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Old 09-05-2008, 09:20 PM
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The nature of energy

I believe that most who participate in this forum will agree that the physics which is taught and generally accepted today has serious flaws and does not take into account the phenomena we come on here to discuss and refine.

With this thought in mind, I submit to you some of my thoughts on energy for you to tear apart, add to, subtract from, etc.. It is not my goal to come up with a unified field theory, but I would like to understand this universe we call home as much as possible. My goal here is as much anyones goal- to experiment, discover, and harness these phenomena, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before... er, I mean scratch that part about new life and civilizations


As well, please forgive the nonconscise nature of these ramblings, I hope everything will turn out clear in the end..


Energy... is stated in many physics texts as "the ability to do work"

I defined it as a much younger researcher of all things quantum mechanical (albeit incorrectly) as bosons... these are force carriers, such as photons, but "force carriers" and the "force" they "carry" are two separate things.

But going back to what I wanted to talk about today- the root of things

Why is a magnetic field (or why isn't it) energy?

Well obviously it has the ability to do work, but I'm beginning to think you can't really call static fields (or "potential energy") energy

Dividing it down, we can model the magnetic field of a magnet with a coil of wire and electricity of a certain voltage and current. But we've just taken one value: magnet A has field geometry of X, Y, Z; and we've reproduced it with several different variables: coil of certain number of turns, potential difference between ends of the coil, current through the coil yeilds magnetic field of geometry/strength of X, Y, Z.

We used a dynamic system to reproduce something which was happening in a static system.

Sitting in a motionless universe, who would know or care whether or not a magnet had a magnetic field. Better pictured this way- if time stopped, how would you measure the field strength of the magnet.

Energy is change. Energy requires a differential, a movement, a change of some sort. The two scenarios- of time being stopped and motion being stopped yeild the same exact results to any experiment done in one's head. Time is an illusion created by motion, yet, movement is an illusion created by time.

Time has always been the important part of any equation of energy. Force over time equals energy... force over distance equals, guess what, work (AKA energy)

the equations are the same

Shifting gears away from my past arguments to something more recent and more akin to peter lindemanns neck of the woods,

a magnetic field IS energy, I have determined. A partice will curve in a magnetic field- a change in direction is defined as acelleration- so there is as much energy transfer, but not in a way we can directly plug into- but thankfully, because since it transfers energy in this way it doesn't destroy its ability to do so, like an electric field.

Here are the rules:

The electric field is a longitudinal field, it propogates in its direction of motion, therfore it transfers energy directly from point A to point B. A spark jumps from a negatively charged electrode to a positively charged one.

But the magnetic field is transverse, it propogates perpendicular to its direction of travel, thus it transfers energy by curving ones path.

And these forrces wrap themselves together in an electron.

Going deeper, and this is my point, I believe in what one might call a theory that says there is a medium filling space by which forces act. An ether or aether or subspace or whatever you want to call it. Early radio books speak of 'waves in the ether' it, but with einsteins relativity and quantum mechanics they say there are only particles and waves and a strange duality, but they've found a way to work the universe without an aether, which I believe is incorrect.


My only real point to all this, besides asking what theories you all ascribe to-

Wouldn't it work better if we thought of an electron not as a particle sometimes and a wave other times, but as two fields

something like this:

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Do you have some designs we could try to replicate ?

It would be interesting to see some of this in real life so to speak.
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A quote from Wilhelm Reich

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The real fact that humans refuse somehow to speak it out loud and openly is the fact that the real nature of energy is what we call love = existence.
Love is the creating force in the universe and it is at our fingertips, but we find it difficult to use, because of something we call the ego, which is the barrier for expressing love. We can't know the Nature of LOVE because it seems to be the fabric of existence and it leads to nothingness.

Wilhelm Reich knew this and has mentioned this fact implicitly in one of his notes:
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The orgone will enable us to visit distant stars and to contact other
beings. It will transform men of German, English, or Chinese "nationality"
in such a way that questions of passport or race will no
longer arise. Love will be the driving force of this genuine cosmopolitanism!
Love will be the only religion! It will encompass all that
the sons of the human animal have smashed, wreaked death and
destruction upon, over the past thousands of years.
Human sexuality and love seem to be intertwined and here is another quote from him which I believe it is true. Unsatisfied relationship of man and woman is resulted in the chaos we see in the world:
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One thing is certain: There will be no peace as long as man is
running around sexually unsatisfied with a ramrod down his back.
I suppose that the freest energy is love and it has many many many expressions to it. In hope that we could drop the ego barrier and start using this power for the good of the world.

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Love is the answer...

Yes its true. Love is always the solution

The world is the problem

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I think you might find something along these lines in a book called Unity over at Unity Book - sample chapter downloads
This is available as a free down load from the gravity control site or you can simply read it on the same site.

The main theme is an underlying force of energy affecting all the various forms and functions of physical structure.

In this respect both gravity and electromagnetism are considered to be dynamic responses rather than forces or sources of energy.

And of course love is the answer, it really is.
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I look at the aether as a type of pressure regulator. I think all forms of energy result from differentials in this pressurized medium. Weather it be physical, electrical or magnetic, it's all about the pressure differentials.
Nature always works to equalize any difference in this pressure. The trick is to cause a large imbalance with less work than it takes Nature to fix it.

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Good Point Ted
I look at the same Direction, now, just need to find out the different Ways, how to equalize Stuff or get a xtra Bumb like a Spike, to work with it.

But i seperate an other Way, where you can 'convert' Energie, what is flowing around.
I could figure, that there is same Way as Water go another Circle, where Energy is circulating.
Regarding W. Reich and the Orgonenergy, what fills up the Space, the Amount of it must be HUGE.
Just seems, noone knows how to catch it, guess, i need a nice 'Watermill'
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Post Ignorance isn't bliss

If THE concept of what is an element on the periodic table:
like gold, oxygen, etc is FAULTY and is just flat wrong ...

Then how can you begin to know what something like energy is
when you do not know what an element is. ..
What am I talking about you ask?

Learn more about new scientific facts, watch
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If THE concept of what is an element on the periodic table:
like gold, oxygen, etc is FAULTY and is just flat wrong ...

Then how can you begin to know what something like energy is
when you do not know what an element is. ..
What am I talking about you ask?

Learn more about new scientific facts, watch
Monatomic Elements And Secrets Of The Ark Of Covenant

Climbing out of the rut of ignorance I was pushed into
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I really do think you folks would get something out of what we are doing over at Gravity Control - antigravity research & technology

The whole idea behind Project Unity is a magnetic frame by which to focus the underlying energy of universe and we have some new drawings of the layout.

The main problem with new energy projects is that most people think energy radiates when it is focused inward.

It's like the idea of energy being equivalent to mass, but this can only be taken as a very general statement, as the ratio of energy per unit of mass is different for every different material.

And when you are talking about aether energy the smaller mass of a similar material always has the higher ratio of energy per unit of mass and the larger mass of the same material has the lower ratio of energy per unit of mass.

An amazing world we live in.
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I believe that most who participate in this forum will agree that the physics which is taught and generally accepted today has serious flaws and does not take into account the phenomena we come on here to discuss and refine.

With this thought in mind, I submit to you some of my thoughts on energy for you to tear apart, add to, subtract from, etc.. It is not my goal to come up with a unified field theory, but I would like to understand this universe we call home as much as possible. My goal here is as much anyones goal- to experiment, discover, and harness these phenomena, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before... er, I mean scratch that part about new life and civilizations


As well, please forgive the nonconscise nature of these ramblings, I hope everything will turn out clear in the end..


Energy... is stated in many physics texts as "the ability to do work"

I defined it as a much younger researcher of all things quantum mechanical (albeit incorrectly) as bosons... these are force carriers, such as photons, but "force carriers" and the "force" they "carry" are two separate things.

But going back to what I wanted to talk about today- the root of things

Why is a magnetic field (or why isn't it) energy?

Well obviously it has the ability to do work, but I'm beginning to think you can't really call static fields (or "potential energy") energy

Dividing it down, we can model the magnetic field of a magnet with a coil of wire and electricity of a certain voltage and current. But we've just taken one value: magnet A has field geometry of X, Y, Z; and we've reproduced it with several different variables: coil of certain number of turns, potential difference between ends of the coil, current through the coil yeilds magnetic field of geometry/strength of X, Y, Z.

We used a dynamic system to reproduce something which was happening in a static system.

Sitting in a motionless universe, who would know or care whether or not a magnet had a magnetic field. Better pictured this way- if time stopped, how would you measure the field strength of the magnet.

Energy is change. Energy requires a differential, a movement, a change of some sort. The two scenarios- of time being stopped and motion being stopped yeild the same exact results to any experiment done in one's head. Time is an illusion created by motion, yet, movement is an illusion created by time.

Time has always been the important part of any equation of energy. Force over time equals energy... force over distance equals, guess what, work (AKA energy)

the equations are the same

Shifting gears away from my past arguments to something more recent and more akin to peter lindemanns neck of the woods,

a magnetic field IS energy, I have determined. A partice will curve in a magnetic field- a change in direction is defined as acelleration- so there is as much energy transfer, but not in a way we can directly plug into- but thankfully, because since it transfers energy in this way it doesn't destroy its ability to do so, like an electric field.

Here are the rules:

The electric field is a longitudinal field, it propogates in its direction of motion, therfore it transfers energy directly from point A to point B. A spark jumps from a negatively charged electrode to a positively charged one.

But the magnetic field is transverse, it propogates perpendicular to its direction of travel, thus it transfers energy by curving ones path.

And these forrces wrap themselves together in an electron.

Going deeper, and this is my point, I believe in what one might call a theory that says there is a medium filling space by which forces act. An ether or aether or subspace or whatever you want to call it. Early radio books speak of 'waves in the ether' it, but with einsteins relativity and quantum mechanics they say there are only particles and waves and a strange duality, but they've found a way to work the universe without an aether, which I believe is incorrect.


My only real point to all this, besides asking what theories you all ascribe to-

Wouldn't it work better if we thought of an electron not as a particle sometimes and a wave other times, but as two fields

something like this:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...m4ce/cpmas.jpg
You are really close to hitting the dinger at the top of the pole.

A magnet is not itself energy, but I get your point, as it focuses energy inward in a curve.

Even a single electron is a unified field system unto itself. There is a duality to a unified field system as the energy focused to the core is accelerating inward while at the same time decelerating isometrically into space.

This gives you an energy differential corresponding to an electron, an atom, a molecule, a planet, a star or a solar system etc. etc.
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Energy Relations in Chemistry: Thermochemistry

The Nature of Energy

Sugar you eat is "combusted" by your body to produce CO2 and H2O. During this process energy is also released.

This energy is used (among other things) to:

* Operate your muscles
* Maintain your body temperature

Chemical reactions involve changes in energy:

* Some reactions produce energy
* Some reactions require energy

Our society as an "organism" requires energy: 90% of our energy comes from chemical reactions involving the combustion of petroleum products.

The study of energy and its transformations is known as thermodynamics

This area of study began when steam engines were developed during the industrial revolution and the relationships between heat, work and energy for different fuels was being studied.

The relationship between chemical reactions and energy changes is known as thermochemistry

The Nature of Energy

A Force is any kind of push or pull exerted on an object.

* Gravity is a force which keeps us stuck to the earth.
* The Electrostatic force attracts electrons to protons in an atom.

If you move an object against some force, work is being done.

The amount of work (w) being done is relative to the distance (d) the object is moved and the strength of the force (F) against the object:

w = F * d

Energy, in the form of work, must be used to move an object against a force.

When we do work, our body temperature increases (and we sweat to cool us down). Our bodies are generating Heat energy.

Heat is an energy which is transferred from one object to another depending on the relative temperature:

* Heat energy flows from an object towards other objects of lower temperature

Energy is the capacity to do work or to transfer heat

Objects can possess energy due to their motions and positions, as kinetic energy and potential energy.

Kinetic and Potential Energy

Kinetic energy is the energy of motion. The magnitude of the kinetic energy (Ek) of an object depends upon its mass (m) and velocity (v):

In other words, both the mass and the speed of an object determines how much energy it has, and thus, how much work it can accomplish.

An object can also possess energy based upon its position relative to other objects - a type of stored up energy, or "potential energy"

Potential energy is the result of the attractions and repulsion between objects. An electron has potential energy when located near a proton due to the attractive electrostatic force between them.

Chemical and thermal energy are terms which relate to potential and kinetic energy at the atomic level

* Chemical energy is the potential energy stored in the arrangement of electrons and protons
* Thermal energy reflects the kinetic energy of the molecules of a substance.

Energy Units

The SI unit for energy is the joule ("J"). In honor of James Prescot Joule (1818-1889) a British Scientist who investigated work and heat. (Note: SI is short for the French term Systeme International d'Unites. Which defines metric standards).

Kinetic energy for example is defined as:

Thus, the joule must have units of:

kg*(meters/second)2

and, in fact, 1 joule is defined as:

Traditionally, energy changes accompanying chemical reactions have been expressed in calories, which is a non-SI unit (though still widely used).

1 calorie = 4.184 J

Systems and surrounding

When we focus on a study of energy changes we look at a small, well defined and isolated part of the universe - the flask or container the reactants are in. This is called the system.

Everything else is called the surroundings.

Usually the system is isolated from its surroundings such that there will be an exchange of energy between system and surroundings, but not matter.

Thus, the system will contain the same mass after an experiment, but the system can lose or gain energy (in the form of heat, work, or both).

Lowering the energy of the system

Systems tend to attain as low an energy as possible

Systems with a high potential energy are less stable and more likely to undergo change than systems with a low potential energy.

Like a shopping cart at the top of a hill, chemical reactants move spontaneously toward a lower potential energy when possible.

1996 Michael Blaber
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See the video (and comments) Dr. Quantum - Double Slit Experiment & Entanglement - Video very elucidative
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See the video (and comments) Dr. Quantum - Double Slit Experiment & Entanglement - Video very elucidative
"What the Bleep!? - Down the Rabbit Hole" segment shows purposely-unexplainable phenomena, which sooner or later will be solved, or when eather is taken into consideration.

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Energy = Inverse of Time
Wavelength = Inverse of Frequency

Did I say the same thing twice, but only backwards? I think so.

If you know the value of one, then you will know the value of the other.

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I just remember of Is a cosmic chameleon driving galaxies apart? - space - 02 August 2010 - New Scientist when I read your comment (note the pressure term occurrence). You have a very acuminous vision. Thank you!

P.S.: I thought you would like this forum (if you aren't already aware of it) Free Energy - Index
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Interesting topic theme.

Regarding the ether concept and contemporary Eistain theories, i personally find much more practical and understandable the ether concept that fills the void and helps at propagating the EM radiation.

Actually initially the propagation of EM in space was perceived as a displacement current (similar inside capacitors) that is creating the respective electric and magnetic fields and propagates in an ether medium.

I personally try to be moderate on theories as Einstain or Ether's since theories are just.. theories. Yes, of course they try to aswer observations but they are far from being axioms.
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I can add that voltage is rate of change in time of magnetic flux. That info is HIDDEN behind maxwell equations - in other words is is eliminated by some kind of gauging and thus very hard to find its . I don't know exact equation but a rouge simple but tricky assumptions point me to that direction

If magnetic flux is directly related to energy then voltage would be a difference or lag between magnetic flux change (the inverse of time flow) and time flow.

We can extract magnetic flux manipulating time domain.
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lag of resultant flux in an induction motor, the retardation of the induced magnetic flux behind the impressed magnetic flux. lag of magnetization a retardation of magnetic effects behind there cause, due to hysteresis in the magnetized substance. The lag of electromotive force the retardation of electromotive force behind the current.

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Some of you might be surprised to know that modern science does not know exactly what energy is despite all the contentions suggesting otherwise.

Time determines a rate of frequency and as the rate of frequency is a purely dynamic state it is either accelerating or decelerating relative to the system of reference.

As the energy state of the earth is accelerating we have an expanding universe, an inverse reflection of the state within which is focused to the core.

In this respect electromagnetism is a response to the condition of field as determined by the rate of acceleration, whereby an electrical charge is the product of a differential in dynamic potential, nothing more and nothing less.

To apply this to our human industry would free us of our dependence on fuel based systems as no fuel is required. Yet we cling to these fuel based systems as if our very lives depended upon them, which is not the case at all.
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"Quantum mechanics has proven dazzlingly successful in predicting reality. Yet it has no foundation in reality" Is quantum theory weird enough for the real world? - physics-math - 23 August 2010 - New Scientist
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"Quantum mechanics has proven dazzlingly successful in predicting reality. Yet it has no foundation in reality" Is quantum theory weird enough for the real world? - physics-math - 23 August 2010 - New Scientist
Interesting. I dont know what that writer reality is. The result of an experiment is the reality for me. If a theory can not explain what I see then I throw that theory away.
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They say the simplest explanation probably is the right answer; even then they don't give up. An old idea is a good idea, perhaps?

To infinity and beyond: The struggle to save arithmetic - physics-math - 16 August 2010 - New Scientist "Can we dismiss infinity that easily?" We float in an ocean of energy?
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Close but not close enough, you have to get down to the basic basics of physical structure, as there has to be an underlying flow of energy just to sustain and perpetuate physical structure and the interactions occurring between all physical structure can be explained in terms of energy differentials.

There is a free download of a book called Unity at Gravity Control - Free Energy and Antigravity Technology for anyone interested in reading more.
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So the real question is what is a magnetic field
My personal theory
subelectron particles flow through the magnetic in opposite directions from north to south and from south to north, when the field is turned off or pulsed these subelectron particles combine to form the electron or what we call electricity. Kiss
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According to my knowledge, the law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed it can be changed from one form to another form.
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In addition to conservation of energy, there is conservation of momentum.

I've seen a process follow conservation of energy in action which I can gain more charges from initial charge within a capacitor. Now all we need is to find a process where conservation of charge rule over conservation of energy and we're home.
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Hi Dave
for the rest of the people here i think dave already figured out correctly that the end of the line is voltage so how does one get back to other forms from there is an excellent question.
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energy fields within reality fields

Everything that IS is an energetic manifestation of the fabric ( or engine ) of reality in wich it is manifest.

Thought
Electricity
Magnetism
Gravity ( compressed magnetism )
Matter
Plasma
Light
so on, are expressions of our reality field: third density.

Third density field can manifest in an infinity variety of ways, according to a fixed set of laws. These laws differ from one dimention to the other.
For example in fourth density, time is no longer linear or sequential. It is a transition reality field, not meant to dwell on forever. Consciouness that lives there are encouraged to move on to the next level, wich is fifth density, where all expressions of one's consciouness stream are know and experienced simultaneously. We call that eternal time, or spherical time.

Our consciouness streams from higher dimentional planes to our reality, our mind. The same goes on for the light of the sun, wich is a living light.

When we want to deeply understand gravity and magnetism,
when we want to know the difference between the light comming from the sun and the light comming from a lightbulb
we have to look at trans-dimentional energy phenomena.


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Old 06-28-2012, 11:46 PM
Sunsaver Sunsaver is offline
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That's very interesting, Alex. Can you tell us more about pair production? My physics is a little rusty.
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