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Old 11-06-2014, 08:58 PM
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Of all the political argments currently in the public discourse, the argument AGAINST voter I.D. has got to be the well,....lamest. ........requiring a valid I.D. would be a good step, that would at least make them work harder. And I really think that most people think the argument that such a measure 'inconveniences and disenfranchises' poor voters is absurd. Arizona's law would give such people, (if they weren't drivers), a state issued photo I.D at no charge, once they proved who they were.
I have a friend living in Texas, where they did pass a tough voter ID law, and it was put in effect in time for this mid term election. He says that each person's ID is checked both for validity and against the voter's listing on the rolls. If there is any discrepancy then the voter is ushered out the door. It's so easy, and so sensible. I'm still trying to get them to do this here in Maine, where they simply use an honor system where you walk in at the polling place, say your name, they put a check mark next to your name on the voter roll, and hand you a ballot with no questions asked. There is never a question unless your name doesn't appear on the roll, or has already been check marked. And if your name has been check marked, and you are able to convince these people that you really haven't voted yet, and they allow you to vote, the person who fraudulently gave them your name earlier may very likely have negated your real vote because of the fact that both votes will now be counted. They of course cannot pull out the fraudulent vote because there is no marking system that would identify the ballot that was inserted in the reader earlier. I really think that a vast improvement over the current system would be to include a numbered stub on each ballot which could easily be detached and retained by the voter. After voting and returning to home, the stub number could be typed in to a search at a ballot confirmation website, and the result shown would either confirm the choices the voter had actually made at the voting booth, or it would show that the voter's choices had been bastardized. If the latter were the case, then there would be a provision at that website for filing a formal complaint. After determining that a complaint was filed by a valid registered voter, the ballot would be pulled using its matching ID number, discarded, and a new ballot would be issued to the voter. Of course this particular method would only apply to hand marked or punched paper ballots.

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Regarding the sweeping results of this election, I have no reason to think that it resulted from voting honesty and integrity, as one can be certain that all kinds of dirty tricks were utilized. Rather, the results show quite clearly that the People were totally fed up with the Obama agenda and simply gave Congress a mandate to stop that agenda. The lamestream news pundits are feverishly attempting to have us believe that this tidal wave of opposition is merely a demand that Congress begin accomplishing something by "working with the president" to finally get legislation passed. How ridiculous! If that's what the People really wanted then they would have voted Democrat.

The upcoming "lame duck" session will certainly be a dangerous time, as "Dirty Harry" Reid will do everything possible to quickly push through as many repugnant pieces of legislation and pork-fest add-ons as possible. And in the House, Boehner is likely to play along, just as he usually does. Now that Republicans control both houses of Congress, we should start seeing legislation to repeal or defund ObamaCare, audit the Federal Reserve, cut taxes, and cut spending. What we actually will see is probably something else. Of course they will claim that they can't do any of this because Barry will veto any such legislation, and that they don't have a large enough majority in the Senate for an override of his veto.

If past experience holds true this time around then it will be more of "Meet the new boss - same as the old boss," as The Who sang in Won't Get Fooled Again.
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Regarding the sweeping results of this election.............................


If past experience holds true this time around then it will be more of "Meet the new boss - same as the old boss," as The Who sang in Won't Get Fooled Again.

That is another thing I left out with the South Carolina Attorney General. He was getting very very old and his son took over right in his office when he got sick and finally died.

There are no elections, Period. Same as the ole Boss. These people are inside the secret order. Those black slaves better lay still and mind their manners so they can come out ahead of the Game.


The white SLAVE LORDS down there have complete rule, when the appeals court rulings over throw the "Grand Jury" consistently, you can see that buying off the judges is no problem.

And if money is not the issue the reasoning is because that THEY are protecting other organizations, such as the Catholic Priest tying up little boys to the bed rail.

Same Ole Boss, Yes.

Election booths are for people who are easily made to believe everything is run by the people so they run to the poles. This makes the manipulators look better because they can hide behind these facts. The facts are that people vote and this looks great to the masses when these RULERS can show a document that makes it look like the people voted THEM in.

Election poles are a smoke screen used to hide the lie and the people continue to go even though they can't figure out whats going on with the system.

They are doing what the RULERS knew they would do, Keep going to the poles. The voting poles and voter are helping these people ignorantly.

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"The central planners are in a state of fear and panic"
"In short, everything the central planners have tried has failed to bring widespread prosperity and has instead concentrated it dangerously at the top. Whether by coincidence or conspiracy, every possible escape hatch for 99.5% of the people has been welded shut."
"They've spurred the greatest wealth gap ever in US history, greater even than at the extremes of the Great Depression, apparently without the slightest concerns for Plutarch's ancient admonition that "An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics."
Central Planners Are In A State of Panic - Chris Martenson | Peak Prosperity


From what we know of the modes of operation of the PTB/Elites, they are adept at creating situations, crises, and disasters that allow them to increase control - not lose it. Such a scenario would completely destroy the infrastructure through which they move and operate, from high level finance to media manipulation, to academia, right down to the local public school system. They have been heavily invested in this infrastructure for a very long time.

The rise of psychopaths to positions of great power in government, institutions and corporations is a subject that SOTT.net has been warning of for many years. The psychopath is an excellent puzzle piece in the fractal pyramid due to his/her keen 'instinctive awareness' of who's boss, and can be counted on to always act in perceived self-interest. The actions of psychopaths are wholly without conscience and without benefit to others, certainly not in any intended sense. So, if the actions of fraud at the highest levels, and the inaction against investigation/prosecution are directed and encouraged, what might be the higher-level hidden agenda?

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Rick, I agree,...sort of

The pollsters tell us people are 'tired of gridlock',..etc. Personally, being a small government conservative/libertarian, I LIKE gridlock. Since I believe anything DC does is going to screw somebody, or create a new problem, I LIKE it when they don't do anything.
However, for those who don't like gridlock, there IS a smple solution. IMHO the next best thing to gridlock happens when ONE party controls both houses, while the other controls the WH. That forces compromise. At least it always has in the past. Thats when Clinton co-opted much of Republican agenda, and created work-fare, where recipients of welfare were required to work.
Anyway, again IMHO, the WORST scenario is where ONE party, doesn't matter which, controls all 3; WH and both houses of Congress. (Heres where I sort of agree with you; if people really want 'something to get done' in DC, they should have voted democratic; thank GOD they didn't.)So, one should forget ideaology, and policy, and simply vote for Congress based on which party controls the WH. But most people who vote won't apply LOGIC to their choice, they will vote based on emotion. Typical foolish humans, such strange creatures!! Jim
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simply vote for Congress based on which party controls the WH. But most people who vote won't apply LOGIC to their choice,

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My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.



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the fraud is that the corporation doing business as the United States of America (Inc.) — a governmental services company owned and operated by the Federal Reserve — “redefined” us as foreign situs trusts owned and operated under our own Names. They grossly abused the rights of usufruct to do this and created “States” and Americans on paper that they then “Pledged” as sureties backing the debts of the already bankrupt United States of America, Inc.

The further fraud is that FDR then signed over both the debts and the assets of the United States of America, Inc. to the IMF, which glutted itself on the lucrative service contracts via yet another governmental services corporation doing business as the UNITED STATES (INC.)

The World Bank, IBRD (International Bank of Reconstruction and Development), and Federal Reserve were ALL creditors in the bankruptcy of the United States of America, Inc., but the primary creditors were the hapless American people and their organic states. Although the 1934 Bankruptcy Act recognizes THEM as the Priority Creditors, the IMF never bothered to inform them or operate in an honest or appropriate fashion with regard to their material interests.

Instead, the IMF dba the UNITED STATES, INC. and the Bankruptcy Trustee chosen by the World Bank, IBRD, and Federal Reserve — the Secretary of the Treasury of Puerto Rico — siezed upon all the assets supposedly represented by the foreign situs trusts that the FDR “administration” created and rolled them over into Roman Inferior Trusts — Cestui Qui Vie Trusts, Karen. You are a lawyer. You should be familiar with what those are? Trusts formed when a person “disappears” for a prolonged period of time and their estate is seized and probated and distributed to heirs assigned by the court?

These Roman Inferior Trusts were all operated under our NAMES — e.g. JOHN QUINCY PUBLIC, and they were all “removed” to Puerto Rico for “safe keeping” by the Bankruptcy Trustee —thereby bringing American State assets and the private property assets of American State Citizens under Puerto Rican jurisdiction.

All these years the IMF, an agency of the UNITED NATIONS, and its spin off governmental services corporation dba UNITED STATES, INC. has been plundering the assets of The United States Trust (1789) and a good portion of that gold that you are so generously and eagerly handing out to everyone belongs to us as well as the Chinese who are already wolfing down the Strawberries and French Toast.


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Mercy Sakes good buddy yer causin an irreversible head rush i should have had years ago. I am not a lawyer but I understand a few things about "The Law"

You see "The Law" is for the lawless and there are plenty of good people who if given all of the facts would make a difference where all we have is complacency.

The system is out of control by design. These social rapist love to oppress the average man who wants only a tiny plot for his meager existence.

I really had not put all of those ideas into one pot for pouring. That is an awesome display of historical renderings that quite frankly are blowing my doors off today.

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the fraud is that the corporation doing business as the United States of America (Inc.) — a governmental services company owned and operated by the Federal Reserve — “redefined” us as foreign situs trusts owned and operated under our own Names. They grossly abused the rights of usufruct to do this and created “States” and Americans on paper that they then “Pledged” as sureties backing the debts of the already bankrupt United States of America, Inc.

The further fraud is that FDR then signed over both the debts and the assets of the United States of America, Inc. to the IMF, which glutted itself on the lucrative service contracts via yet another governmental services corporation doing business as the UNITED STATES (INC.)

The World Bank, IBRD (International Bank of Reconstruction and Development), and Federal Reserve were ALL creditors in the bankruptcy of the United States of America, Inc., but the primary creditors were the hapless American people and their organic states. Although the 1934 Bankruptcy Act recognizes THEM as the Priority Creditors, the IMF never bothered to inform them or operate in an honest or appropriate fashion with regard to their material interests.

Instead, the IMF dba the UNITED STATES, INC. and the Bankruptcy Trustee chosen by the World Bank, IBRD, and Federal Reserve — the Secretary of the Treasury of Puerto Rico — siezed upon all the assets supposedly represented by the foreign situs trusts that the FDR “administration” created and rolled them over into Roman Inferior Trusts — Cestui Qui Vie Trusts, Karen. You are a lawyer. You should be familiar with what those are? Trusts formed when a person “disappears” for a prolonged period of time and their estate is seized and probated and distributed to heirs assigned by the court?

These Roman Inferior Trusts were all operated under our NAMES — e.g. JOHN QUINCY PUBLIC, and they were all “removed” to Puerto Rico for “safe keeping” by the Bankruptcy Trustee —thereby bringing American State assets and the private property assets of American State Citizens under Puerto Rican jurisdiction.

All these years the IMF, an agency of the UNITED NATIONS, and its spin off governmental services corporation dba UNITED STATES, INC. has been plundering the assets of The United States Trust (1789) and a good portion of that gold that you are so generously and eagerly handing out to everyone belongs to us as well as the Chinese who are already wolfing down the Strawberries and French Toast.


The following is a true copy of a Facebook Conversation which took place July 17, 2014 between Former IMF Attorney Karen Hudes and Judge Anna von Reitz. Read it and decide for yourselves what you think: | Kentucky Marijuana Party


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Just signing in to say thanks for an informative post Aljhoa.
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What passes for education in 2014 and the years leading up to 2014 is a sorry excuse for education, as it should be. In years past, students were taught that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and all other true and valid laws were compliant and consistent with the constitution, the constitution being the "supreme LAW of the land. In the world of 2014, the constitution is a flexible, malleable and living document that is construed according to the popular will of the people, whether they actually participate in the democratic process or not. Thus we have the POTUS aligning himself with those who did NOT vote.

So, what is TRUE education? True education is what you get when you learn to think for your self. It is what you get when you can reason from cause to effect. It is what you get when you are enlightened to the deception and fraud that is rampant in this degenerate and corrupt society in which we now live in 2014. It was predicted years ago; every principle of the constitution will be repudiated. And, it has come to pass. For details, google the phrase for yourself.

Only by reading widely and paying attention to what you are reading will the TRUTH make itself known. Read, analyze, THINK and tease out the TRUTH, if you have the courage to do it. In some sense your LIFE depends on it.
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That's not fair Wayne, we have "one up" on the average shmoe and yes the prediction I read wasn't from Nostradamus, just like you.

The true is in all of history we have the records that show the gradual decline in morality as set forth by the Constitution. I think the biggest thing I see for instance is men kissing on the mouth. Johnny Depp, Michael Douglas and so many more kissing on talk shows to show their twin orientation.

All great societies or empires rise and fall. If you look close you will see that the old system is removed when the grossness of the leadership is so unbearable that even the most lawless young persons will destroy it in favor of a partial sanity.

The younger who take over will decline and the system cycle starts again. It is the cry of the people that causes the young men to arise to the righteous challenge.

Our system today is a world wide system and there is no where to run. There is no one to rise above it because it controls all. This one world system is now here as foretold for generations and no one will escape this forced test.

We have been talking about what each of us consider right and wrong by OUR definition. We compare it to how men run the government, we call it a ruling class. THEY are dictators at heart.

THEY do not honor the rules that their fathers lived by. They will have no rules. This is why these controllers will not have a woman, because the woman represents the standard for good clean law abiding living.

The idea is that THESE CONTROLLERS must show their complete hatred for the old standards so it is not just the doing away with the woman. Any man who can send his woman to another woman because he does not want her will have no problem raping his own daughter or killing his own son.

I know this sounds way out there for many of you listening in but the question is, where does this Law Violating Control freak stop?

What lie will he give you in order to get his way because he knows you will never except him if he is caught robbing and murdering the innocence of the young and unaware.

What kind of leaders do we have today? When will the young men say "it is enough"???

The sound of war is all around. Look at Russia. Do you think Russia will sit idle by while the UN struts nude in front of the world like a drag queen? The Father-Land with all of it's beautiful songs of wonder to honor their country exchanged for Gilligan's Island with the skipper and Giligan doing the wild thing? DO you understand that these controllers are the most discussing bunch who have ever lived?

All I am saying is "Don't side with this Ditch" Don't fall for this NEW WORLD nonsense like everything is wonderful. Most people do you know?

We aint seen nuttin yet. Remember when Bush put up the bird to the camera?

Remember when Clinton got off in the WHITE HOUSE? These people are filthy dogs and if you side with them you will be in big trouble when the stuff comes down. It is coming. Enjoy what you have while you can Rejoice. Stay away from the scum suckers way of thinking.

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What passes for education in 2014 and the years leading up to 2014 is a sorry excuse for education, as it should be. In years past, students were taught that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and all other true and valid laws were compliant and consistent with the constitution, the constitution being the "supreme LAW of the land. In the world of 2014, the constitution is a flexible, malleable and living document that is construed according to the popular will of the people, whether they actually participate in the democratic process or not. Thus we have the POTUS aligning himself with those who did NOT vote.

So, what is TRUE education? True education is what you get when you learn to think for your self. It is what you get when you can reason from cause to effect. It is what you get when you are enlightened to the deception and fraud that is rampant in this degenerate and corrupt society in which we now live in 2014. It was predicted years ago; every principle of the constitution will be repudiated. And, it has come to pass. For details, google the phrase for yourself.

Only by reading widely and paying attention to what you are reading will the TRUTH make itself known. Read, analyze, THINK and tease out the TRUTH, if you have the courage to do it. In some sense your LIFE depends on it.
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This idea of superiority to other people is so inbred that it has probably become a hereditary character for which the individual is entirely irresponsible. But a paranoid make-up is not particularly dangerous to its possessor who is otherwise normal, unless by great stress or a very unusual combination of disagreeable experiences this tendency be diverted into abnormal channels.

The chief danger lies in the accentuation of the character by too close inbreeding with those having a like tendency. In fact, the gen- eral attitude of the person who has this paranoid make-up in a mild degree may be said to be an enviable one rather than otherwise. He is aggressive in upholding his rights, suspicious of attempts to thwart him in the pursuit of the same, and strives constantly to reach the goal of his ambitions. These are all admirable traits. It is only when they become accentuated to the point where they are pervaded by delusions of grandeur and persecution, that they render the person possessing them a menace to society.







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Most engineers and many non-engineers know the 80-20 rule and I think it can be applied to the topic at hand. 80 percent feel powerless and won't do anything to change the situation. 20 percent will take a stand and do what they think is best. Will the 20 percent act out of pure self interest or will they realize that society is interdependent as opposed to dependent or independent? Perhaps I am unfair, but I am not convinced. Something is going haywire is society. I don't think we are that far apart, but can we find a common language to express our common ground? I believe good and evil exist. Good benefits the most. Evil seeks to gain advantage by pushing other people down. The difference is self interest vs. "enlightened" self interest. The elite (call them what you may) are acting evil. Put the other way around, Evil has by and large captured and corrupted the elite.

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Depending on how hungry the Homies are on the block you went down will determine whether you might need to gun to wave, at least.

The majority are okay but when 1000's are walking by in an hours time, you could run into 3 or 4 killers who are drug addicted, pimp or pusher. There is a window that you look into called the peoples eyes.

I can look at people and see what they are, after seeing so many, for such a long time. I know what they are and will do. They are street rats in Detroit. A street rat goes down into his or her hole in the ground. The never looks up to the higher calling of man, where common decency with a fair shake resides.

These men and women have grown up and old, in the streets. They respond as conditioned, like animals will. It is very dark on the streets. The rats service the money.

If the Judge of any district wants the hot piece of butt freshly emerging in the hood, the rats all talk. The rats all know the sorted details. The big money folks are rats also, at heart.

If the big money wants a huge shipment of recreational drugs the rats on all of the levels from bottom to the top hear everything in the vine. It is their life to know.

The lower levels or basements stretch 50 square miles where another world exists. Sheltered from the cold with anything you want. The police are not permitted in. Iron bars and guns at the door of private property isolates the world above from the world (literally) below.

Unless you have been to these places enough and grown up around these areas you would not get very far before being robbed and beaten.

It is a war to stay alive and away from the rats who are constantly recruiting. Motorcycle clubs like the hells angels are in my hood where I grow up. These types are heroin addicts many times who travel from bar to bar starting fights for no reason.

The rulers want to keep these jungles the way they are. The rulers have worked long and hard to keep their trafficking arrangement alive spending millions for space, permits, as well as runners.

The rulers traffic people and they have no intention of stopping what has taken them decades to build. It is a sale to the high bid and the RULERS make huge returns in the trafficking of the people who live there.

This not some accidental development where the street rats are running aimlessly for a few crumbs, no no.

If the money wants a little boy the money talks.

The rulers are out for themselves. They have the power to keep it like this.

The people who live down there know all of these things that I speak. It's only the stupid people with white shirts who have their heads in the sand thinking all kinds of things whatever they are told by these same rulers in the NEWS. Like cows they are herded by the media, dumb animals who want to believe the world is run by GOOD honest to goodness rulers.

We are about to see America fall. For now, enjoy it while the day is still young and follow your dreams. And for pete sakes good buddy "stay away from these cities" or take your life in your own hands FOOL

Thanks "Al" for the sign reminder. I live in Kansas now and there is just "no place like home" I have escaped with my life to find a better place. I call home. The boards are on all the windows, burnt upper floors, spray paint on siding "FOLKS UP" or the other guys "FOLKS DOWN" the rats will take a ladies purse trying to travel one block on a three wheel battery operated chair.

The rats will rape her afterwards if she is going into her house when her purse is being taken. The old hood keeps me in bad dreams and in tears before the SELF EXISTENT ONE.

I love my life here in Kansas

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This idea of superiority to other people is so inbred that it has probably become a hereditary character for which the individual is entirely irresponsible. But a paranoid make-up is not particularly dangerous to its possessor who is otherwise normal, unless by great stress or a very unusual combination of disagreeable experiences this tendency be diverted into abnormal channels.

The chief danger lies in the accentuation of the character by too close inbreeding with those having a like tendency. In fact, the gen- eral attitude of the person who has this paranoid make-up in a mild degree may be said to be an enviable one rather than otherwise. He is aggressive in upholding his rights, suspicious of attempts to thwart him in the pursuit of the same, and strives constantly to reach the goal of his ambitions. These are all admirable traits. It is only when they become accentuated to the point where they are pervaded by delusions of grandeur and persecution, that they render the person possessing them a menace to society.







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Maybe TPTB aren't so evil after all, they're keeping the killing fields going so the rest of us can live decent on the deaths of others. That could be a reason why there are so many Senators/House folks that protect the Fed (military funding) and the Industrial War Machine.
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We aint seen nothing yet, now we have RULERS who will use this stuff against whoever they please over the weekend XMAS holyday.

























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As early as September 13, 1939, The New York Times reported the Reich's determination to make Polish Jewry disappear, a headline declaring, "Nazis Hint Purge of Jews in Poland." A subhead added, "3,000,000 Population Involved." The article quoted the German government's plan for the "removal of the Polish Jewish population from the European domain." The Times added, "How . . . the 'removal' of Jews from Poland [can be achieved] without their extermination . . . is not explained." Germany had plans. Polish Jews, during a sequence of sudden relocations, were to be catalogued for further action in a massive cascade of repetitive censuses and registrations with up-to-date information being instantly available to various Nazi planning agencies and occupation offices. How much usable forced labor for armament factories could they generate? How many thousands would die of starvation each month? A spectrum of Nazi census, registration, and statistical tabulation was performed on custom-designed IBM punch-card programs and machinery.


Once the U.S. Entered the war in December 1941, Germany appointed a Nazi devoted to IBM, Hermann Fellinger, as enemy-property custodian. He maintained the original staff and managers of Watson Business Machines, keeping it productive for the Reich and profitable for IBM. The subsidiary now reported to IBM's Geneva office, and from there to New York. The company was not looted, its leased machines were not seized. "Royalties" were remitted to IBM through Geneva. Lease payments and profits were preserved in special accounts. After the war, IBM recovered all its Polish profits and machines. Since the war, IBM, having left Madison Avenue for new headquarters in suburban Armonk, has obstructed, or refused to cooperate with, virtually every major independent author writing about its history, according to numerous published introductions, prefaces, and acknowledgments. But silence cannot alter the historical documentation. A tangle of subsidiaries throughout Europe helped IBM reap the benefits of its partnership with Nazi Germany. After all, "business" was IBM's middle name.


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Howdy all,

I'm sure you all heard and saw the Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber bragging about deceiving the American people, who he thinks are stupid.
GRUBER: "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage." - YouTube

I hope you've seen many prominent Democrats denying knowledge of Jonathan Gruber or seeing any of Jonathan Gruber work on the Affordable Care Act (or) ObamaCare. So I've compiled a listing of his PUBLISHED works a few are publication acknowledgments for the faint of heart ...... and the Democrats are all lying sacks of VooDoo wombat juice.

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The Affordable Care Act does contain what MIT economist Jonathan Gruber calls (approvingly) a “spaghetti approach to cost control”. This includes a grab-bag of Medicare pilot projects and payment reforms including Accountable Care Organizations, bundled payment systems, and pay-for-performance initiatives. The strategy, insofar as it can be called a strategy, is to throw “a bunch of stuff at against the wall to see what sticks.”
Health Care Reform without the Individual Mandate (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-c...er_mandate.pdf

The Past, Present and Future of U.S. Health Care Reform (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://indstate.edu/business/NFI/lea...-07_Gruber.pdf

CONTROLLING HEALTH CARE COSTS THROUGH LIMITED NETWORK INSURANCE PLANS - EVIDENCE FROM MASSACHUSETTS STATE EMPLOYEES (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.nber.org/papers/w20462.pdf

Medicaid (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.nber.org/chapters/c10254.pdf

Daring to Be Cautious? - Bigger Steps Needed for Medicare Cost-Sharing Reform (Acknowledgment)
http://www.aei.org/wp-content/upload...3140641984.pdf

The Affordable Care Act in an Economy with Federal Disability Insurance (Acknowledgment)
The Affordable Care Act in an Economy with Federal Disability Insurance by Yue Li :: SSRN

Crowd out 10 years later: Have recent public insurance expansions crowded out private health insurance (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://economics.mit.edu/files/6422

The Impact of the ACA on Maine’s Health Insurance Markets, Maine (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.maine.gov/pfr/insurance/r...Impact_ACA.pdf

The Affordable Care Act in an Economy with Public Disability Insurance (Acknowledgment)
http://www.carleton.ca/economics/wp-...r-140228pm.pdf

The Incidence of Mandated Maternity Benefits (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
https://www3.nd.edu/~wevans1/class_p...y_benefits.pdf

Covering the Uninsured in the U.S. (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.nber.org/papers/w13758.pdf

The Impacts of the Affordable Care Act - How Reasonable are the Projections ? (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.nber.org/papers/w17168.pdf

The Impact of the ACA on Wisconsin's Health Insurance Market (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/health-...ly-18-2011.pdf

Handbook of Health Economics
Chapter 12 - Health Insurance and the Labor Market (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://kie.vse.cz/wp-content/uploads..._Volume_1A.pdf

Public Health Insurance and Private Savings (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://gatton.uky.edu/faculty/yelowitz/yelowitz-jpe.pdf

Patient Cost-Sharing and Hospitalization Offsets in the Elderly (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://economics.mit.edu/files/6413

THE TAX EXCLUSION FOR EMPLOYER-SPONSORED HEALTH INSURANCE (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.nber.org/papers/w15766.pdf

The Role of Consumer Co-payments for Health Care - Lessons from the RAND Health Insurance Experiment and Beyond (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files....13/01/7566.pdf

HEALTH INSURANCE, LABOR SUPPLY, AND JOB MOBILITY - A CRITICAL REVIEW OF THE LITERATURE (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
http://www.nber.org/papers/w8817.pdf

Getting the Facts Straight on Health Care Reform (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
(PDF)

Job - Lock and Health Insurance Premiums: Evidence from the Massachusetts Health Care Reform (Acknowledgment)
http://economics.stanford.edu/files/...is-May2013.pdf

Key Insights on Dental Insurance Decisions Following the Rollout of the Affordable Care Act (Acknowledgments)
http://www.aapd.org/assets/1/7/HPIBr...s-ACA.ashx.pdf

Medicaid in Ohio - The Choice is Clear (Acknowledgment)
http://uncoverobamacare.com/wp-conte...-OhioPaper.pdf
Economists, including ACA architect Jonathan Gruber, estimate that the Medicaid expansions occurring in the late 1990s and early 2000s produced a crowd-out effect of 60 percent

The Oregon Health Insurance Experiment
Oregon Health Study -- Home
The New England Journal of Medicine
The Oregon Experiment — Effects of Medicaid on Clinical Outcomes (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
(PDF)
The Impact of Medicade on Clinical Outcomes: Evidence from the Oregon Health Insurance Experiment (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
(PDF)
Supplemental Appendix (Acknowledgment)
(PDF)

Hearing of the Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions - United States Senate June 11, 2009 (Jonathan Gruber)
- HEALTHCARE REFORM ROUNDTABLE (PART I)

'Cadillac' tax isn't a tax -- it's a plan to finance real health reform (Author - Jonathan Gruber)
Jonathan Gruber - 'Cadillac' tax isn't a tax -- it's a plan to finance real health reform



I'm sure you all might already know what I think of Jonathan Gruber and the issue of ObamaCare ......

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Yes, Glen, and Jonathan Gruber should be forced to pay back the $400,000 that he was paid for his deceptively crafted ObamaCare architecture. What a sham.
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Ah, yes, Al. I've been following Anna Von Reitz's writings since early this summer, and everything she stated is factual. A lot of what she talks about has been set forth in earlier posts this thread. I've also learned a few things from Anna that I hadn't known full details about before. A friend and author (David Robinson), living here in Maine, gave me a book he published in July named "Disclosure 101: What You Need To Know" which he compiled from several e-mails and pdf's that Anna had sent directly to him, and it is very informative. It really does connect all the dots, so to speak. You can take a peek inside the book at the above link to Amazon.com, and can read several pages of it. I'd advise everyone to get a copy of this and study it well and often. There's so much good info that you will want to read it over and over, and take notes.

And here's a link to another of Anna's writings, The Nut Is Cracked.

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Ah, yes, Al. I've been following Anna Von Reitz's writings since early this summer, and everything she stated is factual. A lot of what she talks about has been set forth in earlier posts this thread. I've also learned a few things from Anna that I hadn't known full details about before. A friend and author (David Robinson), living here in Maine, gave me a book he published in July named "Disclosure 101: What You Need To Know" which he compiled from several e-mails and pdf's that Anna had sent directly to him, and it is very informative. It really does connect all the dots, so to speak. You can take a peek inside the book at the above link to Amazon.com, and can read several pages of it. I'd advise everyone to get a copy of this and study it well and often. There's so much good info that you will want to read it over and over, and take notes.

And here's a link to another of Anna's writings, The Nut Is Cracked.

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Hey Al

That's the good stuff. I remember back in the 60's grandpa got mad as a hornet when he talked about the politicians. He was in the Korean war.

Grandpa claimed that way back then our government was being over run with people who hated freedom in America. I see what he means now 50 years later.

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As early as September 13, 1939, The New York Times reported the Reich's determination to make Polish Jewry disappear, a headline declaring, "Nazis Hint Purge of Jews in Poland." A subhead added, "3,000,000 Population Involved." The article quoted the German government's plan for the "removal of the Polish Jewish population from the European domain." The Times added, "How . . . the 'removal' of Jews from Poland [can be achieved] without their extermination . . . is not explained." Germany had plans. Polish Jews, during a sequence of sudden relocations, were to be catalogued for further action in a massive cascade of repetitive censuses and registrations with up-to-date information being instantly available to various Nazi planning agencies and occupation offices. How much usable forced labor for armament factories could they generate? How many thousands would die of starvation each month? A spectrum of Nazi census, registration, and statistical tabulation was performed on custom-designed IBM punch-card programs and machinery.


Once the U.S. Entered the war in December 1941, Germany appointed a Nazi devoted to IBM, Hermann Fellinger, as enemy-property custodian. He maintained the original staff and managers of Watson Business Machines, keeping it productive for the Reich and profitable for IBM. The subsidiary now reported to IBM's Geneva office, and from there to New York. The company was not looted, its leased machines were not seized. "Royalties" were remitted to IBM through Geneva. Lease payments and profits were preserved in special accounts. After the war, IBM recovered all its Polish profits and machines. Since the war, IBM, having left Madison Avenue for new headquarters in suburban Armonk, has obstructed, or refused to cooperate with, virtually every major independent author writing about its history, according to numerous published introductions, prefaces, and acknowledgments. But silence cannot alter the historical documentation. A tangle of subsidiaries throughout Europe helped IBM reap the benefits of its partnership with Nazi Germany. After all, "business" was IBM's middle name.


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Two sheriffs from Massachusetts are organizing a Sheriffs Against Amnesty march on Washington DC by sheriffs from all over the country who are fed up with unlawful administration policies that grant amnesties to illegal aliens while failing to enforce existing immigration laws. The plan is to assemble in Washington and march to the House of Representatives, where they will present the House with a pre-drawn legislative bill and demands that the legislators take action to pass such legislation. The March is scheduled for December 10th, and it appears that at least 2 dozen sheriffs have already signed on to participate after reading a letter from sheriff Thomas Hodgson of Bristol County, Massachusetts, who is spearheading the effort. Hodgson is hoping to be backed up by at least 200 sheriffs, which shouldn't be difficult to achieve if sheriffs who read his call to action take their oaths of office seriously. Sheriffs offices exist in 48 of the 50 states, and there is normally a sheriff assigned to each county of a state. There are more than 3,000 counties in the US of A, so there should be a like number of sheriffs available for this march. Those who don't participate will be showing where their loyalty lies. You can read more about this effort here.
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Here is a report on how Police suffer everyday. They will all vote yes on the assembly even if they can't all be there that day. illegals run drugs for the USA Gov. They will shoot the Police no problem. They will shoot anyone in their way. When I lived in Pontiac, a few miles out of Detroit in the 1960's-1990's Police arrested illegals daily.

"You want some good crack mister"? said the little 10-12 year old boys to me as I passed them on the sidewalk. In the 1980's it was not uncommon for the siding of houses to be machine gun peppered. Sprayed by flying bullets will automatic weapons.

The Police would empty a two story house full of illegals, taking them all to jail with their drugs and a week later the house was already filling back up. The drug Lords own that area. Some Police stayed at the Donut shop at the wrong time of the night or they might be shot at.

If you went to the 7-11 after dark in the winter around 6-8oc gun fire over a bad drug deal became normal for these areas.

This is 30 years later.

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Two sheriffs from Massachusetts are organizing a Sheriffs Against Amnesty march on Washington DC by sheriffs from all over the country who are fed up with unlawful administration policies that grant amnesties to illegal aliens while failing to enforce existing immigration laws. The plan is to assemble in Washington and march to the House of Representatives, where they will present the House with a pre-drawn legislative bill and demands that the legislators take action to pass such legislation. The March is scheduled for December 10th, and it appears that at least 2 dozen sheriffs have already signed on to participate after reading a letter from sheriff Thomas Hodgson of Bristol County, Massachusetts, who is spearheading the effort. Hodgson is hoping to be backed up by at least 200 sheriffs, which shouldn't be difficult to achieve if sheriffs who read his call to action take their oaths of office seriously. Sheriffs offices exist in 48 of the 50 states, and there is normally a sheriff assigned to each county of a state. There are more than 3,000 counties in the US of A, so there should be a like number of sheriffs available for this march. Those who don't participate will be showing where their loyalty lies. You can read more about this effort here.
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I'm not opposed to this Amnesty and I think it's a pointless matter for these Sheriff's to be protesting. These illegal people are already inside the USA and I think there are more long term benefits to giving them Amnesty than there is in trying to cover the cost of deportation.

Of course Amnesty is also counter productive in the long run if the government refuses to close the borders because more migrants will come seeking the same. If the government would first close the border then great, give the people amnesty and end all the back and forth.

I will say I think the American people are too blind to see that if the border is in fact closed the huge negative economical impact will be far greater than anyone can imagine. They will just have to learn the hard way but since I think in Jan 2016 the dollar will crash its a pointless argument anyway.

Its also interesting Obama was suppose to deliver a decision today on immigration reform and amnesty, ironic its Mexico's Independence day. coincidence?
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