The Physics of the Primary State of Matter

Bodkins · #**151** (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

Source page 48 issue #23

Thats what Im doing with the next electrat, was talking with braden and we had the idea too put little pin on the Hv ^ input when cooking slowy.
Also on the lines of Geometrey like pyramids and pulsing it is key!

Inquorate · #**152** (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 09:26 PM

Can't get to them on my phone, will try get someone local with pc to download for me. Ta

Vortex · #**153** (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Inquorate

Can't get to them on my phone, will try get someone local with pc to download for me. Ta

Sorry, I didn't think about that.. I keep forgetting you use your phone.
Your eyes and fingers (I mean thumbs?) must get a real workout

Inquorate · #**154** (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 12:40 AM

Yeah my thumbs mainly. My phone has a qwerty keyboard so it's not so bad. Or wasn't until 3 days ago when my lab assistant ATE...

q, w, a, s, z, x, <function> ie to access number keypad, asterisk, comma etc, <calander> and <caps> buttons..

I managed to glue back on the menu/options, answer call, and home keys.

But the missing buttons require a sideways pirouette thumbnail joust maneuver which is frustrating.

My left thumb is becoming quite the ballerina.

Hehe. Grrr. Sigh.

A custom nokia E71, I swear by it. Often.

Vortex · #**155** (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Inquorate

Yeah my thumbs mainly. My phone has a qwerty keyboard so it's not so bad. Or wasn't until 3 days ago when my lab assistant ATE...

q, w, a, s, z, x, <function> ie to access number keypad, asterisk, comma etc, <calander> and <caps> buttons..

I managed to glue back on the menu/options, answer call, and home keys.

But the missing buttons require a sideways pirouette thumbnail joust maneuver which is frustrating.

My left thumb is becoming quite the ballerina.

Hehe. Grrr. Sigh.

A custom nokia E71, I swear by it. Often.

Put a diaper on that lab assistant and you might get some keys back

sucahyo · #**156** (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 03:57 AM

Assitant ate your key? LOL.

It seems everything alive will make a pattern, not just honeycomb, water too. Interesting, can you post some picture of the skin? Is it observable with naked eye?

I found a couple of interesting things in
Viktor Schaubergers books

Some important note:
- Diamagnetic material, copper, has property of creation, healing, growing, fertilizing. Is a factor of biomagnetism
- Ferromagnetic materia, iron, has property of destruction, sickening, halting. Is a factor of bio electric.
- water can move faster with sectional vortex copper cone.
- water can reduce temperature on horisontal vortex.
- water can have pulse, and if we move it according to it's pulse it will be alive.
- water can be used to generate electricity up to 22000Volt in capacitor. Iron will give different electricity than copper. The electricity will have the same electricity as we observe in radiant energy.
- water in egg shaped vortex can regain life or clean the air.

Picture:
another egg shaped vortex again

:

water in the middle is dead water from industrial waste:

Experiment worth to try:

So many related thing,
Viktor Grebennikov's explanation of CSE emating from rain water seems described well by Viktor Schaubergers.

Also find an electroanisotrophy explanation:
Electromagnetic Anisotropy

Vortex · #**157** (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sucahyo

Assitant ate your key? LOL.

It seems everything alive will make a pattern, not just honeycomb, water too. Interesting, can you post some picture of the skin? Is it observable with naked eye?

I found a couple of interesting things in
Viktor Schaubergers books

Some important note:
- Diamagnetic material, copper, has property of creation, healing, growing, fertilizing. Is a factor of biomagnetism
- Ferromagnetic materia, iron, has property of destruction, sickening, halting. Is a factor of bio electric.
- water can move faster with sectional vortex copper cone.
- water can reduce temperature on horisontal vortex.
- water can have pulse, and if we move it according to it's pulse it will be alive.
- water can be used to generate electricity up to 22000Volt in capacitor. Iron will give different electricity than copper. The electricity will have the same electricity as we observe in radiant energy.
- water in egg shaped vortex can regain life or clean the air.

Experiment worth to try:

So many related thing,
Viktor Grebennikov's explanation of CSE emating from rain water seems described well by Viktor Schaubergers.

Also find an electroanisotrophy explanation:
Electromagnetic Anisotropy

Firstly nature does not abhors a vacuum. Life/nature would not exist/function without vacuum. Changing from hot to cold is vacuum forming movement.

Mind game question: in the vastness of all of space, a vacuum, what keeps a planet
from exploding into the vacuum of space that surrounds it.. the weak force
called gravity? Has anyone seen this explained in "today's physics" some where?

I know Grebennikov speaks of "human felt" (can not be metered) energy from water (rain / shower) .. I'm not able ti finger where Schauberger speaks of this kind of energy. Schauberger speaks of lots of energies.

Ebook "The Energy Evolution - Harnessing Free Energy from Nature" (EEdoc)
sucahyo's noted "Experiment worth to try" image is found on page pdf#26/doc#13 of EEdoc and the "Spiral Charge Collector" in that image can be seen on Page pdf#28/doc#15

Quote:

Source pdf #23/doc#10 of of EEdoc
For more than a century it has been known that water emits ionising radiation,
if it is discharged through a system of straight jets under pressure (see
figs. 1-36). Hitherto unknown, however, was the following: If these rays are
braked by a filter composed of fatty substances (paraffin wax) and conducted
in bundled form into a vacuum-tube, then they incandesce on the inner
surfaces, producing a dark red, strongly pulsating glow when the tube is
earthed. This effect is similar to sheet-lightning. If these rays are amplified in
Leyden jars and then conducted into inflammable liquids or gases, they ignite
the latter.
This is how the fire started in the Hindenburg, which was filled with
hydrogen and became earthed when its ballast-water was released. The American airship, the Akron, which was filled with helium, collapsed
(imploded) and crashed on a cool and misty morning, because for hitherto
unknown reasons the helium-filling reverted to water.

This is NOT speaking of a Lord Kelvin's influence machine / electrostatic.
burning inflammables and helium transmuting to water
This sounds very much like PP ..
Both of these mean a 1,800 times change in volume (expansion or contraction)... that's power ...

In a chemist catalysis .. it's like a seed of growth, which starts or helps start an action.
We are looking for a different kind of catalysis. 'bio-catalysts' as in catalysts that interact with matter triggering / tickling a reaction ..

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Source Page pdf#36/doc#23 of EEdoc
To his
huge astonishment, he confirmed my assertion that metals of all kinds actually
grow. This should be understood as the incarnation of ions, which for the
first time correctly explains the generally accepted concept of 'growth'.

Who is this Goethe? What's Goethe full name?

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Source: page pdf#39/doc#26 of EEdoc
It would take too long here to enumerate all the catalysts with various functions, which as Goethe already recognised, form the 'connecting'
(emulsifying) bond. They are ray-forms, upon whose function the development-disturbing rising temperature gradient and the developmentfostering
falling temperature gradient depend. Paramagnetic catalysts act
decentratingly diamagnetic catalysts concentratingly. This fact alone pinpoints
the incorrect form of development, which ultimately results in the
destruction of atoms. Wise Nature, on the other hand, proceeds by way of
atomic transformation, which from, a biological viewpoint is the exact opposite.
Pressure and fire technology therefore produce retrogressive atomic
energies, whereas implosion technology generates super-powerful, forwardthrusting
atomic energies, i.e. an almost 100% formative and levitative force.
And so the question arises, what actually is a catalyst?

Very interesting from Electromagnetic Anisotropy: "One may therefore surmise that it is Vacuum itself that flaunts a form of electromagnetic anisotropy - similar to the anisotropy exhibited by many crystals."
anisotropic or anisotropy means it has an order to it.. like
wood is stronger or weaker against the grain than with the grain.
Air is not anisotropic because it is the same from any angle.

marxist · #**158** (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

Who is this Goethe? What's Goethe full name?

in German:
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - Wikipedia

in English:
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bodkins · #**159** (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 09:25 PM

I have not read any of the posts

Hi all
been setting up my sg fan to run some lights and play, and just to get my ground warmed up,

I did a video talking about my the charge on the little fan 200volts,
BUT you need to tune it and when you get it right the fan sounds like its hitting somethin,
What i really like this the one dot and the fan its self, watch it its weird!
YouTube - Real Sg Fan Voltant!!

honeycomb
cant get picture from work will look into it! we also use a harmoic scaple

which i only saw today,

ben I have no mmmm mmm mmm mmkey,on mmmy keyboard.

sucahyo · #**160** (**permalink**) 03-21-2009, 06:58 AM

Downloading the video now

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Originally Posted by Vortex

I know Grebennikov speaks of "human felt" (can not be metered) energy from water (rain / shower) .. I'm not able ti finger where Schauberger speaks of this kind of energy. Schauberger speaks of lots of energies.

How about the one I post on other thread?:

The Energy Evolution - Harnessing Free Energy from Nature
page 43 (56 in acrobat reader).

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In every respect, experiments with this formative and levitative (synthesising) current produced surprising results. Thus, for example, 2,000,000 volts per drop of water, which were measurable, visible and palpable, and therefore incontrovertible, could be freed with appropriate charge-releasing devices. With 50 pairs of needle-jets about 200 million volts can be produced for virtually nothing, for which today's science requires giant machines. Even then it can only produce an exceptionally disintegrative (analysing) current, which has life-negating properties. This is to be differentiated from the formative and levitative, therefore life-affirming, functions of the synthesizing current mentioned elsewhere.

A few examples of applications should explain in general terms the nature of this novelty, still wholly unknown to contemporary science. If this current is conducted into vacuum tubes, then they emit a strongly pulsating blood-red glow horizontally along the elongated transverse axis and a dazzling, motionless, colourless and temperatureless radiance vertically up the elongated longitudinal axis, which fills the whole space. If the horizontally emitted current is first accumulated in a Leyden jar and conducted thence into petrol, then a tongue of flame is produced and the higher the accumulated charge, the longer the flame. If this current is conducted through strongly insulated resistances, then cool, juvenile water, free of other ingredients is produced, which exhibits an uncommonly high dissolving capacity and cohesive power. Conducted into a hinged lever, which hangs down, this current stands it upright. It also causes pendulums to gyrate in peculiar looping, twisting movements.

If this current is introduced into ordinary water, then the water becomes cool, dense and specifically heavy and its ion-count increases many thousandfold. It such water is drunk, then every kind of pain ceases almost immediately. After prolonged consumption of such water both mental and sexual potency increases in a truly striking fashion. Even the impotent will regain their potency. Kidney stones, gallstones and accretions of similar nature are dissolved and expelled in the form of grains or mucous. Rheumatic pains disappear completely after a few weeks. Venereal and malarial bacteria are eliminated and passed out of the body in bloodstained urine. In short, under the supervision of doctors, no affliction has yet been found which has been able to offer any resistance to this life-current. Even malignant cases of cancer improved quite remarkably. These experiments were discontinued, because the secret state police intervened owing to rising indignation amongst the medical fraternity.

amigo · #**161** (**permalink**) 03-21-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sucahyo

- Diamagnetic material, copper, has property of creation, healing, growing, fertilizing. Is a factor of biomagnetism
- Ferromagnetic materia, iron, has property of destruction, sickening, halting. Is a factor of bio electric.

You know this just does not compute in my head and I believe you have taken Schauberger's statement out of context as well, or at least did not write what it applies to.

Hemoglobin is Iron based and if the above was the case then the Nature made a terrible f*cking mistake to incorporate it into all oxygen breathing vertebrates.

As far as I could remember I was taught that Copper pots should not be used to cook in as they are toxic in a way, while Iron pots are fine, due to the above mentioned connection to blood.

My understanding is that when Schauberger wrote the above quoted about Copper and Iron he was referring to soil (ground) and the method of plowing fields, as he had designed and built a copper plow which was beneficial to the soil itself.

Bodkins · #**162** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 09:12 AM

Bens purple flasher setup!

marxist · #**163** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 09:28 AM

quote from another thread

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Originally Posted by Bodkins

.... be baking another electrat soon ....

I never made elektret and never made a magnet.
But they are making magnets by heating up the material (until red glowing). Then they put it into a magnetic field which magnetizes the material. While still in this magnetic field they cool the material, so that the magnetic orientation is 'baked into it'.
Old iron magnets lost their strength over time, but in the meantime the manufacturers seem to have found better materials and also perfected the manufacturing process.

I think making an electret should be done in a similar way. Mainly to apply a strong electric field while the pudding is slowly cooling down.
Maybe you want to put a Styrofoam-cap or Styrofoam box over it for thermal insulation while keeping the HV field constantly applied during a slow cooling period.

Vortex · #**164** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodkins

Bens purple flasher setup!

What do the colors of open to the air sparks tell us about what is happening, about the stress fields?

white
blue
purple hue (lighting bolt)
violet hue (some Tesla coils, why not all?)
red?
green

Am I missing a color for open air sparks?

Note this extreme HV spark (arc) is white, true electric arc
This one at the very end has a hint of orange 230 kV Vacrupter Switch Failure
Artificial lighting test 850 KV has a purple hue.

I read:

heating effect of the air around the arc results in color?
"in vacuum of space" a spark is white. Why then are most sparks white.. are they creating a vacuum around the spark?
high energy electron flow ionizes the oxygen in the air...thus the blue spark color
nitrogen in the air is much more stable and would emit a red color if it became ionized. What happened to the oxygen, if the the spark is red?

Has anyone seen anything that explains the why of maybe all these colors?

Inquorate · #**165** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 11:23 AM

Voltage vs current vs heat vs magnetic fields vs matter, and their ratios to each other? Which would mean aetheric state. Just brainstorming.

Bodkins · #**166** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by marxist

quote from another thread
I never made elektret and never made a magnet.
But they are making magnets by heating up the material (until red glowing). Then they put it into a magnetic field which magnetizes the material. While still in this magnetic field they cool the material, so that the magnetic orientation is 'baked into it'.
Old iron magnets lost their strength over time, but in the meantime the manufacturers seem to have found better materials and also perfected the manufacturing process.

I think making an electret should be done in a similar way. Mainly to apply a strong electric field while the pudding is slowly cooling down.
Maybe you want to put a Styrofoam-cap or Styrofoam box over it for thermal insulation while keeping the HV field constantly applied during a slow cooling period.

I was thinking of putting little pin in a styrofoam block with the little Hvpins sticking out over the wax!
I dont now what to do with a magnet when this is baking, people say right angles but where right angles! around the side over the top i dont now

cheers
marxist

Got a ev gary understanding video uploading this may help us to understand the magnet position!

Bodkins · #**167** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 12:47 PM

Randy YouTube - true electric arc
dont now about that one
but this one
YouTube - 230 kV Vacrupter Switch Failure
if you stop it at 18 seconds you can see the two parts of the spark!

also think the YouTube - 850 KV
has the two parts in it already.

Bodkins · #**168** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 12:57 PM

So we Got wind

off the flyback, the flyback is stressed so this pushers the air stress,and if the planet shoots out stress like the flyback and this stress meets another stress like cold/hot, wet/dry air you get wind!

marxist · #**169** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodkins

....I dont now what to do with a magnet when this is baking ...

Me neither.
I just wanted to point out the parallels between magnet making and electret making.
Namely the application of an unchanging (i.e. static) maximum (stress)field (i.e. max. field strength, minimum distance and constant direction) taking care to keep the field present during cooling.

Thinking further about the parallels between the two processes, I see it like this:
One needs a static magnetic field (= moving current) for making magnets and this makes me believe that one needs a static electric (HV) field (= moving 'three guesses') for making electret.

To put it another way: I don't see the benefit of a static magnet for electret making.
Naturally if somebody knows better, I'm looking forward to learning.

Bodkins · #**170** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 01:53 PM

I dont think a magnet is static Marxist

marxist · #**171** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 01:59 PM

I agree. I don't think that either.
I meant a magnet in a fixed position (as opposed to a 'moving magnet') ...
It's difficult (for me) to talk about this stuff in a precise way.

Bodkins · #**172** (**permalink**) 03-22-2009, 02:16 PM

I find that too my friend,Im working on a way of putting this stuff on paper!

barbosi · #**173** (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 01:10 AM

Somehow I find this thread the closest to post this:

YouTube - New John Chang video

I apologise in advance to anyone thinking of me hijacking the thread.

sucahyo · #**174** (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by amigo

Hemoglobin is Iron based and if the above was the case then the Nature made a terrible f*cking mistake to incorporate it into all oxygen breathing vertebrates.

As far as I could remember I was taught that Copper pots should not be used to cook in as they are toxic in a way, while Iron pots are fine, due to the above mentioned connection to blood.

My understanding is that when Schauberger wrote the above quoted about Copper and Iron he was referring to soil (ground) and the method of plowing fields, as he had designed and built a copper plow which was beneficial to the soil itself.

He has different explanation for that. He use silver plated copper for egg container. I'll try to find the closest answer from Schauberger as possible. Diamagnetic is also the property of ormus, which as you know has healing property and levitation.
Forgive the very long post. This answer a couple of question at one go.

If you don't have time, just read the bold part
Alexandersson - Living Water - Viktor Schauberger and the Secrets of Natural Energy (1990).pdf
page 81 (76)

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Schauberger strove to duplicate Nature's implosion through the design of his 'implosion machines', which he claimed were unique in that they needed no fuel.

In the case of a power generator, nine times as much energy in the form of fuel is required in the conversion to electricity or other kind of output. This system of plundering the resources of the earth, which has resulted in the murderous scramble for the earth's energy, is based upon the explosion motor, which operates centrifugallv. The implosion motor, however, is centripetally operated. It produces its own driving source through the diamagnetic use of water and air. It does not require any other fuel such as coal, oil, uranium or energy derived from atom splitting, since it can produce its own energy (atomic power) by biological means in unlimited amounts - almost without cost. It has been overlooked that energy is also bipolar and appears freely as part of the motion of the earth's medium - water and air, which have the effect of reviving energy. The type of energy can be either bio-electrical, that is destructive, or biomagnetic, ie. levitative.

Implosion and Diamagnetism
Schauberger tried to explain the natural phenomena that gave rise to the understanding of implosion power and its associated 'diamagnetism',16 and their opposites in the following way. Let us begin with the most elementary aspect: the basic elements hydrogen and oxygen, the chief components of water and air, oppose each other in the following manner Hydrogen (H) becomes active by cooling and combines with the passive oxygen (O) to produce a concentrated form of energy of lift and growth, 'biological magnetism'. This lifting power of diamagnetism operates in opposition to gravitation. In the case of hydrogen gas, which was used to fill the Zeppelins, the lifting force amounted to 2km per second. Above all the ' play of nature' turns on these two forces. Thus the biological magnetic or levitation tendency of the plant as it is attracted towards the light, influences its growth, while simultaneously increasing its weight and consequently the force of gravity. As iron and steel are attracted bv magnetism so the elements hydrogen and oxygen, essential for sustaining life, as also are the highly valuable trace elements - the 'chromosomes' of water and air - are attracted by diamagnetism. It is the opposite to electricity. Stale water is reactivated and increased in volume through biological magnetism.

Oxygen (O) is activated by heat (every oven burns better by adding oxygen!) and combines with the then passive hydrogen (H) to produce a dispersing energy which results in decomposition. This occurs with every explosion. It is produced whenever pressure, heating and explosion are used and is particularly found in weapon design and atom splitting, whether for war or peaceful purposes. Heat is the lowest form of water decomposing energy. As the molecules are redistributed, heat is generated (the predominating H combines with O, instead of O with H, as would be necessary for organic growth), then the water (as in the sap of plants and blood) becomes stale, lacking in higher quality matter (which burns up due to the excess of oxygen). Decomposition sets in, cancer develops and at the same time the decomposing element traces and pathogenic bacteria multiply, overcoming the natural restorative processes of higher forms of organic life.

The molecular build-up of cancer growth, causing fever, is stimulated by impulses of a physical, chemical and a psychic nature. All energy (heat, electricity, magnetism, or diamagnetism) is the result of bi-polar action, originating in mutual attraction. The whole universe is composed of living organisms, which with little effort can be forced into a straight-jacket by the human operation of using hammer, tongs, hatchet, screws or explosives, and with even less effort can be made to produce in abundance. It is not pressure, but attraction that the 'eternal woman' employs; so we can talk of negative pressure, or the negative electricity of diamagnetism.

The invention of the 'suction spiral' and the 'suction turbine' is based on the same principle as the twisting action of rivers, which is caused by the movement and rotation of the earth. In the river, the water is thrown hither and thither, spins, reels on itself, as the rope in the hands of the ropemaker. It forms whirlpools, eddies, spiral-forming currents, where the water rotates on its own axis and condenses. Vacuums are formed, creating a negative pressure, which affect the breathing of the water through suction, and this generates a cool air stream. This is the 'falling temperature phenomenon', which physics has not considered to be mechanically produced. It is, however, produced in the suction turbine, which rediscovers an ancient principle.

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In other words, they have been compressed back into their 4th dimensional origins, creating what Viktor referred to as a 'void' in the physical matrix, which in turn increases the inward suction of air to fill it. This is no inert, empty vacuity, however, but a living vacuum of huge potential, for all it now contains is pure neutronic energy, which in the light of the above should be the most primordial of life-cohering essences and therefore originate from higher, more sublimely dynamic realms such as the 5th. Freed of its function as the magnetic 'cement' of the now dematerialised particles, it interacts and energises the atomic nuclei of its physical diamagnetic counterpart, the copper components of the flying saucer, endowing them with antigravitational properties that contribute towards the craft's ascent.

Coats & Schauberger - Living Energies - Viktor Schaubergers Brilliant Work With Natural Energy Explained (2001).pdf
page 255 (261)

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Type A: Comprises bio-magnetism and bioelectricity, the former more commonly referred to as diamagnetism. It is the form of electro-magnetism that energises and animates all living organisms. Diamagnetic elements are copper, bismuth and hydrogen.

Type B: Comprises ferro-magnetism, usually just called magnetism, and electricity, which here we shall refer to as ferro-electricity to give both terms a common root. This type of electromagnetism is the one commonly in use in our technical world in electric motors and dynamos for the generation of electricity. Ferromagnetic elements are iron, cobalt and nickel.

Coats & Schauberger - Living Energies - Viktor Schaubergers Brilliant Work With Natural Energy Explained (2001).pdf
page 279 (285)

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When drunk fresh from the egg, the effect of this water is to break down all the body's excess acidity, which allows any over-acidified cells to breathe and take up oxygen, promoting a rapid return to health. When drunk the temperature of the water should not exceed +7°C and should be drunk in small amounts only. Above +9°C the quality of the water begins to deteriorate and precautions must be taken to ensure it does not reach this temperature.

However, there is a time limit on its drinking, because 24 hours after maturation its diamagnetic energies disappear, which affects it healing qualities. According to Viktor Schauberger this water can barely be differentiated from high-grade mountain spring-water and, if sipped slowly by a and, if sipped slowly by an impotent man, he will regain his potency.

Coats & Schauberger - Nature as teacher - New principles in the working of nature (1998).pdf
page 114 (121)

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Professor Ernst Ferdinand Sauerbruch discovered the organic low-pressure chamber that lies between the pleura and the surface of the lungs, which functions as a biological vacuum and enables the inhalation of breathable matter and the resistance-free expansion of the lungs. Professor Sauerbruch was not aware, however, that this phenomenon is only possible through planetary motion. In this process positive atmospheric pressure is countered by a negative pressure, variable at will, whose power increases by the square of the in-winding rotational velocity.

Moreover, if water is centrifuged, positive pressure increases in precisely the same measure, resulting in the lateral ejection of bipolar sediments. The naturalesque way, however, is to centripetalise them along the central axis. Otherwise a bioelectric nuclear axis surrounded by a decadent magnetic field will develop (as with electromagnets) at the same time as a diamagnetic, oxygenrepelling, but nonetheless iron-attracting magnetic function. In this case a pole-reversal occurs, i.e. an atomic excess pressure evolves in the longitudinal axis of a watercourse, which makes all respiration and insuction of diffuse, atmospheric oxygen impossible. The water inevitably suffocates, and with further direct or indirect over-illumination it decomposes due to the increasingly aggressive concentration of oxygen.

Coats & Schauberger - The Energy Evolution - Harnessing Free Energy from Nature (2000).pdf
page 184(197)

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Moreover; science uses paramagnetic material (steel, etc.), which with an increase in heat (heat is the lowest form of electricity) gives birth to additional decomposive energy (electricity). As a result of this finding experiments were also made to rotate water in meander-forms made of diamagnetic material (copper, bronze, etc.). Even diamagnetic wood can be used. Out of these experiments arose the doublemembrane, which with increasing radius automatically increases the flow-through velocity, if the angle of the alternately disposed slip-surfaces is flattened out towards the periphery.

Implosion - Viktor Schauberger and the Path of Natural Energy (1985).pdf
page 15 (17)

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Now then, when an organism that has been attacked by cancer supplied with diamagnetically charged, high grade water containing up to 90% energized hydro-carbons (and correspondingly less used up oxygen) the negatively charged diamagnetic reduction elements bind and emulsify the excess oxygen and inactivate it by cooling it. As a result, the fever recedes and that, which Prof. Warburg calls the Vital Force, is restored. It concentrates in new cells, forcing them to proliferate steadily, arrests the development of the adjoining cancerous cells, and finally destroys them. Cancer, which is the result of fire (i.e., over heating and combustion) can be cured only by diamagnetic negatively charged high grade water, as established already in 1935.

But although the production of such water would have benefitted millions of people, opposition supported by the medical authorities prevented the construction of water purification plants.

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Originally Posted by Bodkins

Bens purple flasher setup!

Can you post a bigger one? It is a bit hard to read.

Bodkins · #**175** (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 08:38 AM

YouTube - EV Gray Understanding
Im trying

Vortex · #**176** (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbosi

Somehow I find this thread the closest to post this:

YouTube - New John Chang video

I apologise in advance to anyone thinking of me hijacking the thread.

Holy Smokes .

NO ONE SHOULD MISS SEEING THIS VIDEO.
There is more to this universe than our current physics tells us
and that is what we are looking for.

Vortex · #**177** (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodkins

YouTube - EV Gray Understanding
Im trying

B-I-N-G-O

ah, wow. .. I'm starting to understand what you are saying Richard
and it feels good to know that my questions were not in vain.

MAKE THAT GREEN LIGHT DANCE

(Dancing to "Green Light" by John Legend)

and dang, before your video this below meant NOTHING.. I
had no idea why you were trying to tell me TWO TWO ...
I thought you might be rehearsing for a double-mint commercial

now I think I know what you meant here also.

Quote:

Randy YouTube - true electric arc
dont now about that one
but this one
YouTube - 230 kV Vacrupter Switch Failure
if you stop it at 18 seconds you can see the two parts of the spark!

also think the YouTube - 850 KV
has the two parts in it already.

Bodkins is Smokin'

GREEN LIGHTS .. In The Sky with Diamonds
Amazing Northern Lights Time Lapse
Aurora (Northern Lights)

Bodkins · #**178** (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 10:22 AM

Randy tonight Im going in a plane to see the northern lights, a plane just flighing around then home. Will post a video if I get any good shots,

Bodkins · #**179** (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by barbosi

Somehow I find this thread the closest to post this:

YouTube - New John Chang video
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I apologise in advance to anyone thinking of me hijacking the thread.

If you feel like posting post it,

this thread will end up Very boring if poeple that see it dont tell

amigo · #**180** (**permalink**) 03-24-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sucahyo

He has different explanation for that. He use silver plated copper for egg container. I'll try to find the closest answer from Schauberger as possible. Diamagnetic is also the property of ormus, which as you know has healing property and levitation.
Forgive the very long post. This answer a couple of question at one go.

See, I still haven't read any of those books (on my To-do list) else I would've remembered it. I did find references to Silver coated Copper elsewhere and so I see now that it's not really pure Copper. Plus Silver adds bactericide effect to the mix.

I'll really have to look into reading all those titles...one of these weekends, sigh.

Thanks