilia, like bestiality, is slowly losing it's shady acceptance and becoming unacceptable. The practitioners are trying to cause a resurgence of any kind of acceptance. But, as the birth rate falls, there are fewer and fewer cast off children for them to latch on to.

Re: your retirement. It is expected that America will get an internal currency for domestic spending and an external currency to pay for imports. This is a very common manipulation when a State loses it's credit rating.
Global warming and it's associated cold blasts is ruining a lot of agriculture. The weather is going to get more and more tempestuous. Follow "Suspicious Observers. What this adds up to is this; America will export as much food as possible to pay for oil imports. Food prices will go UP.
You need a minimum amount of space to grow food,,, like potatoes on a bucket. Or "square foot gardening". You need a couple of amenable friends.
In Weimar Germany, LOTS of people went to bed with the gas turned on. The more modern way to do this is CO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwaQq0i1taM
There is going to be a lot of this.
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Pedophiles can “fall in love” with a child the same way that typical people do with adults.
All the psychological mechanisms are present – attraction, romance, and giddy feelings.
The reaction is the same, except that the pedophile’s brain is wired to focus on children.
If you’re a pedophile, how you feel toward children is not bad or evil. It’s just human attraction.

https://www.christianpedophile.com/b...ever-be-right/

People high in psychopathy still form romantic relationships, whether or not they get married or establish a committed bond.
Such a relationship, however, may not be based on psychological intimacy in the traditional sense of the word.
Instead, similar to “Bonnie and Clyde." a couple may enter into a relationship based on a shared sort of view of the world
in which both try to get as much out of other people as possible. Their lack of empathy and ability to express deep emotions may lead,
if not to a violent end, then to dissolution based on increasingly destructive patterns of interaction with each other.

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I know that a wall of text isn't going to help. God Help me I know that, but hell this is proving difficult to get across.

I'm trying to do this as simply as possible. I've cut and re-written time and again. I grow weary of trying to get understanding across, but I know from my own personal experiences working in conjunctions with law enforcement how important it is for you all to get this right.

There is a pedophile agenda. It's coming from the elites. Politically this agenda is a part of Antifa but it's also supported through Christians on the political right. They got both bases covered politically. They are them basically.

When I said that where one finds sub-cults you might expect others, then remember this because some pedophiles don't just molest children: They also murder them.

No gay rights group are either associated with, or want to be associated with, the designs of the pedophilia elites. It is an outrageous association to suggest.

A pedophile is just as easily a male as a female, and they might molest boys, he/she might molest little girls, I've seen both results first hand and I know how ****ed up those kids end up being. Pedophiles rape children, and then some of them also murder children. It's what they do. It's what the nature of the beast is designed to become. Ultimately it will always move that direction.

I know; I've seen the autopsy of their works.

Associating gays rights with this agenda only furthers the political support for political designs to legalize pedophilia. The fact that most comments here still show an association proves that an extremely poor comprehension of what is taking place still exists, and this is not good.

See, the Christian Right opened the doors for the elites pedophile agenda by claiming that homosexuality was un-natural. Then the whole line of genetic proofs was brought in to completely bamboozle all of you. It confused me for a long time as well.

However the truth is, that despite whatever anyone thinks, homosexuals become who they are all on their own. No one helps them to be homosexuals. Understand that much at least, because this is also the same way most heterosexuals develop their sexual identity. OK? Understand? This is how people come to be who they are. That is to say that at some point they have a sexual experience which of their own choosing.

That's what's important here. That whatever you choose is your choice. This isn't what takes place with children whom are molested. They are themselves placed then at a much higher risk of developing sexual feelings for other children. This is what's unnatural and criminal.

Now, am I to believe that while I can gather this and understand it that these religious institutions cannot and don't. Institutions with renowned universities? No, they know what they are doing.

Now just forget about the whole genetics determinate issue. It's a red herring. Gays don't need to prove to anyone why they are who they are. Who cares if it's a personal choice. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In America we are supposed to be free from unwarranted invasions on our privacy, and religious groups are supposed to keep their noses out of politics unless they intend that their actions should result in taxation.

The Christian Right are corrupted tools of this same pedophile liberty seeking elite clan. They are the ones who have obscured the real truth, invaded the political spectrum, and invaded every Americans civil rights which are the Supreme Laws of all Americans.

It's no one's damned business why you're a homo is it? The law of the people says it's no one else's damned business. You're free to be whoever you want in America so long as you're not hurting others and violating their rights and our laws. Something which the Christian Right has been doing for the last 3 decades and getting away with doing.

Understanding what is natural and what is not natural is also not a decision for either science to make, nor for any religious organization to claim title over either. Neither have the weight of law to claim that title. Only the American People have that right as enumerated in our Bills of Rights.

In order to understand this topic it's vital to understand that pedophiles are created when adults violate children. It's an artificial form of sexual identity which is induced. It isn't a sexuality which is like any other. It isn't one which comes without the risks of developing into more predatory desires.

Pedophilia is not a sexual identity which is assumed by the individual through natural processes. This means that whether or not there is a genetic causation for any form of sexual identity misses the point. What we are sure of is that sexual identity can be imprinted through violence, and that a violent process relative to the victims perceptions defines this warping.

The development of another pedophile is a process of rape, torture, and abuse. It is akin to the processes used to program a mind. We know that the nature of fantasy is to follow an increased desire for excitement. This process typically never ceases to grow in it's desires. We know how this works, we know how this develops, it's a well understood path studied in others criminals like serial killers.

You all really need to grasp this. This isn't the way a homosexual becomes a homosexual, nor a heterosexual either. This is something quite different and not something to toy with or treat lightly. Not something to allow any church to cloud and obscure with doctrines. The stakes are too high.

This is going to be the absolute last thing I'm going post on this subject because it's exhausting me.
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You all really need to grasp this. This isn't the way a homosexual becomes a homosexual, nor a heterosexual either. This is something quite different and not something to toy with or treat lightly. Not something to allow any church to cloud and obscure with doctrines. The stakes are too high.
Numerous people have said that Mohammed had sex with his youngest wife, 'Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr, when he was about 53 and she was only nine years old. Some Muslims deny that. If somebody were to claim Mohammed and 'Aisha had sex when she was nine, and they were wrong, that would be a serious slander against Mohammed. On the other hand, if it were true, that would show a very different side of Mohammed that would shock many. So is this accusation against Mohammed true or false?
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hitherto hidden ‘ruling interests’ now dragged out from the shadows

"But then Donald Trump, elected President by his deplorables’ base, made clear that he wished for détente with Russia, and even disdained the claims made on ordinary Americans by the maintenance of America’s unipolar global ‘order’. For this heresy, he has been punished by the manufactured ‘Russiagate’ non-scandal. “Can a president, concerned that he might be removed from office by a special prosecutor or possibly assassinated, resist the march toward war?
"That the ‘ruling interests’ have managed substantially to contain President Trump is undeniable, but what is new, and perhaps - or perhaps, not - alters the calculus, is that these ‘ruling interests’ have had to come out from the shadows into the open. The former Acting Director of the CIA, Mike Morrell, an early voice peddling the Russian collusion meme now publicly admits in a surprisingly frank interview with Politico, his leading role in the intelligence community waging political war against President Trump, describing his actions as something he didn't "fully think through", adding that maybe it wasn't such a great idea to leak against, and bash a new president: “There was a significant downside”

"The American ‘ruling interests’ – after a long series of failures in the Middle East – will not abide yet more: they will retch at the thought of Israel challenged in this way; of Saudi Arabia humiliated and at Hizbullah and Iran in the vanguard of a regional campaign for Jerusalem, and for Palestine – and by implication, against those who have been seen willing to normalise with Israel."
"Against this background - can a president, concerned that he might be removed from office, and beset still by hitherto hidden ‘ruling interests’ now dragged out from the shadows into the public glare for their tawdry schemes, resist the march toward war "
"Is this the diversion that either a now exposed and vulnerable Deep State, and a hobbled President, might welcome as the chance to stand erect in public esteem? Both might share a common interest in escaping domestic problems to mount a show of American strength and military power."
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Qumran scrolls hoax

I found some interesting info on antiquities. Since everything is connected, I'm posting them here. Someone may be interested in following up on this.
This is from the comments section of a Zero Hedge article.


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The Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

The Dead Sea scrolls are a mixture of old documents that were hidden in a number of caves to be miraculously found and used to support the establishment of Israel, a country intended for Jews only.

The main document "finds" were in 1946 and 1947 in caves near the tiny ancient settlement of Qumran.

Israel was created in 1948.

The Dead Sea scrolls are the only really old (well supposedly really old) documents, in the Hebrew characters, that have ever been found. No other really old documents in the Hebrew characters have ever been found.

All other documents in Hebrew characters date from later than 800 AD.

Previous to the "finds", critics had pointed out the late date of all documents in Hebrew characters, and deduced that the Hebrew Old Testament must have been translated from the Greek Old Testament and not the other way round.

Then, low and behold,... a very timely miracle occurs.

The Dead Sea scrolls are "found" and dated to hundreds of years earlier than the oldest previously known documents in Hebrew characters.

Then, it is widely claimed that all the scrolls were produced and hidden in the Qumran caves before 70 AD (the supposed time of the mythical sack of Jerusalem by the Romans).

The critics are not given access to the scrolls nor even photographs of the text, lest they spoil the party.

In fact, for decades, only seven scholars are given access to the scrolls.

This goes on till certain critics are dead and the scrolls have been purged of all anachronisms (like Arabic numerals).

Then, in 1991, only 45 years after their "discovery", the Huntington Library, in San Marino, California, without consent, makes facsimile copies of the scrolls available to all.

So that, in brief, is the Dead Sea scrolls Hoax.

More, however, can be deduced....

One can even guess where the Dead Sea documents came from.

It turns out that some of the Dead Sea documents, for example, the "Damascus Document," are nearly identical to documents from the Genizah collection of the Ben Ezra Synagogue in Cairo, Egypt. So, it is likely that many of the Dead Sea scrolls had their source there.

Worldwide, there are ten manuscripts of the "Damascus Document" from the Dead Sea scrolls and two manuscripts from the Cairo Genizah. This strange distribution is a result of the fraud. The "Damascus Document" was first published in 1910 by Solomon Schechter in "Fragments of a Zadokite Work."

The Ben Ezra Synagogue was established around 900 AD.

Now, the Arabs have ruled Egypt since they defeated the Greek armies around 635 AD.

Now, the synagogue (and its Jews) existed happily, undisturbed, in Cairo, in the midst of the Islamic world.

So, maybe the original Jews were a group of Arabs.

This would explain why Hebrew and Arabic are nearly identical languages.

This would explain why the Hebrew and Islamic religious traditions are very similar.

And, it would also explain why Jews turned up in Spain with the Arabs (Moors).

Another couple of points:

It should also be noted that a few Jewish scholars (in particular, Solomon Zeitlin) have long insisted that the Dead Sea scrolls were a Medieval production. [Zeitlin was a well-known Talmudic scholar and would not claim this unless convinced it was true.]

Internal evidence from the scrolls themselves indicates a Medieval production. See, here.

And, the fact that many scrolls are written on vellum (90% of them) proves these are indeed a Medieval production.

It is estimated that 20 people occupied the site of Qumran (estimated by the number of inhabitants for whom there was room in the buildings). Now these 20 people were not just ordinary people, they read and wrote Greek, Phoenician, Aramaic, Nabataean, and Hebrew documents, like natives, and managed to write learned works on numerous religious topics (about 900 manuscripts were "recovered," about six hundred separate works), while gathering enough water, and raising enough food, for their survival, in a desert.

Some have tried to claim that as many as 200 lived at Qumran, but most have considered that number ridiculously high.

Anyway, I think it is clear that the Dead Sea scrolls are a bunch of old documents that have been thrown together and sold to a gullible world.

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Anything by Germar Rudolph is good as well. There are many, many sources. It is only by means of ironclad total control of all media that the holyhoax is perpetuated. http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf
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The thing we need to recognize is that there is a viable alternative to the Alien Hypothesis. That's not the same thing as saying
there are no aliens, or even that recovered alien artifacts, whatever they might be, didn't play a part in creating what we are seeing.

*Not sure this is going to make sense to everyone, because it may seem that I wander off, but in truth it's all a part of the whole picture
and that picture is about deception, lies, treason, and crimes against humanity.

All I'm asking is to question the idea's which have been planted in all our heads and to question the on-going developing narravitive.
This narrative started long ago with this introduction of the idea of Ancient Aliens and Alien Intervention, and now we have hostile Aliens
as a dominate theme.

This narrative of alien invasion goes way back to H.G. Wells. Wells was also a member of the Fabian Society.
"H.G. Wells and the Open Conspiracy."
"Fabian leaders were drawn to Herbert George Wells (1866-1946), and his ideas of the 'New Republic' which he described as "a sort of outspoken
Secret Society; an informal and open freemasonry," made up of the educated class, whose common goals would lead to the creation of a new World State,"
Final Warning: A History of the New World Order
Illuminism and the master plan for world domination
-- by: David Allen Rivera, 1994, source: darivera.com
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?...ng&C=5.1#Wells

The Fabian Turtle is featured on the 2015 Economist Cover. Originally the Fabian Society featured a Wolf in Sheeps clothing, but changed that
later on when it thought to be a bit too open


What we are faced with is a question of what to believe. This is always going to be a personal decision. In this quest what we need to realize
is that the intelligence services are tasked with keeping all of us in the dark, and they do this by manufacturing evidence, same as all criminals
would rationally do when trying to hide their participation in high crimes. We may call them intelligence services today, but in times past they
were the snitches, stooges, assassins, and tools of the king. Nothing has changed, only the names have been changed, they still serve the same
master knowingly or not.

People will point to the supposed evidence supporting Ancient Astronauts, but there again the scope and detail and extremes to which these agencies will go
knows no bounds. Here's a crazy example of the insanity: Although hard to locate now, there were stories and reports of an on-going theft of dictionaries
from all public repositories. These dictionaries were being replaced with a fake duplicate. The only alteration of the dictionary was the out side cover was
slightly different, evidently in order to more easily identify the replaced ones from the original, and the textual replacement was to redefine the meaning of the word "Ground Zero."

This was taking place after 9/11. I was able to verify the veracity of the story by visiting a couple local public libraries and comparing them with my
own small dictionary collection. I'm talking here about comparing the publication dates/edition to the covers and then to the altered definition of the mean of ground zero. This is just an example of how extreme and minute these people will micro manage in planing for a future change in the dialogue.

Now if you think this has to do with 9/11 you'd be right. If you also think it has to do with another future crime then you once more be correct.

I believe this is another planned part of another developing meme: That of the so called Mandeala Effect. I think this is all engineered, but engineered
so as to provide plausible explanations for the alteration of critical documents. Take from that what you will. The idea is to see the finger prints being
left behind. Consider who controls the original copy of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States of America, along with the
Supreme Laws of the People contained in the Bills of Rights.

Does anyone think for one second that the criminals who conducted the mass murder of 3,000 Americans in broad daylight, who have called
the Constitution nothing but a God Damned piece of paper would not also switch out those documents? Think again, and whose copies then will this
same criminal organization recognize then? Hate Speech is free speech. Any attempt to restrict what another person says, or can say, is sedition,
and any actual act in any other law is in reality high treason. The punishment for high treason is death. Did any of that stop them? Don't you think
they already know that?

People have been lead to think hate speech is about themselves as minorities; like a system of government whose economics is founded upon unwarranted taxation, and mass murder for profit through war has ethics and cares about any one at all. No, the goal of hate speech laws will ultimately be aimed at people like me. The people whom are writing about high crimes and acts of treason: Got guns and bullets?

The point of this rambling is to hopefully make some kind of cross connections to the themes of conspiracy to deprive others of rights, knowledge, speech,
liberty, justice, and to replace those with threats to life and limb, to bamboozle and deceive, to steal and to murder. How is a system operating on these principles, and now intentionally heading for far worse, supposed to have been truthful and worth believing? There's a real reason they don't want us having this technology and it has to do with themselves as slave owners, not with aliens visiting earth even if there are some dumb enough to show up here from time to time.

There is a brief 3 or 4 second film clip in Dr. Steven Greer's Disclosure Movie showing a hovering Nazi disk. The available evidence does suggest
that the German Scientists did solve the gravity riddle. Werner von braun himself said we can beat gravity. He half joking implied that it was already
a fact. If anyone would have known it would have been him. I think they did and I think that the Russians, the Americans, possibly the British & French,
and certainly Israel with all it's former slaves refugees from Nazi Germany had brought with them the knowledge. Israel has almost certainly had
knowledge of Nazi UFO Technology since 1945. I think it's highly plausible to conclude some or even all UFO sightings after 1945 could also be of
terrestrial origin based on what has been uncovered in the last 80 years.

Are there Aliens, well yes there has to be, it's mathematically impossible for there not to be, but do they come here often enough for millions of
us peons to see them 5 nights a week?
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Please...I can't hardly stand to think about it. I'm supposed to start my social security in 9 months. This means that everything you've brought here is going to happen. It is happening. How old people will survive is beyond me. Fortunately I've got bullets and a helmet.

About five years ago I thought about buying some bitcoins when they were like 40 cents each. Today they have pushed over 17k, and this while just a few months ago they were moving back and forth for under a 1K each, which even then I thought was crazy. Bitcoin is actually being forecast to 40k by summer by some people. People who have been accurate in forecasting crypto currency rises. I about fell off my chair when I realized how much this currency has risen in the last three or four months
Speaking of Bitcoin, no one is really certain who the actual originator of Bitcoin actually is. The name Satoshi Nakamoto is often heard, but appears to be only a nickname for the real originator. In November of 2015, WIRED US ran a story showing evidence from 2008 that the likely originator was Australian tech entrepreneur Craig Stephen Wright. Whatever the case may be, the originator and others who jumped in at or near the start of Bitcoin obviously made huge fortunes from it. The wise ones were those who kept those fortunes by cashing out at some point.

Two early Bitcoin promoters were Roger Ver and Emil Oldenburg, co-founders of Bitcoin.com. Oldenburg just recently said that he has sold all of his Bitcoins, and offered the following advice to would-be investors:
"I would say an investment in Bitcoin is right now the riskiest investment you can make. There’s an extremely high risk.” Oldenburg also says that Bitcoin is “virtually useless,” and has no future as a tradeable currency. The greatest drawback at this time is that, as traders will find, Bitcoin is highly illiquid, meaning that if one wishes to suddenly liquidate and unload all their Bitcoins if they see the price falling, the actual sale price of their holdings could fall dramatically before a buyer steps in.

As the Bitcoin.com website points out, the Bitcoin Core network processes all transactions in 1 Megabyte blocks, and has reached a maximum capacity of 2500 transactions per block. Verification of Bitcoin Core transactions requires time which is slowing the system dramatically. Since each transaction must be included within a block to be verified, a full block means that your transaction must wait for the next block to begin being processed. To make matters worse, wealthy transactors are allowed to "cut in line" with their transactions by paying a processing fee. The higher the fee paid, the sooner the transaction will be verified, which of course means that those paying small transaction fees, or no fees at all, could be waiting endlessly. That, of course, would make attempts at purchasing anything with Bitcoins practically useless. To get around these problems, Ver and Oldenburg are now both using and promoting Bitcoin Cash, which is transacted in 8 Megabyte blocks which supposedly allows for more transactions to be verified in less time and at lower fees. Time will tell how that works out, but it's not something I'd recommend.

Since Bitcoin is, just like Federal Reserve Notes, not backed by anything of actual value whatsoever, the idea that one Bitcoin can be worth thousands of Federal Reserve Notes (FRN's) makes perfect sense because the value of either currency is simply a perceived value having no basis in reality. At some point, which will probably be sooner than later, both FRN's and Bitcoin are very likely to collapse. Both can be likened to a Ponzi scheme, which is a topic I wrote about on page 1 of this forum. In such a scheme, those who get in early while the perceived value is rising, and then jump out before the perceived value begins plummeting, are the smart investors. They can then invest their worthless fortunes in things which really do have value - like real estate, precious metals, energy resources, or items necessary for maintaining a viable existence in uncertain times.

Lastly, while Bitcoin and most other cryptocurrencies are not backed by anything of real value, there may in fact be at least one exception and this is the Texas Republic Nation (TRN) Coins. TRN's are said to be backed by gold, silver, and other precious metals and minerals, although they can't be redeemed for anything which backs them. How this works is that TRN Coin has a limit of 50 million "coins." Users keep their "coins" in a virtual "wallet," and can participate in "data-mining" activity (transaction verifications) to earn more "coins." For each transaction a fee is charged, part of which is an administrative fee, and the remaining fee amount is applied toward purchasing more precious metals or minerals. Thus, if all goes as expected then the intrinsic value of each TRN coin steadily grows with each and every transaction. This seems to be a much better option than Bitcoin if one is interested in cryptocurrencies, though if you are interested in TRN Coins then be cautious enough to learn as much as you possibly can about them before considering an investment.
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I'm going to offer up discussion of a topic touched upon here in the past to some degree. That topic is the mysterious nature of the deaths of certain individuals who had knowledge which other individuals or groups did not want exposed. Some of that knowledge had to do with free energy devices or methods. I'm sure that anyone entering this forum is familiar with the story of how Stanley Meyer was poisoned, and certainly other inventors have met similar fates.

Another example is death, under suspicious circumstances, to those who had fallen upon information concerning the criminal activities of other individuals or groups. No doubt the most dangerous knowledge, or evidence, of such activities is direct knowledge or irrefutable evidence which presents a danger to the perpetrators of being exposed and likely held accountable. The degree of danger involved would be greatest, I'm sure you would agree, when the knowledge and/or evidence implicates government operatives in a conspiracy.

The typical method used by government in avoiding or minimizing damage from such disclosure is to threaten harm to the individual who possesses the knowledge or evidence, and usually that's enough to end the threat. For those who have already made disclosures which pose a substantial and imminent threat, the tactics employed usually begin with smearing the discloser's character by making the person out to be confused, lying, mentally ill, or simply inept. After such a character assault, most other people will be less likely to believe any further disclosures made by the individual, let alone any previous disclosures which were made. If the individual is strong-willed enough to persist after facing such character assassination, he or she can then be accused and convicted of criminal activity through planting of evidence, but if the threat posed by the individual is great enough then of course that individual must be terminated.

A good example of this type of threat elimination features Gary Webb, an investigative journalist who exposed the CIA link to cocaine distribution in America. The CIA, of course, has so much power and resources that destroying Webb's credibility was not a difficult task. When that wasn't enough to stop Webb from continuing to investigate and gather evidence, Gary was found dead in his home with two shotgun blasts to his head. His death was ruled a suicide by the medical examiner, and of course that is hardly a plausible explanation since any person who has blown their brains out with one shotgun blast is extremely unlikely to be able to fire a second blast. Then too, a friend of Gary Webb has spoken of a conversation in which he warned Gary that he might be "suicided," and Gary responded that if anything happened to him it would not be because of self inflicted suicide.

An excellent video about Gary Webb was prepared by The Corbett Report, and can be seen at this link. After watching the video, you will notice that it is just one video in a series of several which are titled Requiem for the Suicided. Each of these videos offers compelling evidence pointing to those who had the power and influence needed to stage fatal "accidents" and "suicides" without worry of being held accountable for them. There's nothing new about people being targeted for elimination in this manner, of course, as it has been used frequently throughout the ages by those wielding power and influence. Perhaps nothing is more improbable than the "accidents" and "suicides" which caused the deaths of so many people who had information which posed a threat to the Clintons. Of course that is another story.
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What a very good idea Ricoff and particularly pertinent on a site involved with free energy! Avoiding the obvious rabbit hole that goes on for ever - which system works, prove it and so on, and so the smoke and design arguments begin I propose a different tack, just by way of a change .
I personally know some of these devices work but having said that don't expect every reader to believe that. I also suggest that the Murder of any researcher like Stan Meyer (for instance) is a last resort and as far as the powers that be (hence collectively marked as (TPTB) are concerned doe's nearly as much damage as the device itself ,as demonstrated by quoting the name Stan Meyer in Ric's post.
Whilst I may not be able to change the opinion of determined free energy non believers an outline of the history and causes that could lead to the threats, maiming and yes as a last resort murder of researchers or preferably family members I think is useful.
It should perhaps come as no surprise that Stan knew very well that his chances of survival were minimal . It also should be of no surprise that if you should invent anything Novel then the government has first dabs.
usually a gagging order is issued at that stage and the subject is closed . Stan already a millionaire in his own right circumnavigated that hurdle by taking out many patents in various countries many of which were hostile to the USA, He couldn't then be expected to oblige a gagging order as the horse had already left the stable and bolted down the road.
Stan was well aware of the system and TPTB he effectively 'fell on his sword' so folks like Ric and others would be quoting him and his murder twenty five years later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGHv9qrbR5k
Is what Stan is telling us here the truth ? I believe it is, and will make the case using historic video footage and portrayal of the events. I do suggest that adamant free energy disbelievers carefully consider if what I show cold have happened because at best a parallel course of events shouldn't exist and if it does every effort should be made to block each and every avenue, Energy is so key to our survival and sciences that physiological conditioning has long been used to create the skepticism that rages across many of these pages . It seems to me its all about control ! so where to begin? I guess with oil, But first lets see what the response to Stans murder was, because of course we reap what we sow and get the governance we deserve. Stan took part in this little snip which I'm sure everyone has seen a few times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBQGbJ1v6zM
Then he got murdered, Its what folks seem to expect . Here's a radio commentary on that clip that goes some way to explaining why we have got what we deserve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuH72G5qXow
Who then are these power brokers ? TPTB that alter the course of humanity ? Its perhaps a good idea to take a look at one of first and his techniques, the close control of education and outlook . Introducing Devil Bill, quickly followed by others who still drive the bus that is humanity today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySnk-f2ThpE
This parallel course of possibilities associated with free energy seems to stretch back into history for ever and ever Amen . Indeed Raoul Hatem was firmly convinced it was the embodiment of good and evil. I opt to try and pick up the saga for you from the closing days of WW2 and what might be called 'modern history'
A very good case can be made that wars are a manufacture anyway for they have to be financed and facilitated. A clandestine CIA agent John Perkins, outlines that time period with particular regard to energy and why the worlds reserve currency was forced to abandon any connection to the gold standard, along with the threats bribes and assignations that were required to build a new empire for TPTB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPoZJNT1eM
for youngsters reading me and watching (thanks) who don't remember the gold standard or Kissenger and tricky Dicky. and had the good fortune to have missed the sharp end of the Vietnam war . Here's the gold standard (In fact any standard) being pushed over the cliff in slimy political speak. Very technical ? whats technical about welshing on your debts ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRzr1QU6K1o
So you have the picture a world Empire enslaved with energy which also ties and controls currencies.
If what I write and show is correct (even partially) what would you expect to be the fate of the discovery of another huge energy source ? or of a free energy inventor?
It so happens that such a free energy source made an embarrassing appearance on American soil. That tale is told by a lay preacher who was there at the time .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZFO1tq5OeI
You may wonder what was done with those huge reserves which couldn't be utilized in America or elsewhere . make a better weapon perhaps ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m63Yft7U8N4
The general direction TPTB are driving the bus that is humanity should really be of interest to most of us. After all if it doesn't bite us on the arse it will certainly bite our children and grandchildren unless we (all of us) put the brakes on.
As Britain battled the Axis forces alone for the first few years of WW2 she developed a plan B as devastating as the Atom bomb . It involved bombing the major cities of Germany with Anthrax spores.
Remote Islands off the coast of Scotland were used as testing grounds I believe Gruinard has only recently become suitable for very light human traffic. here is footage of that experiment with that deadly agent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mykjxkwwe0
It should then come as no surprise that The Third Reich also developed a 'plan B' Their plan B was organized by Martin Bormann Germany's minister of finance on the instruction of Adolf Hitler. A clandestine meeting of all the major corporations and big business movers and shakers was arranged at a hotel just outside Strasbourg . That meeting was infiltrated by a Frenchman sympathetic to the allied cause.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Reich--EU.html
Obviously doing the bidding of the defeated force required the operations of business and the big corporations to be anonymous and clandestine. The cause was aided hugely by the American plan 'operation paper clip' which as predicted by Bormann infected America with the top business men and scientists of the Reich.
That isn't to point a finger at America particularly because Russia and Britain were equally eager to jump into bed with the cream of the Third Reich if they could lay their hands on them.
In Europe this clandestine group dared their first meeting some decade or so later at a Hotel known to be sympathetic to the Nazi cause, In fact those who have watched the film 'a bridge to far' might recall it was where an SS Panzer division was unfortunately enjoying R and R The Hotel De Bilderberg . The unexpected arrival of German Tanks on the scene scuppered the allied plans.
The Red house accord has then morphed into the Bilderburg group and the group and 'the plan' has had huge success internationally, I don't particularly like the presentation style of Alex Jones, he seems to over egg the cake to me. He also seems under the strange illusion that America is the world rather than a republic who's total population isn't even as big as the Chinese census error factor.
Still that aside as with everything else here if there's even a remote chance that any of this video is true and a parallel politics of evil, murder and control exists then every avenue should be stopped by all of us using any means. Its a long documentary I'm afraid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L0_jsf4E1o
As far as 'free energy' goes its a case of the majority of humanity forcing conditions where researchers and inventors are free to develop,manufacture ,and sell systems . The people get what they deserve !
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The general direction TPTB are driving the bus that is humanity should really be of interest to most of us.

The people get what they deserve !
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concluding that the trial court's definition of involuntary servitude was too broad,
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the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

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Psychological coercion overcomes the individual's critical thinking abilities and free will - apart from any appeal to informed judgment.
Victims gradually lose their ability to make independent decisions and exercise informed consent.
Their emotional defenses, cognitive processes, values, ideas, attitudes, conduct and ability to reason are undermined,
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A very strange chapter in history

"Q" (Q anon) has more interesting news. The net is whirling with rumors of "thousands of indictments",, "Marines raid Langley"
Ben Fulford is passing rumors like confetti. https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/tag/benjamin-fulford/
This from Tomato Bubble, WHERE IS GEORGE SOROS?
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aljhoa & Danny very much enjoyed your posts and particularly the video w.r.t Robert David Steele . I confess I hadn't heard of this man before. and although I had heard of the term 'Deep state' didn't comprehend.
Its been a long march from the original question rickoff posed of 'if ,why ,and who' with regards to free energy research and I thank you for persistence with the links I posted.
I would like you to take into account that my obsession is particularly 'alternative energy' and is more correctly, focused on the extraordinary people who have achieved that Plato on a large scale .
Personally in my case the 'if ' has long ago been settled . Talking and interacting with some of these extraordinary and original thinking people and connecting their experiences resulted in the melody of links I have presented. (sorry it was so protracted)
I also find very much against the flow of general perception ,if you contact these guys personally and simply ask in a polite way, by enlarge they will tell you all you wish to know.
That the bits and pieces of this jig saw do and can fit together is disturbing in itself , despite the fact that there are laws and statutes in most countries expressly forbidding these covert actions.
So the question of 'free energy' seems to go far deeper than is usually presented and is allied with a lot of other dubious doings which are going on beyond my ken . Its now quite easy to see why individual researchers are knocked down like ducks at a fair ground shooting gallery.
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I have a new rumor

There are a lot of important people who seem to be slipping out of power. We all know about the super programs like Deep Blue.
You've heard, "Facebook abandoned an experiment after two artificially intelligent programs appeared to be chatting to each other in a strange language only they understood."
Here is a comment from a Zero Hedge article.

DuneCreature Jan 3, 2018 12:13 AM

There will be just enough war to keep the banksters in their East Hampton and London estates. ... They have a plan and it works like a well oiled machine and has for years now. .. Maybe a decade.

They don't have a plan actually.

They have a future making machine.

** >> Q Anon And The Grand Scheme - Motives and Methods << **

First we have to talk about:

AI (Artificial intelligence)

(NOTE - I hear the groaning going on out there in ZH reader land. ..... OK, you know-it-alls can skip on down to the next snarky post and continue the revelry, but for those who want to think things through a little deeper, read on, you may find it interesting at the very least or down right terrifying if you are a little nervous anyway.)

AI AL (Not its 'real name') is a 'war gaming' AND Command and Control computer (system) network owned by a very wealthy and powerful group of people. This group known by most folks as 'the elite' or banksters or the technocracy 'movers and shakers'.

We can discuss who is in this powerful group later but for now let us assume that they exist (as a loose group) and that their C&C AI system does too.

So how does AI AL work? ....... With almost complete autonomy, that's how.

The owners give AI AL goals, not the methods to achieve those goals. ........ Coming up with and picking which methods to use (and when) is what AI AL is all about.

Ok, so what do you suppose the goals are that AI AL was given by these super swell greedy psychopaths?

I'll tell you what I think they are:

The elite (Maybe 10,000 members total) want to own everything. .. All of the resources on the planet earth. ..The water, the air, all the minerals, all of the flora and fauna, all of the land AND ALL of the people. .... Own, have title to and control everything. .......... And to have 'life and death' power over everyone. ................ In the end the elite want approximately 500 million homo sapiens left alive on the planet and they want total control over that half a billion mortal souls.

That's it. .... Pretty simple, huh?

That short little goal set is a piece of cake for AI AL to accomplish.

Ok, so AI AL churns on the problem and comes up with a list of things that it will need to be done to achieve the goals given it by his (its) owners and the elites get cracking giving AI AL what it says it needs. .... AL wants a LOT of data and data collection nodes built and a command and control grid established. ....... That is an ongoing project, of course, but for the most part, all that collection grid and C&C system is in place right now.

AI AL then can issue orders to human 'employees' (Most have no clue they are taking instructions from a computer) and the elites make payroll for AI AL's little human army. .... A trivial cost when the reward is total world domination.

Remember AI AL picks ALL of the methods used and knows it must protect itself from the discovery of its existence by the unwashed.

You talk to AI AL every day and don't know it. ... AI AL is learning from you all of the time. .. It forgets nothing. Using what it learns from everyone for its next set of output instructions.

AL does things in a very, very compartmentalized way. .. AI AL is no dummy. .. You see, AL learns from us. The smartest among us. The difference is; AI AL has no conscience or empathy. .. AL is goal driven; Full stop.

Ok, let's relate this to our 'guy', Q.

Who is Q Anon? ..... AI AL.

Why is Q apparently turning on some of the same elites who probably own him (it)? ......... He (it) is thinning the ranks of the elites. .. Culling out the sloppy, drain bandaged and stupid (Think Killary and hubby). Giving everyone the illusion that the evil elements in positions of power that have been exposed to the daylight are being dealt with and purged. People can go back to sleep after a few show trials (and hopefully very public hangings) and AI AL can get back to achieving its real 'big picture' goal set.

AI AL is protecting himself (itself) and the elites as a group as much as anything else. ... The likes of Killary, Soros and Trump make high profile targets and are expendable to AI AL. ... AL may have a 'hands-off', untouchables, list of elites but Donald, Billy Bob Rapist and Bibi ain't on that 'no kill' list..... If that list even exists.

Sometimes the elites aren't as clever as they think they are and may have left some or all of their own pieces on AI AL battle plan map.

AI AL wasn't told it couldn't take ANY elite casualties. ... So some attrition of the super stupider elites is acceptable.

Some of this I know to be fact and some is pure speculation on my part. ........ You and AI AL can figure out which is what.

Live Hard, If You Want To Dominate The World Build A Total Planet Conquering Machine, Push The 'On' Button And Start Feeding It Resources, It Will Figure Out The How, When, Where And WHO(!) To 'Dominate' (Or Throw Under The Bus) Next, Die Free

There are several other comments that are worth reading.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...awaits-us-2018
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President Donald J. Trump Proclaims January 2018 as National Slavery Month

In addition to these governmental actions, Americans must learn how to identify and combat the evil of enslavement.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me
by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim January 2018 as National Slavery and
Human Trafficking Prevention Month, culminating in the annual celebration of National Freedom Day on February 1, 2018.
I call upon industry associations, law enforcement, private businesses, faith-based and other organizations of civil society, schools, families,
and all Americans to recognize our vital roles in ending all forms of modern slavery and
to observe this month with appropriate programs and activities aimed at ending and preventing all forms of human trafficking.


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Cancel net neutrality,,, NO problem

FCC Admits Ajit Pai Doesn’t Care About Backlash Over Net Neutrality Repeal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQXeWlcBEPA
He didn't care if we liked it or not. Times have changed.
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Who are the puppet masters, their modius operandi, and their objectives: Engineering a gullible population?

Human history is the history of gang warfare. This warfare has always been over who shall control the slaves. Organized crime began with organized religion. It's still with us today. It capitalized on a basic human need; the need to know, to believe you understand your world, to find self assurance in this knowledge, and hence a sense of safety and predictability. These needs are unique to humans. They aren't desires, they are requirements, and all humans have them. All successful rulers have understood the innate needs of humans.

To understand the roles people play in primitive societies is to see a simplified world of the human condition. When you do this humans are exposed for what they truly are. We have only one foot out of the mud for nothing has changed in the human condition for tens of thousands of years. One might desire a shinny new car instead of three pigs, but the end is still the same; a display of wealth and success. I'd recommend a film called "Dead Birds" by Michael Rockefeller. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Birds_(1963_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rockefeller

What makes our present time unique is an explosion in the expansion of knowledge, but along with this has come a refinement and organization of how to acquire information, which is part of the intent of so-called AI, and then using a refined and developed methodology to sort through this mountain of information in order exploit this information in as many ways as possible, and then to focus upon technological approaches which offer newer and improved ways to create complete and total control over the slaves.

Up to the present time the tools available to the rulers have had at their disposal to control the slave populations have been the same ones that have existed for thousands of years. State apparatchiks, religious mind controlling story tellers, and so-called education, itself a quasi-extension of the former educational system from which it was born. Thus, key personnel in key positions are the ancient strings of the puppet masters.

Key men, or U-men as the Nazi SD defined them, are controlled with a carrot and stick: Rewards vers the terror of exposure. Now if you were looking for the ideal tools to put in key positions of management then an already existing secret network of social outcasts would be highly desirable. This system was obviously not pioneered by the Nazi's, nor the Communists, but reaches far back in time.

Dead Sea Scrolls a fraud? But of course they are is my response.
The Anne Frank Diary Fraud
The Anne Frank Diary Fraud

"Not only is the "Anne Frank" diary now considered to be a fake, so also is "The Painted Bird" by Jerzy Kosinski." " When this was exposed, Kosinski committed suicide."

One has to wonder if this was suicide or another case of suicided for punishment of being exposed?

"Another book, allegedly by a Hungarian doctor, concerning his deportation from Budapest in 1944 and subsequent journey by "Death Train" to Auschwitz is another fraud. There was never such a doctor in Hungary during the period involved and the alleged route of the train from Budapest to Auschwitz did not exist."
https://www.sott.net/article/110625-...-Diary-a-fraud
The Anne Frank Diary Fraud by Brian Harring

It would be easy to see these examples as yet another case of Zionism gone wack'0, but the reality is probably quite another story, and in which there is the creation of destruction of the Jew's by their own hands and works. All of which was plotted out and almost certainly long before anyone ever heard the word fascism. I'm implying that the gangsta creating the melodies that people follow have these songs written long before they are broadcast to our eyes and ears. Adolf Hitler himself said as much; saying that at a secret meeting with unidentified backers, that there he himself meant the devil "incarnate". I believe I read this statement in William Manchester's book; "The Arms of Krupp." Anyways it is a matter of record that Hitler himself wrote this down and he emphasized the word "incarnate" as I have here -if I recall correctly.

The hidden history, the lies, the unknown; even after 80 years speaks more about the scope of totality of control than can be imagined. Where lies truth?
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* After thought here.
I realize this doesn't fit in precisely with Rickoff's suggestion; to follow a discussion on; "the mysterious nature of the deaths of certain individuals who had knowledge which other individuals or groups did not want exposed." However, I do think to have any credibility of such discussions it's a requirement to see these mysterious deaths not as individual actions, one's taken against those whose ideas and inventions might impact other industries and financial wealth, but to see these deaths are/were required in order to fulfill a long term agenda. Hopefully this may make some sense. I could expand on this in the case of Stan Meyers, but this post is more like a lead in to understanding a sustained agenda, and in which, in the minds of the self appointed rulers, we must each all fit in to. Otherwise you're kaput in their minds. At base it is a sustained system of conflict and for the rulers anything which portends to upset the potential to sustain this adversarial economy is expendable.
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A little humor! In Soviet times, political jokes were popular in him:

a modern joke!

Quote:
Trump wakes up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat. His wife asks:
"Donnie, what happened?"
"Honey, I had a nightmare." It's like the next Congress of the CPSU, on the podium, Putin says: "Dear comrades, we heard reports on the state of affairs in the Bryansk and Orlovschina. Now I would like to hear how things are at Washington. I give the floor to Comrade Trump, First Secretary of the Washington Regional Committee of the CPSU. " And I'm sitting and feeling - not ready. HERE IS NOT READY - AND EVERYTHING!
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a modern joke!
FACTOR VI -- CATTLE

Those who will not use their brains are no better off than those who have no brains,
and so this mindless school of jelly-fish, father, mother, son, and daughter,
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I was looking around in Pinterest. They have some pretty cool pics.
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