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Old 07-27-2009, 05:15 PM
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The Pyrazo circuit.

http://www.pyrazo.com/

I found this one peswiki today and thought it would benefit having its thread here so people can talk about it.

I'm limited to basic circuitery so I don't really understand how to follow the circuit. But I guess the base is that it's a Tesla receiver which can be tuned to a lot of outside transmitters whatever they may be.

Now there's no data available yet which shows how much power this can harness but I assume that will come soon.

The interesting part is that he says it could also attract photons or EM waves. This reminds me of an interview with one of Tesla's assistant quoted below:

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Another fearful fantastic idea which Tesla developed with Sanford was his dark idea. This would also prevent wars. But would it? I believe that this could also be used to make war because the equipment could be carried in an airplane and it would float over a city and put it to dark. Not a bit of light anywhere would show. This is, to me, a most fearful idea. You turn on a switch and everything goes dark. There would be no electric lights, no lights in your car, your headlights would not show, if you strike a match it would burn but it would not show any light. No form of light whatever, instantly, the moment the switch is closed. So then Tesla said that if war started and the switch was turned on, the war would not be able to continue because nobody would be able to see. I wonder how it would be? I wonder if it would ever be used? Can you imagine what would happen in a big city, say at noontime, suddenly, not a pick of light anywhere; the sun would suddenly die out. Headlights of cars would not turn on and so it would be a terrible mess. And this apparatus, according to Tesla, could be put to work and control whole nations, either a city, or a village, a town, or the whole nation. All of America, all of Canada, of a press of a button. Is it a good idea? I really don't know.
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Very interesting.

I did not care for Sterling's article at all... He was trying to suggest that "60 Hz line power" was what powered Moray's device and Tesla's Pierce Arrow.

Wrong.

Moray operated the device more than 30 miles from any power lines (without any attenuation), and once even under water. What ever provided the up to 50 kW of output, it was NOT power lines. And i have no idea where he got that "5.54 MHz" number as the operating F... Reports i saw said it output around "6 kHz" which apparently does give the same white glow as was reported with the incandescents that Moray often used for showing output.

Also, Tesla was said to have driven the Pierce Arrow in the country quite a bit, as well as the city... And in those days there were very few power lines in the country.

Directory:Pyrazo Device - PESWiki

But there may be some interesting similarities, at least on the surface. It would be great to have Moray's son give his opinion on this circuit. I heard that last year, while he was promoting his DVD, that he did post on a forum and answered some Q's. But i don't know which forum. He is quite elderly now.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:19 AM
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This circuit has very little to do with Sterling's opinion, so why don't you relax a bit.

And you don't need a son of anyone to do your thinking. If you want to progress you do it yourself.
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Lol don't worry Broli i'm taking my meds

No one has progressed on Moray's circuit (at least openly) in 70 years. So perhaps pure experimentation may not be the best route there, and researching the information available may do better, or at least point the way

As for this particular circuit, i suspect it is a puter sim done as a basic concept and has not yet been built. That's not dis-ing it, just mentioning.

And why it would matter if Sterling dismisses Moray's device as "close coupled inductance" or a similar way of "stealing 60 Hz power" is this:

Of all the devices and inventors, Moray is probably the only one they have never been able to debunk. There were lots of peeps who tried, and who claimed it was the above (C-C I or some other method of "stealing line power") at the time. But they always failed miserably in showing that... And Moray calmly let them try out anything they wanted. Lol it was highly frustrating for the skeptics.

So when that didn't work, and the threats and actually shooting him didn't work, they just ignored & suppressed and made sure that very few people today even know he existed.

So now, someone just can't sneak in such a suggestion in a published article (with nothing to back it), and give some of the people reading it who are not familiar with Moray's work the impression that his device was not "legitimate"... Because once any mention of "60 Hz line power" is made, "Foget About It", it loses all credibility.

This is a serious game we are playing here, Broli. It has to do with perceptions and manipulating them; and we are up against past-masters. If we expect to change public opinion about these technologies, we need to be as smart & tough as they are; because there really are those out there who want to discredit everything and everybody even remotely related to this subject: It's their job. And the way to counter it imo is to meet every challenge as they pop up. Which means if the "traffic" is heavy on some days, i post a lot and piss some peeps off, lol.

I am not claiming Sterling is a "dis-info agent"; there are other legitimate reasons to explain what he has wrote (he is known to sometimes let his own wild assumptions come out despite the facts). I personally like the guy.

... But he is clearly wrong about Moray
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Hello all,

@jibbguy

you mentioned 6 kHz as the output frequency. The same output frequency has a TPU.

Of course we are NOT talking about power lines. Its about hmmmm.....not easy to say.....it seems that the "big guys" - Tesla, Moray.....got the energy for their devices from the "air" that is all around us.

For myself I can say that I get the energy for my TPU from clouds. But the clouds a lot of miles away! Hmmm....not easy to wright this down. I see that this clouds are "charging" my TPU and the connected bulb "discharges" the TPU. A video would be needed to show you all what Im talking about but I dont have a camera, sorry.

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One very interesting thing that Moray once said, which could someday be significant as a "clue" (if we ever figure out what it meant), was that the device outputted slightly more power in the day, than at night.
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Pyrazo Circuit

I just received this information on the Pyrazo Circuit today and was asked to post it. This is supposedly from the inventor of the Pyrazo Circuit. I contacted him and asked for this information about a year ago.

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Hello,

I would like to point out all of the technical challenges with the pyrazo circuit that must be overcome to get the device to work. If you can, I would like you to share this information with anyone you know who has an interest in the device.

1.) Unlike Moray, it won't work with with cold tubes. Moray's tubes contained radioactive elements and therefore did not need a heater element. While it is possible to obtained radioactive Krytrons, they are watched because of their use in triggers for the explosives used in the "fat man" style nuclear weapons and the process of obtaining them is a lengthy one. This is no problem, because hot cathode tubes can be used and the heaters can be powered from a car battery that will be replenished by the output of the device. Make sure that the voltage and amperage going into the heater elements matches the specifications for the tube that you choose to use.

2.) The tubes should be rated for the frequency that you are trying to absorb. This information is commonly available on the internet in the specification for the tube type.

3.) Choose an EM radiation source of a fixed frequency. Good sources are: 60Hz high voltage power lines (used by Tesla), AM radio stations (much to the FCC's chagrin), or a rich band of ionospheric vibration (used by Moray, 5.454 MHz if his 87' antenna is an indication, but there are many others.) Without a targeted energy source, the device will produce no energy. The device does not create or destroy energy, it merely transfers it.

4.) If you are using audio transformers to capture 60Hz energy, be sure that they aren't designed to filter out that frequency. Some are.

5.) Choose transformers that are capable of working with the frequency that you are targeting. (E.g. an audio transformer will not work for frequencies in the MHz range.)

6.) Right on the other side of the timing circuit isolation transformer, you may have to protect whatever timing circuit you are using from the voltage spikes that come back from the pulse transformer. Two reversed biased zener diodes, facing opposite directions, and connected to each other on one side, and connected to each side of the secondary of the isolation transformer on the other side will work for this.
They should be arranged like this: T---|>Z----Z<|---T where the T represents the leads of the secondary of the isolation transformer.

7.) On the timing circuit, it is best to use op amps to refine the signal and from those, output a voltage and amperage that will properly drive the switching of the tubes.

8.) The timing circuit must filter the frequency to just the targeted frequency. The presence of other frequencies will greatly diminish the power of the device. Fortunately Lo-pass filters should be sufficient, and might be preferable as bandpass filters will absorb more of the needed signal.

9.) The output of the secondary of the isolation transformer does not have a ground plane. When using op amps to filter and amplify this output, you should use the differential configurations with your op amp.

10.) Most EM sources will barely get their signal through the isolation transformer. It will have to be both amplified AND filtered. This presents a technical challenge. Most op amp filters designs you will find combine a passive filter with a standard op amp amplifier configuration. This will not work in most cases. If the passive filter comes first, then it will likely squash out what little signal gets through the isolation transformer. If you put the amplifier first, then noise will also likely squash out the signal. The best configuration to use is one that has the filter built into the feedback portion of the op amp circuit, and remember, this also has to be a differential configuration because of the lack of ground plane.
Here is an example of such a differential lo-pass op amp circuit with the filter built into the feedback portion:
http://www.chrisangove.com/ee_ref/graphics/lpf2.jpg

11.) It is also good to use an op amp circuit for the necessary pi/2 phase shifting of the signal to drive the interrupt and shunt switches.

12.) Remember when driving the tubes in parallel or series, to keep your math on the voltage and amperage straight, and match them to the specifications of the tubes. Same goes for the heater circuit.

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One last thing...

Using the op amps with the built in filter means that you do not require another filter such as the tank circuit depicted in the diagrams. All timing and tuning is handled on the other side of the isolation transformer by the op amp/lo-pass filter circuit.
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One very interesting thing that Moray once said, which could someday be significant as a "clue" (if we ever figure out what it meant), was that the device outputted slightly more power in the day, than at night.
The ionospheric vibrations shift from day to night. By changing the targeted frequency, you could maintain nearly the same energy.

Here is a graph of the spectrum at one point in the day:
http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/sp.gif

Moray, also, did not rectify the energy. For the modern hobbyist, this should provide no challenge with the components we are able to obtain these days.

I believe that Tesla did not invent his own device completely, but had heard of the concept from Moray and proceeded to make very brilliant improvements on it.

It would be fun to see someone build an audio amplification version of the receiver such as Moray reportedly had in his home. This was reportedly able to detect sounds from miles away. It would theoretically boost the reception of the sound by absorbing more of the sound energy, and might also work as a silencing machine. (I am reminded of the lyrics to "Mr. Self Destruct") Something useful for making the highways more quiet, or even individual cars.
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Thanks for all you have shared Macchendra!!

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The ionospheric vibrations shift from day to night. By changing the targeted frequency, you could maintain nearly the same energy.

Here is a graph of the spectrum at one point in the day:
http://home.netcom.com/~sbyers11/sp.gif

Moray, also, did not rectify the energy. For the modern hobbyist, this should provide no challenge with the components we are able to obtain these days.

I believe that Tesla did not invent his own device completely, but had heard of the concept from Moray and proceeded to make very brilliant improvements on it.

It would be fun to see someone build an audio amplification version of the receiver such as Moray reportedly had in his home. This was reportedly able to detect sounds from miles away. It would theoretically boost the reception of the sound by absorbing more of the sound energy, and might also work as a silencing machine. (I am reminded of the lyrics to "Mr. Self Destruct") Something useful for making the highways more quiet, or even individual cars.
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On Tesla and Moray...

Tesla's powered an AC motor, and there were high voltage power lines between Niagara and Buffalo. (Buffalo being the place where his car allegedly eventually ended up.) Also, he would have needed more tubes for an inverter, so I think it was 60 Hz off of the power lines he helped design.

Moray said that his wouldn't power an electric motor, but if the frequency were as low as 6KHz, he would have known to rectify it and would have had little trouble doing so, and wouldn't have made the motor claim. I have never seen the reference to 6KHz that you are talking about. Also, His antenna was known to be about 87', which would be the length of a dipole for 5.38 MHz: where there's a rich band of ionospheric energy. Also, Moray's source would have decreased at night as he had found.

I don't know that Moray's son would have many answers. His quest for answers has never ended to my knowledge.

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Very interesting.

I did not care for Sterling's article at all... He was trying to suggest that "60 Hz line power" was what powered Moray's device and Tesla's Pierce Arrow.

Wrong.

Moray operated the device more than 30 miles from any power lines (without any attenuation), and once even under water. What ever provided the up to 50 kW of output, it was NOT power lines. And i have no idea where he got that "5.54 MHz" number as the operating F... Reports i saw said it output around "6 kHz" which apparently does give the same white glow as was reported with the incandescents that Moray often used for showing output.

Also, Tesla was said to have driven the Pierce Arrow in the country quite a bit, as well as the city... And in those days there were very few power lines in the country.

Directory:Pyrazo Device - PESWiki

But there may be some interesting similarities, at least on the surface. It would be great to have Moray's son give his opinion on this circuit. I heard that last year, while he was promoting his DVD, that he did post on a forum and answered some Q's. But i don't know which forum. He is quite elderly now.
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Rotating the plane of Polarization and Phase Shift is the Key!

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Attraction of Photons

When this device is used on radio signals, the voltage spike that occurs happens when the nearby photons are at their most polarized, and the spike is oriented such that it might attract these photons.
The Faraday effect causes left and right circularly polarized waves to propagate at slightly different speeds, a property known as circular birefringence. Since a linear polarization can be decomposed into two circularly polarized components, the effect of a relative phase shift, induced by the Faraday effect, is to rotate the orientation of a wave's linear polarization.

Light is a bipolar force with both an attractive and repulsive component that can be controlled. The discovery was made by splitting infrared light into two beams that each travel on a different length of silicon nanowire, called a waveguide. The two light beams became out of phase with one another, creating a push, or repulsive force, with an intensity that can be controlled; the more out of phase the two light beams, the stronger the force. This is an example of repelling the photons, but light is a bipolar force and it can also be used to attract the photons.



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Canceling Wave

The spike that is generated is equivalent to generating a canceling wave. As we know, energy is not created or destroyed by this cancellation, but merely transferred.
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Inductive Coupling

When used on radio signals, the receiving antenna starts generating a canceling wave that matches the broadcasting antenna. This draws in more signal to the receiving antenna than would otherwise intersect the receiving antenna naturally. Eventually the signal follows paths that resemble magnetic lines of force.
An optical diode, is an optical component which allows the transmission of light in only one direction. It is typically used to prevent unwanted feedback into an optical oscillator, such as a laser cavity. The operation of the device depends on the Faraday effect (which in turn is produced by magneto-optic effect), which is used in the main component, the Faraday rotator. A Faraday rotator is an optical device that rotates the polarization of light due to the Faraday effect, which in turn is based on a magneto-optic effect.

The Faraday rotator works because one polarization of the input light is in ferromagnetic resonance with the material which causes its phase velocity to be higher than the other.

The polarization dependent isolator, or Faraday isolator, is made of three parts, an input polarizer (polarized vertically), a Faraday rotator, and an output polarizer, called an analyser (polarized at 45 degrees)

Light travelling in the forward direction becomes polarized vertically by the input polarizer. The Faraday rotator will rotate the polarization by 45 degrees. The analyser then enables the light to be transmitted through the isolator.

Light travelling in the backward direction becomes polarized at 45 degrees by the analyser. The Faraday rotator will again rotate the polarization by 45 degrees. This means the light is polarized horizontally (the rotation is sensitive to direction of propagation). Since the polarizer is vertically aligned, the light will be extinguished.

It might seem at first glance that a device that allows light to flow in only one direction would violate Kirchhoff's law and the second law of thermodynamics, by allowing light energy to flow from a cold object to a hot object and blocking it in the other direction, but the violation is avoided because the isolator must absorb (not reflect) the light from the hot object and will eventually re-radiate it to the cold one. There may be a simple solution to this, "Optical waveguiding using thermal gradients across homogeneous liquids in microfluidic channels".

The above publication describes the design and operation of a liquid-core liquid-cladding (L2) optical waveguide composed of a thermal gradient across a compositionally homogeneous liquid flowing in a microfluidic channel at low Reynolds number. Two streams of liquid at a higher temperature (the cladding) sandwich a stream of liquid at a lower temperature (the core). This temperature difference results in a contrast in refractive index across the width of the channel that is sufficient to guide light. The use of a single homogeneous liquid in this L2 system simplifies recycling, and facilitates closed-loop operation. Furthermore, with radiative and inline heating of the liquids, it should be possible to reconfigure this optical system with considerable flexibility.

Liquids, such as water, can be used as a waveguide for light. The solar death ray can do the heating of the liquids needed for this optical thermal gradient waveguide. By using two waveguides of a different length, then the two light beams will become out-of-phase with each other to create a repulsive force that can be controlled. With the right setup, this can be made into a very powerful system.

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One very interesting thing that Moray once said, which could someday be significant as a "clue" (if we ever figure out what it meant), was that the device outputted slightly more power in the day, than at night.
One of Wheatstone's most ingenious devices was the 'Polar clock,' exhibited at the meeting of the British Association in 1848. It is based on the fact discovered by Sir David Brewster, that the light of the sky is polarised in a plane at an angle of ninety degrees from the position of the sun. It follows that by discovering that plane of polarization, and measuring its azimuth with respect to the north, the position of the sun, although beneath the horizon, could be determined, and the apparent solar time obtained.

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3.) Choose an EM radiation source of a fixed frequency. Good sources are: 60Hz high voltage power lines (used by Tesla), AM radio stations (much to the FCC's chagrin), or a rich band of ionospheric vibration (used by Moray, 5.454 MHz if his 87' antenna is an indication, but there are many others.) Without a targeted energy source, the device will produce no energy. The device does not create or destroy energy, it merely transfers it.
Faraday rotation in the ionosphere

Radio waves passing through the Earth's ionosphere are likewise subject to the Faraday effect. The ionosphere consists of a plasma containing free electrons which contribute to Faraday rotation according to the above equation, whereas the positive ions are relatively massive and have little influence. In conjunction with the earth's magnetic field, rotation of the polarization of radio waves thus occurs.

I've chosen to use the Double Cylindrical Point Focus Principle (DCPF) as my antenna.

"Tesla's Pierce Arrow device and Moray's devices might no longer be lost to history! The bad news is that the plans are not for sale. The good news is that they are posted right on the [web]." -- David Morgan, July 26, 2009

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Wave absorption is the key.

Look at the audio device that Moray had in his house.

It "absorbed" sound from a distance.

If he invented a device that can do this with sound, then it is a fair bet that his radiant energy device did the same with EM waves.

Sound does not have a polar orientation.

God I wish I wasn't so damn broke. Anyone near Plano who has a nice garage lab setup?
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Look at the audio device that Moray had in his house.

It "absorbed" sound from a distance.

If he invented a device that can do this with sound, then it is a fair bet that his radiant energy device did the same with EM waves.

Sound does not have a polar orientation.

God I wish I wasn't so damn broke. Anyone near Plano who has a nice garage lab setup?
Wrong!

Below is a quote from Wiki, saying sound can be polarized in a solid medium.

"For longitudinal waves such as sound waves in fluids, the direction of oscillation is by definition along the direction of travel, so there is no polarization. In a solid medium, however, sound waves can be transverse. In this case, the polarization is associated with the direction of the shear stress in the plane perpendicular to the propagation direction. This is important in seismology."

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Nope. Moray's sound device worked in air, buddy. It still refutes your claim that this has anything to do with polarization.

Your ideas on the matter weren't really helpful. The concept that I'm talking about doesn't need such added complexity.

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Wrong!

Below is a quote from Wiki, saying sound can be polarized in a solid medium.

"For longitudinal waves such as sound waves in fluids, the direction of oscillation is by definition along the direction of travel, so there is no polarization. In a solid medium, however, sound waves can be transverse. In this case, the polarization is associated with the direction of the shear stress in the plane perpendicular to the propagation direction. This is important in seismology."

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Below is a quote from Pyrazo.com in reference to using polarized sound waves.

"Applications of the Device

The device may be used to absorb or amplify signals from any signal source. Specifically, it may be used for: converting ionosphere vibrations to usable energy, absorbing electromagnetic waves off of nearby high-voltage power lines, converting radio signals generated by pulsars, quasars and black holes to usable energy, converting noise pollution to energy, amplifying radio signals, amplifying sounds, absorbing the energy produced by earthquakes, absorbing the vibrations in bridges and large buildings, and much more."

Sound can be polarized in a solid medium, such as from earthquakes, vibrations in bridges and large buildings, etc.

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Look at the audio device that Moray had in his house.

It "absorbed" sound from a distance.

If he invented a device that can do this with sound, then it is a fair bet that his radiant energy device did the same with EM waves.

Sound does not have a polar orientation.

God I wish I wasn't so damn broke. Anyone near Plano who has a nice garage lab setup?
Please contact me.

Also, please refer, to an oversimplified version of a similar circuit from a man I admire very much....

YouTube - Pulling Local Energy Part#2
YouTube - Simple Ways To Tune Coherence Receiver

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Below is a quote from Pyrazo.com in reference to using polarized sound waves.

"Applications of the Device

The device may be used to absorb or amplify signals from any signal source. Specifically, it may be used for: converting ionosphere vibrations to usable energy, absorbing electromagnetic waves off of nearby high-voltage power lines, converting radio signals generated by pulsars, quasars and black holes to usable energy, converting noise pollution to energy, amplifying radio signals, amplifying sounds, absorbing the energy produced by earthquakes, absorbing the vibrations in bridges and large buildings, and much more."

Sound can be polarized in a solid medium, such as from earthquakes, vibrations in bridges and large buildings, etc.

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GravityB,

I like what you post because it brings up an interesting concept (signal modification through static field interaction), but I do not think it applies after further study. By the way, the person you are talking to (Macchendra) is the inventor (perhaps re-inventor (no disrespect intended)) of the circuit in question. (I have thoughts on what you posted, but they do not apply here, if you are interested also please contact me!)

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Nope. Moray's sound device worked in air, buddy. It still refutes your claim that this has anything to do with polarization.

Your ideas on the matter weren't really helpful. The concept that I'm talking about doesn't need such added complexity.
Oh really?

T. H. Moray's Sound Pickup Device.

Below is a quote from the above link on Moray's sound pickup device.

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"There was an old radio box of conventional design with two headphones plugged into the box. Dr Moray tuned the device by turning the knob in front. He handed me one set of headphones and one set to my nephew Mr. Clark Gardner; he then arranged for three people to walk out of the house into the street and carry on a conversation to which we were tuned.

I was sure I was listening to these three men. I remember distinctly it was raining at the time and I could hear the patter of the rain on the pavement as they walked.

I remember them saying they had better hurry back into the house lest they get wet.

In the course of their return, I wondered if I might hear other people talking, and despite the advice of Dr Moray not to fool around with the tuning device, I moved the knob slowly and heard very distinctly the sounds of a railroad station: the whistle of a train, and a porter or the station master at his station saying, "All aboard". The nearest station to the receiving set would have been a minimum of 5 miles."
The sound on the outside was being picked up by Moray's sound device through the propagation of the sound through solid materials, such as through the ground, the walls and windows of the house. Air doesn't penetrate through the walls and windows of a house, especially air from a railroad station a minimum of 5 miles away. The sound propagating through the air from the railroad station 5 miles away would have been dispersed too much by the time it reached Moray's sound device.

However, the speed of propagation of a phonon, which is also the speed of sound in the lattice, can propagate for large distances across the lattice without breaking apart. This is the reason that sound propagates through solids without significant distortion. And guess what? Phonons can be polarized when propagating through solid materials.



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William of Ockham called...

William of Ockham called, he wants to give you a shave.

But seriously, you'd have to do more than re-orient the polarity of the photon to divert it's path.

And also, I want people to grasp the fundamentals of the device before we start throwing complicating theory around. Too much noise, ya know. KISS
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Proprietary, eh? Well, I'm sure he's grateful for y'all's hard work. :-/

Parametric is nice, but imagine now a feedback loop such as the one in the Pyrazo circuit. The signal will come through the primary of the transformer used for pulsing, then right at its peak in one direction, the current through the primary is interrupted, causing the fields to collapse, and causing a voltage spike in the secondary. This spike is then routed through the primary again in the other direction, which makes for an even more dramatic change in the primary's fields which is effectively a feedback loop of inductive kick.

This pulse is aligned with the signal so that it effectively pulls the signal with the same spike. Effectively, it is broadcasting a cancelling signal.

Without the feedback loop of inductive kick, it would be no more interesting than the coupled induction they are doing over at MIT.

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Also, please refer, to an oversimplified version of a similar circuit from a man I admire very much....

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William of Ockham called, he wants to give you a shave.

But seriously, you'd have to do more than re-orient the polarity of the photon to divert it's path.

And also, I want people to grasp the fundamentals of the device before we start throwing complicating theory around. Too much noise, ya know. KISS
The noise is coming from you. You said sound doesn't have a polar orientation. Obviously wrong and was a bunch of noise. You said Moray's sound device worked in air, when sound propagating through the air for 5 miles would have been dispersed before it ever had a chance to reach Moray's sound device (How can you not accept this fact?). I provided references to how sound can be polarized and can propagate over long distances through a lattice without breaking apart, without becoming dispersed, and without becoming distorted. I've shown through real world experimentation how the photon can be diverted in it's path (You obviously didn't put the pieces together).

I've provided overwhelming evidence to Moray's device working on the principals of an energy source which is polarized, regardless if the energy source is electromagnetic waves or sound waves. Moray's device is good at night, where it uses an energy source which is already polarized. There is a better method during the day-time though. That method is to use and amplify direct sun-light with a parabolic antenna or a DCPF antenna, then polarize it along with other things I have already mentioned. Everything I have said, has been backed up by references (no noise here on my part).

Good luck with the fundamentals of Moray's device, since you're basing it on wrong assumptions, wrong observations, and wrong theories. Also, I wish you good luck with your 87' antenna (and you say my concept is complicated, lol). Jibbguy said, "No one has progressed on Moray's circuit (at least openly) in 70 years". This should tell you that it's not just a simple circuit or concept (although I don't believe what I'm saying is overly-complicated to grasp either, it's just outside your current understanding).

As a side note to All: A flying saucer could be described as having two parabolic dishes facing each other. The two parabolic dishes could be sharing the same focal point. Also, the parabolic dishes can be ran in reverse, where an energy source can be located at the focal point, and this energy source is reflected out in a parallel fashion, like a spotlight, but in a controlled way to provide thrust in a particular direction.

Did you guys see the video on how two parabolic mirrors facing each other creates a 3-D hologram image on the outside? Now that is wicked cool!

Do we want free energy or do we want to get off this rock? We could have both if it wasn't for the noise. Thank God sound doesn't propagate in a vacuum.

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Go away

Dude, you contribute nothing, go away.

Sound would not disperse over 5 miles. The sound energy would follow the path of least resistance which is toward pairing with the cancellation wave: just as the electromagnetic energy follows paths that resemble magnetic lines of force.

There is no more "progress" needed on the design of the device. Anyone who wants can build it right now from the information I have provided. If you have your own theories of device, then please go ahead and start your own thread and get off of mine.

You have not stated one word on how the polarization would alter the path of the photons or phonons. How would it? Unless the path of these "particles" would be altered, the device would not receive more energy than what would normally intersect the antenna and that would then be proportional to the inverse of the distance squared.

And then you go mentioning some completely unrelated device and unrelated theory of something else. You have a completely unrelated side note? Put it on your own damn thread.

On a side note, gravityblock, I curse you. And I do this publicly so the scandal feedback loop will do the rest for me. You can join the dozens of others who have witnessed that whole other space-time effect that follows me around, including Moray and Tesla. I'm glad for it and regret it not one little bit with you.

You can take this up with Mr. Gardner a few years from now. I'm sure he'd be happy to devote a few years to discuss it with you.
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Here is the effect I describe...

Here is the effect I describe...

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Re: wrong assumptions, wrong observations, and wrong theories

By the way, while are the goofy folk were running around claiming that it just had to be the radioactivity, I was the only one to connect the audio device to the principle of the radiant energy device.

(And between myself and Mr. Gardner, the one out of the garden and both of us abductee lab rats from our teens, we have the rest of the tech too, including the proper leedskalnin spacetime expansion/compression device, the means of using this to create spacetime density bubbles for antigravity, dark matter/energy radio transceivers and all the other tech that was "suppressed" by mysterious coincidences of fate. Oh, the mystery of anarchy is our Ouroboros.)

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hello again

I am creating another causality loop, check your messages, or email.

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