Hi Luther,
I have been a member of this forum for some time, I can assure you that you have certainly joined with the most wonderful people you can imagine.
I have benefited sooooo much here.

About Radiant Energy my conclusion is as follows:
Radiant Energy termed by Tesla is the essence of all energies in the universe, and it is composed of male and female energies. Every thing in the universe is using it to maintain its existence and what we term as time comes forth.

Many terms have been developed over time for it: Chi, Qi, Prana, Aetheric Energy, Life Energy, BioEnergy, Superlight, Orgone, Gravition, Virtual Vacuum Flux, Soul (Middleeastern view), ...

But it is all the same ...

See SuperLight

With Love ....

Hello,

I would also like to say this is a fascinating discussion! Now I'm still at the beginning of all this but I think it's time this energy form should be rediscovered.
Apparently Tesla had it all a hundred years ago.

I'd like to ask Dr Lindemann or some of you other knowledgeable guys a few things- please excuse my poor English:

You certainly are familiar with the experiment Mr Bedini shows in the Energy from the Vacuum DVD where he lights a neon bulb between ground and the plastic cover of a battery under charge. Now this is a solid state charger, not a rotor type machine. I wonder if the same thing would happen on the big rotary machine charging the 1600amp hour bank?
This really got me thinking along the lines the RotoVerter guys have always stated: Radiant energy IS RF energy. Probably thats why it is somewhat "arcane" since many of us -myself the first-have no idea of RF circuit design and engineering.
The Rotoverter guys say it's a standing wave which forms nodes where voltage and current are out of phase. So there's points in the circuit where current is zero and voltage is maximized and other nodes where it's the reverse. This dephasing of voltage and current explains why the radiant effect is arriving BEFORE the current arrives in the circuit.
I run a five coil machine and have examined the spikes going to the battery. When I expand them on the scope I see a very fast oscillation instead of a spike.
I have also found that I can take a coil off the machine while it's running and it will work just as well on the "operating table". I have made a "recovery coil" with about a kg of 0.6 mm wire and the same iron core I use on the other coils. When I held this next to the core of the coil on the table, a neon bulb would light in my hand when I touched one of the wires of the recovery coil.
And yet, on the surface all that was going into the coil was the PWM signal that drove the power coil. No electric shock at all.
so I guess that there is definitely a lot of RF around in these circuits. Perhaps Mr Bedini has invented a low impedance tesla transformer by using a bifilar coil? Especially with an open air core coil this seems logical to me. A one to one coil yet it can oscillate. But no extremely high voltage is produced since we have the same amount of turns in primary and secondaries.
Yet this does not explain the battery charging effect....

Here is an image of the wave I get when I connect across the battery.

Thanks for sharing all your knowledge here!

Albert

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Someone wrote me after I posted a msg about my book and this is the most appropriate thread for this:

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Hi,

Great, thank you.

Quantum concepts apply at every single level but concepts such as relativity do not apply at the quantum level.

The premise of my book is that there is a medium that light travels through in "vacuum" space. It is the virtual
photon sea of potential with infinite positive and negative "particles" in a constant flux. From that, many things
can be logically deduced by very known principles, some theoretical and some mere hypothesis or speculation.

The book walks someone through seeing what the "aether" is, how any piece of matter is acting as a dipole
to break the normally symmetrical personality of the aether into asymmetrical movement to turn literal
quantum potential into work that can be measured in joules. I link together this concept to show the interaction
and what makes the mass of an object and even how it causes the effect of gravitation and how it pushes us
to the ground. Anything with mass displaces the aether and the aether rebounds back to where it was displaced.
Any mass on the way will have it's protons resist this aetheric rebounding effect pushing it towards the center
of the displaced mass. That is why we're pushed to the ground. I show it in action with inertia and what the
effect of time really is....in the world according to me..LOL

All these concepts seamlessly link together without contradicting each other...at least to my limited knowledge.
I show how the battery acting as a dipole is really receiving its source charge from vacuum space and not the
electrolytes. The electrolytes only create a separation in charges when the battery is "charged" so that the
potential difference at the terminals break the symmetry of the virtual photon flux of the quantum mechanical
vacuum. This particular concept I am simply doing my best to paraphrase Tom Bearden in simple terms and
with simple diagrams so most people can get it even if they never have heard of "free energy."

Once the potential is asymmetrically broken, it moves over the wires (the voltage potential in a circuit) and
how it is the initiator of electron current (electrons donated by the copper atoms themselves and not from
the battery or source dipole). And how to pulse the potential on a circuit without causing the electrons to
flow...currentless electricity just using the voltage potential side of it. I briefly describe some of my experiments
and how I applied these concepts and got results from the Bedini SG type circuits and from the Stan Meyer
WFC type circuits.

One of my friends told me the book could be called "Bearden for Dummies" LOL

It isn't just for energy technology buffs, it is for people who are interested in spirituality and consciousness
and where the potential from consciousness comes from. Also, how a circuit can output more than you have
to put into it...the rest comes free from nature. Many of these concepts aren't new to people in the "overunity"
field if they have been following people like Bearden, Bedini, and Lindemann. But, I think it really gives a
simple perspective of all of this put together in a nice simple model that just plain makes sense for the
most part.

I don't claim this to be 100% true and accurate but I think you'll have to agree after reading a copy that
it really does bring a few things together.

Anyway, I'm going to post my reponse to you here in my forum at www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy
so others in the free energy field can know more about how the book relates to what they're interested in.
Feel free to join the forum, there is no charge. If you don't get approved quick, then just PM me through the
forum, my username is aaron and I'll approve you asap.

My email is getting backed up from all the response and that is why I want to post my response in the forum
to point people to.

Take care,
Aaron

Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:15:07 -0800
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com
Subject: Re:The Quantum Key - describes what radiant energy/ voltage potential i
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com

Hey, how are you ?

I just read your message you posted at the wfcy2k group.
I am very interested in practical applications for the quantum theory.

I am an inventor and I am always very curious about universal laws and how can we bennefit from them.
Would you mind telling me a bit more about you and these ideas you're talking about ?

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Fort Lauderdale, FL

GET A COPY HERE: THE QUANTUM KEY

Zhanks for the plug for your book, but could someone perhaps write an answer to my questions? Thank you!

albert

Aaron,

How does your 'concept' of Radiant Energy compare with Longitudinal waves ?

What does spirituality and consciousness have to do with Radiant Energy ?

- Schpankme

Albert,

I don't have experience with rotoverter except that it isn't free energy. It is a power factor correction modification. Someone else can answer your full question better.

Hi,

The potential or voltage potential is the radiant part and if we can direct it without closing the loop and causing "electron current" to flow, then it travels longitudinally. It is instantaneous transfer from one "place" to another "place."

The body and it's nervous system operates on longitudinal impulses. When you feel something by touching it with your finger, your brain is registering it BEFORE you actually touch it so that there is a time delay taken into account so that you have sensation of touching it in live time. The sensory information is sent to your finger before you actually touch it to give the impression that everything is in time. This is a superluminal time-reversal phenomenon.

Below the belly and in front of the spine, there is a capacitor that holds about 80% of our on board life force potential and the other 20% is being utilized by normal functioning. In Chinese, that capacitor is called the Dan Tien or the "Sea of Qi." Qi, Ki, Prana, Breath of Life, Life Force, etc... are exactly radiant energy...it is the virtual photon potential of vacuum space/time. The subconscious mind operates from the spine near this area and there is a lot of grey and white matter exactly like what is in the brain. This is where the "gut feeling" comes from.

None of the electrical action in the body comes from the chemicals, etc... When there is a chemical action in the body in a cell for example to pump in certain nutrients and pump out others, the chemical action is essentially causing a dipole effect to break the symmetry of the potential in its vicinity in order to cause the potential to move causing "electrical action."

Radiant Energy is the potential is the life force energy
A capacitor can hold a certain amount of the radiant gas and so can the body
Also as living organisms - human beings - are open non-equilibrium thermodynamic systems, we also have open access to a constant influx of potential to replace any potential dissipated from work done by us.

The infinite sea in 3d time/space filled with infinite potential...the infinite potential is what makes up the collective unconscious mind. It is a recording medium that maintains our memory. Our memory is not stored in our brain but in the collective/matrix itself. For each connection made in our brain, it is a known variable in the collective what piece of data that connection corresponds to in the collective. If the memory was in our brain, there would be nothing that carries on when we die and I believe there is, because it isn't recorded by anything physical.

Technical Remote Viewing quantifiable proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that we can access info that isn't in our brain but that resides in the collective... you can see some of my older practice sessions here to see what I mean... I had no idea was I was viewing until after I was done. The data comes out pretty raw.
basic trv sessions

Also Bearden's Radionics-Action at a Distance video he discusses a lot of this. There is one case of a man who graduated with a degree in mathematics in the UK. He had no brain in his head...totally water and not much more than a brain stem.

With spirituality, lessening our individual conscious thinking mind so that we are more in a state of pure being (like were were before our judgment mind perceived that we are an individual personality separate from God - the original sin in my opinion). This is one of my main personal spiritual goals. Becoming one with the infinite potential basically.

I know I went on some tangents. My 2nd book that I'm about 30% done with (before editing) focuses more on the mind/consciousness/synchronicity, etc... and how it all ties back to the concepts in the first one that spells out what the potential is.

Anyway, I hope that helps a bit.

Aaron,

I agree with much of what you wrote, and agree that Bearden has it right, more people should read his work and that of Evans. As to the word - GOD - this is a man made word to enslave the minds and the will of the people. One does not worship man to free the mind.

- Schpankme

I agree that language is the tool to enslave the mind and keep people locked in chains. When I say God, I refer to the innate infinite beingness that exists universally and transitioning from a perspective of individuality to this beingness is what I refer to.

Hi,

I have looked at several threads here, and I have watched the video "Energy from the Vacuum". In that video John takes a lightbulb and shows that radient energy flows thru plastic. I have seen others here show this in a photograph with the aluminum heat sync.

My question is under what conditions does this happen, does this only show up with 24V? In the film John shuts off the energizer and the light goes off. I am wondering what was the wattage of the bulb used and type was this a neon or led?

Thanks!

( PS I personally am a Christian, and believe that God is not a man made creation but I belive this is outside the scope of this thread. )

peace

I believe the bulb is 90v neon bulb with the 2 skinny wire leads coming out. I have no idea the wattage of the bulb spec.

(just the word God made by man but not the concept it represents, which would be different based on each person's perspective - the descriptions on the superlight posts pretty much vibe for me)

I believe this neon test is most important. this shows that we have a RF component to the signal that goes to the battery. (skin effect).

Ok,

Well I have tried the neon bulb to the same areas that John tried and I did not have success. Maybe I need a better ground?

Yes since I don't have an oscilloscope, I was hoping to use this method to determine the quantity of radiant energy.

Thanks for the input.

I’m a newbie to this chat area, but have been following along and reading the messages. I have a question thought. Is there a difference between a circuit that produces; a radiant event in a coil or motor/generator, a Tesla coil, or that produced by a WhimHurst or static machine. In other words, these all appear to be static producing, radiant energy devices. What is the difference if any?

Is not one static or static dielectric field the same as the other? The only difference being the machine that produces it, and the similarity being a high tension static field? With little or no current as possible. I would think then that a static machine like the whimhurst would be the perfect radiant energy producer available?

Thank you for your responses in advance!

Aaron

What machine are you working on
at present ????
Thanks Kevin

Where’s the radiant?

It’s leading the current by 90 deg. The current is lagging 90 deg behind in a coil, and the speed of the voltage is fairly infinite. So the voltage spike has already done everything before current even gets to the coil. This wave form was a snapshot from my digital scope which I could see exactly what was going on in my motor (a sort of hybrid), in any case after two weeks of thinking about it I finally came to this conclusion.

Update: K, after thinking about it, it's on the negitive side of the wave form, but does not disclude the positve radient, Maybe there are two types...

Anyway, after polarity switch, which is what everyone seems to be saying..

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Hi Kevin,

One is a water fuel cell that I haven't released any details on and another coming together soon is an SG with a modification that hasn't been released either. Must have results to post before saying anything.

i was doing some experiments with voltage step up and so on and i can across an odd effect i was pulsing a step up transformer with 6 dc and then i had a neon hooked to the suppose'ed negative with both pins i might add the suppose'ed positive was not connected and if i touched the neon glass the gas would light up and even follow my finger what the heck is going on with that was it some kinda radiant energy effect?

heres a vid


http://www.youtube.com/v/b72Qs3lqtY8

my two cents worth...
I think your finger is acting as a ground plane, plus it's also injecting 60hz into the tube, which just match's the ignition point of the gas. best guess.

well im pulsing it at like 2.3k+ hz
tell me more of this 60 hz injecting
its weird tho how it finds a ground right through the glass

The pulsing of 2.3khz is for the coil I presume, this is not what i'm talking about. 60hz exists everywhere, our body's pick it up all the time, it's the frequency of north American power lines (wall socket), however our body's act as an antenna to it and other frequency's, if you stick your finger on a scope probe it shows up right away.

Have you ever played with a plasma bulb? They work from the inside and look for a conduction ground plane outside. you can put your hand on the glass and the high voltage goes right to your finger... very cool!

http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/plasmaballs2.htm

i never have played with a plasma globe there neat ive seen on youtube ppl burn through paper with a pin and penny and light lightbulbs
now i add a voltage multiplier lights the neon better but i cant get it to run on one wire i wish i had some mini stainless tube to make a mini meyers cell

For stainless steal I like to hunt around -Car salvage yards, metal salvage yards, metal salvage stores. recycle yards. If your just experimenting and don’t care about shape, try metal things around the house like utensils, broken or fractured tools that you don’t care about, some of these contain stainless steel. On a budget? I like going to the “one buck” and “reusable” type stores.. here you can find bargains galore. The reusable type stores are the best for finding odds and ends, tools and electronics for a few bucks, most of which contain valuable parts inside which aren’t even made any more, like old radios and the like. As for stainless steel, you can substitute temporarily with another metal, just to see if things work they way they should. Later you can then use the real thing.

Have Fun!

Hear is my mini Myers cell, the Battery next to it is a aaa.

karl

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Hello,
I am answering to Aarons explanation of radiant energy. well, more questions come up here....
IF we succeed in tapping this as a new energy source- for the moment there is only a bunch of toy sized models of these machines around-what will happen to the environment?
the first reaction of one of my friends when I showed him the Bedini machine was: "What will happen when we make one that is the size of a house?"

When this is scaled up, running everywhere on the planet- will this drain our life force or do damage to other beings in other places we don't know of?

AND: I always wonder if we will not draw some unwanted attention to this little obscure planet of ours. ...
this is more philosophical than technical, but it might throw a light on some things-for instance the fact that the Methernitha group in Switzerland got scared of the possible effect they might unleash when getting their scaled up testatika to run...this is -I have heard at least- the reason why they stopped working on it.
Another possibility with radiant energy is the uncontrolled runaway situation that might cause an enormous sudden surge of power into the device. Causing immediate destruction of the machine and possibly even a lighting strike. It happened to Bob Boyce with his electrolyser.

I am trying to get a picture of what we will gain when we use this new technology.

I wishe everyone on the forum a happy holiday season!

Albert

Hi Albert,

Well, I don't think so, I believe that this energy (Radiant Energy) is dynamic and is pouring unto us like a waterfall, and never ends. This is certainly the energy all of us use daily, all of the plants and animals use. If it were so this energy would have been exhausted a long time ago, but this energy pours onto us endlessly and is a blessing from our creator. Gravity never ends?! because it is based upon this energy. You can take a look at SuperLight for more info.

Hope this helps ...

Elias

I agree to elias. I have heard of many cases when people who are near these devices (joecells, Searl effect generators, moe-joe cells) experience good feelings and vitality even healing effects. For example, John Searl was able to heal his face burns in very short time just by sitting near his generator when it was operating. Doctors could not explain that. Although if not properly tuned, the cells could also radiate out DOR or negative side of the orgon/aether.

mind if I join this philosophical debate?

To be honest I don't know whether harnessing this energy will affect us spiritually. Most of us agree that the energy is very much like (or even identical to) chi, the life force.

We also agree that it is (as far as we can tell) limitless.

However, subtle things appear to affect our relationship with the life force. It depends on what you believe here but for example if you believe in Feng Sui then something as simple as having a fountian in one corner of your room can greatly improve this relationship.

And if you believe in astrology, then even subtle gravitational forces from distant planets and stars appear to affect this relationship as well.

so it isn't unlikely that these devices, that strongly interact with this energy, may affect us as well. These effect could be benificial or detrimental.

As tesla noted certain frequencies could cause a stinging sensation even at a distance and other frequencies gave the feeling of euphoria.

I don't believe that they will suck the life force out of us, though i do wonder what influence they may have. Definatly worth researching though first we need to better our understanding of these forces before we can draw any conclusions.

i think these devices must be safe as tom b. said the energy comes from virtual protons and they force out this energy in an unusable form we are just transforming it to usable energy turning the battery in to a receiver for what is floating around all the time for any receiver to use ie the human body the earth everything