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Old 10-28-2009, 02:17 AM
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Magnetic fields are spongy because they aren't confined inside a wire.

@eternalightwithin: Rats, I read it somewhere now I can't find it. I thought it was on this page => Floyd Sweet. <> No, he didn't vaporize his house with his wife in it. It just said she was ill in the bedroom laying down when he turned his vacuum triode amplifier on and a brilliant light flashed so bright she could see it. And she said to him "What have you blown up now?" Everybody including his employers got used to things blowing up it seems but they knew he was a genius so it was OK.

@Aromaz: "a matter of resonance. Tesla with his 'vibrator' Floyd with resonating magnets." Yeah, well, one man made it happen and the other made a receiver to obtain it from somewhere else, which just makes us all look doubly ignorant that we don't have it. We shouldn't be watching Lost in Space in theatres, we should be out there already lost in space for ourselves riding around in our automobiles powered by this everywhere energy, and having the time of our lives instead of being all jammed together like sheep.

I liked reading about Floyd, and listening to his voice in the 1987 video. It seems that what he did must have been rather simple. A magnet is surrounded by its magnetic field and is right stable, so he pushed on it undoubtedly with a like pole. He pushed it and then dropped the current, collapsing his field quick, which the magnet's field then sprang back, except it must have over-corrected and come back a little extra, and then bounced again. Jesus, I'm not the man to fix this but it doesn't seem anything near being rocket science. Magnetic fields are spongy because they aren't confined inside a wire. How difficult a concept can this be to recreate?!
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:46 AM
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Were they geniuses or just exceptionally practical thinkers that everybody called gen

I'm a newcomer. Sometimes that gives me an advantage; many times a disadvantage too. I'm not Bill Nye the Science Guy either and don't imagine I ever could be. But if you have one magnet sitting stationary and had another magnet on a wheel, and set that wheel to spinning at 60 revs so that it passed through into & out of the stationary secured magnets magnetic field, wouldn't that produce a regular oscillation? So then he put a coil there somewhere, maybe it was big or maybe it was small, but he had it lined up so that the field bouncing back & forth was inducing a current, right? I don't know this stuff like I would like but if I knew it like my teacher Bob Steinmetz at ECPI I'd knock this thing in the chops and keep on gettin' up.

These two men, Sweet and Tesla, were they "geniuses" or were they just exceptionally practical thinkers that everybody calls a genius? If we call them geniuses it makes their achievements seem unreachably high, out of the reach of us ordinary mortals. I think they were exceedingly practical & focused because they lived in a different time, and while their achievements were great they are reproduceable and extremely within our reach.
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Old 10-28-2009, 03:24 AM
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I don't mean to be critical of anybody. I just know there's more than a few guys around who sleep, eat & breathe this stuff and it shouldn't be an unknown. I already exposed the nation's power companies for pumping extra voltage into my mobilehome and apartment for the past ten dang gum YEARS to keep us so wound up tight struggling to pay THEM nobody could take the time to figure these issues out => APCO Windfall from Trickle Current Excess Profits Extortion Fleecing of America Decades of Property Theft causing Virginia Grease Fire Deaths <> I've already put em into a tailspin so somebody should take advantage of this edge and go ahead and do the remainder of the deed. It's time for a Prison Break while the guards are shaken and the beast is temporarily stunned. And quite frankly I'm more than little ticked off because by my calculations on that page the APCO Virginia power company owes me over $3,000, and I called them today to discuss payment arrangements on my bill and yet once again got talked to like I was dirt. I know I leave a bit to be desired but I'm not dirt yet, and they owe me $3,000 not a bunch of lip. I want these people off my back. I don't want to have to ever call people on the phone already knowing how they're going to talk to me, like I'm a cow pile in their pasture. But they have part of it right. We are all surrounded by a barbed wire fence. I see that fence coming down. If no one here knows how to bounce a magnet then that's the way it has to be, but I'm working on gravity wheels staring at imminent success. One way or another I'm going to get my power from a natural source and these people are going to be permanently out of my vocabulary.

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Old 10-28-2009, 03:50 AM
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@CloudSeeder;72598...if you have one magnet sitting stationary and had another magnet on a wheel, and set that wheel to spinning at 60 revs so that it passed through into & out of the stationary secured magnets magnetic field, wouldn't that produce a regular oscillation? ...

what you are saying is true but eventually the same force of similar and oposites that push/pull will reach an balance point. Floyd had one single magnet occilating all on its own.

I think they were exceedingly practical & focused because they lived in a different time, and while their achievements were great they are reproduceable and extremely within our reach.

I agree - it is simplicity compared to our modern day's complicated technology. Problem we have today is that we are so conditioned to our resistors and transistors. We have to get away from the electronics!

All that we can learn from 'electronic' has already been learned. We have to get understanding that which is not in the current science! Get back to the foundation and start looking at Radiant and Aether and Sea of energy ...
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:54 AM
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Those are good words, Aromaz. I feel rather good about the situation because now I know so much more than ever before and, what I've learned tells me the end of the rainbow pot of gold does exist. I can't be unhappy about that. When I finish the gravity wheels to my satisfaction if no one has solved this by then it will make it onto my To Do list. I noticed in my reading that Mr. Sweet got a degree from M.I.T. when he was 57 I think. That's also encouraging. I'm approaching 58 myself.

With gravity there is no bounce so you have to design in some way to create the bounce. It's good training for tackling the Sweet/Tesla stuff. I sure have appreciated your comments.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:04 AM
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With gravity there is no bounce so you have to design in some way to create the bounce. It's good training for tackling the Sweet/Tesla stuff. I sure have appreciated your comments.
Now this is getting severely interesting. What is gravity? Before you will be able to use gravity for any purpose as to energy; you will first need to understand how it works. And that has been a mystery since humans started doing science - and it still is today.

I had a theory; then it made more sence then I searched if was really so out of line and I was in fact very surprised to find this tehory already existed more thasn 300 years ago! But mainstream scinece ignored it.

Consider this, and seach for more in this line:
+Gravity+cosmic+graviton+push
In particular you can read the works of "Le Sage"

Gravity is NOT a pull effect - it is a PUSH effect from normal cosmic particles.
In other words Gravity / Gravitons = Cosmic rays = Radiant Energy
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:40 AM
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Now this is getting severely interesting. What is gravity? Before you will be able to use gravity for any purpose as to energy; you will first need to understand how it works. And that has been a mystery since humans started doing science - and it still is today.

I had a theory; then it made more sence then I searched if was really so out of line and I was in fact very surprised to find this tehory already existed more thasn 300 years ago! But mainstream scinece ignored it.

Consider this, and seach for more in this line:
+Gravity+cosmic+graviton+push
In particular you can read the works of "Le Sage"

Gravity is NOT a pull effect - it is a PUSH effect from normal cosmic particles.
In other words Gravity / Gravitons = Cosmic rays = Radiant Energy
Well supported by this experiment

YouTube - Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment. English version
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:53 PM
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After watching the Nassim Haramein video (all 8 hours of it) I found this on John Hutchison's web site:

hutchisoneffect.ca

Now if that isn't an OU device, I don't know what is.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:42 PM
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Now this is getting severely interesting. What is gravity? Before you will be able to use gravity for any purpose as to energy; you will first need to understand how it works. And that has been a mystery since humans started doing science - and it still is today.

I had a theory; then it made more sence then I searched if was really so out of line and I was in fact very surprised to find this tehory already existed more thasn 300 years ago! But mainstream science ignored it.

Consider this, and seach for more in this line:
+Gravity+cosmic+graviton+push
In particular you can read the works of "Le Sage"

Gravity is NOT a pull effect - it is a PUSH effect from normal cosmic particles.
In other words Gravity / Gravitons = Cosmic rays = Radiant Energy
The weight of the universe presses down on each physical body in the universe <> equally but also according to the recipient planet or moon's Mass <> was my understanding. However, for the purpose of making a Gravity Wheel spin it isn't really germain whether gravity is pulling, pushing or both. You just put a trigger here, a ramp or cam there, and you have a leveraged increase of power-on-the-fly to spin a generator gear off the high-torque axle (hub).

It's a spinning (ever-changing) pieces & forces jigsaw puzzle <> piece a cake.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:40 PM
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"piece a cake"?
... Gravity's an outside force = gravity wheels are not perpetual motion.
... but they are an example of perpetual power like Floyd Sweet found.
... perpetual power meaning you can add switches to turn it on or off.

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Old 11-04-2009, 09:11 PM
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Switches, backed up by circuits, even sometimes a Triode Vacuum Amplifier... Gravity won't produce a fraction of what Sweet found but it's fun to work with anyway. If you build a device that does one of em you've proved both of em <> Floyd already built one of those, and so has Robert Kostoff albeit using centrifugal force heavily (still Gravity).

The question is no longer IF but HOW.

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Old 11-04-2009, 10:58 PM
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Now this is getting severely interesting. <> Gravity is NOT a pull effect - it is a PUSH effect from normal cosmic particles. In other words Gravity / Gravitons = Cosmic rays = Radiant Energy
Hold on just a sec there Aromaz! You are coming dangerously close to saying we are being held down by the push of sunlight. I'm sure you don't mean that but the General Public gets whiff of a statement that even remotely sounds like that we won't be able to show our face.

What I'm thinking is that all the Matter in the Universe (and us, and Earth) is all one big homogenized "liquid", and the dry liquid of our universe has a pressure against all the stuff in the [dry] liquid. Like repels Like, so since #1 most large bodies has its own gravitational field and #2 all the gravitational fields likely have the same charge, it's the #3 combination of ALL OF THEM against the ONE OF US. The total of their REPEL is pushing against us, and yet still from gravity fields, a Constant all the time from all sides.

It's an illusion put upon us that we're being pulled down. Hmm, perhaps all that repel force is adding to our gravitational field's effect. Our field would be magnified by the rest. Maybe that's how it works. But somebody else will have to write it better... as in a proper equation.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:48 AM
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I think you make it to complex. Gravity is simple magnetism. Everything is subject to magnetism on some level. The earth's magnetic field has energy to attract just about anything. You wanna beat it do it in a Asymmetrical fashion, or find an opposite energy that creates a null field in the magnetic structure of the material that contains the energy. Thats what Floyds Sweet did.
Simple is easier to accommodate.

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Gravity is simple magnetism.
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Be careful there. If gravity is caused by or is simple magnetism, how can planets in our solar system without magnetic field (like Venus, for example) show gravitational interaction with Sun?

Gravitational interaction - orbital motion around Sun.

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Old 11-05-2009, 04:17 PM
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Be careful there. If gravity is caused by or is simple magnetism, how can planets in our solar system without magnetic field (like Venus, for example) show gravitational interaction with Sun?

Gravitational interaction - orbital motion around Sun.
Thanks Tehnoman of Latvia. I thought I was as simple as anybody (Matt) but Floyd Sweet found some energies bigger than planets, big enough to control the planets against their individual wills. Thus we see a universal pattern in solar systems everywhere, in every galaxy controlling rocks and gas giants alike.

Those people who aren't simple like me, I trust they will figure it all out.
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If gravity is caused by or is simple magnetism, how can planets in our solar system without magnetic field (like Venus, for example) show gravitational interaction with Sun?
Simple...The sun has a magnetic feild that holds them in place no matter what they are materially made of while inertia tries to pull them away with equal force. Orbit.

Do you think they have no gravity on there surface? Thats the gravity I was talking about.

So you think that just because we can't find what we define as magnetic (Iron induced) field none else exist. Boy you have some faith in science I
can't achieve.

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Simple...The sun has a magnetic feild that holds them in place no matter what they are materially made of while inertia tries to pull them away with equal force. Orbit.

Do you think they have no gravity on there surface? Thats the gravity I was talking about.

So you think that just because we can't find what we define as magnetic (Iron induced) field none else exist. Boy you have some faith in science I
can't achieve.

Matt
Sorry Matt, that does seem a bit far fetched... but I'll keep an open mind... another question for you.. what about the moons orbiting planets without magnetic fields?

Maybe I misunderstood your theory
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:37 PM
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All Matter is attracted to all other Matter. Magnetic field or not. But to look out in the night sky knowing some have magnetic fields and some do not yet there they all are rotating the same as if they're all the same.... is a strong indication of some overwhelming, all controlling "Master Force" ordering opposite systems to behave the same way.

I thought Floyd Sweet discovered that force, still do. Everything else belongs inside parentheses.
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I'll have to quote myself, to answer that.

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Remember Ed Grey? Didn't he magnetize plastic. HMMM... I wonder if you'll find out how to do that from a text book. LOL 200 known magnetic effects yet still only 110 +- explained. Like I said Simple is easier to accommodate.

We can go on and talk about anti gravitational effects. And how they relate to gravity if it was a magnetic field.
If Floyd sweet and others truly had negative energy and it promoted a weightless effect this would be repulsion from gravity. This energy that caused the repulsion would create like poles with the energy that was trying to attract it, in its uncharged state. IE a North on North effect.
This also is completely compatible with Hawking's Black Hole Theory. Positve and negative particles attract to each other. Then couple. They stall in motion and are sucked into the back hole. Until the positively charged particles so repulsed by the negative field emitted from the black hole, the particle uncouples from the negative and is projected outward.

This is the exact opposite of what we see. The positive particles are attracted to the earth.

What other particles are attracted to the earth and what effect might they have on us and surrounding planets? Are they charge particle that interact with matter in a field influence?
Since we can already see this happening on a regular basis right in our own back yards I am not sure that escalating to a higher reaction is necessary.

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Yep and some day I hope (and I am truly anxious for it to come) we all get to ask the master force why he did it that way... But until then... Simple is better.

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Master force versus Master Force

@Matt: I really meant Master force not God. I mean the Master of all other forces, as in superior, "overwhelming". The real Master Force that is God has enabled me to understand several ways to make upward force enough to overcome Gravity. One is derived from my Millenial Dawn engine and the other is an understanding I got from reading Tesla's last papers in the Fall of 2007. Tesla's is easier than mine. I have no plans to release either one. Every time I do release something somebody else gets rich. I'll wait til that decides to change.

I appreciate you writing so much information about gravity and anti-gravity. You are very correct though. The engines are very simple.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:21 PM
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Gravity

For centuries people looked for and try to find some sort of proof that Gravity is 'something that is pulling' somehting comparable to magnetism - but all failed.

If all fail, then it is time to change the hypothesis and start looking for the push effect.

@clouseeder: "...Hold on just a sec there Aromaz! You are coming dangerously close to saying we are being held down by the push of sunlight. ..."

Well, shockingly YES - that is exactly what I am saying - or rather the many types of radiation from ALL universal bodies. I wrote 73 pages about this till now - only a few days ago did I discover this site; and his is the same as my conclusions - but his explanations is better.

Are you REALLY open minded? Then study this very detailed work - about 40 pages of compact explanations by Xavier Borg; My hat off to him:

EMRP Push Gravity Theory : Introduction
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:32 PM
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@Aromaz: Hmm, I'm not clear why I would need to read 40 pages to convince me of something I'm already convinced about i.e. a force pushing us down. Perhaps I would if not for the major head traumas I received as a child that reduced my reading speed. I read what I need to read. Thanks for the link though. You're very thoughtful, and thorough.

I would however suggest that ALL those radiations are conceivably forming into a meshed force combination, a kind of soft force field. Some people might perceive me very open minded to suggest it tho.

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:56 PM
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@Aromaz: Hmm, I'm not clear why I would need to read 40 pages to convince me of something I'm already convinced about i.e. a force pushing us down. Perhaps I would if not for the major head traumas I received as a child that reduced my reading speed. I read what I need to read. Thanks for the link though. You're very thoughtful, and thorough.

I would however suggest that ALL those radiations are conceivably forming into a meshed force combination, a kind of soft force field. Some people might perceive me very open minded to suggest it tho.
Well, I hope more people will study those few pages because I think there is a great truth. For IF we can really come to the point that we can understand gravity, and these descriptions are correct - THEN we are 80% done with getting 'anti'-gravity devices and crafts. I assume they would work on the principal of a jet engine - taking the 'gravitons' in one side and boost them out the other side. Speed? Well that should be able to go faster than gravitons. What is the estimated speed of 'gravitons'?

WOW! Life does get interesting.
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Actually, any rotating object creates it's own gravitational field. As an object rotates it tries to pull everything on it and around it to the center of its axis. We can create artificial gravity by rotating an object on it's axis. The faster an object rotates, and the larger the mass, the greater the gravitational field is. On a larger planet we would weigh signifigantly more, and on a smaller planet or a moon, we would weigh signifigantly less. Therefore gravity is an effect of a rotating mass producing centrifugal force, nothing more. To overcome this effect, it may only be necessary to spin an object in the opposite direction of the spinning planet or mass. Earth spins toward the East, so spinning an object toward the West may produce zero gravity, if we can overcome the rotational spin and mass. Building a gravitational motor may be simpler than we all imagine. Maybe Bessler knew this when he built his. Maybe he had to position it in a certain direction to make it work. Maybe we all missed the boat when we tried to duplicate it. Good Luck. Stealth

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Well, I hope more people will study those few pages because I think there is a great truth. For IF we can really come to the point that we can understand gravity, and these descriptions are correct - THEN we are 80% done with getting 'anti'-gravity devices and crafts. I assume they would work on the principal of a jet engine - taking the 'gravitons' in one side and boost them out the other side. Speed? Well that should be able to go faster than gravitons. What is the estimated speed of 'gravitons'?

WOW! Life does get interesting.
Stealth certainly states his ideas well. Unfortunately you both have missed something. To overcome Gravity it is not necessary to make an "anti" Gravity. You need not define gravity nor understand its causes. The only required is an upward force-producing engine that makes enough upward force that is stronger than gravity and strong enough extra to lift the craft.

That's what Tesla did, that's what I also figured out. Plus his. All you need is the key to the door, and I'm very sure I have it <> twice. It's much the same as figuring out gravity wheels. Once you understand the few tricks you begin to see them everywhere, all kinds of shapes & designs. I've got em that use centrifugal, others that use centrifugal plus other forces. I've got so many it's enough to drive ya nuts.

Even the one above in the earlier post where I show how to combine pendulums + falling weights. hahaha I didn't explain it to the minutest detail though because I wanted Peter to have it. He's earned it.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:07 PM
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Apologies, it's in The Mechanical Engine Post #610 => The Mechanical Engine
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@Aromaz: I didn't mean to take anything away from your comments either. In fact, about a week or so ago somebody released an ion drive that "steps up" energy out the exhaust just like you said, and then there's the EmDrive that purports to use microwave energy, also in line with what you posted => ‘Impossible’ Device Could Propel Flying Cars // Current

Just like gravity wheels there's a number of answers.
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Ion Drive => Slashdot Science Story | VASIMR Ion Engine Could Cut Mars Trip To 39 Days (posted October 19).

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Actually, any rotating object creates it's own gravitational field. As an object rotates it tries to pull everything on it and around it to the center of its axis. We can create artificial gravity by rotating an object on it's axis. The faster an object rotates, and the larger the mass, the greater the gravitational field is. On a larger planet we would weigh signifigantly more, and on a smaller planet or a moon, we would weigh signifigantly less. Therefore gravity is an effect of a rotating mass, nothing more. Good Luck. Stealth
Earth's Moon is 1/6 the size, always keeps the same side toward us. Without rotation it should not have any gravity at all? But it does have rotation around the Earth and it does have rotation around the sun, so it's only missing 1/3 the causes for rotation. <> Also, does Earth's Moon acquire some gravity by being so near to Earth -that does have gravity- that the two rotating together as a binary system the Earth somehow "loans" some gravity up to include the Moon?
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Making a Spinning Temperature-Opposed (Pulsing On~Off) Repulsion Engine System:

From what I've read about Gravity everybody seems to agree it is really a very weak energy... so even if you did have a platter spinning and it made a gravitational field, how heavy a plate would it have to be to make an appreciable level of field? However, if the plate is spinning at an outrageous speed, speed can make up for less weight/Mass. <> But at such a high speed it would be a steady speed. You couldn't change speed very fast or much at all. <> If you had two parallel plates spinning in opposite directions, and close to each other but separated by a dielectric that was a barrier to both their gravitational fields.... but you could flip a switch turning the dielectric on & off fast, maybe you could do something that way by causing a jerky energy pulse of either attraction or repulsion <> an Energy Bellows (a Repulsion Engine?).

You wouldn't necessarily need to depend on one big engine; you could use many small engines, which I like because in the event of engine failure the other 99 are still working. I'm not fond of hitting the ground. That's one difference between mine and Tesla's. With his one is plenty. It shouldn't ever fail. Of course there's always the incidental lightning strike passing through the atmosphere so I would still prefer a backup engine, backup circuitry. My Millenial Dawn engine could supply the electricity to power Tesla's, but from what I've read here recently it looks like my MD engine is Analog. I'd like to see it run some day but I lack the facilities and everything else to get it built. Better to go with the Digital (electronic circuits).

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If the spinning platters were non-conductor at one temperature that could be flash-heated (flash-supercooled, flash voltage increased) that by the metal used would initiate a changeover to being a positive conductor, you might could achieve the pulsing energy without the on-off dielectric sandwich switch. And to make it even more dramatic you could do the cooling/heating/electrifying of each plate that would double the pulse effect (repulsion).
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