From Dale Pond's website:
A major research institution (MRI) has recently announced the discovery of the heaviest chemical element yet known to science. The new element has been tentatively named Governmentium.

Governmentium has 1 neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

Since governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected as it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact. A minute amount of governmentium causes one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would normally take less than a second.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of three years; it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. In fact, governmentium's mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause some morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.

This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to speculate that governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass.

Unfortunately I can't access youtube today , maybe tomorrow. Thanks for the bigger picture, can see it clearly now .

This kind of thing make me wonder why western people do not believe the existance of ghost or human and ghost interaction yet. Human can eat glass, body torn apart and put together, heart removed without dying, man create fire, create lightning, I guess this video should give alternative view for skeptic.


Confusing . Isn't this a proof that current atom theory is broken?

Next time do a little research before posting.
See 2nd item listed in a google search

You should provide a link to the source of the information, not copy/paste it without providing the source.
If you are copy/pasting, that should be place into a quote box so others are aware you are not using your own words.
check out the icons above the message creation box ..
First highlight something and then click an icon, those allow you do the things I'm speaking about.

Governmentium is not a real anything.

You really confused sucahyo about your post, I hope he reads this one.
Had me looking, did a couple searches... sucahyo was too busy ..

Have a good day.

Transmutations validate there is more going on than current Physics has any clue about.
Since the current physics can't explain transmutations.
This must mean alchemy that is REAL, not just a fantasy.
Something has to give.

Thanks for that .

@barbosi, Maybe you should let us know or notice that it is posted in Dale Pond's website in the jokes section:
Zen of Sarcasm

It is also interesting that succesfull transmutation is done in water. Maybe transmutation can also happen without 200 degree constrain in cold fusion or spark in bingo fuel. What Schauberger mention about shaking a carbon dioxide in a water container to make hydrocarbon should be studied more.

Electromagnetic Anisotropy
great stuff.
Im still trying getting up to speed .

Been on the northerns light plane yesterday!
I didnt see the green glow (it showed itself but not on my side of the plane)
but I saw the graymist, which is the oposite charge matter hitting the pole yes that right if the matter coming from the sun is the wroung pole it (they say) bounces off into space, also the green glow has dark lines in it!
(think crookes tube).
I cant help thinking that our preseption is off, Our body does not need the extra info to survive, that the dark lines are the Frames per second. But this i can show you with the stracc effect(stripes) with a light tude(will do a video)

We got up real high and i could see the arc of the earth real good we had all the light off, the sky was............more than i have ever understood before bigger more beautiful........

One thing I found out that hit me like a ton of bricks is the north star!!
if you get a camera on the north star with a very long expo.time the HOLE sky with draw a cirle around the north star, it does not move. Now i find that very interesting lets say the cosmos is a vortex spiral and the north star is the top of it and we are 2/3 down the spiral, then if you have a pyramid on the dimenstions of the cosmos the energy will focus 2/3 down the middle!
Well its just a idea.but i like it
ASD Planetarium: The Reasons for the Seasons
half way down a picture

Glad you are back Bodkins and Sorry to hear you saw no green lights.

The north star.. is it not only visible from the northern hemisphere? It's the north star .. it's North.
At some point on the southern hemisphere you are not going to see the north start, how did they navigate the seas without a visible north star?
For reference see link given us by Bodkins for ASD Planetarium: The Reasons for the Seasons.

Electromagnetic Anisotropy, Perspective or the location of the viewer, yes.
Motion and movement, for example,
a pendulum moves back and forth in a straight line or in a simple spiral or a vortex depending upon your reference point, the location of the viewer in space.

And below I go off on a wild tangent wondering ...
A straight line movement from one view point would appear as a a spiral or a vortex from another view point .. think about it.

A vortex from our view point is just a straight line movement from a another view point. .. So a vortex is straight line movement from point A to point B from a different perspective and why a vortex is so hard to visualize.
The shortest path is from point A to point B, the line of least resistance is usually a vortex. Is a vortex a straight line movement from point A to point B from a different location of view? Oh, I'm hurting my brain.

We could pretend that gravity and the magnetic field of the earth work together to create a vortex movement as the earth rotates on it's axis, but is it that easy to explain. Does that explain the movement observed?

Could an observed vortex movement be caused by a single force?
Yes it could if that force was being applied to our location as the viewer, was from another location outside of our view point.. A point in space.

A force, you could call it a friction or drag, between our location in space and some other location in space causes a vortex in our location or view point.
Some thing causes the vortex to happen in our location as the viewer.
Can gravity, magnetic fields etc from earth organize and maintain a vortex movement.

Perspective, we see a vortex. Is that vortex movement caused by a single force (name a force of your choice) between the standing still (space or whatever names) and the movement of the earth through space around the sun and rotation upon it's axis creates what we see as a vortex in our location in space as the viewer? Well DAH?!
The location of this force(s) (it's more like friction between here that where ever there is) that causes a vortex is where? Every where is the easy answer .. but is it the correct one?

I didn't get anything out of that except maybe a vortex motion could be caused by an unknown force.

ah, just
Randy

A picture to keep Bodkins happy - see the northern lights here!

How Coriolis effect effects a vortex and what determines clockwise and counter clockwise rotation.
There isn't a wrong way vortex, they rotate in either direction in nature. I thought it might be otherwise.

Source link: Types of Vortices

Thanks John
Hope your finding the book insiteful sorry everyone my spelling crap!
great north star post Randy, you see it the way I do,Yes trying to think waaayyy out of the box will result in your brain hurting,
got some more water blowing uploading I did it last week,

YouTube - water blowing

john the picture is now my background

The "wind" is moving the water until the spark starts?
Two different stresses, the wind is replaced by the spark?

Do you smell ions? You can generally smell them if it is an ion wind.
Don't electrocute yourself trying to smell ions now.
Oh oh oh.. whoops it doesn't have to be ions.. water is diamagnetic
and is repulsive against a magnetic field, but that does not
explain the "wind" effect upon the water going away.. unless
the magnetic field weakens when the spark starts?
But the isn't a magnetic field unless the current if flowing, right?

Just watch your gray theory video Bodkins, I see similarity in Schauberger book that explain the water cycle. Water that absorbed by earth will sink deeper until it meet earth magma heat, where it will dissolve into H2 and CO. the H2 will rise upward and bonding every mineral/salt it meets on it's way to the top. This mineral/salt will supply nutrition to the plant at the top soil.

This is book that explain some property of shape:
http://www.cosmo-energie.de/Heilige%...ShapePower.pdf, Dan A Davidson.


What if things that move water is diamagnetic air?

Sorry easy way of answering

Dan a. Davidson - Shape Power
a friend sent me this about the same time you put it UP

Schauberger book
I have so much to read its like learning EVERTHING all over again,I understand sucahyo that if water takes CO2 down,Oil maybe part of the CO2 cycle?

I feel that the science world in isolated from nature and sometime very isolated from the people of the world, Its like humanity has stop looking for truth, Once people understand(I love that word) or have a understanding of there connection to the ^Aether^/GOD/CREATOR things will change. Branden sent me the shape power doc. and he also sent me this Harmonic Energy Exchange Device - US 20080191580

Download it and read it! its all here the electet the sphere the earth,
The stuff hitting the planet from space/sun is radiant energy and like bedini said the energy we are working with is nerve energy, its the same stuff hitting the planet thats in your brain!!!!! the potential difference from space to the earth ground.
is just a bigger brain system, lighting is how we see it on the earth but its the same in your head. AS ABOVE SO BELOW.
as for as the northern light in people check out HIGH VOLTAGE photo of people, people have a different colour!
Kirlian and Aura Photography - Crystalinks

full patent found 20080191580, without a sign up required. bookmark this site !!
PAT2PDF - Free PDF copies of patents: Download and print!

Bodkins, sucahyo
About the Blowing water.
It follows PP that the "wind" would stop as the spark starts.
One stress gives way to another stress that takes it's place.
That goes along with different kinds of sparks, static and ions, different stresses..?
There are so many things that can be happening all at the same time.

I was wrong. I said you can smell ions.. No, you can smell Ozone.
I did not find cold or cool air related to ion lifters.
I've read some where that there is debate about if a lifter really is
moving air via an ion flow or is it something else moving the air.
A stress could be moving the air with some ions tagging along.
Knowing what it is or what it is the nature of it, might allow using that
information to increase strength or channel it.
This shows a lifter and the wind blowing out a flame.
UFO Lifter

OZONE and NEGATIVE IONS: Frequently asked questions
An air ioniser (or negative ion generator) is a device that uses high voltage to
ionize (electrically charge) air molecules. I'm curious what is being ionized in
an ion engine for space Ion Propulsion? (never mind..)
See this one Ion propulsion .. tesla-powered ion motor.

These are not lifters.
ion thruster IV
YouTube - ion thruster IV
YouTube - ion thruster III

If it is not ions and not magnetic .. knowing more about the properties would
be a good thing.
Ruling out diamagnetic/magnetic effect via a paper clip or something on a string
to test for magnetic field around non-sparking wire?
sucahyo showed video of paper being attracted to wire, that could be static
charge.

Could you not use a candle just as well as water?
If I remember correctly, a flame is diamagnetic also.. that's does get any
answers magnetically .. A flame has it's own little world of stress fields.
How does shape or the geometry of the HV effect the moving of water.
If the HV is a catalyst creating the wind or is it the direct cause of the
wind? If a shape changes the strength of the wind that might give clues.

Folding or taping AL foil to shapes might be good to test shapes.
Triangle, Sphere, pyramid, tetrahedron, Octahedron

Other shapes to feed your mind, eye-ball these.
Hypercube - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Simplex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Convex regular 4-polytope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cross-polytope - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do not stare too long at this image, it will warp your brain

Nice link for patent download .

I do smell ozone during my experiment.

About Harmonic Energy Exchange Device, it is interesting that it work between 4.5 to 7.5 MHz. A bit similar to Konstantin Meyl 7 MHz resonator. Schauberger mention that a correct procedure of fertilizing land is by neutralizing the polarity of the land at the point where the plant will grow. By creating a thin separating layer ground will be kept negative and air will be positive.


About shape, that remind me of matter build in shape.

About vortex experiment:
Alexandersson - Living Water - Viktor Schauberger and the Secrets of Natural Energy (1990), page 129:

Sir william crookes understood the spiral motion too.
Crookes radiometer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Randy With do the candle/paper clip exp. when I can(thursday).I think Konstantin Meyl is the same thing but with a second sphere. In the same way that you now when someone is looking at you, from behind you!

LOL. So true.

the ideas about the candle, etc was to help pin more tails upon the donkey .. until it stops looking like a donkey... rule out what it is or isn't. more info
means less doubt. allows more focus researching.

Have you guys read this post here by Mutten in High Voltage from Thin Air? , read the next post of Mutten also.
Sounds like the body is pushing upon the stress field around the circuit via
whatever stress field is around a human.

sucahyo,
Oh, l do like the leveraged power finds like "influenced particles 130 times more strongly than gravity" .. I would have remembered read about that.
That force is there, just must be canceled out outside of a vacuum some how.
Just because you smell Ozone does not mean it explains the entire effect or
then again it could. This stuff they call electric likes to come in PAIRS of effects. Does it not? start thinking about pairs.
Wild guess, Isn't static always around electricity to some degree? I don't know.
Pairs: bodkins' two kinds sparks
Does magnetic go with static?
What pairs up with the ions, static?
I'm not saying there isn't more than pairs, it a little easier to find a pair than
multiples..

Ren, might know how to figure out where to plug in the juice into this thing?
We could take that talk to Imhotep's forum if you can help me. I'm scared of it http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o.../flyBack01.jpg
I could crank up a video of it, if that might help.

I'm not sure I posted this in this thread ..
another example of the unexpected (but should be excepted)
These are rare images of the magnus effect of water following around a cylinder .. Remind you of anything?

I wont go off topic here mate, but this page might help?

Sam Goldwasser's Flyback Transformer Circuit

Havent had too much experience with flybacks yet.

cheers Ren seen it before but think I didnt understand it but now i do after playing with one of sometime.

Randy
Back in the days of the Imhotep light stuff I did, things got weird its about the time I started thinking on the lines of energy field around me and the time I start reading sir william crookes stuff,
I had lots of videos on my old youtube that i had to drop because the band i was in whated the channel for music stuff not me playing with lights!
Will repeat it all in time,
And I think that ion IS statis after playing around theres dust all over my stuff and i get a shock for metal too!!
also if i get one of the flyback working with the ren link I will post you one i have 4 flybacks(lots of tv in skips LOL)
do you have a sg fan?

sucahyo
been reading the occult stuff CHeers its real good

I still don't finish reading occult science too, have to read it slowly, and I imagine will have to read the Schaepeller book even more slow ....
Reading occult science made me look at atom theory in different perspective.


I come accross video:
"The Extraordinary Nature Of Water - Based On The Theories Of Viktor Schauberger"
video link posted here:
Condensation-Induced Water Hammer


This video show how water spray create electricity. I think this kind of electricity is like the opposite of ion wind. Instead of the charge moving the water, the moving water is generating the charge. Wether the charge is the same as our ion wind is something we should find out.





Edit, just found out that the name is:
"Kelvin's Thunderstorm"
Lord Kelvin's water-drop electrostatic generator

Here is another reference of kelvin water dropper:
High voltage device: Kelvin's Thunderstorm
Electrostatic device: Kelvin's Thunderstorm, 'Inline' version
Kelvin water dropper « MrGreen.Biz


Anyone tried electrostatic motor with ion engine?
Technology museum
Build an Electrostatic Motor
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/pftm2.htm
Super Simple Electrostatic Motor


About vortex, just an idea, if water processed in vortex has greater effect than water processed using magnet, how about fuel. Many already confirmed the increase in performance of engine with magnet in it's fuel line, including me. What if we flow the fuel using Schauberger method, it may make the fuel homogen and make it easier to burn?

hi
I have done the candle hv exp.
the problem is my camera is crap and cant see any thing because of the single light candle .
Right so i have to wrte it up, first i put the bottom end of the flyback to the candle the flame moves over the top of the wire if at right angle, so you get the flame as usual but at the point the wire is at right angle the flame moves towards the wire and looks to me like its puts over the top of the flame!

next the cup end of the flyback. This will blow the candle out if i move it towards the flame.

next both cup and bottom end 3in apart no spark or purple so called plasma.
But if i move the candle in, the purple plasma will start

next a spark going in a 1in gap without candle, if i move the candle in the spark stops but the sound of the spark is there.

sorry this is all i can do at this time,i have crack my wrist and in pain, will try and repeat with a camera.
take care all
Rx
thank for all the download stuff (free energy mags) randy people need to read this stuff

I hope you can get well soon. That is interesting effect .


I done some Schauberger experiment on copper, I notice something strange when I try to put copper in flower container. The leaf directly on top of copper tube with curled wire become dead overnight . I guess Viktor Grebenikov effect (the reason I post this here), bad influence of wasp house may be easier to replicate than what I expect. Don't know if it caused by the tube or by curled wire.


The next day, the whole leaf become yellow. Forgive the picture, I don't realize i take it at wrong angle.



Here is a video about how I confused a figure 8 winding getting dynamic resistance, while it actually happen because weak battery in my meter.
YouTube - weak battery causing weird coil resistance reading


I just remembered about what Peter Lindemann write about spinning ball.
http://www.free-energy.ws/pdf/spinning_ball.pdf
I just see the relation between the way thing want/need to move in spiral with this. By rotating the ball the ball will have less resistance from air and from gravity. Like Viktor Schauberger notice on the movement of water in river or how trout can swim against the stream or jump upstream in a waterfall.

I think the answer is in spiralling movement. It may affect not just water, but also other thing in micro or macro level, including ball. Maybe this can be applied in electricity or magnetism too.

A different CLASS of electret .. not really an electret at all.
To use a different name or class it's petroelectricity or petroelectric energy.
Key phases: Self-Potential , semi-conducting , High-k dielectric

Understand this is NOT an electret and has a dynamic positive / negative terminals. Up being positive and down is negative, gravity related.
A cell flipped upside down will change continue to be positive on the top and negative on the bottom terminals. (see 196. Gravity Vector Sensors.)

These could be created WITHOUT using an initial HV charge.
John Hutchison uses HEATing, I'm not sure if he used HV to create his batteries.
Forget SMALL, large cells are just fine, 1 foot cubes for each cell?

Brown speaks of creating these without heat and without HV, both of
which would probably only enhance the end product.
The thought of creating something without heat and without HV is what is important.. Backyard mixtures ???
Lack of heating and HV is replaced by over-all SIZE of each unit?

Unlike a electret, it is not created via a "charge" or initialized via HV.
If instead of a rock, a mixture of some kind that solidifies could be found.

Unlike an electret, can delivery relative high current.
(Brown never states what the "current" is, just it is larger than a electret)

Unlike an electret, this is the battery instead of something due to low current can only be used to charge a battery.
Unlike an electret, can act like a battery and be charged and stores energy.

Unlike a battery, more like an electret, it does not use itself up or require recharging.
Brown speaks about using pulses and diagrams a circuit, but NEVER tried it stating: "It is assumed that output voltage would decay after each pulse, as Fig. 2." This could cause SPIKES in current and voltage , we don't know. It was never tested.
Everything Brown did was with constant NON-PULSED voltage, no pulsed stress fields that might create SPIKES??!!!
Can this be pumped like a radiant circuit?
If a mixture can be found, does geometry of the cell focus the energy flow?
Brown speaks of ordinary Portland CEMENT to create cells stating:"The relatively low resistance of the Portland cement (binder) may provide a high current output."

Ref: Library of Archives Brown's Stuff
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Unexplained, voltage is too high,.. not explained by known physics
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If a magnetic field has spin or an electric current has spin, then that spin has a direction which depends upon the direction of current flow.
On a coil, when the winding hits the end and start back upon the coil,
that winding is going back upon the previous winding and has a reverse spin.
Each winding has a reverse spin of the previous winding.
If said spin is clockwise around the wire, as it is wound toward the other
end of the coil that clockwise spin is counter to the previous winding.
This seems to be counter productive and can't be helpful to moving the flow along?

A toroid coil is unique in TWO ways, it's a toroid shape and the windings ALL go in one direction without reversing. A spin around all the windings are in the same direction relative to each other.

Not having a clue and thinking out loud
Randy

@ vortex - when we 'don't have a clue' and reserve self judgement, the conscious mind is less likely to interfere with subconscious impressions.. I've done all my best thinking while daydreaming.

And what you said sounds right. Tesla said those in the art wind a coil up the spindle to the top. Stop, reverse slightly back but mostly straight down to base, then wind to top again.

I never had the patience, or was it time. :-)

Y'all?
Here is some interesting information I didn't get from the book. The book is also available here but is it worth the money for the one missing page?

Link; The Physics of the Primary State of Matter by Karl Schappeller - 12/17/08

Be sure to scroll on down the page to see the "extra info."

We are all getting enlightened.

Warren
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