"Similar prinsiple with kundel magnet",
No sucahyo. kundel is using just magnets ..
Johnson and the Romag Generator are very different, using magnets in
ways not ever before done. Using the Magnetic energy .. not the magnetic flux of attract/repel

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You mean johnson using propietary magnet and won't work with normal magnet?

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No, not from what I understand, those two Johnson and Romag are NOT following the "normal" rules of magnetics.
You'll need to read some of the links I've posted. Those devices follow their own rules. Magnetic Current rules.

The "real" rules are not what you have been told.
What you have been told never explains The WHY it is a rule ..
This whole thread is about showing those new rules and a WHY.
I've been posting how the old rules do not fit reality in experiments and
hopefully supports the WHY that makes the old rule incomplete, misleading and confusing.

No, I sorry I did not explain it fully.
For example Johnson does reversals of magnetic forces creating a SPIKE in magnetic force ..
which is like the SPIKE from a coil collapse, but in magnetic force. He is using magnet current.
See here for links and details.

Sucahyo have you heard of Magnetolysis or Felix Ehrenhaft?
see Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles

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I see, I read more and I think I understand what you mean. I post some snapshot from Howard Johnson's The Secret World Of Magnets here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...7041#post47041


I will read your last link, never heard it, thanks .

For spike I guess this is the word:
"The repulsion of like poles represents particle activity which is quite
different from attraction.
The particles react with each other as they form two vortices that spin in the same direction. There is no reduction in the gauss count, which registers about three times as high as it does at the attracting end."

For current:
"Ampere was the first investigator to propose that the magnetism observed in permanent magnets is caused by tiny electric currents circulating within the molecules of magnetic material." Scientific American Jan. 89.

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Hi all I have the secrets of magnets in a pdf file only 3meg if anyone wants it.
sorry no read all the post sort on time but keep up the great work Randy its all pointing in the right direction

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Yes .. people should read your posting you give a link to.
Which reminds me I should x-ref my posting in that thread also here.
Food For Thought Heat/Magnets
it's a triplet Heat/Magnets/Electric they effect each other directly and indirectly.
I don't make the above statement as a common knowledge thing.

I mean there are interactions going on that isn't common knowledge or
at least have not been EXPLAINED or FIT the rules of Physics as we have been told.

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3D model of flux fields around a magnet.


(Image source: The Secret World of Magnets published in 2006, Ask yourself: "Why did it take until 2006?")
Please stay tuned, hopefully more will be uncovered.

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Image from video: Solar Particles and Earth's Magnetic Field
@ NASA - Archive

For lack of a better word or phase, call it a cone-shaped vortex (CSV)
Remember, there are 4 CSV vortexes.
The top is the entry point or input.
The bottom is the exit point or output.

The CSV TOPS of the vortexes are facing the Earth and
the CSV BOTTOMS are pointed out into SPACE.
The input energy into the vortex is coming from the Earth and being
expelled out of the bottom of the vortex into SPACE.
(see previous post for reference image)

This geometry of 4 CSV vortexes converging into points in SPACE,
hardly fits the PROTECTIVE magnetic flux "SHIELD" we have been told about.

I'm having are very hard time wrapping my head around what it would look like.

Have I blundered and with lack of sleep and I am drawing the wrong conclusions?

Help me out here ..
Randy

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I think what we have in the magnet is the carbon static field pulled apart so the ether spins the two parts of the field the N(hydrogen) and the S(oxygen) back to the centre of the bar.

Like the bedin coil will do the same thing pull the field apart then charge a battery with the movement of the H and O to the centre of the bar again, its against the stressfield of Atmosfear, thats way you need to find the sweet spot because of the stressfield you make in the bar fighting the atmosfear stressfield,

Randy the way i see it if you get the frequency of a spining magnet to match the comos alinement and frequecy then flip the poles the diamagnetic force will show up !!!!!
Its like the ticking of the comos clock if you change the poles on the next tick you let the spirit/force come into real force.
sorry very sort on time.Keep it up brother your doing a great job

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I don't get it then, NASA shows that the magnetic field of the Earth is like a traditional bar magnet's, when the traditional bar magnet does not have a field like that at all in reality?

So it would mean that if the Earth has a magnetic field like a bar magnet we have seen above earlier, with 4 vortices, then there would be a Bloch Wall half way (or so) slicing the Earth, somewhere maybe in the Bermuda Triangle (and on the other side near Japan, the Devil's Sea/Triangle)?

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First is a link to Magic With Magnetism H and O Stuff
Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles

Also i remenber reading about somecall eletrons being bounced off the earths magnetic field at right angles like the aurora borealis. they did it in the same region as the aurora but also over brazil. Which would mean that the field is at right angles in brazil

So it not a bar magnet, Well done Randy

no wonder people get lost in the Bermuda Triangle

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YouTube - Universal Awareness

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Definition: anomaly
deviation from the normal or common order or form or rule

Google single word: anomaly
... results give you 9,880,000 hits
Google two words: anomaly magnetic
... results give you 1,479,000 hits
Google two words: magnetic anomaly
... results give you 788,000 hits

The word Magnetic ALMOST means Anomaly.
A magnetic map is called a "Magnetic Anomaly Map"

Gravity comes in at second place (I'm guessing) in the Anomaly race.
It's pretty easy for science to poo-poo and make up reasons for anomalies in magnetic anomaly maps.
Gravity anomaly maps are a much different story.

200 nanotesla = US Congress and WHO Recommended limit for constant human exposure to electromagnetic Ref.Link
Oh .. explain to me how/who determined there was a health difference between electromagnetic and magnetic exposure.
Isn't magnetic from electromagnet equal to magnetic from non-electro sources, it's magnetic .. ????
Where are these differences explained and why they are different?

Major cities are over exposed to magnetic, without the electromagnetic added in..See map
Then The International Geomagnetic Reference Field: A "Health" Warning Revised, April 2005 basically tells you ...
our maps are totally messed up ...
because of "so-called secular variation" which has to due with direction
of magnetic force, not the strength of magnetic force.
They go on to tell you how they fudge the strength numbers using
coefficient values because of the secular variation. Say What?
(that's what I got out of it, maybe I'm wrong)

Anyway view a Magnetic Anomaly Map . Who uses these maps and what are they good for?

Gravity maps are much MUCH harder to get a hold of. ..
(with readable color coded keys, which provide meaning to the map)

For a clue as to why, view this gravity map of the moon

See anything strange about the gravity map of the moon?

Sounds logical, but that fails to explain why around Indonesia and south of Greenland there's HIGH gravity.

View world gravity map of 2003
USGS CMG InfoBank Atlas: Indonesia bathymetry
(Bathymetry is the study of underwater depth)

The point is, they are making it ALL up .. fudging numbers, making up reasons and pointing out anomalies ..

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This is great work... maybe.
Objective is to make a dynamo (Magnetoturbulence and Dynamos)
I question how results would directly support the current Earth model.

Building Laboratory Models of Planetary Cores.
We are told IRON is the center of Earth causing magnetism
why then is this model using a Copper Plated Aluminum CORE as the center?
Copper is diamagnetic
Sodium and Aluminum are paramagnetic
Nothing is ferromagnetic in the device.

Why are they rotating the core independently?
Does the current model of the Earth have a core rotating in opposite direction of the Earth?

Two 4m I.D magnets have been constructed to apply fields
up to about 0.02T to the system to study induced field
dynamics.
I guess this is to see if a little magnetism in creates a lot of magnetism out.
That's great, where is the Earth getting it's "little" magnetism from ?

University of Maryland Sphere Makes Magnetic Fields - Video - Popular Mechanics

I do not see how this will prove a ferromagnetic iron core creates magnetism if
no ferromagnetic metal is used in the device.

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why the strength of the Earths magnetic field has decreased by about 10 percent over the last 150 years and continues to do so.
Magnetic Field Weakening in Stages, Old Ships' Logs Suggest
Google Search

The Constants are not constant ...

Scientists ponder the problem with gravity
""I have been working on [the Pioneer anomaly] for more than 11 years now,..."
"If the anomaly is due to some new physical mechanism, this discovery would have a truly fundamental impact," Turyshev said.

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Bodkins and Amigo,
Bermuda Triangle and the Devil's Sea/Triangle..
Don't know. That's just it ..

I can't picture how the 4 vortexes would be mapped upon the Earth sphere.
Are the vortexes axis parallel to each other in opposite directions like the bar magnet?
They can not overlap but there is a flow from South to North and North to South, that does happen.
This must mean there has to be large voids between them, some where, unlike a flat bar magnet.

I found a city Aurora in Brazil but no borealis ...

Randy

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Randy I was reading a research paper on firing radiowaves at the earth magnetic field, They found that if you fired the radiowaves at right angles to the magnetic field the signal came backish, they is no aurora in brazil, but the Magnetic field is the same as the poles it goes straight up, the double vortex works they too. Im uploading 3 videos with the way i see thing happening it base on the stuff you have put forward and my understanding of time and life.



"If the anomaly is due to some new physical mechanism, this discovery would have a truly fundamental impact," Turyshev said.
We have a better understanding then they do!

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Bodkins, Please post link to what you were reading, "radiowaves at right angles",

Wrap your brain around this one.
c = "speed" of light = 186,000 miles / second
Constant = whatever speed of the observer
Space and time are NOT constant ..
but vary with the speed of the observer.

So:
Stationary
observer velocity = 0% c light = 186,000 miles / 1 second
observer velocity = 87% c light = 93,000 miles / 0.5 second or 186,000 / sec
observer velocity = 99.5% c light = 18,600 miles / 0.1 second or 186,000 / sec
observer velocity = 100% c light = 0 speed 0 time

Light/photons from it's perspective (it's the observer)
does not experience speed or time or have mass
There is NO traveling from point A to point B .. it doesn't MOVE.
Pretty COOL .....
Ref Video Reality Emerges from Consciousness

I've stop much, it's more like hunting for Easter eggs
Randy
Life is very weird only because we keep thinking it's what we believe it is
and it really isn't like that at all.

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Low-frequency waves and irregularities in the ionosphere : proceedings of the 2nd Esrin-Eslab Symposium, held in Frascati, Italy, 23-27 September 1968 by N. D'Angelo, European Space Research Institute, European Space Laboratory &#

I did have this book but I sent it to indorate and we lost it in the post!

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Found two sort like it.
J. Heading and R. T. P. Whipple
The Oblique Reflexion of Long Wireless Waves from the Ionosphere
at Places where the Earth's Magnetic Field is Regarded as Vertical
Phil. Trans. R. Soc. Lond. A April 3, 1952 244:469-503; doi:10.1098/rsta.1952.0012
Most of this thing is equations. You might get something from the words..
I didn't even try to read it.

The Ionosphere and Upper Atmospheric Electrodynamics
The ionosphere's influence on radio-wave propagation ...

Don't use the POST, use a carrier service, UPS, FedEx.

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YouTube - Primary Phyics part 1

This is the first part of three
The intraction of the Stressfields can be seen Everywhere.
Like boiling water you change the Fuel from matter to energy.Now this energy is a stressfield going from hot to cold. Once this field it hits another you will have change in the static field, because the energy in the active field is entering the static one.

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Richard,
Could you post some links or document the book titles your are referring to in your video.
I'd like to look into those things which you are referring to.

You are putting some pieces together, but I keep tossing new pieces all over
like pick-up sticks ..

Need Questions, fire sale going on now, get em while there hot
Randy

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This was reported in 1997, what happened to this? this requires a follow up.

Is Earth Pelted by Space Snowballs
NASA satellite suggest that Earth is bombarded every day by thousands of house-size snowballs

"We find objects coming in about the rate of 20 every minute,
one every three seconds," Frank said. "It looks like a small,
small two bedroom house and it weighs 20 to 40 tons."

Where's all the SPACE WATER coming from?
Connect the Dots.

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Satellite studies Plasmasphere

EUV Images of the Plasmasphere

plasmasphere movies do not make any sense.
Why does the donut change sizes?

Why does it seem like the plasma is moving towards the sun
and it's not streaming away from the sun.

The sattelite was a 2 year misson and we only have access to
6 movies of non-sequential days

Where's the fireworks?, we are told it's like a coment very large
tail/trail of plasma

EUV Select Bibliography

Follow up required to understand what it is we are looking at.


NSSA.gov stops reporting Magnetospheric and Atmospheric News under
this heading just before this satellite was put into orbit.. curious..

I'm

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YouTube - Primary Phyics part 2

once all the video are up i will put all the link i cant

this is what i have at hand

Chalice Well - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I know it's HARD man.
it's so unlike what we have been told .. the old thought patterns.
when you have that "FEELING" and you see .. there it is, here it is again.
but the ease of expression, what it is hasn't had time to sink in in
a way that makes it easy to speak about...

That's why I embarked upon this fact finding quest .. to find examples
where PP could explain a why and relationships to bridge the gap between PP and what we have been told.

I can relate, I'd would not be able to explain PP yet.
.. you have a better feel for PP than I do at this point.

It's like this, By some definitions of "word", the number of Eskimo words for
snow is approximately as large as the number of English sentences that can contain the word "snow".
It's like an Eskimo trying to speak about snow (PP) using the English language.

It's like a greased pig for me, I see it, I touch it, getting a grip on it is my problem. Each time I start to feel like I'm getting a hold on it, it slips away.

I need to get back to reading PP again.

I had just put down a post I'm working upon that involves King Arthur and the
Holy Grail. So you can imagine how your link kinda blew me away ..

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At time i cant talk about it , But when I find space in my head its easy.
YouTube - No Box

Surround your self with nature and it gets easyer.
Remenber to breath and think about breathing the air(oxygen) in and hits your lungs(earth).

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Information keeps slapping me in the face and I'm getting beat up here.
(it's like SLAP: wake up, see there, look at that .. See!? .. told ya so)

Listen to the Laura Lee radio interview with Callum Coats
Audio in ASX or Audio in ASF Source Link
Hear Coats say Schauberger believed in Primary and
Secondary Physics .. dualities / opposites

Schauberger's devices include both dualities.

In the audio interview @ 1:23:00 you hear Coats say that Schauberger most
of the time made use of a catalyst in his devices.

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This one is very special.. (I like anything to do with water)
Lorentz force and Water propulsion with out propeller
YouTube - Lorentz force and Water propulsion with out propeller

Woodward Effect.
Woodward effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Flux Capacitor


STAIF 2006: Andrew Palfreyman on Reactionless Drives (!! ?? !!)
STAIF 2006: Andrew Palfreyman on Reactionless Drives

Paul March on the STAIF 2006 Reactionless-Drive Presentation
Paul March on the STAIF 2006 Reactionless-Drive Presentation

wire wrap of special coil (Of special interest, ?coils?)
YouTube - wire wrap of special coil

Coreolis effect (very good video)
YouTube - Coreolis effect

Earth wind current (Stresses, Bodkins?)
YouTube - Earth wind current

Hamel Magnetic (what is this?)
YouTube - Hamel Magnetic

hyperbolic Vortex / Wirlwind Tornado Wirbelwind (Just cool to look at)
YouTube - hyperbolic Vortex / Wirlwind Tornado Wirbelwind

Induction Video (This for me, I need a visual)
YouTube - Induction

strange phenomena (star in a jar, Cool!)
YouTube - strange phenomena

Sorry about all the links, I couldn't help myself.
Randy

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