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Old 11-25-2009, 12:06 AM
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Worlds most efficient ferris wheel anybody? Runs so slow you don't stop to change people. But you only get to go around once.

If i do build it as intended i already have a name picked out. "Bedini 8100" May even throw in an 8100 turn generator coil just for kicks.

In reality though I still have to locate axle, bearings, and a flange to mount the rotor to the axle.i'm looking at getting an axle that I can easily find pulleys for, just in case i want to use the torque for a piston pump or something.

Hopefully the grainger store won't be closed.
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Old 11-25-2009, 02:53 PM
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A bigger wheel will give more torque. Much like putting a longer handle on a ratchet to loosen a tight nut. But you are sacrificing rpm to do it.
The number of magnets passing per second should be similar (all other
things being equal). The large wheel may run slowly.
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Old 11-25-2009, 05:52 PM
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Of course. The skate wheel Bedini's run at blinding speeds and the larger wheels run slower ( but more mass! ) . The magnet wheel is a resonant attachment, like a switch and an indicator, but less of a electric motor with torque and acceleration. A larger wheel would have much less stress on the bearings because it goes slower, but it would be heavier to carry around if you had to move (trust me), and a larger wheel would be harder to "get right" because lets say you use 20 magnets, thats 20 spaces that have to be identical, where a skate wheel Bedini would have 4 or so, and eyeballing it could be enough.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:30 AM
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Rick's new website and photos of the 10 coiler kit which is now available.

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Old 12-04-2009, 02:11 PM
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less than a novice.

Good day to all.
I really enjoy reading this forum. And i'd like to thank everyone for the great knowledge that is being passed on here. Can't say i've read every post yet.. But I will get to it.

I'm putting together my first bedini replica. I'm not at all an electrician.
Not joking about the electrician part.
but I fell in love with the idea of the Bedini ssg motor.

So I've put one together. For the moment it has 4 coils, two that are bi wound coils and two that are single wound coils.
One of the bi wound coils has two slave coils that tie into the same transistor.

The motor runs at around 300 rpm +/- . I can run it faster (I've had it up to around 600rpm) but it doesn't seem to help, only runs down the battery faster.
I have 1 7.5aH battery that I use for running. And three 600aH batteries that I charge.
The 7.5aH battery will charge to 13.8-14+ voltage, the 600aH batteries I haven't been able to get over 12.5 volts.
The solo bi wound coil pulls 130 milliamps (haven't tested yet what it gives on the other end.), the bi wound coil with two slaves pulls 135 milliamps, and puts out 70-75 milliamps. I haven't yet done the 1 ohmn test.
So anyway that's a little info on my system.
Here are a couple questions I have.
first does each coil need it's own circuit or is it fine the way I have it running where three coils run on the same circuit. Does it actually put out more potential if each coil has it's own circuit. I understand that not every coil needs a trigger coil.
Second question, How do you know when a battery has taken every thing it can and is charged.
and Third, does having more than one pulse coil on each coil actually give more potential current.
I'd like to get the system up to charging the 600 ah batteries a little faster and also higher than 12.5 volts.
I must say I am very impressed with the motors ability to salvage bad batteries as the three 600 ah batteries that I have all sat at 5 volts and would loose any charge you put in them in less than two hours know they hold 12.5 indefinitely.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:41 PM
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Hello, I am a new builder myself. I have a comment about the batteries that will not charge above 12.5 Do you have them connected in parellel across the output? Or do you charge 1 at a time? I have found that the batteries, if charged one at a time, will charge faster than if charged in parellel. That said, it has been my experience that these batteries will come to a plateau when being charged, say 12.45 volts, this is when I stop the charger and let the batteries sit for about an hour and then discharge them using the c20 rate. After it is are discharged, (not below 12.2), I stop the load test. I then wait for the battery to sit for about an hour, then start charging it again. If your motor is running correctly, and it doesn't look to be a bad setup, the batteries will start taking on more and more of a charge. After several charge and discharge iterations the battery will begin to increase its top charge plateau. I figure, and I am no expert, when they have recieved their top charge voltage when the batterey voltage tops out. I started with my batteries at 9 volts.. they desulfated, and held a charge at 12.25 volts. After 20 cycles as described above the batteries are now charging to 12.65. They now continue to climb. Hope this helps... I have 6 coils around a 6 magnet rotor, with the same configuration as you, All my coils are trifilar wound with one trigger for all. As for you other questions I'll have to think about cause I only know so much.

Sean
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:07 AM
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Hello,

I'm not sure whos all out there listening.... I have found that a magnetic switch in a wand can give you feedback on the workings of the motor. It has shown me a few flaws in my motor as far a symmetry. I have more magnetism coming out between different sets of coils. I believe I am seeing the south spike coming out between the coils as my light connected to the magnetic swith has different intensities with different poisitioning around the motor. If I place the switch on the core of my coils I get different light intensities around the rotor. My charge batteries have been charging at an average of 150% C.O.P., sometimes more, sometimes less.. Im not saying Im getting more total energy out than in, becasuse my power source is still plugged into the wall.. I hope to generate some interest on this posting again as my brother and I have come up with some good stuff. I am the designer and my brother builds all this stuff.

Sean

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Old 01-19-2010, 08:42 AM
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Mechanically triggered SG from harddisk

Since I have a couple of broken harddisk laying around I had plan to make a bedini school girl with mechanical switch. Just build it and run it today and....

Work at 60 RPM .

Only on repulsion mode though. Can not make it sustain using attraction mode.

Magnet are taken from two identical harddisk. The rotating part is the disc. The coil is harddisk head coil. Other component: NPN transistor, diode and 12V battery.

NPN transistor is triggered by mechanical means via 100 ohm on the base. No spark, it rotate . Timing is done via sticky tape lol.

Maybe I need to add weight...
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Old 01-20-2010, 03:10 AM
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Turn out I need use both repulse and attract trigger for my Bedini SG. I can not add too much weight (no space). Still turn slow and jerky.

YouTube - Mechanically triggered Bedini SG with harddisk component
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Old 02-26-2010, 01:58 AM
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For anyone who has not been involved with the Bedini SG group that was recently closed, I compiled the messages from John Bedini as he was posting them. I only have this from The end of Feb until a few days ago and it has a lot of valuable information that he has never really discussed openly before.

This link is the PDF: John Bedini SG yahoo group comments , it is 91 pages

It might take a few hours to go through this, but if you want to learn about the SG, it is best to hear straight from John.
I have re-enabled this document since it rightfully belongs in the public
domain as it ALREADY is in the public domain since every message is from
the Bedini SG yahoo group.

John Bedini SG here it is, 91 pages pdf.

I removed this document quickly after accusations came up that I copied
the posts from a private group, which actually never happened. Any
messages that were originally in a private group and were placed into this
document is because John placed them into the public Bedini SG group
himself. Therefore, I took them from the public group and placed it into
this document.

There is a lot of good information in this document that I would recommend
that anyone read this document that is interested in the SG.
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