The Great Global Warming Swindle

john_g · #**871** (**permalink**) 01-28-2011, 08:37 AM

Hi

Here's a link from he Daily Telegraph (UK) last year, about searching for other planets/stars that effect orbits:

Search on for Death Star that throws out deadly comets - Telegraph

Regards
John

byjoveoldchap · #**872** (**permalink**) 01-28-2011, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farmhand

G'day byjove,
As I recall the theory was that the passing object would interfere with the magnetic field of the Earth, possibly allowing a huge amount of unfiltered solar radiation through the magnetosphere shield. Kind of like if there were two electrode's far enough apart so as not to allow electrical breakdown but when you put something inbetween you can get breakdown and current flow.

Thanks

A great simplification Farmhand.

From what I have read recently, thankfully it would seem there will be nothing as devastating as some are claiming!

However, I think it makes sense to keep looking for the real causes of weather disturbances and volcanic activity.

If only we could all be informed and educated on what is really happening, then we might be better able to join together and help each other through these dramatic times?

Farmhand · #**873** (**permalink**) 01-28-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byjoveoldchap

A great simplification Farmhand.

From what I have read recently, thankfully it would seem there will be nothing as devastating as some are claiming!

However, I think it makes sense to keep looking for the real causes of weather disturbances and volcanic activity.

If only we could all be informed and educated on what is really happening, then we might be better able to join together and help each other through these dramatic times?

I got through that video and it is mind bending stuff, really interesting. Those tablets raise some questions. And a lot of that other anchient stuff.

Nibiru may just be on the way and like the guy said it doesn't always cause serious problems maybe. I do believe our weather is influenced chiefly by the sun itself, but it's obvious our weather/events are also influenced by other things/bodies near enough. eg Moon so If another very large object passed even close enough it would have to have some effects.

That video stopped working on me around the 54 min mark or so for some reason, i was interested to watch the rest so i'll try again later.

Also I must admit a lot of people do use N.A.S.A.'s data so they do do good work. Gotta give them credit for that at least.

Cheers

rickoff · #**874** (**permalink**) 01-28-2011, 04:03 PM

Farmhand · #**875** (**permalink**) 01-28-2011, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickoff

They would be good if they came with a potato already fitted too.

Or maybe the potato could just be an optional extra for the major party members.

ashtweth · #**876** (**permalink**) 01-28-2011, 04:51 PM

4 Aaron

NASA =Never a straight answer.

Ash

byjoveoldchap · #**877** (**permalink**) 01-30-2011, 10:34 PM

Lightning and fire

Japan on alert after volcano's biggest eruption in 50 years

By Daily Mail Reporter

A one-mile cordon has been established around a volcano on Mount Kirishima after it erupted scattering rocks and ash across southern Japan and sending smoke billowing 5,000ft into the air.

Note: ever seen lightning in reverse from a volcano?

link

byjoveoldchap · #**878** (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 01:10 PM

The Global Warming Scam is costing British taxpayers
£18,000,000.000 (18 Billion Pounds) PER YEAR.

Ask yourself, who benefits from this LIE?

Summary of winter forecast and explanation of weather events from Piers Corbyn here

Farmhand · #**879** (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 01:30 PM

WOW

That is really incredible. I had to sit back in my chair to take that in.
I guess a volcano is a good spot for an earth stake then.

It's beutifull. Enjoy the show. What else can we do ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by byjoveoldchap

Lightning and fire

Japan on alert after volcano's biggest eruption in 50 years

By Daily Mail Reporter

A one-mile cordon has been established around a volcano on Mount Kirishima after it erupted scattering rocks and ash across southern Japan and sending smoke billowing 5,000ft into the air.

Note: ever seen lightning in reverse from a volcano?

link

Cheers

Farmhand · #**880** (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 02:04 PM

Hi byjove, did you notice the tropical storm headed towards Queensland now.

Latest South-East Satellite Image

Looks like it could cover half the state. Was a small one last night, NQ.

The next one is much bigger. Interesting. Was there a solar flare or CME lately ? I wonder.

Question is what next. Hope fully sunshine and butterflies for the rest of the
year after this.

Jo_Knows · #**881** (**permalink**) 01-31-2011, 03:13 PM

There is another great documentary released in 2010, called "Cool It," which takes a pragmatic view of climate change, and helps calm the hysteria. I have yet to see it myself but the trailer looks great.

YouTube - Cool It Trailer (HD)

byjoveoldchap · #**882** (**permalink**) 02-01-2011, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farmhand

Hi byjove, did you notice the tropical storm headed towards Queensland now.

Latest South-East Satellite Image

Looks like it could cover half the state. Was a small one last night, NQ.

The next one is much bigger. Interesting. Was there a solar flare or CME lately ? I wonder.

Question is what next. Hope fully sunshine and butterflies for the rest of the
year after this.

Ohhhh shh.....t.

did you mean YASI ?

Giant TC Bianca formed (TS) 25 Jan West of Western Australia and powered up to TC 4 level 28th Jan

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/...2011/track.gif

Fantastic animation of Yasi - click here

byjoveoldchap · #**883** (**permalink**) 02-02-2011, 05:17 PM

‘Monster’ Tropical Cyclone Yasi bears down on Queensland.
Double ‘Bullseye’ for WeatherAction

"Bullseye, Piers, Congratulations!”.

e-mailed Viv Forbes, Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition The Carbon Sense Coalition based in Australia as Tropical Cyclone Yasi heads for Queensland 1st Feb

Piers Corbyn, astrophysicist of WeatherAction.com said this is a great double-hit forecast result. "We predicted three weeks ahead that probably TWO Tropical cyclones would form (&/or rapidly power-up) probably one in Indian Ocean and one NE of Queensland in the period 28-31 Jan and that is what has happened - Timing and region(s) (region certainly of the Queensland storm) CONFIRMED’.

"These are trial forecasts so we don’t yet expect to get formation positions in detail, but formation / rapid development time windows are normally reliable. Getting the right position of Yasi off Queensland is great news!

"All extreme weather, storm and flood events around Australia and across the world are solar-lunar triggered and driven and we intend to predict them all. These events are nothing whatsoever to do with Carbon Dioxide and those who say that are misleading the public for political ends and undermining the potential to scientifically predict these extreme events and save lives"

link

byjoveoldchap · #**884** (**permalink**) 02-02-2011, 05:52 PM

more crazy global warming weather effects?

~~~
'Snowpocalypse' pounds Midwest

Blizzards already raging in 8 states

1 Feb 11 - A massive winter storm some are dubbing "Snowpocalypse" is unleashing brutal weather — sleet, ice, wind and loads of snow — as it moves across the U.S. Midwest to the Northeast and on to Canada.

As of this morning, blizzards raged in eight states, with Texas, Missouri and Oklahoma the hardest hit, while 30 other states stood in line with warnings, watches and advisories.

The storm is expected to affect 100 million people in the U.S. from New Mexico to Maine.

"We've already seen 30 centimetres (about 12 inches) of snow in Oklahoma City, making it the snowiest February day on record there, and it's still falling." said CBC meteorologist Johanna Wagstaffe.

"Tomorrow the heavy snow will move to New York and the New England states," said Wagstaffe.

When the snow finally ends, bitter cold will set in with temperatures in parts of the Midwest dipping well below –17 C (about 1 degree F).

Thanks to Kevin Canning in Edmonton, Alberta for this link

Joit · #**885** (**permalink**) 02-05-2011, 08:50 PM

Another Story.

Author unknown.

The mid-80s, I was the CEO of a U.S. company operates, which dealt exclusively with climatic issues, including the issues of the use of solar energy. For solar panels and photovoltaic systems, there were grants from the state. to fight for it was one of my tasks. Since the neighbors were my job well, expanded, my duties and I was (to my annoyance) to the Commissioner for the "U.S. Energy Savings Programs" appointed. Sun it was inevitable that I was president of our company as a member of committees and delegations, at meetings and conferences on climate and insider privy to the decisions of the "big business and politics" was.
On the occasion of these meetings, set to which it was how can the word "climate catastrophe" commercialize, I learned include Nigel Calder, science writer and former editor of "New Scientist" to know. We talked briefly about the impact of these proposed decisions here. Nigel Calder has accompanied the emergence of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate from the start in journalism while I'm only as "assessor" was active. We both sensed that time do not lead would find the discussions and decisions for the planned IPCC.
Nigel's contribution was and still is, that he realized that the institution of IPCC, which is now blessed people on earth with a simulated air disaster, was not created to play in order to conduct scientific research but should serve solely political objectives.

The climate here and now delivered a surprise was possible and necessary by the following fact:

Global warming and a change in global climate may be a reality, however:

The supposedly "man-made global warming" is not a product of humanity, as claimed, but a kind of so-called scientists at the IPCC.
So that everyone understands what I mean: The "Anthropogenic greenhouse effect", so anyone who is for allegedly responsible for ensuring that the earth is warming up, was and is of the so-called scientists for many years, modulated in either direction or manipulated, which is required . Requires what? To fulfill the mission of the IPCC, to lead the people that he is guilty because of too much CO2 production from the warming of the earth.

Why is the disaster scenario of the IPCC is a construct of lies!
The previous text was shown the objectives of the IPCC (IPCC) monitors and what means he uses to support the claim that the earth belongs to a human-made climate disaster. Because surely can not be that which must not, the IPCC following, mostly non-anthropogenic facts, under the table:

1. It is claimed that the earth has warmed from 1860 to 2005 to 0.71 °. At that time there was no device that temperatures at one hundred of a degree could measure accurately. Thus, the underlying and thus the end result is wrong.
2. There were never any global CO2 content of the samples taken from the air, but a single value of Mouna Loa Observatory in Hawaii, as a basis.
3. Of the 6 trace gases in air water vapor was (about 2 / 3 share in the air) are excluded, thereby reducing the amount of CO2 increases automatically.
4. The influence of the sun on global warming was not as human causes, not included.
5. The critical temperature curve (hockey stick), which should provide evidence that the increase in global temperatures a consequence of the increase of CO2 in the air, was forged. Scientists McIntyre and McKitrick unmasked this forgery, whereupon the IPCC refused to long to carry out an adjustment.
6. For the existence of clouds, which let the sun heat the earth, there are no calculations. Clouds are thus eliminated in calculating the heating of the earth.
7. 72% of the earth's surface is covered by water. The oceans are by far the most CO2 of the earth. Cold water can absorb more CO2 than warm water. There is no scientifically robust studies of how the oceans release more CO2 when they warm up.

Because these sources of error but not into the concept of human-induced climate catastrophe fits, it was in 1998 in a report by the IPCC: "to attract attention, we need dramatic statements, and no doubt on what is said. Each of us researchers must decide how far he wants to be more honest and more effective. "

* Google Translated,. forgive me spelling errors )

rickoff · #**886** (**permalink**) 02-06-2011, 02:41 PM

Gotta love this bit of global warming humor

and this too...

ashtweth · #**887** (**permalink**) 02-12-2011, 10:31 AM

Wheeler’s Climate Cycles
Professor Raymond H. Wheeler (University of Kansas) compiled 20 centuries of historical records, and concluded from his studies that there exists a most important 100-year-cycle of climatic changes that influences human affairs in a profound manner.

The cycle occurs in four distinct phases, which are descriptive of worldwide conditions rather than specific areas. The four phases are disturbed by secondary leads and delays — as much as 10 years — in isolated and widely separated areas. Prof Wheeler stated:

“The climatic curve is intended to represent — as far as one curve can — the weather trend in the world as a whole at any one time. The curve has no absolute significance. The meaning of the curve at any one time is relative to the pattern of the 100-year old cycle as a whole.”
Jennifer Marohasy » Wheeler’s Climate Cycles

ashtweth · #**888** (**permalink**) 02-14-2011, 01:03 AM

Guys, does any one else think its obvious that by not including the CO2 removing aspects of HEMP (industrial) plus the closed carbon cycle its has as solutions - That these guys dont even know what they are doing even if their "bogus" climate science model was real?. Ever researched hemp solutions for what they are saying?

Why hasn't a subsidy plan been done to encourage farmers AGAIN to grow hemp to take out CO2 out of the air. It's amazing how much they have left out in their solutions, of-cause we all know its about a tax and control. Imagine a HEMP Gasification plant.

Ash

ashtweth · #**889** (**permalink**) 02-14-2011, 04:39 AM

Piers Corbyn's , WeatherAction, website.

The meeting - “The necessity for Evidence-based Science & policy – Not the Carbon Con!” was supported by a simultaneous event in King George Square, Brisbane, Queensland and covered three times during the Day by Russia TV and an extensive array of websites around the world.

WeatherAction (Piers Corbyn) - Welcome

byjoveoldchap · #**890** (**permalink**) 02-17-2011, 04:29 PM

New big solar storms powering WeatherAction long range TOP RED weather warnings 18/19 Feb.

"Let battle commence across the world".

And it's nothing to do with CO2!

The biggest solar flare for 4 years was reported early on 15 Feb BBC News - Sun unleashes huge solar flare towards Earth and the ejected particles from it which hit Earth are a key part of the drivers of WeatherAction's long range forecasted world-wide TOP RED WARNING period 18/19 Feb.

The big solar plasma hit due on 17th or so will cause the Earth weather events to be substantially more intense on 18th/19th than standard Met expects.

{Forecast Feb 8-28, USA Extreme Weather Events &scenarios} TOP RED WARNING 18-19 FEB. Active Low(s) prob Mid-West Most active around 18/19 tracking E / N & quieter later. Stationary fronts South-central parts – thunder floods & tornadoes. The full forecast carries a USA map

{Forecast Ext Events 10-28 Feb 2011 Tropical Cyclones Australia & South Indian Ocean} 18/19 Feb …. Significant Thunderstorms likely and TD / TC Formations possible - probability 60% - in South Indian Ocean &/or Seas East of Queensland but less active than …. Landfalls in East Australia spec Queensland possible but next period more likely.

For Britain + Ireland & Europe[/B] The mild attack from the West will intensify but so will the cold blast from the East so "Let battle commence". The conflict will make the snow expected more extensive and heavier than standard meteorology models are saying both in Britain & in parts of Europe. The enhanced collision of air masses also predicts (extra) gales.

link to source here

byjoveoldchap · #**891** (**permalink**) 02-22-2011, 01:38 PM

21-2-11

As New Zealand is struck by Earthquake Piers says:-

Expect more earthquakes world-wide for next two years

• More Earthquakes near solar activity minima

• Odd-Even cycle minima (like THIS one) probably worse

• More Earthquakes associated with Solar proton events

Christchurch, South Island New Zealand was struck by a damaging shallow level Earthquake on 21 Feb and is suffering severe aftershocks. See video & news - Live updates: 6.3 earthquake rocks Christchurch, New Zealand | News.com.au

This event follows the world wide increase in volcanism and earthquakes in the last year or two and confirms the general statistical fact that more - and more serious - earthquakes, and volcanic activity, tend to occur around solar cycle minima - see, eg, article by Gui Qing ZHANG

http://www.springerlink.com/content/...ext.pdf?page=1

The article by Zhang also associates increased Earthquakes with general increases in solar proton events. Piers Corbyn, astrophysicist of WeatherAction.com comments:

"Major storms are also associated with solar proton events and significantly we had important solar proton events on 28 Jan just before our predicted world double whammy of the simultaneous mega blizzard USA and mega Tropical Cyclone Yasi hitting Queensland - http://bit.ly/gvbPi5

"There was also a surge of solar protons associated with the major X2 flare of 15 Feb which preceded another pair of simultaneous USA blizzards and East of Queensland Tropical Cyclone formation (TC Atu) 18/19 Feb both of which we predicted weeks ahead - News from WeatherAction

"We now think that it is not just general solar proton event levels which point towards more earthquakes but that individual solar proton events exacerbate immediate earthquake (and associated volcanism) risk either directly or due to consequent storm activity and related surface pressure changes such as caused by our solar triggered and predicted Tropical Cyclone Atu which is currently centred North of New Zealand and heading closer. See:-

Tropical Storm: 5 Day Forecast Map : Weather Underground
Comments from Piers

byjoveoldchap · #**892** (**permalink**) 02-22-2011, 01:42 PM

21-2-11

As New Zealand is struck by Earthquake Piers says:-

Expect more earthquakes world-wide for next two years

• More Earthquakes near solar activity minima

• Odd-Even cycle minima (like THIS one) probably worse

• More Earthquakes associated with Solar proton events

Christchurch, South Island New Zealand was struck by a damaging shallow level Earthquake on 21 Feb and is suffering severe aftershocks. See video & news - Live updates: 6.3 earthquake rocks Christchurch, New Zealand | News.com.au

This event follows the world wide increase in volcanism and earthquakes in the last year or two and confirms the general statistical fact that more - and more serious - earthquakes, and volcanic activity, tend to occur around solar cycle minima - see, eg, article by Gui Qing ZHANG

http://www.springerlink.com/content/...ext.pdf?page=1

The article by Zhang also associates increased Earthquakes with general increases in solar proton events. Piers Corbyn, astrophysicist of WeatherAction.com comments:

"Major storms are also associated with solar proton events and significantly we had important solar proton events on 28 Jan just before our predicted world double whammy of the simultaneous mega blizzard USA and mega Tropical Cyclone Yasi hitting Queensland - http://bit.ly/gvbPi5

"There was also a surge of solar protons associated with the major X2 flare of 15 Feb which preceded another pair of simultaneous USA blizzards and East of Queensland Tropical Cyclone formation (TC Atu) 18/19 Feb both of which we predicted weeks ahead - News from WeatherAction

"We now think that it is not just general solar proton event levels which point towards more earthquakes but that individual solar proton events exacerbate immediate earthquake (and associated volcanism) risk either directly or due to consequent storm activity and related surface pressure changes such as caused by our solar triggered and predicted Tropical Cyclone Atu which is currently centred North of New Zealand and heading closer. See:-

Tropical Storm: 5 Day Forecast Map : Weather Underground

Comments from Piers

rickoff · #**893** (**permalink**) 02-28-2011, 12:15 AM

What if you could gather large amounts of CO2 at their point source, and turn it into something else that would also have a tremendous positive impact upon energy costs? One Massachusetts biotech company, Joule Unlimited, is claiming that they have bioengineered an organism that takes in sunlight and CO2, and directly converts it to diesel fuel, and estimates they can do this at a cost of about $30 a barrel. Of course the CO2 alarmists are much more interested in making money from taxing CO2 than in saving consumer dollars and reducing dependence on foreign oil, so widespread utilization of this technology seems unlikely. But think about it - what a great idea!

Read more about this technology here.

ashtweth · #**894** (**permalink**) 03-01-2011, 12:47 AM

Push comes to shove now for us.

Julia Gillards (Aust PM) promise of a carbon dioxide tax starting next year has people everywhere wanting to protest If you can link into facebook onto "stop gillards carbon tax" page or "Qld PCS" and look at the wall links and a petition link on the top left please do so.

stop Gillards carbon tax page Stop Gillard's Carbon Tax | Facebook

Revolt against the carbon tax page Login | Facebook

petition against the carbon tax page Login | Facebook

The dates and times are being planned now but WED March 23rd is looking the likely date in every city Federal parliament is sitting and the NSW election is a few days later.

Ian Moses ianmoses@live.com.au in Qld is organising a few things
Emmanuel Jack allsetbuildserv@gmail.com is in Sydney as well

Others may come into the team as it goes along Email these guys if you can assist with notifying others, bringing a PA system, starting a facebook site for another city (Adelaide, Melbourne?) organising a bunch of people to attend, or doing a stunt on the day

The idea is united political / community interest groups march where everyone joins in with their banners and shirts. This is not a protest run by any individual group or political party. Join in to help this be a true people power protest.

Ill be there Filming guys.

Ash

byjoveoldchap · #**895** (**permalink**) 03-06-2011, 11:54 PM

Piers Corbyn now forecasting

extreme weather events in 4 continents

· USA forecast add-in spells out 12 tornado / flood / biting cold events through March.

· NEW World (exc USA & Europe) events forecast covers 8 events –

Tropical Cyclone formation off Australia, dust storms in North Africa and China, and tornado warnings for Bangla Desh and New Zealand.

· Major deluges floods & tornadoes to hit USA 23/24 March

· Early North Pacific Tropical Cyclone likely to form around 30/31 March and head for Philippines & South China Sea.

link here

bugler · #**896** (**permalink**) 03-29-2011, 10:58 AM

You might find interesting this video:

YouTube - Climategate is Still the Issue

rickoff · #**897** (**permalink**) 04-02-2011, 05:42 PM

Although the media has done a great job of covering this up, the inconvenient fact is that all seven glaciers on California’s Mount Shasta are growing. This includes Whitney Glacier, the state’s largest. Yes, growing. Not melting. Not only are Mt. Shasta’s glaciers growing, two have nearly doubled in size. Both the Hotlum and Wintun Glaciers have nearly doubled in size since 1950. The Bolam Glacier has increased by half, while the Whitney and Konwakiton Glaciers have grown by a third. Scientists first became aware of these growing California glaciers in 2002, but nearly a decade later now, most media outlets still refuse to acknowledge that these glaciers are growing.

note: The above information was gleaned from a Canadian Free Press article written by Robert Felix. To read the full article, go here.

Peter Lindemann · #**898** (**permalink**) 04-05-2011, 03:20 PM

Hi Folks,

Here is a great article from the BBC talking about "ozone loss" in the stratosphere above the Arctic Circle this winter. Here are a few quotes:

"In the meantime, we have some winters that get much colder than before and also the cold periods last longer, into the spring," he told BBC News. So it's really a combination of the gases still there and low temperatures and then sunshine, and then you get ozone loss."

"The destructive reactions are promoted by cold conditions (below -78C) in the stratosphere."

In addition, research by Markus Rex from the Alfred Wegener Institute in Germany suggests that winters that stand out as being cold in the Arctic stratosphere are getting colder. "For the next few decades, the [Arctic ozone] story is driven by temperatures, and we don't understand what's driving this [downward] trend," he said. "It's a big challenge to understand it and how it will drive ozone loss over coming decades."

BBC News - Arctic ozone levels in never-before-seen plunge

So, let's see.... it's getting colder in the upper atmosphere, and ozone is naturally destroyed by lower temperatures, but they can't figure it out.

Enjoy,

Peter

pengrove · #**899** (**permalink**) 04-10-2011, 03:16 PM

People that think that global warming is BS seem to be lost in space.

This is what we need! :

Device for improving combustion and eliminating pollutants from internal combustion engines

If you want to save us make this mandatory on all vehicles. Its only a temporary solution but it could save us if its not too late already.

diegoviz · #**900** (**permalink**) 04-13-2011, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinzerBob

I have sent the link around to my group of family and friends.

I have always had my doubts about CO2 global warming, however, at the same time I still support conservation and reduction strategies.

It would be nice to see that we can improve efficiencies and reduce emissions and at the same time in the next 20 years observe that CO2 emissions are not the problem.

Best regards.

Sorry, It, WOULD'NT BE NICE TO SEE, It would be (it is actually) horrible to see after so much money is being thrown through the sump. The vast amount of money wasted by ignorant or perverse public "spenders" to "reduce emisisions" of a gas like CO2 that is essential for life, is one of the most criminal conspirations ever seen. What It would be nice to see is who is behind this world scale hoax and what is the end motivation of the scammers. The most amazing thing is how it is possible that such a ridiculous, unsustainable "theory" as "greenhouse effect caused by CO2" is accepted by the science community without laughing.