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Odd isn't it .... the WORLD population is 7.1 billion HUMANS existing on the earth.

The United States national debt is almost 17 TRILLION dollars ......

I'm not totally positive .... but isn't that split up about $2,300.00 (USD) for every man, woman and child, old to just born, white, black, brown, red and green, for every human that creepith and walks the EARTH ?????

I think this is a lot of friggen MONEY the United States owes looking at the LARGER picture .......

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SHhhhhhhhh dotn tell anyone the real numbers as then it looks more and more like the Ponzi Scheme it really is.

How do they (The Feds) continue to get away with it? Ok well I know how they do but thats another issue
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@Rick,

When I click the petition link to oppose the Detroit bailout, it just takes me to the energetic forum home page?

If we allow congress to sign us up for this bailout I fear many more cities will soon follow.

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Isn't that about the same amount of money ($25,000.00 US Dollars) that each person still remaining in the USA would have to pay to cover the Federal budget debt? Not counting all the other debt that is owed.
I'm not quite sure if you are asking about the federal budget deficit or the national debt. Many people don't understand that there is a difference. The budget deficit (total budgeted expenses less total revenues) for fiscal year 2013 is about 1 trillion, which is a one with twelve zeros after it, so looks like this: $1,000,000,000,000

The stated national debt (far less than the true national debt) is about 17 trillion, which looks like this: $17,000,000,000,000

The current US population is a bit over 316 million, and the world population stands at a little over 7 billion. (See US and World population clocks here)

Therefore, the 2013 budget deficit of about $1 trillion represents a single year debt of $3,165 for every man, woman, and child populating the US, while the stated national debt of $17 trillion imposes a debt 17 times that size (or $53,805) per person. While that's shocking enough, it really doesn't tell the true story for these reasons:
1. The stated national debt doesn't include the $125 trillion in current unfunded liabilities for social programs. When you add that in, the current national debt is $142 trillion, which represents a debt of $449,367 for every American man, woman, and child.
2. The "national debt" only takes into account the debt burden imposed by the federal government, and does not consider state debts, corporate debts, or personal debts, thus even the $449,367 figure stated above is way low of actual per capita debt.
3. The burden of debt is not going to be carried on the backs of anyone but taxpayers, either now or in the future, and we don't have 316 million taxpayers. In 2013 there were 114 million persons who were counted as taxpayers due to the fact that they were included in tax filings which showed they had earned income. The national debt per stated taxpayer now becomes $142 trillion divided by 114 million, which is $1,245,614 or nearly one and one quarter million dollars!
4. Not all of tax filers actually faced a tax burden. A great many filed only to receive refunds based upon earned income credits and child tax credits. If you include as "taxpayers" only the number of people who actually paid out more in federal taxes than they received in tax credits and welfare benefits then you can see that the true debt burden per actual taxpayer is probably closer to $2 million, seeing as close to half of US households have no net tax burden.

A good question to ask is: Where would the "money" come from that would be necessary to pay that amount of debt? The answer is that the debt could never be repaid because that amount does not exist, has never existed, and never will exist. Currently there is only about $1.2 trillion in US coins and Federal Reserve notes in circulation worldwide, and the greater part of that amount, according to the Federal Reserve, is held in foreign countries, mainly in the form of $100 FRN's.

The Federal Reserve strategy, quite obviously, has been to create an ever growing cycle of unrepayable US debt. At the point in time when even the interest on the national debt is more than can be paid (and that time is not far away), the Fed will cite that default as reason to demand full payment of all debt owed them. And since that amount of US dollars is non-existent, payment will have to be made in other ways - such as by handing over title to all government owned lands, etc. Currently, about 1/3 of all land in the United States is owned by the federal government, a fact which few people realize. Those seated in our federal government would hand those lands over to the Fed with zero resistance, because they know that Section 4 of the 14th Amendment to our Constitution declares that "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law,...... shall not be questioned."
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When I click the petition link to oppose the Detroit bailout, it just takes me to the energetic forum home page?
Sorry about that, Gene. I went back in and fixed that. And thanks to IndianaBoys for posting a correction.
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The Federal Reserve strategy, quite obviously, has been to create an ever growing cycle of unrepayable US debt. At the point in time when even the interest on the national debt is more than can be paid (and that time is not far away), the Fed will cite that default as reason to demand full payment of all debt owed them. And since that amount of US dollars is non-existent, payment will have to be made in other ways - such as by handing over title to all government owned lands, etc. Currently, about 1/3 of all land in the United States is owned by the federal government, a fact which few people realize. Those seated in our federal government would hand those lands over to the Fed with zero resistance, because they know that Section 4 of the 14th Amendment to our Constitution declares that "The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law,...... shall not be questioned."
The Revolutionary War was fought and concluded when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington at Yorktown. As Americans we have been taught that we defeated the king and won our freedom. The next document I will use is the Treaty of 1783, which will totally contradict our having won the Revolutionary War. (footnote 2).

The long and short of it is nothing changed, the government just made it plainer, the 1040 is the payment of a foreign tax to the king/queen of England. We have been in financial servitude since the Treaty of 1783.

Another Treaty between England and the United States was Jay's Treaty of 1794 (footnote 5). If you will remember from the Paris Treaty of 1783, John Jay Esqr. was one of the negotiators of the Treaty. In 1794 he negotiated another Treaty with Britain. There was great controversy among the American people about this Treaty.

In Article 2 you will see the king is still on land that was supposed to be ceded to the United States at the Paris Treaty. This is 13 years after America supposedly won the Revolutionary War. I guess someone forgot to tell the king of England. In Article 6, the king is still dictating terms to the United States concerning the collection of debt and damages, the British government and World Bankers claimed we owe. In Article 12 we find the king dictating terms again, this time concerning where and with who the United States could trade. In Article 18 the United States agrees to a wide variety of material that would be subject to confiscation if Britain found said material going to its enemies ports. Who won the Revolutionary War?

It is clear that the Bankrupt, defacto government of the united States, which is operating under the War Powers Act and Executive Orders; not the Constitution for the united States, has in effect issued under its Admiralty Law, Letters of Marque (piracy) to its private agencies IRS, ATF, FBI and DEA, with further enforcement by its officers in the Courts, local police and sheriffs, waged war against the American People and has classed Americans as enemy aliens.

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Note: If the following quote speaks of things that are all too familiar with you, and you recognize that this is exactly what has been, and currently is, going on in this country, then you are are one of the People who has awakened to truth and understand that the greatest threat to our Republic, our freedoms, and our liberties, comes from within our nation's borders, and comes in the form of a tyrannical government which is hell bent on destroying our Republic and instituting a one-world government, or New World Order, under which the multitudes will become one of two things: useless eater expendables, or slave laborers.

"Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby: Get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. Destroy the peoples faith in their natural leaders by holding up the latter to ridicule, contempt and obloquy. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of government towards such disorders. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless." - Vladimir Ilich Lenin, First Supreme Commissar U.S.S.R (from his plan for bringing down a free nation, as found in his “April Theses” directives)

At no previous time in the history of our nationhas it become so blatantly obvious as it is today that all of the things directed above by Lenin are being carried out, in the most forceful and psychologically effective manner possible, by the current regime in Washington. Only the blindest of sheeple would not recognize this.
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I thought this was a pretty good video, "We the people stimulus package", talking about the law/constitution being ignored:

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The movie "Zeitgeist" is a must see for anyone who is interested in this topic
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Yes, it's a must see, but probably not for the reasons you may think. I strongly urge you to follow this link to a post I made in May of 2011 to caution those who view any of the Zeitgeist series videos.
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[IMG]July 30, 2013 - Re: Civil Disobedience, Edward J. Snowden, and the Constitution Dear Mr. President: You are acutely aware that the history of liberty is a history of civil disobedience to unjust laws or practices. As Edmund Burke sermonized, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” Civil disobedience is not the first, but the last option. Henry David Thoreau wrote with profound restraint in Civil Disobedience: “If the injustice is part of the necessary friction of the machine of government, let it go, let it go: perchance it will wear smooth certainly the machine will wear out. If the injustice has a spring, or a pulley, or a rope, or a crank, exclusively for itself, then perhaps you may consider whether the remedy will not be worse than the evil; but if it is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. Let your life be a counter friction to stop the machine.” Thoreau’s moral philosophy found expression during the Nuremburg trials in which “following orders” was rejected as a defense. Indeed, military law requires disobedience to clearly illegal orders. A dark chapter in America’s World War II history would not have been written if the then United States Attorney General had resigned rather than participate in racist concentration camps imprisoning 120,000 Japanese American citizens and resident aliens. Civil disobedience to the Fugitive Slave Act and Jim Crow laws provoked the end of slavery and the modern civil rights revolution. We submit that Edward J. Snowden’s disclosures of dragnet surveillance of Americans under § 215 of the Patriot Act, § 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Amendments, or otherwise were sanctioned by Thoreau’s time-honored moral philosophy and justifications for civil disobedience. Since 2005, Mr. Snowden had been employed by the intelligence community. He found himself complicit in secret, indiscriminate spying on millions of innocent citizens contrary to the spirit if not the letter of the First and Fourth Amendments and the transparency indispensable to self-government. Members of Congress entrusted with oversight remained silent or Delphic. Mr. Snowden confronted a choice between civic duty and passivity. He may have recalled the injunction of Martin Luther King, Jr.: “He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.” Mr. Snowden chose duty. Your administration vindictively responded with a criminal complaint alleging violations of the Espionage Act. From the commencement of your administration, your secrecy of the National Security Agency’s Orwellian surveillance programs had frustrated a national conversation over their legality, necessity, or morality. That secrecy (combined with congressional nonfeasance) provoked Edward’s disclosures, which sparked a national conversation which you have belatedly and cynically embraced. Legislation has been introduced in both the House of Representatives and Senate to curtail or terminate the NSA’s programs, and the American people are being educated to the public policy choices at hand. A commanding majority now voice concerns over the dragnet surveillance of Americans that Edward exposed and you concealed. It seems mystifying to us that you are prosecuting Edward for accomplishing what you have said urgently needed to be done! The right to be left alone from government snooping–the most cherished right among civilized people—is the cornerstone of liberty. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson served as Chief Prosecutor at Nuremburg. He came to learn of the dynamics of the Third Reich that crushed a free society, and which have lessons for the United States today. Writing in Brinegar v. United States, Justice Jackson elaborated: The Fourth Amendment states: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”These, I protest, are not mere second-class rights but belong in the catalog of indispensable freedoms. Among deprivations of rights, none is so effective in cowing a population, crushing the spirit of the individual and putting terror in every heart. Uncontrolled search and seizure is one of the first and most effective weapons in the arsenal of every arbitrary government. And one need only briefly to have dwelt and worked among a people possessed of many admirable qualities but deprived of these rights to know that the human personality deteriorates and dignity and self-reliance disappear where homes, persons and possessions are subject at any hour to unheralded search and seizure by the police. We thus find your administration’s zeal to punish Mr. Snowden’s discharge of civic duty to protect democratic processes and to safeguard liberty to be unconscionable and indefensible. We are also appalled at your administration’s scorn for due process, the rule of law, fairness, and the presumption of innocence as regards Edward. On June 27, 2013, Mr. Fein wrote a letter to the Attorney General stating that Edward’s father was substantially convinced that he would return to the United States to confront the charges that have been lodged against him if three cornerstones of due process were guaranteed. The letter was not an ultimatum, but an invitation to discuss fair trial imperatives. The Attorney General has sneered at the overture with studied silence. We thus suspect your administration wishes to avoid a trial because of constitutional doubts about application of the Espionage Act in these circumstances, and obligations to disclose to the public potentially embarrassing classified information under the Classified Information Procedures Act. Your decision to force down a civilian airliner carrying Bolivian President Eva Morales in hopes of kidnapping Edward also does not inspire confidence that you are committed to providing him a fair trial. Neither does your refusal to remind the American people and prominent Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate like House Speaker John Boehner, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann,and Senator Dianne Feinstein that Edward enjoys a presumption of innocence. He should not be convicted before trial. Yet Speaker Boehner has denounced Edward as a “traitor.” Ms. Pelosi has pontificated that Edward “did violate the law in terms of releasing those documents.” Ms. Bachmann has pronounced that, “This was not the act of a patriot; this was an act of a traitor.” And Ms. Feinstein has decreed that Edward was guilty of “treason,” which is defined in Article III of the Constitution as “levying war” against the United States, “or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” You have let those quadruple affronts to due process pass unrebuked, while you have disparaged Edward as a “hacker” to cast aspersion on his motivations and talents. Have you forgotten the Supreme Court’s gospel in Berger v. United States that the interests of the government “in a criminal prosecution is not that it shall win a case, but that justice shall be done?” We also find reprehensible your administration’s Espionage Act prosecution of Edward for disclosures indistinguishable from those which routinely find their way into the public domain via your high level appointees for partisan political advantage. Classified details of your predator drone protocols, for instance, were shared with the New York Times with impunity to bolster your national security credentials. Justice Jackson observed in Railway Express Agency, Inc. v. New York: “The framers of the Constitution knew, and we should not forget today, that there is no more effective practical guaranty against arbitrary and unreasonable government than to require that the principles of law which officials would impose upon a minority must be imposed generally.” In light of the circumstances amplified above, we urge you to order the Attorney General to move to dismiss the outstanding criminal complaint against Edward, and to support legislation to remedy the NSA surveillance abuses he revealed. Such presidential directives would mark your finest constitutional and moral hour. Sincerely, Bruce Fein Counsel for Lon Snowden Lon Snowden Bruce Fein & Associates, Inc. 722 12th Street, N.W., 4th Floor Washington, D.C. 20005 Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/Snowdens_Dad_SCHOOLS_Obama_Pelosi_and_Holder_in_Op en_Letter/91688#ixzz2aaEsX6rR[/IMG]
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"Corrupt the young, get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby: Get the peoples' mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. Destroy the peoples faith in their natural leaders by holding up the latter to ridicule, contempt and obloquy. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of government towards such disorders. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless." - [I]Vladimir Ilich Lenin, First Supreme Commissar U.S.S.R (from his plan for bringing down a free nation, as found in his “April Theses” directives)
National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.

Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.

In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system. Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty.[10]
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From 1845-50, The British government pursued a policy of mass starvation in Ireland
with the intent to destroy in substantial part the national, ethnical and racial group known as the Irish People...
While there are many legitimate subjects of debate surrounding the Famine,
there is no doubt that the British Government committed genocide against the Irish People.
This particular “debate” should therefore come to an end.

The Great Irish Famine Was Genocide | Global Research

On 27 April 2010, a draft Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe resolution declared
the famine was caused by the "cruel and deliberate actions and policies of the Soviet regime" and was responsible for the deaths of
"millions of innocent people" in Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Moldova and Russia.[106] Even though PACE found Stalin guilty of causing the famine, they rejected several amendments to the resolution, which proposed the Holodomor be recognized as an act of genocide against the Ukrainian people.
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Thanks for posting this letter, written by Bruce Fein. Everything he says is right on the mark. Barry, Eric, and their cohorts are the ones who should be prosecuted for treason, not Edward Snowden.
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The Indebted States of America

We often talk about the national budget deficit, and national debt, which are both horrendous, but state budgets and debt problems are every bit as bad. Here's a link to a very informative article which is well worth reading to understand what's been going on, and why it has been allowed to continue.
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We often talk about the national budget deficit, and national debt, which are both horrendous, but state budgets and debt problems are every bit as bad. Here's a link to a very informative article which is well worth reading to understand what's been going on, and why it has been allowed to continue.
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Wow I was parked in this thread this morning and I was going to make a post on the Edward Snowden situation. I read an article yesterday about his asylum and then spent a good half hour reading all the comments.

Seems many people posting can now tell who the paid trolls are who were posting that Snowden was a traitor or how good congress or the government were and how they needed to catch the guy and hang him. several people trying to sway public perception on the side of the government and yet making comments about how sometimes the constitution is not needed in matters of national security.

I cannot believe there are that many stupid people but nothing surprises me anymore and if they do think its ok for the government to lie and spy on its people and ignore the constitution then they deserve the government they currently have.

The government just sentenced a sovereign resitant leader to 18 years in prison for telling and teaching people how to (as the government put it" "defraud the IRS and the US government. Funny thing was the guy was doing the same thing the US government does to the people and using the same tricks they were using yet what happens to the government? nothing

The real crooks are in DC and their days are short and they know it, this is why such people like Snowden and this sovereign guy have to made examples of so others will have second thoughts to standing up for whats right.

Obama is a Joke and it has nothing to do with me hating him, it has EVERYTHING to do with his lies and lack of real leadership. He promised Gitmo would be closed in 100 days of taking office and here in his second term they haven't closed it but are expanding it. Obama promised the most transparent Administration yet it is now on record his administration is the most secretive and deceptive in all of history. These are just two of the many hundreds of examples of lies out of his own mouth yet when anyone mentions these things or talks negative about Obama for any reason are castrated as a racial hater.

its totally messed up!

Snowden should be a hero and treated as one. I know he would be welcomed to my apartment any time and I would treat him like he was family.
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Burn Your Obamacare Card

BURN YOUR OBAMACARE CARD

There are a million reasons to burn your ObamaCare card, whether it’s the sky-high costs or your right to choose your own health care. We’re asking Patriots across the country to pledge to burn their ObamaCare card and opt-out right now.



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I like it, Glen! They can't arrest anyone for burning a faked registration card, but it does send Washington a loud and clear message. They already know that roughly 70% of Americans don't like Obamacare and want it defunded. The House has had the power to do that since the 2010 elections, since the House holds the power of the purse strings on all funding matters, and that should have been their first and highest priority, but no - they sat on their arses and did nothing except vote thirty some times to repeal Obamacare, a tactic they knew would go nowhere because the Senate would not go along with them and neither would Barry. Defunding is the only logical answer, and a bill (HR 1005) was introduced by Georgia Republican Tom Graves to do just that. The bill has already gained at least 117 cosponsors, and yet House speaker Boehner is totally non-commital when it comes to a defunding effort. The plan behind HR 1005 is to strip funding for Obamacare out of the next Continuing Resolution to fund government. Democrats would have to either accept that or be responsible for shutting down government for a period of time. Of course Barry, Harry, and other Democrats, as well as the media, would do everything they can to shift the blame for a government shutdown onto the Republican party, so that's why Boehner and other establishment Republicans won't commit to the plan. Boehner should realize that the only reason he is speaker of the House is that the TEA Party made it possible for Republicans to gain a House majority in the 2010 elections, and yet Boehner and other party leaders continue to put down and bash the TEA Party caucus at every opportunity that arises, choosing instead to play along with the Progressives and cave to their every demand.
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Just a short note;
"The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is contacting storable food suppliers requesting immediate delivery of food reserves within a 24 hour period, increasing suspicions that the federal government is accelerating its preparations for social disorder or an environmental calamity."
» FEMA Demanding 24 Hour Delivery of Emergency Food Reserves Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
Japanese American Internment (U.S. Govt Propaganda) - YouTube

Two questions, intended to separate the "loyal" from the "disloyal," most disturbed the internees:
-Question #27 asked:
"Are you willing to serve in the armed forces of the United States on combat duty wherever ordered?"
-Question #28 asked:
"Will you swear unqualified allegiance to the United States of America and faithfully defend the United States from any or all attack by foreign or domestic forces, and forswear any form of allegiance or obedience to the Japanese emperor, or any other foreign government, power, or organization?"

WRA Director, Dillon S. Myer, later admitted: "A bad mistake was made in the loyalty question." For one thing, question #27 put to the Issei (first-generation Japanese immigrant), whose average age was 54, was not conceivable, while question #28 forced them into an untenable position: they had not been allowed U.S. citizenship, and now they were being asked to renounce allegiance to the only country of which they were citizens.
Questions of Loyalty > The Camps Experience

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Old 08-07-2013, 04:34 PM
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Some posters for you........compliments of the TEA Party





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The Federal Reserve strategy, quite obviously, has been to create an ever growing cycle of unrepayable US debt. .....
Section 4 of the 14th Amendment to our Constitution declares that
"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law,...... shall not be questioned."

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They already know that roughly 70% of Americans don't like Obamacare and want it defunded. The House has had the power to do that since the 2010 elections, since the House holds the power of the purse strings on all funding matters, and that should have been their first and highest priority, but no - they sat on their arses and did nothing except vote thirty some times to repeal Obamacare, a tactic they knew would go nowhere because the Senate would not go along with them and neither would Barry. .


This is what the American people get, an ineffective government that wastes time and tax payers money. The entire government is freaken joke!
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The US $50 Dollar bill




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In 1966: WILL PAY TO THE BEARER ON DEMAND was removed from the obverse and IN GOD WE TRUST was added to the reverse of the $50 Federal Reserve Note beginning with Series 1963A.
Translation = This means if the dollar crashes you better have trust that God will help you because you sure as heck won’t get squat if you demand payment from the criminal organization referred to as the Federal Reserve or its partner in crime the US government.


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When the mainstream media went big time on gun control advocacy after the Newtown incident, they seemed to want to outdo each other with daily stories of shootings and other editorial pieces. Many online news agencies followed right along, including several Gannet news publications. Caryn McBride, an editor at New York's Rockland County Journal News decided to post an interactive map pinpointing the locations of homes in Rockland and Westchester Counties that were the addresses of registered gun owners. This map was included in a Journal article titled, “Where are the gun permits in your neighborhood?”



The gun owners were rightly furious over this, as it could be used by thieves wanting to locate and steal firearms. In fact, shortly after the map was published, one of the homes was broken into and a gun safe was damaged in an attempted theft. Even non-gunowners were angry at McBride, because they understood that since their homes were not pinpointed they would be recognized by would-be burglars and rapists as safe havens for them to carry out their activities.

In response to the map being made available online, someone got the bright idea to create a map showing the locations of McBride and other news staffers' homes, and declaring them as "gun-free zones." This map was posted on the Internet in a story titled, “Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?” This alarmed McBride, and other Journal employees, who then felt threatened enough to demand that the Journal hire armed security guards to protect them. Later, McBride and several other staffers at the Journal were fired due to the backlash of angry letters and phone calls that followed after the Journal's news story.

Over and over again we have seen the hypocrisy of gun control advocates who want to see everyone else's guns taken away, but who either arm themselves or hire armed guards for protection of themselves and their families. A good example of this hypocrisy is CNN's Piers Morgan, who has relentlessly aired dozens of shows in which he calls for total gun control and abolishment of Second Amendment rights. And yet Piers obviously realizes that guns can provide safety and security when used properly, and posts a sign on one of his Hollywood properties to warn that the property is protected by "armed response security systems."

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This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

this was in his letter to his customers. Here is the article and the letter

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An encrypted e-mail service reportedly used by Edward Snowden is shutting down, presumably in response to an investigation of the NSA whistleblower's use of the service.

Ladar Levison, the owner of Lavabit, announced the move Thursday in a note posted to the service's home page. Although Levinson's cryptic note doesn't mention Snowden by name, he does say that he's "been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly 10 years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit."
Encrypted e-mail service linked to Edward Snowden shuts down | Politics and Law - CNET News

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As more and more businesses realize they are better off doing business outside of the USA the USA will continue on the its path until every city looks like Detroit.

Laws, taxes, regulations, and an ever overreaching oppressive government are all factors in businesses seeking out better places to do business. The fact this business owner cannot even by NEW laws discuss why he has no rights to discuss whats going on should be a HUGE red flag to everyone but again and over and over the red flags are being raised and nothing is done to stop the government from its criminal activity.

This is why the American economy will NOT ever fully recover and anyone who thinks it will even long term without it first totally collapsing is kidding themselves.
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