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Old 03-18-2013, 12:36 AM
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trying to make it work

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Yes what a ghastly colour! I have no idea about capacitance values and their calculation. However I would be interested in any answers to my original questions.
  1. Has anyone made a hendershot generator work?
  2. Is anyone willing to show any evidence that they have tried these plans?
  3. Why the red paper over the capacitors?
  4. What methods have been tried to kickstart the process in a Hendershot generator?
There are lots of folks trying to make it work... .
There are several mysteries to solve.
This invention was not fully documented. Hendershot kept some
of the details to himself. So folks are trying to reverse engineer
the thing with incomplete knowledge.
I wouldn't waste my time on the scam-plans since they don't match the
schematic and design documented in the 50s, 60s and 70s that
Hendershot had done, which has
several different features -- hand-wound capacitors -- special horse-shoe
magnet with center pole, certain materials used, unknown schematic
diagram (there are several proposed circuits in the Barry Hilton book),
different values for the AC capacitors, and so forth.

Kick starting would not be an issue... having the correct design
that offers positive feedback oscillation would be the issue.
Non-linear systems are very complex. The circuit diagram does not
lend itself to EASY circuit analysis due to the complexities of
various mutual induction opportunities, and magnetic resonance,
and unknown values for inductance in the circuit, etc.

One "opinion" about Moray's device and how it become no longer easy
to do after the 20s and 30s and 40s is that less and less radio operators
were using SPARK-GAP transmitters, and hence less power was being
transmitted around the continental United States. If that was also
something Hendershot's device was taping, or perhaps it was the
experimental radar transmissions of the time... then succeeding in
receiving such power may be more difficult.

I tried an interesting experiment this weekend. I took the little
dual-pole solenoid thing I made -- 100 feet (each) of AWG 30
wrapped around small STEEL bolts, and counter wound... wired
to a STEREO jack. Using a hand-held cassette recorder as an
amplifier, I walked around my house using this "magnetic-microphone"
and find source of EMF in my house.
Walking up to any SWITCH or any wall with wires behind them,
I can clearly hear the crackling energy in the walls. In my living
room, there was a certain SPOT where I could distinctly hear
a PULSING 1 hertz tone. Is this the 1Hertz tone power companies
send along the power lines for "clocks"?
The 1 Hertz pulse tone was also easily picked up near my breaker box.
Walking over to my microwave oven -- even though it was off --
produce a HUGE noise in my headset -- mostly from the circuitry
related to driving the LCD display. Down near my dishwasher,
even though it was off as well and had no display being driven at the
time, produced HUGE magnetic disturbance to the solenoids.
Next, walking over to my oven, again HUGE noise from the LCD
display....
The large living room is pretty silent, except for the spot on the floor,
which I speculate has a HUB of wiring. Aim the microphone at various
walls, however, and there is definite pick up from the house wiring.

So, bottom line, when building a device that uses inductive "pick up",
if your in your house, and you move this near your home wiring,
you will pick up power directly from the walls. Its not free energy,
however, since your meter will indeed run as power is drawn
from the wires.

A real test of such a device is to bring it outside, far away from
any source of EMF ... and see if it can pick up energy from
the ambient surroundings.
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Things seem to have come to stand still eh

Just a burst of ideas for a while

I have to go work for a couple of months

Just had 5 months off thats always good
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Can you explain this image from the Russian site you linked?



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Can you explain this image from the Russian site you linked?



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This picture is from a book of prof.Nikolayev and tells us that there is (founded by Nikolayev) so-called longitudinal electromagnetic field in addition to all-known transverse EMF.
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This is about Hendershot
related to Discovery of secret of his device.
Revolution has begun Free Energy Exposed part3

Revolution has begun Free Energy Exposed part3 - YouTube

look also at part 1 and part 2 of the video before you express your critics.

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Ok I've been away working the last 2 and a half months

What's the latest progress??
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full plans and schematics available from link on video
Hendershot Generator - Free Energy tutorial - YouTube
haven't built or tried it myself however if you read through the comments it seems Henderson's boy joins in ... I hope it legit
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full plans and schematics available from link on video
Hendershot Generator - Free Energy tutorial - YouTube
haven't built or tried it myself however if you read through the comments it seems Henderson's boy joins in ... I hope it legit
best wishes Duncan
That's fake, initialy asked for money as well..
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That's fake, initialy asked for money as well..
It seems extraordinary to make a 2.5 hour video if its fake, guess either it does work or the profit of suckers make it worth while.
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hello folks..

to me what i understand is from the book by carter..
about orgone.. the life force you get when you breath deep..

now to change this to power you need to build a coil that can flip the magnet field and twist it too!...like a rubber band... that this idea..

eight(plus)iron rods.
sheet iron really thin((0.009)
pvc pipe
iron filing
oil
magnet wire(**** loads)


first pvc rap a iron rod and rap with iron sheet then rap with manget wire with a gap for iron filings and oil between the magnetwire tturns...

now pvc rap the the whole thing and sheet iron magnet wire ect.
and repeat until maybe one third of the lenght to wight....

All the magnet wire on each rap is not connect to the next rap... here the magnet field is twisted by a 50hz pulse of dc...
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on the outsides put the other iron rods with one long magnet wire going around the all to be the out put



im sorry about the crap xplonation.texting on a shtty phone...

if anyone understand what im saying ill be amazed...LOL

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Calculations of the coils for the Hendershot generators

1) The Spectrum of working frequencies - what it should be actually? These frequencies whence undertake? What kind of their parity?

2) Why in all variations of the Hendershot converters the basket coils have very small number of the turns (only 12 (or 24) and 64 turns) whereas it supposed, what on the ends of these coils should be enough big the difference of potentials (nearby 60-120 and more Volts)?
What is reason for occurrence of such the big difference of potentials?

3) Why diameters (to be exact - average length of a circle) greater and small the basket coils for the Hendershot converters are strictly fixed? Why their attitude is equal 2:1? How this diameters was calculated?

4) Why in the Hendershot's basket coils the quantity of the staked equally spased should be expressed by the number which is not having dividers, that is enough greater simple number? (57 - staked equally spased for the big Hendershot's basket coils, and 29 - for small)?

5) That represents "The Hand wound Hendershot capacitor" together with the resonant coil, connected to it?
Whether it is possible to calculate somehow this "artful" resonant system?
How it to adjust?

6) And ...

My answers to the majority of the put questions are published on the Russian site 'Realstrannik.ru' on a special branch "Hendershot Fuelless Generator".
Reading can be begun with my first message

Forum strangers :: Topic: Hendershot Fuelless Generator (3/18) ,

and further up to the end.

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P.S. The English Programm for calculation parameters of the EH - Atenna systems is on Google
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Latest developments?

Hello all, I've been reading this whole thread and most of the Hendershot documentation.

Coming to the end of this thread it suddenly silences..., and frankly it's not what I expected, really! Much like an anti-climax...

I must say I have become very interested in building one for testing purposes and to start adding my experiences here and elsewhere, so if anyone can comment on the current status?

Are you guys still working on it?
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Hello to All

Hello to All,

A friend sent me a pdf that explains (along with a video that I will eventually get)...How to make a Hendershot Generator.

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And the Final Pic...

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I don't know if anyone of You have read Vladimir Utkin Free Energy on some Nikola Tesla's Inventions and Developments...An Excellent analysis...But, there is a part called "The Asymmetric Capacitor"...

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HOW DO WE GET THIS RESULT?
AN ANSWER

You need to charge the capacitor using the electric component of the electromagnetic field of the inductor (using the displacement current of Maxwells equations)...Or:

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EXPLANATION
When the electric field in capacitor C is decaying, due to feeding electrical current into an inductor (not shown), the external electric field generated by the inductor tries to charge this capacitor with the inductors displacement current. As a result, the capacitor draws energy in from the surrounding electromagnetic field, and the capacitors voltage rises cycle by cycle.
IMPLEMENTATION A a central capacitor is used:

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Later on He goes into the "Triggering" (Kicking) Coil and so on...


However, in the Diagram above the Inductor (Coil) is within the Capacitor Geometry...But...Who says we can not do Geometry the other way around?...or like Hendershot's Arrangement...where Coils are surrounding Capacitors?...Plus, Hendershot uses other external to coil Caps...

The Basic and Elemental point here...to me...is based on exactly the same principle.

Capacitor creates an Electric Field once it is charged...while Inductor generates a Magnetic Field once it is energized.

Both Fields are of different Natures...However...both Complement each others...meaning, when there is either one...there is also the other one present within both components...but (and here comes the interesting side)...

A Capacitor creates a very tiny magnetic field once its Higher Electric Field is activated.

An Inductor generates a High Magnetic Field...while its Electric Field is weaker as also its Capacitance is very limited.

One is Static...while the Other one is Dynamic...

I believe (And I will be constructing this Hendershot Generator, as I will be uploading video and pdf for others to replicate it) ...I believe...that Both Fields, once WITHIN CERTAIN GEOMETRY...compliment each others in a "bouncing like" Dance...where there is Gain instead of decay...


This is just my brief analysis...


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Hello all, I've been reading this whole thread and most of the Hendershot documentation.

Coming to the end of this thread it suddenly silences..., and frankly it's not what I expected, really! Much like an anti-climax...

I must say I have become very interested in building one for testing purposes and to start adding my experiences here and elsewhere, so if anyone can comment on the current status?

Are you guys still working on it?
Hello pjotterkjen!


I have been looking for this thread!...and got with a second one about Hendershot also...however, it was this one I was searching for.


Thanks!


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Self Ticking Buzzer?

If that is the case that the buzzer is self ticking and moving because of the magnet and producing even a little power, I believe Hendershot Generator is actually working this set up is the same with the Tesla' circuit i tested to prove that amplifying resonance is true every make and break it is indeed. It is a matter of Parallel then Series combination of wiring.Actually this is a combination of Parallel Resonance and Series Resonance in every make and break. Amplifying the energy stored in the capacitor which is always connected to the primary, The two capacitor act as a buffer or the storage of source of power, If it is true that the buzzer is ticking 500hz it is indeed can light that many bulb. Its just a simple controlled amplifying resonance so long invented by Tesla.

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I have been looking for this thread!...and got with a second one about Hendershot also...however, it was this one I was searching for.


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Old 09-18-2013, 12:51 AM
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Hendershot circuit considerations

I'd like to refer once again to the work that has been done by the German Overunity forum by user Fuchs and others:

HENDERSHOT GENERATOR - Neue Erkenntnisse, Theorie über die Funktionsweise

In my opinion, Fuchs has done a great job of redrawing the mentioned circuit (he considered the most advanced one) into a much simpler to read one. I refer to the circuit drawn on page 14.

My idea is to review and extend this redrawing to include the document 'The Hendershot Mystery' (the big one of 140 pages) that list practically all different schema's that are relevant to the generator, and then compare them to see if the changes done over time are logical ones.

All is done with focus on the oscillation phenomena of two oscillating LC tank circuits where the buzzer defines the oscillation frequency but where the two LC tanks define the frequency where oscillation is actually amplified (a frequency much higher), and not damped. The energy transfers to each side through the two ordinary transformers which limit the amplification and also work only well for low frequency.

Maybe the findings could well show some trends, but otherwise it may well show the fact that different circuits should function once this amplification and transfer of energy from one side to another has been achieved.

I am convinced that the circuit should work and that it is actually in its simplest form a a-stable multivibrator, which has been confirmed on the German forum also. We only need to fiddle around with the thing long enough to start seeing some results.

A hint to the ones that are currently testing their Hendershot generators, try to match as much as possible the original specifications and be sure to match the two LC circuits. This is of great importance, as is a very high Q factor

I am quite convinced that Hendershot used a wire to shortcut several connections to start oscillation and used G-type clamps to adjust the capacitance of his hand-made LC tank circuits. The buzzer is in itself a frequency dependent load, as well as the light bulb, although both have specific characteristics.

I searched on WikiPedia for LC circuits and found this:
"One of the first demonstrations of resonance between tuned circuits was Lodge's "syntonic jars" experiment around 1889.[1][3] He placed two resonant circuits next to each other, each consisting of a Leyden jar connected to an adjustable one-turn coil with a spark gap. When a high voltage from an induction coil was applied to one tuned circuit, creating sparks and thus oscillating currents, sparks were excited in the other tuned circuit only when the circuits were adjusted to resonance. Lodge and some English scientists preferred the term "syntony" for this effect, but the term "resonance" eventually stuck.[1] The first practical use for LC circuits was in the 1890s in spark-gap radio transmitters to allow the receiver and transmitter to be tuned to the same frequency."
I think we should try first to replicate Oliver Lodge's experiment which seems to me Hendershot used in his aparatus (and then he managed to control the phenomena adding additional components, to prevent escalating oscillations; I also suspect he added them to confuse everybody else).

Many thanks to the ones that brought the thread until today and I hope you guys will continue to deliver interesting stuff.
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I have been looking for this thread!...and got with a second one about Hendershot also...however, it was this one I was searching for.


Thanks!


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Hello Ufopolitics, it has been mentioned that what is shown in the pictures is a HOAX, in other words a fake. I don't think you can just build the thing and get the promised results. I think this because first there are too many light bulbs connected, the load would burn out wire very quickly, second there has not been a fine-tuning of the two LC tanks which is of great importance for the apparatus to start oscillating at all and lastly the length of the video may well just be a trick to make people believe it must be worth something - as many youtube videos are very very short and lack all sorts of information.

That said, you're making interesting notes about a possible similarity with the Tesla LC circuit that exposes a gain instead of a decay when properly constructed. There may be a greater similarity as actually in both cases the capacitor lives inside the magnetic field that the coil creates.

Are you planning a specific test on this or are you going ahead and build the Hendershot device? If so please refer to the original schemas and instructions and do not think it is just an easy job as the video promises. Building is the first part and just a start, then comes the difficult part which is fine-tuning the various components. You can forget about fine-tuning if using the standard capacitors which actually are packed in a rare color in the video so you cannot identify them. Its definitely a HOAX and not very likely at all to generate that much power as is shown.
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Fuchs's simplified schema

I found today that Fuchs (a user on the German overunity forum) publication of a simplified schema is correctly done and represents the schema that Ed Skilling had drawn when he examined the Hendershot Generator from the inventor himself. Fuchs also provides an explanation of how the circuit could behave when actually set in oscillation.

The schema below is very readable. The document Fuchs published was in German language and I happen to be reasonably able to read it and so will be examining the document to see if I can make some sort of pilot test out of it.

The main question is what Hendershot first discovered, that is, which part of the schema was first developed by him?

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UFO I have been thinking of a similar design. I was thinking of winding the coil from the top plate up like you have but continuing out and then back down along the field lines in the above pic but still perpendicular. What I visualize is a coil like a ping pong ball but it has a funnel at the top and bottom whos points are at the center of the coil and it has two halves. I had thought of winding it so N and S poles were in the center. I had also wondered of using the starting end of the wind in the center to end up connecting to the bottom outside end of the wind.

I hope that it clear as mud?! Im terrible with drawing pictures.
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Paraffin wax and electrets

We know that Hendershot used paraffin in his 'capcoils' most likely to fix the position and after that to be able to tune capacity (not inductance) with the G-like clamps and thereby tuning the resonance frequency of the total component.

There have been speculations that this paraffin could have been used because it can have special electrostatic effects. The phenomena that can be archieved under some specific circumstances is called 'electret' where the dielectric material is left with a specific stress and thus when placed in between two plates generates a constant voltage.

"Electrets are prepared from pure parraffin wax by irradiation with β-rays followed by formation in a constant electric field. The charge of the electrets is measured by means of the inductive method and with Faraday cylinder. The dependence of the electret charge on intensity of forming field, forming time, irradiation time, and storage time after irradiation, and the permanence of the charge, are investigated. Electrets prepared in this way have charges of the same order of magnitude as thermic electrets made from carnauba wax and formed in similar forming fields."

Now could Hendershot - maybe even without knowing - having used paraffin and where this electret effect has been helping to trigger his 'capcoils'? Or did he know the secret very well and kept it for himself, knowing it was one of the key factors to start the generator?

This is an interesting thought and of course, the wax that he put in between the capacitor and the coils had to be liquid. If only an external field be applied during the hardening of the paraffin, the permanent stress can be created. The only absent ingredient is the irradiation with β-rays, or maybe the paraffin contained some special ingredient at that time that only Hendershot knew of - radium maybe?

So apart from having two identical capcoils and the tuning process afterwards, in my opinion the paraffin should receive special attention and is a very important step to give the generator some initial potential to start oscillate and actually amplify the energy that flows to either 'capcoil'.
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Hello Morpher44,
Have only just found your Forum and thankyou for beginning an information source on Lester Hendershot.
Have a unit built to the Mark Hendershot 'Archive' schematic which I have noted as having a problem as it is unbalanced.
Currently have the Arthur Aho circuit built but results have been negative.

I built an Inverter using a multivibrator using a split-reed V6804 (4 volts) and replaced all of the Magnet/Iron bar/bell ringer coils and this was activated into the 'Archive' circuit with some interesting results.
I was in the middle of removing the existing transformers when an arc developed which when measured, registered some 11,000 volts!
Picture of the arc at site below.
There is absolutely nothing in the circuit (EM wise) that could transform this 4 volts into that figure as I measured some 80 v ac at the output of the Inverter and my transformers are 6.7:1 (ex Blaupunkt TV 'commutation coils').
So there is some phenomena occuring within the series of coils that is amplifying this voltage and could be basketweave related as this is in the unknown area of the Caduceus/Mobius coil.
Believe this to be a plasma event as the transfer can be activated without any arcing whatsoever.
There is more information and pictures here but is open only to those that are actually building the Hendershot device and you will be required to register to join:

Yahoo! Groups

Those of you who show interest in this device but not building, will be able to see all the information here on this Forum as I transfer the detail across.
I am currently going through your detail and finding out what matters and what doesn't and you are doing OK at this point but collectively we might be able to pull this one off.

Notes of interest are that the twin coils used are out of bell ringer wall telephone circuits and measure 500 ohms each and you can also find these on Fire & School Bell alarm systems.
You were way down on this figure and need to go much higher and a good indication is to wave a magnet along the length of the coil to see the voltage being induced (more on this).
The two I have here are from Ericsson and Westinghouse, both Wall Telephones.

The home-made capacitor detail is also there and it is a requirement to wash the electrolyte off the aluminium plates else you get a capacity something close to the original you dismantled.
Mine were 1,000uF 450v Ducon (Australia) and without washing still measured 800 uF.
This is NOT a capacitor any longer but 'something' else and was called an 'aerial' and this may equate to the EH antenna or Fractal antenna.
This is very close to your UHF TV antenna, two receiver arms with a reflector behind but wound into a helical pattern.
Draw this out on paper with the dimensions given and see the result, quite interesting and probably an Aether receiver (vertical/helical) and similar to the muscle arrangement around your Heart.
Both my caps are at 7,800 pF and using paddlepop wooden sticks to maintain this value and works well.
The paraffin is there to solidify the caps as they are floppy in build and don't believe they have any other purpose than to keep the capacity from drifting.
The Carbon/Graphite might come later as an amplifying medium.

The Video/Book is a scam, I built that version and knew, as I gained further information, that it was not going to work as the home-made cap was not even considered.
This is the 'heart' of this device and my belief is that what Lester built here is the same organisation as your Heart that keeps you alive and is using the same Aetheric/Cosmic energy used to maintain the heartbeat.
I call this the 'Heartbeat Machine'.

Frequency (EM) calculated for L4 Copper and L3 Copper is the same as you at 200 khz but with a sig gen attached, comes down to somewhere around Earth Resonance at 148 Khz.

I have Leds attached to the terminals of the non-polarised capacitors and these are working from both directions meaning that electrolytics are out and what we have is a swinging voltage throughout the system that is working from two directions - a see saw/heartbeat/swing/push-pull, call it what you will.

Non polarised caps from Hong Kong at reasonable prices, Ebay.

Will put up some pictures of what is relevant and these will be full size on the Forum page.
Keep up the good work and back shortly with some pics.

I have been working with Eric Dollard and his 'Crystal Radio/Set Initiative' and his 'Cosmic Ray Detector' and some other Vacuum Tube projects (which all worked) but have had to put that aside for the Hendershot project.

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Hi Smokey, great post, having read the whole thread I have the impression you're probably the only one that actually has built one specific version of the Hendershot device, and I'm very curious for your results sofar.

You mention you have built the device that Arthur Aho built just before Hendershot died. The diagram that Edward O'Brian afterwars produced while at his home contains a shortcut at the right 'capcoil'. I wonder what correction did you make in your replication?

Furthermore you mention both your 'capcoils' are at 7,800 pF, while most drawings mention a value of 7,800 nF. Or is that just a typo?

Finally, what method did you use to match resonance of both 'capcoils'? I mean it is great to have both capacitor parts at exactly the same value, but the point here is to exactly match the resonant frequency of the whole component. So my question is how did you measure and tune the resonant frequency of each 'capcoil' - in-circuit?
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:29 PM
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A possible way forward...

Hi Guys,

I've been reading stuff about this generator for a while and I'm slowly acquiring parts for my own build.

There are a few points I've noticed:

1) Hendershot mentions that the first prototype cut lines of earth magnetic flux;

2) The generator could only work when line line with the earths mag field.

3) He managed to overcome the direction issue, and we have rough drawings of how he claimed to do it.

4) there are 2 halves of a circuit that have to work with each other to generate power, though a common load, a bit like a 12v->240vac inverter transmformer.

5) there is also the clapper circuit.

6) large external caps

7) 2 hand made cap

8) some images of the generator have the external 5:1 transformers on the inside of the hand made caps.

I suspect that the clapper is used as a base oscillator, used to energise the transformers, then that causes a mag field to rise and fall on the basket coils.
By creating you own source of mag field, you can make the device independent of the Earth's mag field.

There may be something else going on with the hand made caps as they have 3 plates not the 2 in the schematics and there is a individual out on the web that has seen an unsual effect with electrolytic caps where the case of the capacitor can generate a potential too. look for Captret, or Electrolytic capacitor and Electret. I don't have the link to hand.

So the first question is, has anyone got the clapper working in isolation yet?

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Hi Thunderbolt, can you elaborate a bit more on the captret you mention? The hand-made capacitor indeed has three plates but only two are connected and nothing is actually connected to the third plate which actually separates the other two and is electrically floating. So how do you see this idea?

I think Morpher44 could answer your Q about the clapper.

My idea is that the clapper is part of the circuit so Hendershot would have a means to hear if the circuit would come alive, the same as he used a lamp for visual indication, and a simple voltmeter to measure small voltages (leaving in the middle as to where it was connected). As well as being a frequency throttle, together with the two transformers, which define the frequency of the a-stable multivibrator which the Hendershot device is very similar to.

Looking forward to your reaction.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:13 PM
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Hi pjotterkjen,

Here's a Captret link
Le projet CAPTRET "CAPacitor elecTRET"

The website seems to be maintained by someone with a good level of hands-on experience and scientific discipline, so I tend to take note of his work.

Check on some of the overunity.com post too.

I suspect that the non-connected plate holds a charge of some sort that helps to orientate charge movement => current, esp with respect to the basket coils.

From other areas of research, I've notice that a lot of other guys around the same time as hendershot were discovering alt sources of energy too such as

1) Cohler - used a combination of 6 bar magnets with coils that had to be moved into oscilation.

2) Hendershot - expanded on the idea of a flux gate magnetometer. Just a glorified pair of coils at 90' to each other and using the earth mag field to stimuate them. Then built his basket coild system to overcome the direction problem.

3)Tesla - built some sort of converter for his car, that needed 2 iron rods to be pushed into place to get it going. They could have been rod magnets who knows?

Obviously, without hard evidence, it's all speculation. but all 3 individual were subject to public and govenrment scrutiny with demonstratable results. So there may be some connection between them.

Now let's take things on a slightly different slant looking at larger natural magnets. Planetary magnetics.

If we look at Saturn and Uranus, they have rings of stuff around the equator. The locations would be the regions where mag flux rope are bending back from north->south, OR if you agree that the north and south poles are the origins of the flux at their strongest , then the equator is where they meet at their weakest strength. Now could charge be liberated at that region?

Atmospheric studies of the Van Allen belts suggest that at certain regions of the atmosphere contain positively charged particles and other regions contain negatively charged particles..

Piecing this together may suggest that around a bar magnet the may be electrically charged zones that have to be kicked into motion to generate current.

Going back to hendershots generator, there are 3 main things going on.
1) Local oscilation
2) Field generation
3) Flux cutting/collapse.

Once the main magnetic clapper kicks in, the oscilation starts.
The oscilation sets up a field in the 5:1 transformers.
A static currnet 'may' be setup similar to the charged rings around some planets (mentioned above)
The field induces rotation on the ring current in the previous step.
Since the current would move in a constant circular path, and not oscilate directly, a weave pattern is superimposed on most of the windings.
The last coil,L4 I think, is then woven in the bog standard manner to derive its' power from the rest of the the device when the filed collapses on the transformer.

ATM, this is largely speculation based on what I've read and what experience I have of electromagnetics.

Experimentation and hard work will seperate facts from fiction.
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I think the different parts of the generator need to be built and their behaviour tested and understood before they are assembled to see what needs to be done to get them to work together .
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I mean to say built in isolation.
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Hi

I would like to share some findings from experiments what happens with capacitor and coil physicaly being and connected to each other.
In resonant frequency they have few effects:
1) This type of LC circuit has bright own frequency and goes on its oscillations no matter what input frequency is.
2) When resonant harmonics/frequency is hit the voltage potentials can quickly go to kilovolts range in free LC of this type.
3) When there are current coils making standing waves in right angles to capacitor inside these effects are amplified to very high levels.

The rest of circuit in Hendershot case seems to be LC series resonance so two things most likely follow what was observed in different experiments:
1) When you have high potential electric field and high current making magnetic field on 90 degrees the NMR conditions are met.
2) The free electrons are needed to amplify output so first case most likely was making them available on wire due nature of nuclear reaction beginning stage (obviously you don't want allow to develop it to the end so no transmutation of wire) when electrons are taken out from atoms with large amount of positrons (please see N. Tesla work on this)

Obviously all this stuff comes from my NMR research just I see it fit for Hendershot case after series of experiments was done.

Cheers!
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It maybe not the correct place to ask , but I cannot find that information.... vacuum tubes heater were build as noninductive coil to avoid inrush current. Can you point me to the link describing how that was done (the shape of coil or method of winding) ?
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