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Old 11-20-2008, 05:28 PM
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One to One Transformer action of the SSG Bedini Motor

Ok so I thought I would investigate this one to one transformer SSG Bedini motor of mine.

Got my scope 2 channels and hooked up one end to the trigger side of the coil and the other channel to the energized coil side. Low and behold the voltages were in phase and almost exactly equal. When I say almost I really mean exactly equal, except for that one coil produced a slightly larger peek (slightly like maybe .2 volts) and the peek very quickly died down and H waves were identical.

So when we talk about what is happening on the trigger side of the circuit it really does affect the energized side of the coil. And that resistor is on the trigger side.

My guess is that if one was to put a diode in front of the resistor in the same orientation so that current can normally trigger into the base of the transistor, then when the field magnetic field collapses there will be a larger voltage spike... But Doing this is really hard on the transistor and it will Blow. To go around this I am thinking of the opto coupler or adding one diode and another resistor.

With adding one diode and another resistor, one could have one resistor value to control the Base of the Transistor (here you would put a diode in front of the resistor or variable pot in the orientation that the current can flow into the transistor base)... Then add a diode in series with a new resistor or variable pot in parallel to the other diode and resistor ... I will try to upload a Bit map or jpg.

What do you guys think? Does this make sense?
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:41 PM
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Ok so I thought I would investigate this one to one transformer SSG Bedini motor of mine.

Got my scope 2 channels and hooked up one end to the trigger side of the coil and the other channel to the energized coil side. Low and behold the voltages were in phase and almost exactly equal. When I say almost I really mean exactly equal, except for that one coil produced a slightly larger peek (slightly like maybe .2 volts) and the peek very quickly died down and H waves were identical.

So when we talk about what is happening on the trigger side of the circuit it really does affect the energized side of the coil. And that resistor is on the trigger side.

My guess is that if one was to put a diode in front of the resistor in the same orientation so that current can normally trigger into the base of the transistor, then when the field magnetic field collapses there will be a larger voltage spike... But Doing this is really hard on the transistor and it will Blow. To go around this I am thinking of the opto coupler or adding one diode and another resistor.

With adding one diode and another resistor, one could have one resistor value to control the Base of the Transistor (here you would put a diode in front of the resistor or variable pot in the orientation that the current can flow into the transistor base)... Then add a diode in series with a new resistor or variable pot in parallel to the other diode and resistor ... I will try to upload a Bit map or jpg.

What do you guys think? Does this make sense?
Interesting...


Makes me wonder if one could take a transformer coil and pulse it with solid state, trying different legs of the transformer...

I have a transformer that has different coils on it might make for an interesting experiment.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:21 PM
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Just a bit of fun

I was curious if it was possible to store the flyback from a single pulse in a capacitor and then discharge the capacitor before the next pulse came in, so the cap pulses at the same frequency as the coils...



I can with a neon triggered scr with 2uf caps! The caps charge up to about 90v and then they discharge into the battery before the next pulse comes in.




I'm not expecting a great charge with this method. Just a bit of fun!

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Old 11-30-2008, 06:20 PM
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yikes everything was getting really hot and I mean everything including the rotor!!! It wasn't drawing that much compared to normal operation (it normally runs cold) but it's incredible that even the rotor was getting hot!

oh well, fun while it lasted...
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:49 PM
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It means usual, that there left to much Energie at the System.
Maybe you connect beside a 220AC Motor into the System
Seriously, maybe set an other Resistor up at the Minus,
The Summs of an Circuit allways have to be Zero.

Last time i played with some Coils, where one had 16Ohms and the other 80ohms,
either the Powersupply goes hot at to less Resistance at the Pot,
or my Trigger Coil at to much resistance
Just looks like, you got not enough runoff for the Energie.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:56 PM
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Wow..
I played a bit around with the Setup,
Connected a 2200µF Cap before the Pot over a Diode,
connected these to + of Source, and - to Emitter.
So, when i connect the Source, let the motor speed up, disconnect it from Source
and turn the Pot lower when Rpm goes down, the Motor still speed up for a short Moment, when the Resistance at the Pot is lower...
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