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Old 03-10-2009, 01:22 PM
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I'm a little curious at the request for better pictures. It's obvious I am not a gifted artist, so even when I do better pictures my "better" is still far below standard. I can't "win" an argument on paper based on my drawings animated or not.

The principles shown are what will make the device work.

If "selling" principles of Physics is what it takes to grown men already versed up to their eyeballs in Physics Law then the picture making effort is wasted... especially since pictures basically mean nothing to them anyway. If the Science is right they will work. I'm not redoing the pictures for anybody more than my own self. I try to do stuff right and to my own satisfaction as much as possible... if and when I feel physically up to doing them not because someone demands them of me. The Gravity Wheel device will have both a Power and Efficiency Gain by

#1 pushing the wheel and (Power)
#2 rebounding to a less negative radius position (Efficiency)
#3 in the same action a twofer in the same window of Time => Physics Multitasking.

New pictures or no new pictures.
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Baseball Analogy => Bat and Mit, Windup Pitch, Home Plate <> PLAY BALL

Uhm, seems like as I recall this country had a favorite sport called BASEBALL.
Do I have to prove how baseball works too? Whew, you're a tough crowd.

When the Gravity Wheel winds up, the ball rolls up to the mound for the pitch. It throws a curve ball that first dips like a slider then it curves up over the hub and plummets down under slingshot acceleration toward home plate (smack plate) where it gets caught in a baseball glove that doubles as a baseball bat and the ball gets hammered once again back into play. How many thousands of baseball games do we watch in our lifetime anyway?

Maybe I need Kevin Costner to build it so they'll come.
Everybody seems to understand everything he does...
not that having the Phone Book guy doesn't help.

Slingshot maneuvers around planets and the moons of Jupiter is old hat to NASA. Mean ta tell me we can't do it on EARTH? I haven't done anything new here, just a new collaboration of ALREADY PROVEN TECHNIQUES in a different package that takes advantage of gravity <> and Gravity isn't anything new either.

Man, you people would have killed Richard Pryor.
I'm glad I don't hafta re-invent a TOILET.
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:28 AM
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I only have a bit problem with the arrow. If the arrow is reduced to the one currently active, it should made the picture easier to read. The wheel and ball is fine.

I have a couple of question about how the ball move which should be answered with clearer arrow. For example, the time when the ball move from outer to inner, what make the ball move, gravity or lever or rebounce? If rebounce how many rpm the wheel rotate?


About energy from the ground, in java psychic / martial arts learning it is suggested for laying on top of banana tree leaves on the ground or floor. Most house here has the floor connect to the ground because the floor material is either granite or from dirt.
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:47 AM
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If the arrow in the wrong place -or in too many places- is your major problem then the very fastest way to fix that would be to print out my pictures and get a big eraser, take out which arrows bothers your eyes. Then make a gif or tga file from that and e-mail it to me.

In the meantime I'll see what I can do here towards getting some better pictures by this weekend. But if I have yours to look at I'll be SURE to get them right.

And thanks for the help if you are able to do that. If not, that's OK.

I don't have any big banana leaves however, when I moved into these apartments they didn't give us new carpet. So a few years later I asked for new carpet and they said they couldn't do it, against their rules. So I have 8 year old carpet that's close to being dirt. Actually, since I don't know the previous tenant had new carpet it's entirely possible this old rag could be 40 years old. The apartment was built in 1970...
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:23 AM
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Ok. Here is the image:
I found the last sequence weird. And I wonder how it look between the last the the first sequence.




I think banana tree leaves could also means carpet made from plant, can be bamboo, palm weave, wood, etc.
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:28 PM
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I agree with your criticisms of the drawings. The reason I put them online as fast as I did (2 days) was that I had made a promise to the other fellow that I would have them online by Sunday March 8. I try not to break promises, but sometimes I do because of my health issues messing me around. I'm going to start over again from the smack plate drawings I have and start over.


Health from Earth Energy Ground-Thru-Plant Transfer
and the Accidental Mixed-Proteins
Cure for Hemophilia

Sometimes plant material will draw infection out of our body so I kind of think of your trick with the leaves like that, except not pulling infection but pulling the healthful energy out of the ground, sort of. But also that energy is apparently designed to prefer transferring into living matter given the chance, a Like-Drawn-to-Like Attraction. But also the Fluid Gravity is drawn to the water in plants and animals, easier to jump into fluids than off into the air since Air is a resistance to energy.

So just like you said, it would probably work with many other leaves or other previously-living matter just like the banana leaves. The animals sunning themselves on the good green grass are having their batteries recharged as well people on the beaches, with Earth Energy.

Since I don't imagine we could eat those leaves they're "expendable" to us but if I'm not mistaken don't giraffes eat those leaves? Probably many animals gain life & health from them. They must be on a par with bananas. You take this product sold called Oxy-Nectar has many nutritious ingredients, you can take that and wet it, make a poultice to put on injuries and cuts.

I recently mixed the Oxy-Nectar with coconut oil really really dry and it set up into a sheet. I broke up the sheet and made healthy breakfast chunks. Coconut oil is some of the best protein you can get. In fact, hahaha, when I first used coconut oil I mixed it with peanut butter and some other stuff and it dried up my blood so much my kidneys were throbbing from the added workload. I went like that for 3-4 months not realizing what the throbbing really was. I thought it was the trunk nerve in my spine throbbing because after my being slammed down in 1989 I had had that same powerful throbbing.

I had mixed up a cure for hemophilia! It was making my kidneys very much hard work. The different proteins, turns out, combined together into what's called a "chemical spiderweb" in my blood, so since I don't have hemophilia well, I didn't need my blood setting up like mortar. That was over well two years ago when that happened => the cure for hemophilia an accidental discovery by Woodrow Riley.

I wrote it up on several international forums, so a few years later the scientific~medical community came up with the term chemical spiderweb for my discovery and ran with it like they had sewed together a new football from pigskin and sewing thread with their own ingenuity... and since everybody in the world expects great discoveries to come from college boys not me they all pile on the researcher's Praise-be-to-us bandwagon the researchers saying they discovered it. What they really did was they read my international posts on SlashDot and the New York Times. hahahaha It will all come out in the wash as Mom used to say, the real will be divided from the plagiarists. This new modern medical wonderboy-discovered chemical spiderweb cure for hemophilia was an accident not a gaggle of great college-educated DNA genuses sweating over an all-night jamfest-of-the-brains session.

Nutrients are a lot like poisons in that they will pass through the skin. They can be absorbed through the lining of the mouth. Oxygen is a nutrient also, so when I told people to purse their lips together and hold back the air as they exhale that's how extra oxygen is pressed into the bloodstream in the mouth, being pressed through the mouth & tongue lining into the bloodstream... like the fish, and the weightlifters already do.

We can all do that, we can all have their Power. It is the power of the fetus and the young infant & child, to build new stem cells that are totally compatible with each individual, solving each individual's health problems, maximizing what each of us is supposed to be. But, people doubt my conclusions for lack of ONE IMPORTANT FACT I found out years ago doing reading, that the majority of oxygen breathed in is exhaled back out. All I did was I said Hey, whoa there team! I want that oxygen to be absorbed not go back out. But for lack of that one single fact people doubt. It's much easier to say CloudSeeder Riley is a fraud.

I'm not.

And if my discoveries weren't being paid to other people
I'd build this Gravity Wheel not write about it.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:23 AM
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Those are interesting changes you made Sucahyo. I have very limited tools here to do curved drawings. I have PhotoShop & Windows Paint. Neither one is suited for doing stuff like this. I used an Office Max protractor on a printed out circle with just the smack plates on the drawing and some curved plastic.

I wasn't really wanting to do them over again... but you're right: they could use some spiffing up. Ideally to have more views in tighter increments with smaller ball position changes... and then there wouldn't be any need for any directional arrows at all. I'll see can't I have them online this weekend... more views in the animation and spinning at a faster clip.

I like doing it but it's time consuming.
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:36 AM
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I modified your image with irfan view. I think you can utilize photoshop berzier for drawing curve, although there are other application spesifically made for vector drawing like illustrator or corel draw. There are also inkscape, or other alternative:
Math Games:Vector vs. Raster

I currently use QUCS on some, only because I am too lazy to try other though, should be enough for drawing circle or curve. I use Gimp for cropping, fine rotating, or other complicated stuff. All free. Irfan view support rotating and drawing ball too.


Interesting finding on coconut oil, is it the same as palm oil? If it is different I guess making it myself is faster since there is no product like that here and so many coconut shell is made because coconut water is a favorite drink here. There is a type of coconut which many people here would use as anti poison, green coconut water.


In Indonesia, plant leaves is consumed a lot, there is many menu that include plant leaves. There are favorite menu that many of they ingredient are from plant, like pecel, gado-gado, and rujak. Even the children love it. I found it weird that west people eat natural food from plant without processing it in a way to make it taste good. Banana leaves also used a lot as food wrapper, like in lontong and lemper, banana leaves would add taste to the food.

That is a sad thing for the hemophylia cure. I think we have our current problem in energy is because something like that too.

I pass country side area last week. I see a healthy old man bathing in a river which also being use to bath a cow, and use as toilet. What surprising me is not the fact that he bath in the very dirty water, but the fact that he is very old. He must have done it from his younger age. I guess we can't trust anything scientist would told us, according to the current knowledge bathing in a river like that will make you sick. But that old man is healthy, I guess science assuming too many thing and ignored fact like this.

Human body is magnificent creation, it can adapt to environment or treatment. Drug can be inffective after consumed a lot, but we get more immune everytime we get the same sickness. Skin can withstand heat or needle if trained. Muscle can be fast or strong. There are so much that we ignored and don't know.
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Thanks Sucayho. You're right too that people paying out $1200.00 a month for hemophilia medicine when all they have to do is mix proper batch of proteins... is like the Energy Crisis. We all bleed profusely from that when the answers are at our fingertips.

The old guy out bathing in the river, as long as no skin cuts he's okay. His skin has become toughened from the sun. As long as he doesn't breathe any water up his nostril. A lot of the time there's a bacteria in the water if it gets inside the nostril goes straight to the brain, a quick death.

Whether he's getting all that clean is another matter. But over here we poison our women with flouride in the shower water that molecules are able to enter their body through the opened skin pores...

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Tell ya what there Sucayho. Instead of making more drawings that prove nothing much at all... I've come into a bit extra money here this week from an overbilling mistake made by my life insurance company. I may just be able to afford the Motion software that does real-time calculation of Gravity, Momentum of the weighted balls and the other constantly-spinning, constantly-changing variables.

I'm going to retrack and save my energy to put into learning that software if the guy still offers me the discount. I wrote him an e-mail just now.

You can fool around with the drawings on your own all you want. It isn't like they're Copyrighted or something; they aren't. Until I can show the Forces in real-time action ~simulated close to reality~ my time and energy are wasted just doing more drawings.

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The old guy out bathing in the river, as long as no skin cuts he's okay. His skin has become toughened from the sun. As long as he doesn't breathe any water up his nostril. A lot of the time there's a bacteria in the water if it gets inside the nostril goes straight to the brain, a quick death.
There are many children playing, jumping around in that river too. I guess human body can develop more immunity than what we can think of, unless maybe when the pollution source is industry.

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Tell ya what there Sucayho. Instead of making more drawings that prove nothing much at all... I've come into a bit extra money here this week from an overbilling mistake made by my life insurance company. I may just be able to afford the Motion software that does real-time calculation of Gravity, Momentum of the weighted balls and the other constantly-spinning, constantly-changing variables.
That would benefit all . Thanks for the great effort .
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Comments on 'Gravity Can't Work' from another thread

I've been reading & re-reading some comments made on another thread concerning the poster's HARD HELD BELIEF THAT GRAVITY IS AN UNUSEABLE ENERGY SOURCE. After a passage of days I'm deciding to address two main issues I see raised from his post => http://www.energeticforum.com/48241-post91.html :

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"The centrifugal force of the swinging weight adds real energy to the rotation of the wheel."
If the centrifugal force was isolated & alone it would be both a useful & usefully-recurring force. However, the WEIGHT of the object causing that centrifugal force is a Constant that always accompanies that centrifugal force... This Constant always overwhelms the awesomely smaller centrifugal force.

ALWAYS.

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"Gravity alone isn't enough. It's like trying to get energy from a magnet without moving it."
This is a true statement concerning the problem with Gravity not moving. The obvious and logical thing to do is to design a device that moves in & out of gravity... which is rather much IMPOSSIBLE TO DO because gravity is EVERYWHERE A CONSTANT. But if a device was designed with the ability to throw an object UP IN THE AIR AND THEN IT FALLS BACK DOWN (as it has to do and will do), at the point where the object is fully up it is temporarily rendered Weight-Negative (No Gravity) as it comes back under the pull of gravity to come back down... just like the Air Force and NASA use high-flying airplanes dipping up and down to train astronauts.

Temporary Anti-Gravity <> Turn Gravity On & Off.

A spinning wheel is one way to accomplish that jet trick ~while itself standing still on earth~ because its outer rim can be heavy enough to maintain speed (by virtue of its in-motion inertia). Through use of the weighted ball we can in essence Turn Gravity On and Off at regular intervals, setting up a regular physical oscillation of the Ball's state from being Potential to Kinetic per cycle.

Gravity is weak yet anyone who fires a bullet straight up and stands still will find out the bullet comes back mighty hard. A heavier ball will not go as high but the principle is the same for its heavier weight over a shorter distance. A ball trapped inside a repeating revolver, or a ball trapped inside a repeating wheel, both work => http://tinyurl.com/GravityWheelOne (Post #1 CloudSeeder's Gravity Wheel on Fire) The Gravity Wheel does NOT violate existing rules <> it uses them in a new way, a cyclical expression way => http://www.energeticforum.com/48602-post81.html

Thanks for the previous comment Sucayho.
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Gravity wheel from 1993

Here's a gravity wheel

YouTube - G-Force Rotational machine
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A little rough on the Sound-O-Meter... but at least now we finally know why there's so many tsunamis overseas. Good work Mark. A machine that awesome could stop an army of army of darkness bruce campbell - Ixquick Metasearch an army of little Bruce Campbells.

Sorta looks like making a YouTube video didn't help get it to market... it just went plop plop fix fix into the new invention hole zappo Coal Miner's Daughter at the bottom of a would be hell Big Bad John (where it deserved to be IMHO).
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Looks very complicate, but it is interesting that current working device has more than one rotor/plate.

BTW, if you can contact the magnet simulator programmer, see if the program can simulate Veljko Milkovic's device. The programmer should know what rule to bend if it doesn't.
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Here is a couple of gravity wheel simulation:
YouTube - Gravity Bessler wheel simulation test 01
YouTube - Gravity Bessler wheel simulation test 02
YouTube - Gravity Bessler wheel simulation test 03
YouTube - Simulation - Gravity Powered Wheel


different form:
YouTube - Selfrunning free energy machine
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2D physics sandbox

Phun - 2D physics sandbox - Home
More complex than it first looks.

WARNING.. I'm seeing some strange anomalies in the software.
I had a 2 stage oscillator fall over and in a pile of mess on the ground,
it twitched and bounced around like it was a bird shot out of the sky
It would not stop moving after falling over .
It's probably just operator error as always with software.


Avoid frustration follow the Tutorials


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It run very slow on my computer . Working Model 2005 work better.
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1993 <> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZItT-XqqrHE

The machine YouTube - G-Force Rotational machine is rotating very fast with a crispness of action that is much faster than mere falling or swinging pendulum action would cause (imho)... so the collective force turning the device is then enough to overcome -and continue to overcome- the natural desire of the device to wind down and come to a stop (inertia).

I have not studied the device or its patents in any depth but the loud noise coming from it indicates a powerful energy is being observed capable of causing that much noise. A simple pendulum or half-passively falling object just would not generate that much noise. My own conclusion is that during the majority of the spin (for each individual piece) there is a storing of energy and at the proper time that stored energy (again, per piece) is being triggered for fast and noisy release. So it must be using a graduated cocking mechanism and a sudden firing mechanism.

The cocking mechanism must be pulling the overall weight off one side otherwise the device would have to come to a stop... so there must be a sliding in effect where the side coming up the pieces slide toward the center while on the energy-releasing side a gear-release trigger engages and possibly YANKS a weight down.... possibly a stationary smack ball on the tip end of a lever that slides into a fulcrum point as the unit slides toward the hub, throwing the weighted end down with additional force instead of just penduluming or falling.

Obviously a Levered magnification of force is in play. The repetitive striking taken as a combined Total is creating a similar effect as my weighted rim performs... Yeah, I can see his logic => a thousand sweat bee stings can still kill a large man. Speed plus multiple strikes, the lesson of Bruce Lee.

On the upcoming side the reverse would happen where the unit would slide to the other side, setting it up on a per revolution basis. I believe I might could figure out this device; however, since it likely NEEDS to be this size to work not smaller it would not fit into a home closet... and even if it was put in a larger closet the noise would make the Home uninhabitable, so I lack incentive to pursue it... as my Gravity Wheel has the smaller closet size and is enclosed enough to prevent escape of so much noise... that it would not generate anyway if proper, less noise-generating materials are used.

It is an interesting device. It would make farmers a great scarecrow and
could have very important use for airports to keep varmints off the runways.
If a better video was available focusing on the hub action we could likely see
better what the inventor had done. Perhaps the patents show it.
I'm thinking weighted slide-rods hinged on the outer end,
held from freely sliding down til they reach the right point to do so, then hitting a trip trigger release.

Since it appears to have been designed by Orientals, and bamboo stalks are extremely slick and also lightweight, I imagine he was using that, thereby keeping the inner weight of the device very limited. Something tells me the forces are being generated by a ball weight fulcrum-encountering lever sliding in toward the hub at precisely the proper time to strike, and then resets on the remainder of the cycle for the next and next strike, times how many there are, which appears to be numerous.

It looks complicated to most people who look at it as one whole but were we to break it down it's a series-firing accumulation of same-working units all doing the same repetitive action per 360 degree revolution (i.e. it looks harder than it really is). I would suggest that its inventor purposely chose materials to make that much noise to help camouflage the simpleness of its action. (Think flak, sleight of hand, and shell games.)

I think the inventor has actually captured the sweet spot where he had to add enough units to overcome by body count the upside Total Dead Weight on the Down Side. He had to make the device the size we see as it actually did not work when smaller, so he just kept adding more units and growing the device til it reached the size it is in the video, the size it had to be to work. In other words, whereas all of us are likely greatly pre-occupied with making our ideas lighter, the inventor must have found himself in the opposite position of having to add weight til it got large enough to work.

hahahahahaha <> I prefer mine: Energetic Forum - View Single Post - CloudSeeder's Gravity Wheel on Fire; I may look at this one more closely later though because it is obvious he has used a hub-oriented lever and/or rolling cam (floating cam that stays stationary instead of turning with the hub, if that's possible) solution to raise the next & the next rod as it passes top dead center into the ready-to-fire position. At any rate this device shows -and proves- lever-propelled weights can overcome inertia. Had the inventor attached a home generator closer to the hub and showed it powering a small washing machine, dishwasher or vacuum cleaner... so now it has entered its own 300-year Bessler stretch depending on subsequent interested inventors to break it down and figure it out, and add the generator this time.

I might would work on it but from what I have seen of other inventor's ideas here I believe it's within a number of theirs ability to recreate this device without much help from me. When the rods slide into their extended positions (left side) they must pull the weighted lever tip (perhaps a ball) in toward the hub on the up-coming side.
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Terms And Phrases I Have Always Avoided Using

I have had other engine systems than the "Gravity Wheel" (this thread). Gravity Wheel is a new idea for me I first had in 1996, except then it wasn't a wheel but a spinning Figure 8 piece of plywood 3 layers of it together. I realized in 96 I wasn't up to the task of completing it so I set it to the side and forgot about it as I invented other engine systems.

It was very much a surprise last year when I suddenly "saw" how to make it work as a wheel... but ONE THING I HAVE NEVER DONE is call any of my engines perpetual motion or "Free Energy". I have called a number of my systems "Perpetual Power" because unless and until they are turned off they will continue to run without combustion of any fuel. As for using the phrase Free Energy I have deliberately and purposely refrained from using it anywhere except here right now in denying it. Every mother's child is told from birth nothing in this world is ever free, so when anybody uses that phrase it's like taking a shovel to your own idea, or a Salem Massachusett's torch.

None of us can overcome such as a widespread pervasive and thoroughly penetrated,
accepted and inculcated brainwashing of the entire American Public since birth.

But even if we did have engines running on air, or water, or air & water, or heated water and liquid cold air, or gravity, or harmonics, or echoing sound combining, while those forces are free any resulting devices & systems using them are not free, so a free engine -implied by using the phrase Free Energy- runs
straight into a hangman's gallows because of the Mass Brainwashing everyone received.

The brainwashing is true =>
the engines from those energies are not free.
They have to be designed & built and purchased.
Anyone using those terms has defeated any chance they thought they had.
As it turned out, my engines looked like them so much they got defeated anyway.

So far. I came to this Energetics Forums hoping to correct that.
I may have calculated poorly. The damning terms are being used here also.
I would ask other posters to begin refraining from invoking them.
Battery acid is better than Perp or Free.
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+Temperature +Moisture +Air =Climate Engine Wow 2003! Moon Gold Rush of 2009!

A new thread caught my eye a few days ago => Fuel-less combustion of AIR !!! and it tells of a "new" engine that runs on air. It caught my eye because it also pulled in Moisture and Differences in temperature. An admission of difficulty is stated there in the following posts because anywhere a car/truck runs the moisture and temperature are fluctuating constantly, so the engine is an admitted failure til it jams in quite a lot of moisture & temperature control paraphenalia. My engine has all that included in the inner workings as it is a 100% closed system => Air Powered Car: Reversed Steam (Vacuum) Power~Collapsed by Minus-320 Cold Air = Instant Explosion Dual Synergy Creation-Time Engine of 2003 17 Billion Years Old .

The one mentioned
is a Temperature Engine + also a Moisture Engine, not just an Air-Powered Engine.
Enginewow I designed in 2003 and called it a Climate Engine.
(long link above)

I made post #9 => http://www.energeticforum.com/49514-post9.html after which a silly furor resulted, not over anything I posted but of all things Website Design and specifically a legal Meta Tag I used that is commonly used all over the Internet to refresh the page. This was nothing more than a diversionary tactic to keep people from reading my short post because I had used several new Energy terms the other posters must apparently not want people to start using =>

1. Imitation Energy
2. Physics Fuel


A few YADA YADAS later I revealed a tactical maneuver I had used with the mighty CHEVRON OIL COMPANY which I happen to be right proud of, that last year I had contacted their crude oil headquarters and offered them much of my insights and information Chevron (and other oil companies also) could use to help them transition away from Crude Oil Money over to using my Physics Fuel engine systems without watching their hard-earned fortunes go belly up in the Pacific Ocean.

They have not taken me up on my offer as yet but the offer stands. It isn't my job to destroy people's lives and incomes but to do as the Bible writer instructed to have kindness and compassion towards all men and their families. That includes not destroying their retirement incomes or burning down their family crests and fortunes. The Bible book of Revelation clearly assigns any such destruction to Jesus Christ at a later date that John called Armageddon. It is not my job to do.

At the present time in world history it is said the value of the World Economy has dropped 45% and is still falling. In previous posts in this thread I've mentioned many of my other engine systems besides the Gravity Wheel... so while monetary wealth is dropping I would suggest we keep in mind that with my engines and others too, we now have an increased value that dwarfs mere money. This will become more clear in the next few years. What you have lost in 401k plans, stocks, bonds, Home Re-Sale Values that have plummeted... none of these losses begins to touch the gains I have made in my Energy discoveries.

For instance: just a few months ago I wrote a pdf file. Here's the shortcut to it => http://tinyurl.com/StardustEnergy. In those two short pages I reveal how to set up a Moon-Based Solar Energy bounce to Earth that will bathe this planet in more raw Energy than it could ever use including an East-West North American suspended monorail system (on Page #2).... so now we find out the Russians, the Chinese, the Australians and the Japanese and Indians are all into developing advanced Space programs to reach the moon?

hahaha
Now you know WHY.
The 2009 Moon Gold Rush is ON.
CloudSeeder has caused it to rain energy
from Earth's Moon.


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...They have not taken me up on my offer as yet...
Imagine our shock.
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Ted Ewert, the racist spouting bigot who made this comment (link to) => http://www.energeticforum.com/49579-post20.html
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Success Comes Sometimes Only When People are Ready

Thank you for the animal grease & leather history Dr. Lindemann Post #165 => http://www.energeticforum.com/50189-post165.html . I imagine the Eskimos maybe were a little in on that also. One of those common knowledge things. I read through many of your links when I first came here and read your Mechanical Engine thread but I'm not much for memorizing where I read what to give you a set reference.

But I do recall reading that in the courtroom Dr. Bessler's servant help admitted to being in an adjacent room and turning a small wheel. Maybe that's true, maybe it isn't, but he would have still made a good machine if all it took was a little handcrank to "help" it past the "flat spots". It's possible that inventors since his time have inflated his accomplishment to being more than it was => standalone energy.

Almost every engine has flat spots and require a little "help" or some ingenoius "cheat", but if it gets the job done and humanity trucks down the road a bit better off it's still a success. I am thoroughly convinced that Johann Bessler's devices from his insights was still a great accomplishment. And while everybody says "lightning never strikes twice in the same place" (we all know it sometimes does) how much more miraculous does it get when it strikes twice at the SAME TIME? Thomas Newcomen put us into the Industrial Age by throwing cold water into a steam engine to make the piston return faster.

Johann Bessler, had he not made his unfortunate gaff of invoking "perpetual motion" would have done the same and double... but once it left his lips he was cornered into trying to back it up. Didn't most of us do that ourselves sometime in our life, try to get past a mistake rather than suck it in? So Bessler was normal; I still hold him in high honor. But whichever one of you figures how to breach the flat spots without anyone turning a crank on the side will step into the line I reckon.

As I recall the Tesla people in New Jersey include a bump-off motor to start their magnet-filled wheel. Using bump motors is not a disgrace any more than using a hand crank on a Model T Ford to avoid walking. Making a spontaneous engine better than that is rather an impossible goal. I know how to make a few, but after telling people about them they get to either laughing or ridiculing the very idea... People have been so thoroughly immersed in the idea stuff can't be done, even when it's in their face they might as well be natives standing on a beach unable to focus their eyes on ships too large for their brain to accept.

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Old 03-28-2009, 08:10 PM
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my thoeory

I have been looking at a few different designs for the moving ball weight wheel. Here is a drawing of one that I have been thinking about. It uses eight odd shapped chambers a kick plate and return scoop. The yellow and green is just to differentiate between the extension and return paths of the ball weights.

THe central hub has a ramp to extend the down hill weight out earlier but still allows the weights to go over center as early as possible.
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Very thoughtful, and pretty too. I'll mail you. The balls seem rather evenly balanced, with friction minimal as it is but still friction, you need to have a bit more imbalance. I wonder if you couldn't place a fulcrum somewhere along the underside that would allow the units to tip to the outside... and on the way up on the other side it would remain tipped down til it got up top, kinda like how a bricklayer's mud bucket does.

That way you would have two Actions in progress per revolution instead of depending solely on the ball. We need to get some Tilt-A-Whirl action going bad.
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Old 03-29-2009, 02:40 PM
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Just sharing a thought on the "size" aspect of these devices...

Larger diameter wheels have less rolling resistance (read that as rolling "friction") than smaller diameter wheels so when it is necessary for certain parts to roll along surfaces to position them, larger wheels and bearings will produce less friction than smaller ones. Add to this the higher inertia of larger wheels, and we can see why nearly all the "working" replications were of a large size.

The large size is necessary to add the inertia needed to keep the devices turning as well as to reduce the frictional losses. It's a balancing act requiring the stored/released inertia to provide more energy than the frictional losses. Large devices are the easiest way to do this.
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Old 03-29-2009, 05:57 PM
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Thanks everwiser, and nice name choice too. You must be really REALLY wise. I was thinking the same thing just this morning, a bigger wheel. I was also thinking the balls need to be lots larger but travel shorter distances... because let's face it, gravity doesn't really start out all that fast over such short distances, but add 200% Mass maybe a better whomp when it gets there, and it gets there faster because there is closer.
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The optimum wheel size is based on gravitation acceleration 32 ft/sec^2. At 28 rm the ball is falling for somwhere between 1/2 to 1 second. At the end of one second the ball could potentially be travelling 32 feet per second. It is that force which we are aiming to capture on the way down. It has been shown in several posts that you must use a "kick plate" to convert the energy of the ball falling into rotation. If we use a scoop on the lifting side to bring the balls closer to the center as early as possible then we can conserve the angular momentum and let the balls help lift themselves. But that doesn't solve the inevitable balancing problem that is caused by counter rotational forces between balanced and over balanced portions.

I propose a three phase gravity motor conceptually drawn out on this page in the bottom picture. Rotation is counter clockwise.

At phase A the wheel has maximum potential. Phase B has some potential left. Phase C is just beyond the balance point and is exerting counter potential very similar to that of Phase B. So they net each other. If we utilize the available torque in Phase A to overcome the counter rotation in phase C then it will tip over and rotation can be sustained.

At least this works in theory. I don't have the physics programs to work out friction and the optimum size. Can't afford right now to just build a prototype.
But what i do know is that a 4 foot three phase gravity motor of this type can be made out of about 3or4-4'x8' sheets of 3/4 inch plywood depending on the width desired in the weight chambers. Also you can use barbell weights inside but you have to allow for more friction because the weights can tip against the sides. The best option is steel balls because they are precision made, durable, and stocked at McMaster-Carr and similar carriers. Be advised though they are expensive: $300 for a 4.5 inch ball. Barbell weights are much cheaper. or you can use some childrens' balls to make molds for concrete balls they would be heavy but you would lose durability compared to iron or steel.
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Thanks everwiser, and nice name choice too. You must be really REALLY wise.
Nah...Just still learning.
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