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Old 08-28-2009, 10:16 PM
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ok all,

ive been having a play with my Rodin coil, using a pwm to a mosfet to the coil.... 1 thing ive noticed apart from the intense magnetics put out by the coil, is that it gets hot....quite hot..very quickly.

umm....since there are 2 windings on a rodin, does anybody have any ideas for tests, using the above pwm / mosfet setup?

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I have been experimenting with various Rodin coil configs. There are some interesting aspects to them, but so far nothing ground shaking. But those coils work extremely well in orgonite pendants. We made dozens of them and showed them to several very sensitive persons that can feel the flow of energies. They all say that bad astral beings and elementals stay at about 15m radius from the pendants, they just can't get to the people that are wearing those pendants. Also people report increased vitality. Even I can feel something from them





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I have been experimenting with various Rodin coil configs.
Awesome collection Jetijs. I feel it too. I just don't know the activation sequence .
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centrifugal spin in rodin coil

I think the "next step" with experimenting with Rodin coils,
is to use a toroid that is strong -- not plastic -- and to fill
it with a ferromagnetic liquid.

If a centrifugal SPIN can be made to occur, you will have a
force vector at right angles to the force of gravity -- like a
gyroscope.

With clever electronics and pulsing at just the right moment,
you can increase the force at one particular spot on the 360 turn,
creating a vector force in a constant direction relative to the torus.

As Stan Deyo points out, to make such a thing more stable,
you should have 3 toroids, arranged to support each other
on a common platform.

I think sticking a metal object in the Rodin coil to see
it turn into a monopole magnet is MISSING the point.
This thing can create propulsion if you can wrap your head
around how to do it.

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Old 09-08-2009, 05:32 PM
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Science >>>>>>>>> Metaphysics

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Old 09-08-2009, 05:34 PM
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I think sticking a metal object in the Rodin coil to see
it turn into a monopole magnet is MISSING the point.
This thing can create propulsion if you can wrap your head
around how to do it.
Agreed.
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Old 09-08-2009, 05:52 PM
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Jetijs

What about this?

Determine which way they project "thrust." Use two Rodin coils in a Bedini resonant SSG... orient them so that they create a thrust intersection or common vector field.

According to Bearden Scalar basics, that field should unlock virtually unlimited potential... for work.

Thank you for sharing your coil art....
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Hello,

Has anyone seen this video: YouTube - Tesla-type activity in Bedini SSG with Rodin Coil

I will make a Rodin coil sooner than I planned. It seems to shows properties that are not found in conventional coil windings.

Also, how does Lenz law play in the Rodin Coil?
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question for the ones that created a Rodin Coil

- someone tried to use the sequence + - nothing
(one polarity, reverse polarity then stop in a equal time interval ratio) and vary the time interval

- Rodin said that the 2 wire toroid is in fact 2 separate circuits. What about one wire all around using some type of AC but with a off spacer + - stop
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:40 PM
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Marko Rodin w/ Nassim Haramein & Jamie Buturff @ Tesla Tech discussing Rodin Coil Pt. 8 - AOL Video
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Interesting observation

Hi, Last night I was playing with 2 Rodin's coils, pulsing one from the output of my Bedini and second just sitting on the top of the first one. I connected 3.2V LED to the top one and she begun to pulse according to my 555 speed, but when I connected again, I switched LED's polarity....and nothing. I found that LED has to be connected: positive to beginning of winding and negative to the end in order to work, unlike my ordinary pickup coil. I'll try different winding patterns and configuration to see what she's capable of.

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I SO want to see someone to try the following setup:

Ferrofluid container below a position flat Rodin coil. A tube goes up out of the container through the Rcoil, and then back way around down.
?- Can the Rcoil thust the ferrofluid up against gravity? And if so, at which rate per Watt? A vortex funnel in (up) and a nozzle out hopefully end up being key.
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:25 PM
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Nassim / Rodin

Hi DavidE,

Thanks for posting the Nassim / Rodin stuff.

Actually, there are a lot more videos... fun to watch:

YouTube - theUMMCorg's Channel
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bad astral beings...

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They all say that bad astral beings and elementals stay at about 15m radius from the pendants, they just can't get to the people that are wearing those pendants. Also people report increased vitality. Even I can feel something from them
So does that mean if you, by mistake, turn the coil around 180 degrees,
bad astral beings will be attracted to you?
If yes, sounds risky. I'm always dropping my cell phone.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:58 AM
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Rodin Wiring Diagram? Where?

Can someone refer me to a nice URL showing the
Rodin wiring diagram?
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:36 PM
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Rodin template

@ morpher

J. L. Naudin has a nice diagram of the 360 degree layout for the coil here:

JLN Labs - TEP Project - Rodin coil test

It is used here in a video demonstration:

YouTube - How to build a rodin coil part 1

For more info as to why it's wrapped this way, go here:

Vortex Based Mathematics - Marko Rodin - Home

Good luck and happy winding! I bet you beat my attempts at doing it.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:28 PM
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re: rodin wiring table...

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Good luck and happy winding! I bet you beat my attempts at doing it.
Yes I found those URLs ... but still no details about wiring.
So what I did was take that image, wrote my own numbers
around the 10 degrees, and started to think about the way Jamie
has wired it up -- with two circuits: 9, 18, 27 turns, etc.

I see others wire with 3 wires together .. with a 3rd wire either
NOT connected or just plastic empty of wire.

So I wasn't clear on which approach is best ... or if they are both worth experimenting with.

Also, I was looking for a more detailed explanation of why you need 9, 18, 27 turns ... since it seems to me that if you are trying to achieve a certain inductance, being restricted to multiples of 9 is an impairment .. unless there is a good reason -- beyond numerology -- for this.

Also, MUST the shape be a toroid? Can a person wire this using a LOOP form -- like a hula hoop. You end up with what they call in the art world
a "gods eye", -- more of a flat pancake style coil -- but I would imagine it would have all the same wonderful spinning magnetic field properties -- perhaps more in a widened cone shape above, however.

Small wire gauges are no good if you want to pump in lots of power and keep resistance down and heat low. So this implies a BIG donut shape.
Those fisher price plastic thingies are $6 USD or so.
I was thinking an ART store with "wreath" styrofoam or wood might be cheaper. Don't rob a kid of some important learning toy. :-)

The geometry of torus shapes can be complex as well. Must the
tubular cylinder be a perfect circle?
When you buy POWER toroid transformers, some are actually a squarish geometry which results in straight easy-to-wind wires and probably contains the magnetic field better. The Rodin coil wants a field .. wants it to BURST out of the shape. The Power is put to the field itself.

Some thoughts on Jamie's videos...

1. Nassim's suggesting about comparing to a standard coil is a good one .... BUT ... its sort of apples to oranges ... because the Rodin coil is all about "field" creation whereas other toroid coils are more about creating optimum transformers ... or optimum shunts, etc. So I think what should be demoed are various things you can do with this field ... which is an unexplored territory -- at least in the commercial sector.

2. Plastic donut shapes are not hard enough and you have an air coil... So if your intention is to create a magnetic field that spins, OMG, lets add some ferro material in the mix. You would be amazed how much stronger a field you can SPIN. I think spinning say ONE TESLA ... would be pretty dramatic. Although for this experiment you would need to remove from the room ALL metal objects ... and keep everyone away BEFORE you turn the sucker on. You would need a large shape, and larger gauge wire.
I was thinking more like an auto TIRE that you get from a junk yard ... and 18 AWG or greater.
That youtube video would go viral...

3. The speaker demo is fun ... and yes you can probably produce a speaker that is smaller in geometry with less magnetic material inside. Bose might be interested...

4. Nassium has an animation for TWO toroids. Perhaps the notion of two Rodin coils facing each other ... might be something to experiment with. The Tesla switch notion of energy passing back and forth between two circuits -- a left and a right -- might be of interest.
If it is true that once the field gets going, it has momentum and can kind of coast with less power ... and other spins can augment it ... as Jamie attempts to demonstrate with his magnet tops -- perhaps replacing those tops with OTHER Rodin coils ... might provide a way to PULL power from a central field creator coil.

I'm just brainstorming here ... lots of possibilities with this thing I think.
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A simple winding guide.

Hi Just adding my simple winding guide..

You have Wire1 (1-7-4), Wire2 (2-5-8) and Wire3 (The Extra-dimentional 3-6-9).

Follow the numbers and you cant go wrong.. Easy.

Does not address how many "wraps" to use.

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wire guide clarification

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Hi Just adding my simple winding guide..
You have Wire1 (1-7-4), Wire2 (2-5-8) and Wire3 (The Extra-dimentional 3-6-9).
Follow the numbers and you cant go wrong.. Easy.
Does not address how many "wraps" to use.
Cheers..
I messed around a bit trying to do it and quickly got confused.
If you have a PIN at some number say, you have a choice when wiring of putting the wire on the left side of that pin, always, or on the right side of the pin, or 3rdly on whichever side feels arbitrarily the most comfortable.

After wiring it around and around, I started to see the pattern better ... and so what needs to be clarified here is that you place the wire ALWAYS to the right of the numbered PIN (when that pin is pointed UP as you hold the coil in your hand). Lay each subsequent turn to the right of the previous turn... and so on.

I suppose you could always put it on the left side of the pin and go the opposite way too if you were left brained and not right brained.

Don't, however, make that choice arbitrarily on each pin...like I first did.
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As a Tesla Coil?

Hehe Morpher44,

You've got it now though! See you learn these practical things when you give it a go..

I have mentioned in a previous post here about winding a RC on a large hoola hoop or something similar. Maybe a monster truck inner tube! Lol.
However maybe a regular car tyre's inner tube will do me for now..

More interesting thing for me is to see what happens (if anything) if these Rodin coils can be used in a Tesla coil circuits, either as a primary coil, a seconday or perhaps both. Maybe even as an "extra coil" Hmm... Need to start winding.. Could be quite interesting..?

Has anyone here tried this before?

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Rodin B fields

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More interesting thing for me is to see what happens (if anything) if these Rodin coils can be used in a Tesla coil circuits, either as a primary coil, a seconday or perhaps both. Maybe even as an "extra coil" Hmm... Need to start winding.. Could be quite interesting..?
One Tesla is equal to a newton per ampere-meter.
So I think for a very nice B-field effect around the Rodin coil,
you are interested in current to the coil not high voltage.
Just a hunch.

So the "chopper" for a Tesla coil could be utilized to directly power
your Rodin coil -- instead of a Tesla coil primary.

Take care not to put too much current in so as to MELT your
wires ...

If you think about where all the wires are going and apply the right-hand rule, you can start to mentally visualize how the magnetic fields will arrange into a vortex.

With pulsed DC, you can make the spin occur in a single direction.
Someone noticed that if you alter the duty cycle (dc offset),
that you can alter the PULL the occurs so that it is off-center
in the Rodin coil. So a 50% duty-cycle will keep your magnetic
vortex centered.

On the outer circumference of the coil will be a SPIN that goes around its periphery.

If you use AC to the coil, the vortex and spin will spin left, then right, and possibly manifest on the back side vs. the front side, etc.

With high voltage, low current to the Rodin, something different might happen such as a more subtle electrostatic fields or something. Not sure.
Experiment experiment experiment...
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Rodin Coil from Tuna Can Cylinder

Here is my first attempt with the Rodin Coil.

YouTube - Rodin Coil From Tuna Can Cylinder

I used a cylinder (Tuna can).
With ferromagnetic material in the coil, there is a dampened oscillation, as the field spins, long after the pulse was provided. Fascinating!!!
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Rodin Ringing...

Here are some more detailed measurements.

Pulse width is approx 70usec.
Each pulse arrives 760usec.
Duty cycle is approx 9%.

Dampened oscillation has 4.8usec cycle width -- not sure why yet...
Diameter of can is approx. 99mm (*quick ruler measurement*)
Circumference 311mm.

Wavelength across diameter would estimate to be 330picometers or
3Ghz or so.
Wavelength around circumference would estimate to be 964.6Mhz
(1.0366 nanometers).

So I guess I looking for an explanation for why I see 4.8usec oscillation.
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Spin Circumference?

Ok... I have a guess as to what dynamics are at play here for this dampened oscillation.

With low current, I see an oscillation of about 4.8uSec per cycle.
Boosting the current up a bit, I see an oscillation more in the
range of 4.6uSec.

This could mean that the shape of the vortex is changing with the change in current.

With low current, 4.8uSec, we have 1440 meters traveled approx.
With higher current, 4.6uSec, we have 1380 meters traveled.
So as the field intensifies, is larger, the spin circumference
narrows as would be found with NMR -- Lamor precession.

Anyone know physics well enough to know if this is the case?
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Proton magnetogyric ratio

Proton magnetogyric ratio = 42.576 Hz/μT (also written 42.576 MHz/T or 0.042576 Hz/nT)

4.8usec is approx 4.89millTesla magnetic field strength

4.6usec is approx 5.11millTesla magnetic field strength

I guess to confirm this is the case, I would need a very
precise Gauss meter or something. This does seem believable though.
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Rodin squeeze/expand idea...

I have an interesting idea here ...

The so called "right-hand rule" indicates the direction of the magnetic field relative to the current in a wire.
It also indicates the Force vector direction.
Around the Rodin coil we have a magnetic field that forms
a vortex or cylinder shape.
The Force vector can alternately "squeeze" your coil or
"expand" it, depending upon current flow.
This has interesting implications with respect to
piezoelectric materials or Casimir effects on capacitors.

Just throwing that idea out there in case someone wants
to noodle over that for a bit.
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Rodin Coil and Bedini SSG

I've seen others hook up Rodin coils to the Bedini SSG and use
a spinning magnet.

With a coil constructed with ferromagnetic material, why bother
with something that spins other than just the magnetic field?
Who needs all that noise and inertia, wasting power?

YouTube - Rodin Coil used with Bedini SSG

Yes, you don't have a nice fan blowing on you, or a nice motor
to watch ... but perhaps you can use the magnetic field to make
monopoles as your batteries charge. :-)
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