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Hi everyone,
This thread is dedicated to the heater method by Rosemary Ainslie. I hope to see some replication attempts. I'm pasting a message from Peter that he posted in another thread below - it comes from this thread: Rosemary Ainslie | A Magnetic Field Model This is the schematic that is proven to work - USE THIS: WATCH THIS VIDEO FIRST YouTube - Quantum Magazine 555 Circuit Test on Rosemary Ainslie's COP 17 Heater Circuit ![]() Tune the circuit to resonance for highest gain - it will go into high speed self oscillation when increasing gate resistance but you need to play with the duty cycle and frequency. Here is a pic of what it should look like: ![]() TAKE NOTE: The 1N4007 diode across the load inductive resistor is OPTIONAL. It shows how to get more charge back to the front battery, etc... However, the biggest gains are WITHOUT that diode. The above schematic does NOT show the diode. If you use the diode, you get more battery charging on the front battery and less heat. Without, you get greatest heat and less charging on the front battery. ------------------------------------------ This thread is full of skeptical nonsense. I always welcome questions and comments but when invalid points that are completely fabricated, false, made up, fraud, etc... WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN THIS THREAD. They will be deleted and anyone contributing to this nonsense may be removed from the forum. Just so you know, here are a few skeptical claims made by supposed experts:
Anyway, enjoy and make sure to look at my notes above and take that schematic and build it. A builder's group will be posted soon... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Below is a post from Peter - he brought this technology to my awareness. His circuit below is something to be tested thoroughly after Rosemary's circuit is replicated. Aaron, Thanks for re-invigorating this older thread. I was about to start a new thread about Rosemary's work. I have also posted her major contributions to a new page on my site at: Free Energy | Rosemary Ainslie On this page, I have collected her papers and put them all in simple, downloadable PDF files, for ease of handling. This material clearly shows how to build an electric heating device that produces 17 times more heat than the "equivalent" amount of electricity. It accomplishes this by using a resistive heating element that also has inductive properties, and by "recycling" the energy of the inductive collapse. Rosemary's original test circuit is shown in the article she tried to have published in a "refereed" scientific journal, but the submission was always rejected. In the last 5 months, I have had extensive email correspondence, and numerous telephone conversations with Rosemary, who lives in South Africa. After studying her work, I was absolutely thrilled with her discovery of the super-efficient heating effect. In mid-February of this year, I proposed to her an "idealized" schematic of her DC resonance circuit to produce the effects she had discovered. That circuit diagram is here: ![]() Based on the circuits and work done in the Electric Motor Secrets thread, this circuit should be easy enough to understand. For those that do not understand it, I will describe its function in a later post. There are broad implications connected with the proper understanding of the functions of this circuit. We all owe Rosemary Ainslie a deep debt of gratitude, both for her discoveries, and for her willingness to publish her results for the betterment of Science and the human condition. Peter Last edited by Aaron : 08-10-2009 at 12:28 AM. Reason: correction about the quantum article |
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Get all the docs
I'd recommend going here:
Free Energy | Rosemary Ainslie Download ALL the docs and read through them first. |
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Electric Heater with COP>20
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OK, Here is an explanation of the schematic diagram above, for the creation of an Electric Heater with a COP>20. PS = the Power Supply. This is the Primary Supply of energy to the circuit. Any NEW ENERGY required to run the circuit must come from here. It can be a battery, or any source of DC current. RL = the heating element (load) that has the electrical characteristics of both resistance and inductance. Electrically, the component is operated as an INDUCTOR to be charged and discharged in sequence. C = a Capacitor of sufficient capacitance to act as a secondary power supply to power the circuit and to act as a reservoir to receive the energy returned by the inductive collapse of RL. D1 = a Diode to make sure that energy can only move in one direction, in this case, FROM the power supply TO the capacitor. This component prevents any of the energy returning from the inductive collapse from traveling all the way back to the primary power supply. So, in operation, this Diode will allow the Capacitor C to rise to a voltage that is higher than PS, but it will never allow C to drop to a voltage below PS. SHUNT1 = a low value, calibrated resistor used to measure the currents leaving the Power Supply PS. Current pulses measured here, times the voltage of PS, represent ALL of the energy the circuit is "dissipating". Q1 = a Power MOSFET, or any appropriate switching device to allow currents to magnetize the inductive load RL. This includes all of the timing circuitry for the circuit's proper function. D2 = a Diode to complement Q1, to allow currents from C to energize the load RL. D3 + D4 = Diodes to direct the energy of the inductive collapse of RL back to Capacitor C so this energy may be re-used. SHUNT2 = a low value, calibrated resistor used to measure the currents supplied from C (through Q1 and D2) to the load RL. Current pulses measured here, times the voltage of the Capacitor C, represent ALL of the energy supplied to the load RL. The circuit is designed to operate in the following manner. Q1 is timed to produce current pulses which magnetize RL and then shut off, based on the inductive "current rise-time" of the component. The exact timing of this depends on the inductance of RL and the voltage of the Power Supply. RL then discharges as an inductor through Diodes D3 and D4 back to Capacitor C. This represents "one cycle" of the circuit. As soon as this cycle is completed, the process repeats. ![]() RL is meant to be a Resistor Element made of NiChrome Wire, wrapped in a spiral shape around a ceramic frame, as pictured above. Every time there is both voltage and current present at RL, heat is produced. This includes both when currents are being supplied by Capacitor C and when currents are being returned to Capacitor C. Since the inductance of RL does not change during this charge and discharge cycle, the total amount of energy capable of being recovered from the inductive collapse should be on the order of 95% of the amount of energy supplied, during each cycle. In this situation, currents can be supplied to RL and returned to C rapidly, with very little "real energy" lost to the circuit. Any energy that is actually dissipated, such as voltage drops on the switching devices (Q1, D2, D3, and D4), will be made up for by energy provided by the Primary Power Supply PS. This "schematic" is provided without specific values, and is meant to provide a theoretical basis for understanding how an Electric Heater with a COP>20 could work. Peter Last edited by Peter Lindemann : 06-02-2009 at 05:10 PM. |
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This Is The Best There Is!
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I am going to take this opportunity to propose as to leave ALL threads free of doubts with different peoples views on all subjects and all threads, a new thread, just to air, all topics what ever, and keep active constructural threads free. This is something that I have been thinking of for some time, lets call it THE AIRING THREAD, for a better name, I will start it now. Sorry Aaron, I think your number came up in the lottery for me to air an opportunitive bug of mine and I hope you agree with the AIRING THREAD, could be fun, without obstructing the real work Mike |
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written before peters post, posted after
The post above I wrote before I read peters post and was posted before I read it. @Peter realy cop 20! I can not wait to build this, if it is true, and with what I know of heat transfer, we could make a fantastic heat engine, and I am not being sarcastic
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COP>20 is a GOAL
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It sounds like your heat exchangers are fantastic. The idea of a COP>20 is based on being able to "recycle" 95% of the electricity in the circuit. This is feasible when the inductance is constant, which it is in this case, and operating voltages are above 60 volts. Rosemary Ainslie's original circuit produced COP>17 in actual tests. If you haven't already read the documents linked at my site, please do. In the Electric Motor Secrets thread, I showed how to produce mechanical energy while recycling the electricity. In the thread with Imhotep, we showed how to light fluorescent lights while recycling the electricity. Now, here, I am showing Rosemary Ainslie's method to produce heat while recycling the electricity. This completes the "GENERAL CASE" of how to use electricity efficiently, first described by Nikola Tesla, and referred to by Gabriel Kron as "shuttle circuits". The real method to produce Heat, Light, and Motive Power, at efficiencies above the supposed limits described by the Laws of Thermodynamics, is now fully in the Public Domain. God Bless you all! Peter Last edited by Peter Lindemann : 06-02-2009 at 05:08 PM. |
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This is very interesting
Hi Peter
I am going to try this out as I have other things which I did in the past which would naturally benifit from this. If you want to read my patent on this the number is EP0385700. It is used all over the world, it is probably in your house Well we all have to earn a living If this does come up to spec: we could make a heat engine which would only need a start up input and after would run on its output with considerable excess energy. Mike Last edited by Michael John Nunnerley : 06-03-2009 at 02:58 PM. |
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I Do Not Agree
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I do not agree with your previous post and do not wish to comment on it here. Please feel free to remove all parts of Post #7 that are "off topic" and start a different thread. This thread is about Rosemary Ainslie's astonishing contributions to Science, and related developments. Peter |
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What I will use initially.
Take a look at the following link and comments are welcome. I am now using this method to test the excess heat. At the end of the day I will add some comment and RL specs. I think this will be a little better arrangement than open air testing.
http://67.76.235.52/Ainslie/ExHeatExp.htm Thanks |
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Hi folks, I have a question that maybe someone could answer about the nichrome wire. I have tried pulsing a 10 watt wire wound w/ the small copper coil inside and get around 30 millivolts in a cap and have tried the nichrome element from inside a hair dryer and get even less than that. So is there a certain kind of nichrome wire to use with more inductance or maybe a resistor that can be bought at the shack or somewhere, or would using an inductor and resistor in series do the same job. oh and yes im using diodes for the flyback. thanks
peace love light Last edited by SkyWatcher : 06-03-2009 at 06:06 AM. |
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Hi folks, ran some tests that I thought some might find useful. I used the circuit shown in the pdf where the title is " Counter electromotive force enables overunity results in electric systems" from Peter L. website. except instead of a mosfet I used an npn tans. with a diode across emitter/collector.
I also used an inductor from a high end car audio cross over network with a 200 milliohm resistance in series with a 1 ohm 10 watt wire wound resistor with copper coil inside. well i assume its copper i opened one up and it looks like copper to me and has no attraction to a neo magnet. and it was pulsed with a 555 timer @ 650 Hz. and a 32% duty cycle. I ran a few tests and found that the voltage when running the tests without the flyback diode connected to the positive of battery/resistor leg dropped the battery voltage much quicker, but when the flyback diode is connected it holds a higher voltage and recovers its unloaded voltage better also, so its definitely getting positive feedback. Then i ran a crude finger test holding the bottom of the resistor with my thumb and timed how fast it takes to heat the resistor till it becomes to hot for my thumb to touch. after 3 tests without the fly back diode output attached to positive leg it took about 46 seconds before i had to remove my thumb and of course with identical cooling periods in between. Then i ran 3 tests with the flyback diode connected and it took 25 seconds to reach the same temperature where my thumb cant stand to touch the resistor any longer and with identical cooling periods in between, that is about 54% less time needed to reach the same temperature. So it appears that this setup is not only feeding energy back to the battery but also is increasing the heat output in the resistor and over time and using a calorimeter would confirm Rosemary Ainslie's results. peace love light ![]() |
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The THUMB Rules!
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Thanks for that quick "rule of thumb" test. It looks like all of the basic behaviors showed up in your test; that is, almost twice the heat AND some portion of the electricity conserved. Thanks for sharing your little test. I hope this encourages other experimenters to look seriously at this discovery, and do some well instrumented tests. Peter |
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A continuation from another thread.....
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I am very surprised nobody posted this sooner. This is a good starting spot, however you can do away with many diodes, along with allowing the resistive element to be separated from the inductive element resulting in greater amp draw in shorter time periods. (ie reducing the L/R time constant) which will result in an increase in energy output vs time. In such a scheme, the inductor charges at a low resistance, and discharges at a high resistance. Proportions are important. It is harder to see how increase in frequency literally translates to an increase in energy, however circuits such as these make it very apparent. What you have essentially created is a "one way" tank circuit, And points directly to the physical reason as to why capacitance reduces Q in a circuit, and Inductance Increases it. (notice how all the big boys in the Tesla Coil clubs space their secondary windings) Here again it is stated that keeping inductance's stable (capacitance's as well) is important otherwise you will experience bifurcations of the oscillatory currents. Unless you are injecting energy directly into the system parametrically through this method (in which case exact frequency is important), it is generally detrimental. This applies to all forms of transducers in this category. What you have been shown is essentially half of what is needed in order to have complete the energy cycle ending in the same form of power out you put in. i.e electrical - electrical, or mechanical to mechanical. The second half of the system is the easy part, and constitutes general transducers transforming energy back to its original form. What you end with is an oscillation between forms of energy, (as in electrical, mechanical, back to electrical, back to mechanical etc.) Im actually kind of disappointed Dr. Lindeman had to point out the similarities, its more fun when the cat lets itself out of the bag. and people connect the dots on their own, but its all good. Take care all, and may you all realize your potential. (as if its finite, ha ha ha) P.S, |
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Hi folks, It was my pleasure Peter L. doing these simple tests.
Hi Petersone, I do not have a signal generator although I remember seeing a video where it had square wave output and sine output, so I would imagine if you only have sine output just put one diode on the output to create dc pulses. peace love light |
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@ Armagdn03,
Thanks for this fascinating post, I hope you're not planning on leaving us already... I have been thinking about the resonance motor for quite a while. Maybe it would be worthwhile to start a new thread on that. But to stay on topic here, could you expand a little bit on the effects of the L/R ratios in resonant circuits (why capacitance reduces Q). We're not working in resonance mode here, so I suppose that a higher switching frequency would give higher benefits than an optimised L/R ratio. Eagerly awaiting enlightenment, Guy |
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Alright, one more free post before I start collecting manditory donations.
All of this can information can be found by review of basic electrical principles, and correlating them. All interactions between inductance and capacitance (or other inverse conditions) have their energy "transformation" characteristics governed by certain predictable correlations. All this complicated talk basically comes down to time constants, and knowing how resistance affects a system. A high resistance in an inductor means a quicker time constant, meaning it reaches its maximum current more quickly. This is because its maximum current (at a given potential) is lowered by the high resistance, so the current reaches its "cealing" faster. A low resistance coil has a larger time constant, taking more time to reach maximum, however maximum is much higher. If you look at the equation for energy in an inductor.... energy = 0.5L x I^2, you see that as current doubles, energy in the inductor increases by a factor of 4. basically all im saying is that you want conditions favorable for getting high current, in a quick time, this equates to low resistance coils. However when an inductance collapses, its speed of collapse is dictated by the impedance of what it is collapsing into, this can be the impedance of a capacitor, or a resistive element. The higher the impedance, the quicker the collapse. No energy is lost if you have a high impedance (heating element?) being driven by the collapse of an inductor, simply the speed at which the collapse happens is changed. The fulcrum of this change is the impedance, dictating how fast in simple relations anybody can look up. As you can see, low resistance in charging an inductor is favorable, and a resistance on its discharge becomes a "fulcrum" dictating the voltage rise from the inductor. In an LC circuit, you cannot have this, You cannot have high resistance, then low resistance, you have either one or the other. And you have polarity reversals, which can be problematic in other systems. But if you could somehow develop a "one way tank circuit" as this circuit shows, then you can have your cake and eat it too. This is an incredibly simple addition to the "boost converter", and can be used to drive any inductively or capacitively stable load. (Field symetry really shows up here, as you can see high conductance on the growth cycle, and high resistance on the decay cycle, they are inversely related, just as capacitance and inductance are. ) Just dont discharge back into a battery, this is a waste of energy, capacitive elements are much more efficient. Study up on impedance matching, and other related topics. I wonder how many people would have realized they had ou if then knew about impedance matching. 3v at 5000 amps is alot of power, but you might never know it. This is just scratching the surface. Last edited by Armagdn03 : 06-04-2009 at 04:53 AM. |
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Uploaded a pic of temp measurement with heating wire I think is similar to that described by SkyWatcher. I scrounged it out of a 12v heated auto coffee mug from the dollar store. Temp is reading 10 degrees above ambient and neon is lit. (Not much I know but give me a break I'm engineering my no-budget prototype out of garbage.) Parts list: Transformer, one 1n4007 diode, small 6v dc motor turning maker breaker disk, neon bulb, 12v battery, wire.
Rosemary Ainslie's Patent (WO/1999/038247) HARNESSING A BACK EMF makes reference to US Patent 5449989. Here's a link to it: Energy conversion system - Google Patents Check out the links to this patent's many interesting citations. Here's a couple that were of particular interest to me: Electrical invertor apparatus - Google Patents Energy conversion system - Google Patents - The Tesla Turbine of my dreams again! Coaxial pseudospark discharge switch - Google Patents What makes those citations particularly interesting is the following statement from (electric_heater_experiment.pdf) COUNTER ELECTROMOTIVE FORCE ENABLES OVERUNITY RESULTS IN ELECTRIC SYSTEMS Quote:
Another intriguing passage reads: Quote:
One more quote (Rosemary Ainslie's words are so eloquent): Quote:
From: Hawkins electrical guide ... - Google Book Search Quote:
Maybe I'm way off base here but I've staring Rosemary Ainslie's patent since it hit this board and that's what I'm seeing. As for the direction I'm headed...Can you say "METADYNE"? Thanks to all for all they've done and keep up the good work. Peace PJ Last edited by sigzidfit : 06-04-2009 at 06:52 AM. Reason: expansion |
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I have fetched some other videos with Jim Murray, but the link above has no contents in the google videos, just the headline. I will be thankful if someone has a copy, so I can access the video, please. Eric |
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a changing goal post
Has anyone thought of the changes in the function criteria when the coil (heating element) starts to heat up. This one way LC circuit has changing conditions, as the element heats up the resistance changes and as so the frequency of off and on of the mosfet has to be changed to gain maximun efficiency. On test done so far, as temp: goes up so does the voltage until the temp: has reached its stable condition. This is just a quick post and I need to look into this a little further. Looking at the posibility of making it self oscillating without external signal
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@ Armagdn03,
Thanks for the "scratch", that was highly appreciated. Excuse my late reply, my work comes in the way of my hobbies. All things are still not clear for me but I'm working on it. I have found your posts on the Resonance thread and will devote the time to really get a good understanding. There is still one thing I'd like to clarify for now; (You can PM me the invoice for the "mandatory donation") As a particular resonance frequency can be attained with a wide choice of L/R ratios, is there a particular ratio that would theoretically be more hmmm, <efficient>? Or is it just that a particular value of L, or C, is always chosen in relation to what's available, or what's most practical in the circuit being designed ? And as a way to get unequal times for the fluxing and collapse of the coil, would it be worthwhile to investigate a bifilar coil ??? (transformer) (Gee, I hope I'm getting this one as a freebee) Sincere thanks for all the help, Guy Last edited by Altair : 06-04-2009 at 05:55 PM. |
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The device can be called a regenerative boost converter or a one way tank circuit, and is of one of my origional designs, (please do not use for monetary gain, you will hear from me, lol) I will not provide a schematic, because its easier to envision its opperation mentally. A battery charges an inductor to near near its limit, per the inductive time constant rules. This inductor is of very low resistance, I have a 1 ohm 10mh coil. I have a small sense coil placed near it. When the inductor reaches maximum, its ability to induce on the sense coil reduces to zero. when it reaches zero, the sense coil turns the switch off untill conditions are right to turn it on again. In this way, even as conditions change that affect the charge discharge cycles, the switch is controlled by the inductor reaching a current limit. From there the charge is shuttled through a heating element, into a capacitive storage, in high potential, waiting for the switch to open again releasing the charge in the correct polarity, augmenting the initial push. Another way to do this is to have a secondary on the core, with the large inductor, when the capacitor discharges again, it goes through the secondary instead of back thorugh the primary. There are advantages to doing it this way. (essentially the recycled pulse, gets added to the second pulse through a second coil that shares the core with the first) In this system, the inductor has maximum current rise due to the high conductivity of the input section. The output of the inductor is high impedance (not too high) or high resistance. Symetry in this case is not having the same element on both halves, it is having its equal and opposite on the other half. One side you have high conductance, the other side you have high resistance, one side you have high inductive reactance, on the other you have high capacitive reactance. all of these conditions are equal and opposites....or mathematically speaking they are inverses of one another. and the system as a whole can be called also a "ring circuit". (notice that sine consine functions, and the unit circle describe the inverse relationship, and also dictate our world of geometry, no coincidence) There are also ways to do this with NO diodes, and only one or no switching devices. This gets into theory a bit advanced for thsese forums, but perhaps this will get a few thinking. Look up the phenomenon of 1/4 wave interference. In photography and optics, this is used to selectively cancel out light of a particular frequency through the use of reflection and phase shifting. As it turns out, optics and electromagnetics are one and the same. If you have a ring circuit, and you excite it at some tangent , the "wave" will travel in both directions at once around the ring. If you excite it at two points on the ring, 1/4 wavelength appart, then you effectively cancel out one half of the wave going one direction, and DOUBLE the wave going the other way. Now you have a true one way tank, where energy propagates in one direction only, in a circular track.... From this point, a person could actually begin to re-write the physical laws using the mathematics no higher than trigonometry. Before this was impossible, now it is easy. Entropy has to have its inverse brother, completing its unit circle relationship. If anybody is interested, I have a few small demos on youtube under the username Tortuga0303, these give a few jumping off points for understanding electrical embodiements of oscillation. YouTube - tortuga0303's Channel Have fun guys. Last edited by Armagdn03 : 06-04-2009 at 07:28 PM. |
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I think the best duty cycle for this kind of circuit need to be experimented. On my experiment of coil collapse current circuit, 10% ON at 2KHz is a lot cooler than 50% at 50Hz. Cool enough to let it run 8 hour a day for few month at 0.4Amp.
I think there should be sweet spot frequency or duty cycle for heat generation too. |
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