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Old 09-23-2009, 04:09 PM
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The 22nd was overly optimistic of my abilities to fabricate the next one (below) but the designs are all ready, and some of them simply blow me away. I was planning to show this one first but I made some last minute pre-22nd additions to it that made it too intricate for me to build. Here it is not yet finished and shelved til I have more $$$$ =>



The one above is a lot like a pelican shape, this one's the "double-opposed dual pendulum" design. And now that American electric consumers know for a fact they are being over-sauced by their friendly electric companies (APCO, AEP and so on), people will know for a FACT they can power their homes with Wind, Solar or Gravity.

Open Road now Cloxxki <> Jam the Pedal to the Metal.

Re: Nation's Electric Company Billing Scam on Consumers // Current

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Old 09-23-2009, 04:18 PM
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"Peacepipe4" is just my YouTube username, not a channel. When I get one of these babies to spinning I will put it on YouTube posted under peacepipe4 and also featured on a new website => www.justgravity.com . At present I am seriously short on funds (had to help my son out of a pinch this month).

I have found out that one person working alone shouldn't set Dates... but that's okay too because the delays gave me valuable time to perfect my designs. Gravity is toast Cloxxki. American electric power companies are falling like pieces of burnt toast right now.

The beast is on his knees <> where's our sword?
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:23 PM
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I used these broad width popsicle sticks for the side pieces on the last design but afterward I drilled one and it split. So the reason they're smeared with paint is that that isn't paint. That's liquid metal paste I smeared on the sides to reinforce the wood, keep it from splitting when it came under spinning pressures.
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Old 09-23-2009, 04:39 PM
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and Trickle Money too!



252 volts slamming America electric meters full speed ahead!

Over-exaggerated Need for Electricity Scam to

Stop Green Energy!
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Old 09-23-2009, 06:29 PM
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Over Voltage status

I can only agree with this. After reading this, now I know why my three UPS's have been squeaking at me all the time. Not under, but over voltage
Bout time to hook up a sample system and capture the data live to the disk and then post it.

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Old 09-23-2009, 07:35 PM
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That's right Thay. I first noticed this over voltage in 1999 when I bought my 1st mobilehome. It was in a different area east of here (Bedford Va) under a different power company. I tried to raise the issue but they stomped me like a cigarette claiming it was normal and I was all wet.

Of course THEY had all the electrician company credentials and to them I was a camel dump so they stopped me then, because I was very ill and Mom was about to pass away. I was too wasted and ill health to stay with the fight.

Then when I moved here the monthly bill stayed the same, and we were not using that much power again! We've all been screwed to the wall, repeatedly, and done to everybody.

These people have been dropping a rug over our head and beating us to a pulp. They haven't done anything less than roll us like a wino in an alley. They're pushing so much voltage (pressure) into our homes the cotton pickin' current is crossing through the air from one side of the receptacles to the the other, depending on amt of moisture in the air.

And when the grease fires kill more people in teh U.S. than any other fire, it's obvious when the stove element heats up once it reaches top heat it's still pumping that extra 20 volts. That's what's causing so many Americans to die from grease fires in the home.

20 volts extra at the bottom, no problem.
20 volts at the top, a problem.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:54 PM
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Thanks Thay for adding that about the UPS units going off because mine did that some too. Hadn't thought about that! The men who checked the voltage who work here at the apartments, they said the Current was actually LOW at 37. It's supposed to be 40 they said. If it was 40 my voltage would be 272. I conducted my own "Field Test" over the past months by turning off breaker switches in the circuit box to everything I wasn't using. I got my monthly bill down to $46. Then I stopped turning the switches off and it went right back up to yep, $89.91 right where those bastards oops dirty scum want it to stay.

Here's my Field Test screenshot =>



At first I wasn't real good at remembering to turn off the breakers, but as I got better at doing it the monthly bill continued to drop lower & lower after March and April went by (2009). Be advised though Thay <> I fried the apartment's heat pump. Too much voltage bounced into it.

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Old 09-24-2009, 12:04 AM
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I just now for the 1st time ever added up the first 31 months of my usage history and got the average monthly bill: $85.54; then the next 4 months when I was keeping the breakers turned off to restrict trickle current = $53.44 per month.

$85.54 minus $53.44 equals $32.10 multiplied by 35 months tells me how much overcharge, equals $1,123.50 <> I know for a fact this has been happened for the last 10 years <> which would be $374.50 times 10 equals $3,745.00.

I've paid out an extra $3,745.00 the past 10 years for trickle current being shoved thru my meter. That was from two separate electric companies. I had a different company in Bedford Virginia than the Appalachian Power Company "APCO" here in Roanoke Va.

In Bedford I had a brand new mobilehome, all new wiring you know. So when the bill kept hitting $90/month and all we were doing was running two computers, me and the boy who was 6 at the time, barely doing any cooking, I knew something was wrong then. Yep, something was wrong alright. Both their hands were squirming around in my pockets.

The reason we left Bedford was because one night our big nice microwave suddenly turned itself on and caught on fire. The electricity stream arced from the rotator motor up to the microwave bulb, passing through the heavy ceramic rotator plate giving it a black melted place in the middle (through the middle). I told Greentree Mortgage it was faulty wiring throughout the trailer and our lives were in danger, and gave it back to them. ((The microwave was plugged into a special ground fault automatic shuttoff receptacle that didn't shut the microwave down as it should have.))

Most Americans would never take note of these things as I have. I've been on full disability since 1989. I had time to take notes. "Greed knows no father" they said in the movie The Ten Commandments but this greed is from the stockholders of the Crude Oil, Coal and Natural Gas industries... soaking their own children and grandchildren to stay in good standing at their church. $4,000.00 from every household in America per each decade is a really large wad of cash. If it was just done here in Virginia you're still talking a lot of Sunday tithing and election contributions to get "their man" re-elected.

Woodrow Riley, 9/23/2009 <> thoroughly disgusted

However, we should not miss the full importance of what this overcharging means. It means all their calculations of how much energy we will need being produced ~as the TV lady spokesperson tells us as she walks across the stage~ produced by 2025 is entirely fabricated and fictitious, a number drawn out of electrified air ~ WHICH MEANS ~ the argument that Americans can't possibly survive on just solar and wind is a patent bald-faced lie.

I proved it with my homemade field test.



Wait a minute. OK, I did make a mistake. I failed to give them a break for winter & summer temperature spikes. My bad. I guess I'm just kind of upset over this crap.

Last edited by CloudSeeder : 09-24-2009 at 12:10 AM. Reason: Crude Oil, Coal and Natural Gas & Electric Power CEO's worse thieves of American's hard-earned money than OPEC.
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:01 AM
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Since the Resistance of my mobilehome and then the Resistance of this apartment were basically EQUAL (because our number of appliances remained equal) the excess voltage raising the trickle current is nearly a Constant $32.00 extra a month. That would mean I was correct. $32 x 12 x 10 = @ $3800 for the past 10 years being pushed too much voltage in Virginia.

The week is past, haven't heard a peep from anybody.
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Old 09-27-2009, 12:51 PM
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I'd love to try and contribute, but a find myself incapable of interpreting your wheels/pendulums designs, even afer you provided photos.
Perhaps until you collect funds to construct, you may be able to similate them in a program such as Phun or WM2D? I've recently seen some nice sims in Phun, but have not tried it myself yet.
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Old 09-29-2009, 02:55 AM
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You contribute plenty. I agree, the photos show a lot but the few things they don't quite show are important. I thought I'd put them out for people to see... anyone who can use a new idea to apply toward their own wheels. I couldn't hardly find the pieces of wood already cut to width so I took the wide popsicle sticks and glued them to make them. They seem to have to much flexibility. I may have to coat them with liquid metal paste to add stiffness.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:11 PM
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@Cloxxki: Well, to be brutally honest with you I've been having an issue with weakness in my upper spine next to the neck that has been dogging me for ages. It drains me mentally when it's like that. Saps me of the energy & drive I need to drive these wheels home.

I'm really getting ticked off about it. I was filled with those darn Lyme's disease spirocheates from late 2006 into February 2007 before I was able to beat them back. I don't know if it's them trying to get started in on me again or perhaps they chewed off some of the trunk nerve's myelin sheath.

It seems to be letting up a little today so I'm hopeful of getting back in the fray. I've got the two wheel designs all figured out what needs to be done with them. Even with just the pictures you have an idea of just how beautiful they are but I've made some rod length and angle changes to the big one looks like a pelican. Apologies for the long wait.

I've noticed Space-X has had their problems in that regard also => Space tourism yet to fly, 5 years since 1st flight - Yahoo! News

They are really very simple. I'm two left hands
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:21 PM
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How UFO's Work: Gyyroscope System to Hover / Weighted Ring+Sledgehammer Drive =>

UFO's stand still in the air by kicking in multiple gyroscopes. When sudden takeoff motion is desired the gyros are stopped and a spinning weighted ring engages a sledgehammer to hit in the direction desired. Very fast starts and sudden stops. Most likely unmanned, remote-control craft that would kill a living pilot. Gyro~Stop & Sledgehammer~Bang. To go up or down just tilt the spinning weighted ring around into position before hitting Stop.

Hint: the "sledgehammer is in the center of the craft, uses Leverage Energy. Only The CloudSeeder knows this. Sshhh. Top Secret. p.s. The jokes on us since 1950's.

For you SkyWatcher.

The weights are near the center <> the rings are at supreme velocity but have v/little weight so they can be stopped with a brake. When the ring is braked to an instant halt the weights near the center go flying outward sliding on a rod, and when the weight hits the end of the rod its centrifugal force jerk-propels the craft in that direction.

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Old 10-06-2009, 05:50 PM
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APCO Correction 10/06/2009 Lights Stopped Flickering

@Thaelin: @All: I noticed an APCO vehicle speeding past my apartment yesterday, and this morning the power went off for 5 minutes around 9 AM. When power was restored the dual fluorescent kitchen bulbs stopped flickering. They have flickered like that since 2003 when we moved in.

So I continued working on the computer ((because it's an Eee pc with a battery plugged on the back so it didn't get shut down when they turned off the power)), when the refrigerator compressor-motor came on and was running much more smoothly.

I seriously doubt they will show enough respect toward me to tell me what was wrong, but if they do I'll let you all know. Apparently they all have a great disrespect for apartment renters & people on disability. They uhm heh heh heh will have a greatly increased respect for us now because Woodrow Riley aka the CloudSeeder rained some truth down their collar and told them their job.

They've been cattle branded on their APCO hide. Whether they pay their electric consumers any monies back remains to be seen. I'm not holding my breath.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:39 PM
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Smack Plates are just a Sideways Pendulum Stopped Short.

10/19/2009 => Smack Plates are just a Sideways Pendulum Stopped Way Short of Full Swing.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:14 AM
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UFO's stand still in the air by kicking in multiple gyroscopes. When sudden takeoff motion is desired the gyros are stopped and a spinning weighted ring engages a sledgehammer to hit in the direction desired. Very fast starts and sudden stops. Most likely unmanned, remote-control craft that would kill a living pilot. Gyro~Stop & Sledgehammer~Bang. To go up or down just tilt the spinning weighted ring around into position before hitting Stop.

Hint: the "sledgehammer is in the center of the craft, uses Leverage Energy. Only The CloudSeeder knows this. Sshhh. Top Secret. p.s. The jokes on us since 1950's.

For you SkyWatcher.

The weights are near the center <> the rings are at supreme velocity but have v/little weight so they can be stopped with a brake. When the ring is braked to an instant halt the weights near the center go flying outward sliding on a rod, and when the weight hits the end of the rod its centrifugal force jerk-propels the craft in that direction.
Hi

I don't really understand how do you mean to stand still in the air by using multiple gyroscopes, I mean how do you generate an upward force by using a gyroscope?

But what I am sure about is that it is quite possible to generate upward motion using the centrifugal force, one must find a way to make it point upward. It is possible to build a so called primitive anti-gravity craft by using this method.

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The gyroscopes would either have to be very large or have to be a very fast speed and more than one, to hold a craft of any weight in the air, but the problem is like you say they wouldn't provide the propulsion. They would fight propulsion. My opinion is that it would be extremely impossible to slow them down plus maintain position without dropping for the propulsion to start into a slow acceleration. So there would need to be what has already been observed, a switch from one to the other.

Your best devices & engines are "dedicated" to a single job, like a whopper video card. And another point is to build such a craft you have to keep the overall weight down. So if you had two engines, one for the gyros and another for the "hammer", you have made flight very difficult from the extra weight, not to mention all the control systems to transfer gradually from one system into the other.

Two single-speed systems: Stop and Go, Either ~ Or are your highest efficiency. No buncha throttles and transmissions and all that heavy space-consuming power regulation stuff <> where Go means leave your tonsils behind. You may as well be riding in an atom smasher.

Most of the UFO sightings has always been that the craft goes from a standing still to instant already-there. This tells me there is only one engine and power source, and that when the gyros stop all the energy is switched instantly to propulsion. I'm not a trained scientist or engineer. I'm just a thinker I guess, with a gift for combining systems together, but if my conclusions are correct it explains a lot and, unfortunately also means no one living (who wants to remain living) can ride in it.

It is a useless remote-control drone? Maybe not useless at all. If rumours are true that they've been excavating and building underground facilities on the Moon these craft could have carried all the heavy machinery up there, a long time ago too, so if they exist then those rumours stand a good chance of being more than just rumours.

If I am right, it also tells us our government is probably not jerking us around for the sheer elitist joy of jerking us around. They just haven't solved it yet for anyone to ride in it. Not telling us is part of what is called the "Truth Embargo" and a whole lotta people are getting real angry about being kept in the dark. I was in hopes that by my writing my solution I would encourage them to go ahead and tell all.

It would be nice to know before our solar system goes plunging through the 2012 galactic plane hail meteor asteroids and planetoid storm. I hate the idea of dying so totally ignorant while some select few know everything. It smacks of grandstanding, holding off til the last second so they come off looking liking our new gods. Usually what is the truth, the bottom line and the black ink, is the money. If they revealed they had such craft it would take the money out of Hollywood Sci-Fi.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:25 PM
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To change direction the centrifugal system would have to have many rods with weights and probably trigger-released by a light to hit whichever one they want to be released for the desired direction. Probably a light sensor in the end of each rod, whichever one gets the light would release its weight to come slamming out to the rod's end and stop.

However, since the speed of rotation is so incredibly high it would have to be lit up to release revolutions ahead I imagine, to take into account the lag between trigger and release. A job for computers. Of all the rods with all the weights held in to the center where centrifugal is very low, only the one released would come flying off when the brakes grabbed, throwing the craft in only one direction.

If you wanted to get fancy -and also get by with less rods (less weight)- you might have several release at the same time to give the craft a combined vector not covered by a single rod.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:59 PM
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it looked like the one cat found it's way out of the bag I said well, let another cat

@elias: But all that is my explanation for what I think somebody else has already made, that everyone thinks is alien "visitors from Outer Space". I have several theories for making much easier systems. One of them I figured out from reading Tesla's last papers online somewhere. The other I had years ago is a modification to my own engine called the "Millenial Dawn".

Tesla's is much better. Both probably Light Speed. However, my ideas are not needed. There was a recent announcement this past week of a new engine that promises to reach Mars in 39 days. That actually was what prompted me to write so much myself on here that you saw. Since it looked like the one cat found it's way out of the bag I said well, let another cat out too!
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:15 AM
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CloudSeeder Explains Gravity? => http://www.energeticforum.com/73766-post243.html

CloudSeeder Explains Gravity? => The case against Over Unity <> 11/07/2009

Crash & Burn 2009 <> CloudSeeder is still on Fire!

If you can read that page you can read

ANYTHING.
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Old 11-19-2009, 03:17 PM
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Scorpion Solution to Gravity Wheels? <> Why the Pelican wheel design failed.

Scorpion Solution to Gravity Wheels?
Why the Pelican wheel design failed.

I posted my most recent solution to successful Gravity Wheel construction here => Smart Living: Page 163 SignOnSanDiego Forums <> as of 11/19/2009. Also included is the reason why the "Pelican" gravity wheel design was unable to quite work... which has applications I believe to many other's gravity wheel designs not quite reaching continuous spin. I'm a bit slogged down by the cold weather so I decided to go ahead and put my Scorpion Solution to Gravity Wheels online for everyone else to springboard a bit further in the pool.
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Tentative Cosmic Pressure Theory 01/12/2010 => http://tinyurl.com/AetherEnergySystem

Cosmic radiation explained as a criss-crossed energy a combined-mass invisible energy mesh that applies a downward pressure on the ocean surface, giving rise to a system for satisfying World Electrical Needs (electricity) plus clean drinking water deep into the continents was released on January 12 2010 at 10 PM ET time this post => Post #4840 of 1/12/2010 San Diego Forums <> it's a fairly simple concept. There are a number of other facets to it I can add later if anyone gets serious about working it up. Such a system would mellow out this planet's wild temperature swings and redistribute moisture... which would likely reduce droughts (and drought-instigated fires)... not just for providing energy, so it's an all-inclusive system that goes far beyond anything we are using now.

I didn't really flesh it out fully so the post there is an overview. Here is a shortcut to use to the post => AetherEnergySystem (easier to remember and type).
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:27 AM
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Bessler Gravity Wheel Design? ~ 2/15/2010 + Secret Health Formula

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Cosmic radiation explained as a criss-crossed energy a combined-mass invisible energy mesh that applies a downward pressure on the ocean surface, giving rise to a system for satisfying World Electrical Needs (electricity) plus clean drinking water deep into the continents was released on January 12 2010 at 10 PM ET time this post => Post #4840 of 1/12/2010 San Diego Forums <> it's a fairly simple concept. There are a number of other facets to it I can add later if anyone gets serious about working it up. Such a system would mellow out this planet's wild temperature swings and redistribute moisture... which would likely reduce droughts (and drought-instigated fires)... not just for providing energy, so it's an all-inclusive system that goes far beyond anything we are using now.

I didn't really flesh it out fully so the post there is an overview. Here is a shortcut to use to the post => AetherEnergySystem (easier to remember and type).
Well friends, the world keeps trucking along, the southern half of Planet Dirt is being roasted in another heatwave while the northern half is catching hell that's very cold. The Aether system quoted above haven't heard anything about anybody working on it but I imagine they are. I've been too busy to try and find out. I posted it and assumed the "right people" would see it and work on it. I am probably wrong to think that.

I really like my "Scorpion" design and also the dual opposed pendulum shown here at the top of Page 15. However, a few days ago yet another design came to me that is likely superior to these others. It may very well be the system Johann Bessler used or a variation that will show some of you a clue to what Bessler's gravity wheels were doing. Come warmer weather here in Virginia -and all my money isn't going down the APCO Power Co. rathole- I intend to build a large working model, skip the table tops this time.

I am working on my health right now to get myself restored enough to engage these beasts again this year. The "health tonic" formula I made turns out is much more powerful than I dreamed possible any drink could be. It took about 8 minutes after drinking a glass when it hit my system. It went rolling through my body like a freight train plowing through a herd of cholesterol cows.

What I had really invented in my tonic is the equivalent of intravenous chelation therapy US doctors have had banned in the United States. At 58 years of age and 270 pounds my Resting Pulse is same as my Age => 58. It isn't exactly cheap to buy the products goes in it but I found out something amazing last week. The Olive Oil contains a special protein that gives our body what it needs to manufacture its own Hyaluronic Acid. Hyaluronic is used in creams to keep women's skin smooth & soft but hyaluronic acid was instrumental in my stopping Colon Cancer twice.

The more I learn about my "Prospector's Gold Health Formula" the more better it looks to be a real mother lode of human health on steroids without steroids. Click anywhere here to open the pdf file and read about it. Just one thing, make sure you use the coconut oil that has high lauric acid, not the cooking oil. The Lauric Acid strength should be over 55%.

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Hammer Cam Gravity Wheel April 15 2010 Tax Deadline Target Release Date Update

My intention and promise to deliver a working Gravity Wheel is still on track. The last design was my very best, the one I called the "Scorpion" because it has a large head-like weight near the axle and a lighter flinging weight in its "tail". While working on the Scorpion design I came to realize an even better design so I have temporarily back-burnered the Scorpion to complete the new one first, with the intention of having it running on or before April 15, America's Tax Deadline Day every year. Similar to the Scorpion but it is straightened out instead of curved. I have named it the Hammer Cam. The Scorpion's "head" weight drops across a cam. As everyone knows by now I drop these "breadcrumbs" so that should anything befall me -which I do not expect to happen at all- but if some off-the-wall accident was to happen someone else can pick up where I left off using these few hints and information alone. Hammer Cam is right much an idea easily enough figured out. After finishing it I'll drop back and begin working on the Scorpion Gravity Wheel again also. I am in hopes of BOTH being done before April 15 Tax Deadline Day. The link for it will be => www.justgravity.com while on YouTube I imagine I'll just call it Virginia Hammer Cam.

#1, The Just Gravity dot com link is a parked page at present.
#2, the Virginia Hammer Cam is likely close to what Johann Bessler did.
#3, my apologies to other members. I've not kept up with their progress.
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Hammer Cam, celebrating 1 Year + 3 days since http://tinyurl.com/GravityWheelOne

My son Randy uses 3-d Studio Max. Couldn't get him over to do this animation til today. I only had this design come to me yesterday. I asked Randy to come over last week to do a design of my "Scorpion" wheel, but when I saw how to do this one -and it was easier- I decided to skip the Scorpion [for right now].

This one is better. 1/2 is shown.

A working model will be forthcoming asap.

One opp. the other (4 hits per 360 degrees).

Or three in succession: 6 hits per 360 degrees.

http://www.newpath4.com/hammercam.gif[/url] =>



Gravity is going down.

My great thanks for all the help from Peter Linderman.
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Apology for the name misspelling Google is overzealous

The system didn't allow me to edit the post. Yesterday was a long day, and I thought I had your name correct Peter. Google still found you and that was what threw me off. I hope you see some shades of Johann Bessler in the Hammer Cam somewhere.

Maybe you can apply some of my device movements to his.

Thanks to everyone else here at Energetics Forum for all the great help also. I would list your names too but I might misspell them also. So maybe I'll quit while I'm ahead this time!

Virginia's Ham, the Hammer Cam

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