I was watching this Stan Deyo video:
Stan Deyo - Anti-Gravity, Free Energy and the Technology of the New World Order

at: 41:15 and at: 100:29 He shows this device. I thought it would be fun to build. here is a pic

i c from what you build....it doesnt work


Hinja

@rick123;

The concept is good, the secret lies in the material to use both core and windings.
On the core I can not help you, but the windings are not copper, it is iron (Fe-56)
and some 6 thin wires twisted together, single layer on coil.

What you did looks like mini Tesla's. Remember the energy flow in
Tesla coils is from bottom to top, you want the reversed effect - top to bottom.

Replace the bottom 'primary' with small metal caps (like a bit concave washers);
to get ions flowing.

No need to do all bobins, just make a single one; place it on a sensitive scale
(not elecronic) and charge up with adjustments. You will not reach "anti-gravity'
but if all is OK, you will see reduction in weight.
From there on, you can go the 3-point way and reduce weight, increase energy flow.

Good luck, and I will have to stay away from here. TOO tempting to tell too much
on this stage; enought o say that Stan Deyo has given me plenty of very valid and
interesting guidelines.

Aromaz

as u can see on these picutres, i made the smaller model too.
it is made of:
core is a iron 5.6 washer with a peace missing
rod is also made of 5.6 iron

core has 63 windings in both directions sum = 126
rod is also 63 windings in one direction ... sum = 126 windings per rod
i used copper 0.8mm wire for both core and rod.
I use pulsed DC from 1Hz to 1MHz .... current from 1A to 7A ... and voltage from 2V to 20V
i have finished the construction a few days ago .... but i can't get it to lift off or to reduce weight.
where is the catch ??? please help


Regards,
Pedja a.k.a Hinja

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Nope, you will not get 'lift-off' there is much more into reaching that - I did not get it either.

I would suggest you build a 'Lifter' first and study the ion phenomenon there. increase space, play with the wires and foil, play with resonance, power supply , etc. increase the distance between the three poles, That is the most easy and you can learn very much from that. Then come back to try this device.

Weight is very critical.

Coper windings are not ideal.

No core.

Good luck

@Aromaz

Stan said that you need to have a toriodal soft metal core.Only thing that i can see now is that i was wrong for not separating pulses by phaze ... will do that



Hinja

Hi guys,

New here. Rather than rehash things, I'll just introduce myself a bit with some snippets from a PM to a new pal here.

Looking to pass some anti-gravity thoughts to an experimenter and others serious on playing with them. Tell me about your shop tooling available, past experiments, etc. Details would be pre-patent confidential and given under Non-Disclosure Agreement. Some things and lesser items can be talked about freely on the forums. Bottom line: Let's make stuff float!


(Sorry to hog the thread. I'm a little long-winded!)

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Actually, I'm way out here in California -- home of the fruits and nuts! Cleared out of the SF Bay Area and moved to farm country after twit doctors tried to poison and kill me. Wound my way to Alternative Medicine hippies who gave me my life back. Built a little farm in 2004. Studied and experimented a lot in these crazy medical areas. Done some good there. Been actually fixing people and animals with cancer. Would like to keep it up in medical charity (Mother Teresa kinda stuff), but there's no money in it, frankly. All hatred of you when you step on the M.D. toes. Need to pawn off some engineering items in order to fund my interests in medical missions. Have lots of friends who tend to sick orphans in the third world and all that.

Got sick of paying $400/mos for propane here in the winter, so designed the first X-GEN unit. X-GEN was an electrical generator capable of running your house (and EV cars or aircraft) at about 12 times less fuel consumption than these conventional generators you see on the market (Honda, Onan, etc.). Swapped over later to initial designs for zero fuel burn under RF excitation of salt water as John Kanzius discovered. But, all in all, though very efficient, it was all complicated hokus pokus and lots of mechanical engineering feat. Scrapped it. Wasn't over-unity.

My alternative medicine pals introduced me to concepts in scalar energy and guided me toward taking a second look at Nikola Tesla. Many others. The more I studied, the more my eyes opened. The more it all makes sense and has amplified my nerd magic wand thousands fold. Tesla, T.T. Brown, Hutchison, Bedini, Kanzius, Bearden, DePalma, Leedskalnin, Keely..many others...they've sort of become my tutors. Steep learning curve. Still learning. I'm already at three thick white binders -- about 2 feet tall -- just absorbing this stuff.

Electrical I'm fairly good at. Electronics a bit. Math and Physics pretty strong. Never been a conehead, though. Aerospace & mechanical engineering is my gig. Aviation was my first gig as a mechanic. Some spooky things are my background but this stuff has been much the eye opener. All stuff I never learned in school.

Actually, the bulk of what I learned in engineering and physics is all crap compared to this stuff. Daily, I laugh and remain in awe at how much the world has evolved while really only knowing a fraction of real science. Our whole world is built on technical junk, and yet these "scientists" claim that "perpetual motion" does not exist; That they'll have to re-write the laws of science if so. Yup. Gotta re-write the laws cuz they're junk! As for perpetual motion, all you need do is look at the atoms. When ever do they and the electron stop?!

You know, there's some pretty interesting free energy work in the USPTO database done by a Silicon Valley company...I'd have to dig it up in my notes. They're drawing energy from the vacuum by passing atoms through a nano mesh. Electrons jump to higher orbit while tapping the vacuum. As they drop, the quanta is emitted. All you really need do there is tap that photon output to electricity to further pump the fluid through the mesh, and you have over-unity again!

It's the same ol' Tesla concept of perpetually replenishing the well. If you imagine the world all around us like an ocean with water pressure upon us. And you're holding this soda can of low pressure interior (like a submarine at depth -- inside air; outside high pressure water). Tesla's idea is that, when you poke a hole in that submarine, water leaks in. And it will always leak in until the u-boat is filled. So, all you need do is keep bailing out or using the water. If you could convert that incoming sea water leak to a gas and bubble it back out -- say through electrolysis and split of the Hydrogen and Oxygen -- then the submarine is perpetually kept from sinking. So, to make a "nuclear submarine" even better, you just drill a hole in the wall. You tap the jet to turn a turbine. The turbine generates electricity. The electricity you use to split the water molecule. You use the hydrogen and oxygen for additional rocket fuel. Your entire u-boat becomes powered by mostly hydroelectric waterwheel. Free energy as long as atmospheric pressure is high while you keep your low pressure bubble always away from equalizing. That, in a nutshell, is the basis of just about every over-unity device or scheme out there which draws energy from the vacuum.

Anyhow, so I'm working on some product lines in electrical power production for Defense needs. The new version of X-GEN I'd like to release publicly, but cannot at this point. She's designed to output anywhere from 15kW to over 600kW. Zero fuel. Yes, over-unity. Free energy, etc. Of course, I need to downplay that in marketing it initially.

Other issues that come up are that I'm stuck dealing with mostly defense circles initially due to export control matters. Been designing to mostly power electric UAV aircraft for global flight continuously. Pushing at the moment sort of a manned aircraft flight for at least 4 global circumnavigations using the X-GEN systems as also a demonstrator for future EV's. Talking about how we can make EV's to go from San Fran to D.C. and back, and back again, and back again, etc. Export control has authority over anything that upgrades UAV systems (also potential improvised cruise missiles made by terrorists). CIA and USAF presently can't fly their drones much past 24 hours and I'm proposing to do that for years on end; At least a month by manned tour around the globe 4 times.

All that is possible technically, but, for over 100 years, it's the same story Tesla faced. Concurrently, I plan to make the X-GEN available in kit form for builders such as on this forum. Or, they can build as they like from the patent schematics and info later. Lotsa details, business, and political maneuvers to make.

I'm trying to go a completely different course from the usual mistakes scientists have made over the years. Sort of a reverse psychology affair, actually. Thinking I'll probably just keep passing it around as general information and publicly with no key details. Patent filed {Note: That's confusing. Patent is being prepared for initial filing}, but no patent yet (so no details are given away). Given to the greenies (I'm not a greenie or lefty, by the way) but, again, with no details. Details (are) protected beyond government ability to suppress. My lab's preference for dealing with only defense contractors and keeping it secret....all stuff that'll tick off the greenies all the more. Then, on matters like Export Control and public disclosure, I'm just going to dump that into President Obama's lap. "Here, you deal with it. Merry Christmas. I could care less what you guys do! You wanted energy hope and change? There you go. Make it something other than politician talk. I leave 95% of the business and money open to even the evil energy and oil companies. The world knows about it. The greenies are going to be real, real pissed if you don't give them X-GEN and real change as you promised. I've even given you a whole new vision for a wild, future space program that can be accomplished in our lifetime. You can have a space program legacy greater than J.F.K. if you want it. Forget all this cheesy, multi-decade mission to Mars stuff. We can do far better when these energy matters are declassified. I don't care to do business with your greenie pals. Only Skunk Works. " Stuff like that.

Rather than push free energy, I intend to dangle the carrot and lock it away until they're pissed enough to want it Snow Labs declassified and promoted! Let them do the marketing for us. No such thing as bad publicity, either. Stuff like that. Still figuring out the optimum course, but different, shocking, and radical is about all I can say is my preferred style always.

So, then, what brought me back to this forum is to post a thread. Making things levitate is also a fun of mine...


I'm not into the whole space alien thing. Don't know what's up there! Truly. But, I just love airplanes and spacecraft, and we can someday make birds just like in the sci-fi movies.

I'm going to be too busy with this energy stuff and don't have the time right now to tinker with many of my ideas. Don't want to lock those ideas in secret, either. I figure it best to solicit experimentation and free use among this world of electrical tinkerers on this and other forums. They're into this sort of stuff, too. Capable of the electrical and electronics tinkering they are. It would compromise a few potential patents of mine, but oh well. I'd rather see the world making fun, new paper airplanes at least and getting school kids thinking about this sort of stuff.


Gotta run. Nice to meet you.

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So that's it dudes. You wanna talk about making stuff fly or what?

Some notes:

Electrokinetic / Electrogravitic Lifters/ T.T. Brown stuff -- I see that more like a chicken trying to fly. Insufficient lift/ thrust per pound. Caveman stuff.

Boyd Bushman's coil -- More like a turkey trying to get airborne. Greater lift per watt input, certainly, but still a turkey.

John Hutchison's work -- More like a goose trying to fly. Better lift. Closer to the core. There are many other real anti-gravity means.

Edward Leedskanlin's work -- Now this dude I believe was a true master at anti-gravity. I've followed his work on and off for almost two decades. Didn't pay much attention to it. Suspected maybe he did levitate those 5 ton stones, but didn't know how back then. Just kept an open mind. Still haven't figured it out, fully. Maybe to only about 85%. But, that whole place is just one big Tesla schematic. It's all one big magnetic current radio station! As with Hutchison's work (and the Stan Deyo/ SAC Nav coils you have in this thread), the secret to understanding it dwells in the slammed together magnetic waves.

For those of you experimenting with the Deyo wedding cake there, I can tell you that my own initial tinkerings are inconclusive, but were interesting. I only studied one SAC NAV coil quickly, but it was very sloppy. Even the washer was loose. Just threw together one Sunday afternoon to play with. Just magnet wire about a nut & bolt. Took a washer and made a toroidal coil. Wired the whole thing in series. One end to the positive terminal of a car battery. The other end of the coil wrapped around a metal file. A ground wire from the battery I would stroke along the file to get a broad range of frequencies (Same design as in those old Radio Shack engineering notes for broad spectrum, low power, AM transmitters). That was my coil. Yes, a little dangerous but I wanted the short circuit factor in the picture, too. The whole issue of shorting is another vacuum matter.

Anyhow, so I tied that coil to an old O-Huas Dial-O-Gram balance here. Below the coil I tied some weights. I forget at the moment. Didn't even measue, but it's a golfball-sized quartz rock with some additional brass weights tied on to compensate for having removed the hanging tray. Set everything to neutral zero on the balance and then began stroking the file. The uncertainty of the experiment comes from having done this outside in slight wind conditions which did deflect the scale a bit. The slightest nudge of the wires also deflects the scale. So, you have to eliminate that in future experiments. I just taped the wires down better and tried to stroke the file between wind conditions. Did it repeatedly to see if I could find any anomalies that were curious.

Conclusion? I dunno. Bad experimental setup there. Needs more work, but I believe there were a few times of rapid needle deflection -- full scale and more powerful than wind or wire wobble could do, and longer in period. All that off just 12 Volts DC made into sloppy AC. Only thing that cut it short was that I melted my thin wires used. Fusing current I'd estimate for 20 gauge wire was about 58 Amps. At about 13 Volts, that was something like 754 Watts possibly making weightless about 155 grams with a broad range of frequencies input due to variance of speed to the file stroke. Nothing wild or dramatic there. Nothing even certain. When I have more time, I want to do it indoors, among a better setup, with controlled frequencies piped in, and with scale deflection measured on my DAQ gear.

I have also been exploring some of Floyd Sweet's Vacuum Triode Amplifier energy designs at smaller scale and component level which are reported to have lost weight with increased over-unity. The magnetic sandwich he made there along with coils set up perpendicular to each other -- same as in these SAC NAV / Deyo wedding cake coils -- certainly bears interesting qualities related to magnetic current. For example, I pump in signal to a mini Sweet VTA assembly and watch that signal transform on DAQ. It's basically a transformer like that. Nothing too interesting found yet other than when I DAQ measure the radiant energy that flows from the ionosphere through my body, to my finger, and to the magnet...it nicely amplifies that a little bit. It's basically a magnetic current detector which transforms into electrical signal like that.

Last night, I was fiddling around with some scale measurements between identical neomagnet assemblies for fun. Trying to replicate in small scale the Boyd Bushman replication of Galileo's ball drop experiment. Just some neo ring magnets stacked together and separated by small diameter washers on a nut/ bolt. First trial with magnets all in attraction. Another trial with two of the three magnets in attraction; 1 in repulsion. Air gap. Other measurements with them all in attraction and no air gap. Other measures with them clamped together tight in repulsion. Conclusions? Nothing certain. Again, just sloppy and quick tinkering on the side. A little break time exploration of some concepts. I did notice a 0.4 gram weight difference between identical assemblies, but there's too much room for experimental error at this small scale and with an eyeballed balance. Also weight difference as you adjust the air gap between repulsive magnets, and that makes sense. Something is there, very probably, but nothing I can declare conclusive by these hokey means.

This morning I have a funky new coil that I haven't tested yet. It's three neo magnets stacked in replusion form. Same as last night and with an air gap. Between the two, narrow air gaps, however, I have wound thin coils (old Tesla form). Two of those. One input and one output, though you could also play with them in series. Taped it up. Around the clamp assembly, I larger gauge magnet wire making a perpendicular coil assembly (A different version of the Deyo SAC Nav coil in your thread here. The twin toroids are Tesla coiled (unconventional solenoid coil wrap) and scrunched between the neo magnets. Those are on the inside. The solenoid coil you see around the bolts in the wedding cake style on this forum....that's on the outside of my neos. What's it do? Will it float? Will it go weightless? Oh, I dunno. I leave that for you all to play with if you like.

In these small scale tinkerings, I have been less interested in the anti-gravity aspects and more in the power surge possibilities. If you remember the tale of the Sac nav coil (My father and godfather were both Strategic Air Command navigators and I was born on a SAC base, by the way. Pure coincidence, though. No, we didn't murder the missing SAC nav! )...Mr. Deyo says it hopped up into the air. The guy tried to shut it down, but it wouldn't. It arced over his knife switch. Then, he beat it down. It crashed. Upon return to gravity, the power surge is said to have blown out a neighborhood transformer. Now, if you think about that...that's a helluv a lot of electrical output for very little input. If you compare it to the Floyd Sweet VTA reports of trying to go weightless....the SAC nav coils are far more potent...if true.

There are many other ways, but, anyhow, that's kinda what I fiddle with in regard to X-GEN future upgrades. Strong over-unity and strong anti-gravity go hand in hand, as does slight time and space shift. But, everyone thinks in terms of Time and Space being together in the same space-time metric. I think we need to break away from that perspective. You can warp both time and space separately when you do your coilings and assemblies right.

The spooky part is that, one day, people will figure out how to make their own time machines from just Radio Shack parts! You'll have every teeniebopper girl with her cell phone time machine texting us into Armageddon! If not that, you can boost atomic weapons or build them from Radio Shack parts alone, but, fortunately, it's far easier to just build a conventional nuke. If I had just $100k free and more time to devote to it, the only hard part for me in building a conventional nuke would be acquisition and enrichment of Uranium. The rest is pretty straight forward engineering. Uranium you can mine covertly, so it's mostly just engineering enrichment methods. But, don't sweat it, I prefer to build more useful things -- generators and far flying aircraft . Stuff like this...



Just wondering if any of you would like to tinker around and share some findings? Gave you some toys to play with there. You'll need a frequency generator, some spare PC's and frequency generator software, spectrogram software (even Ham gear is fine), and cheapie DAQ gear. We need to build a digital scale for DAQ analysis first. We don't need to have things flying through the air. First, you methodically measure lift versus wattage over various designs. Refine the model of flight. Once you have your optimum Lift per watt, then you build in larger scale.

To date, none have done that better than Leedskalnin, I believe, but he's totally off the electrical map. Lots of overlapping principles, though. It all boils down to diamagnetic levitation, mostly. Leedskalnin was just the inverse of frogs in a Tesla coil. I have partially decoded a lot of his writings and work there at Coral Castle, as others have done. He seems to have known the magnetic spectra for coral and water. You can even see that declaration etched on his rock monuments. I believe he was taking the magnetic current of the earth, amplifying it, and modulating it, and also splitting it. Then, recombining it in interference form with the coral. Making those 5 ton stones basically enter into a fast kind of Hysteresis Effect. Pretty much the same thing as a frog levitated in a Tesla coil. Seems to have also shaved those rocks like butter -- same way Hutchison was fusing metals. Secret is also in the water, I believe. I think he knew the magnetic spectra there, too. Somehow measured it from the sun. That "AC generator" appears to have been designed to hold water. I think he used water inside there as sort of a crystal oscillator. Then, maybe just dumped water on his rocks while bombarding them with magnetic current radio waves, and that's your tuning in of the radio dial to a matched frequency. I dunno. Speculation, for now.

SL3,

Welcome to the forum.

I don't mean to hijack the thread, but you spark my interest when you mentioned exerience in alternative medicine.

I'll send a Private Message to you so we keep this thread on topic.

...Forget the Ion Wind Model. Forget anything of electricity. Forget particles. See only waves to our universe. Take it down to a wave perspective and consider Leedskalnin's view of two magnetic waves behind it all. All that with positive and negative electric current as just the peanut butter and jelly between the wave sandwich. Magnetics, not electricity, is where we need focus. Trying to create flight from high voltage and electricity is chicken winged stuff. In fact, if you look at the JNL experiments in lifters, stepping up the current while even lowering voltage gives more lift.

If you look at the Boyd Bushman coil (a flying turkey)...the secret dwells there! What's that about? 60 Hz AC current and around 15 amps at 120 volts. So, you have about 1800 Watts generating lift there. Compare that to 50,000 volts and milliamps of current. Total lift per watt depends on how much current and voltage you pump through the electrokinetic lifters. But, looking at the Bushman coil gives you a better clue as to what's going on with the toy lifters. That's not just a powerful electromagnet. If it is possible to gain lift on a coil like that while sitting on just a wood table (improving where metal is placed underneath, but just vibrating and trying to liftoff all the same in many experimenter cases)...that tells you the B vector isn't much of an issue. Something else is going on. But, what?

Okay, so go back to Hysteresis Effect. You have copper wire there. You're alternating about 15 amps of current polarity in that copper wire. Imagine being a dazed and confused atom and electron in that wire. The outlet is telling you to orient one way. Then, they tell you to orient another. It's indecisive to almost the point of weightlessness!!!



..The key is in the magnetic propeller issue. Every atomic nucleus and every electron having magnetic moments. North/ South polarity. Positive and Negative charge. It's in the Leedskalnin view of matter really having no mass at all; Just being empty space or null points between waves and polarities. Matter is more like a tangled and condensed, symmetric ball of "string" that tries to hover and do strange things when you make it a bit asymmetric.

So, let's take that down to the electrokinetic lifter. Same Ion Wind Model, but, this time, focus on the what's going on with the magnetics of it all! As those ions flow, you have magnetic current loops around them! A propeller action and vortice generated from the wire to the plate. Those vortices are spinning in opposite directions and are fairly separate, but then collide again. Stan Deyo noted that effect in some of his videos. It's like spinning pools balls of opposite rotation striking each other.

...That's all that's going on with the Electrokinetic Lifter issue, in my view. All I see are magnetic propellers in both the Bushman Coil and the lifter issue; Same for with Leedskalnin. Same in the Searle saucer. Loop the magnetic current and weird things always happen!

If you want to build a perpetual motion device and superconductor, just replicate the Leedskalnin perpetual holder (a looped transformer). It's also a kind of high temperature superconductor and magnetic current storage battery.

Emery Version - Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder - KeelyNet 06/05/03

...Okay, you guys have a great weekend and, when you've made my UFO...
...we'll go test fly it to Mars. Got a little party waiting for us there!
Ample chicks and beer.

YouTube - I want to be Martianic-American!!!!!

You know, sometimes I wonder about all these UFO people and their talk. What is it now? Three to four supposed space alien crashes on earth? The Roswell one shot down by an Air Force pilot? I dunno. I dunno. Sounds to me like they just failed to bring my beer to Mars and opened a few kegs too early! Little twits can't fly or even party properly. I say we build our spaceships, venture forth to conquer the galaxies , and execute these little mother f'ers everywhere encountered!

Woo hoo!

Kirk out.

Thanks for the welcome. Nice to meet you. I'll check my email.

Hi SL3 and welcome to the forum!
Some great info in your posts!
Thank you!

I am happy not to be the only crazy one around anymore.

SL3

In particular interested in your takes about COUNTER-gravity - which is the
better word to use since ANTI-gravity means to cancel/eliminate/destroy.
If you look into German research around 1930-1945 and Russian from 1944
to date you will find lots more info and results than American hidden info.

Oh yea, don't forget the wave transmission - how is that to be done?
Yes, I believe it was actually done on this earth many centuries ago, but how?

Copper wire are extremely limited; like candle compared to lazer beam.

Enjoy.

I do plenty of research on anti-gravity and design a coil from the information collected. The setup of an air coil show me use a bedini motor fan to charge a capacitor in several sec!!! really quick to 150v thank to zero point energy, but be carel with the capacitor. You can't see really will but it jumping the two set of coil are series. The design you can see similar setup of electromagnets from billy meier ufo, stan deyo, jeff cock coil, Tesla, EV Gray repulsor, Ralph Ring and Otis Carr, and many more the list seem endless. I know all anti-gravity propulsion must have duality aspect to create some kind of vortex the singularity, simple as that. All I need now to charge the cap fast to create the high frequency part.

My coil jumping

YouTube - Pulse Propulsion

Show the bedini motor quickly charge and fires cap you can hear the click noise when the capacitor fires
YouTube - Pulse motor, Capacitor , and Coil equal lift off.
Here some great link that made come up with the idea


Billy meier and Pleiadians propulsion

YouTube - The Pleiadian Mission - Billy Meier UFO Case - Pt. 5 of 12

Ralph Ring ufo ( this close to my design because it use large capacitor but is way more special than my because it control with consciousness, "cool")

YouTube - Project Camelot interviews Ralph Ring
(Plan of space ship)
http://www.projectcamelot.org/design.gif

EV Gray Propulsion ( Plastic Coil you can particular use anything next time going to fly a brick)
YouTube - EV GRAY Motor and Cold Energy lost Video
Suggest power supply you want to power your coil EV Gray motor
YouTube - EV GRAY Pulse Motor (Experiment #1)

Tesla Propulsion (Very detail)
Nikola Tesla, Man Ahead of His Time (or How to Build a UFO)

Here is some more info Directory:Antigravity for Dummies -- Stan Deyo Lecture - PESWiki

Hi guys. Thanks for the welcome.

Runningrage -- Much appreciated links. You have me rethinking my perspective on T.T. Brown's electrokinetics as chicken feather stuff! EV Gray is an area I haven't explored much. Ran by the name, but this whole field is pretty big and I'm still fairly new to all these things. Much appreciated and I'll continue to explore your links.

Mlurye -- Thanks to you, too. I haven't clicked on the link yet, but will now.

Aromaz -- Glad to meet you! I myself am among the comfortably insane! Plain batty. I really hate to talk of these things. I was trying to keep Snow Labs still fairly respectable, but oh well. That can only be faked for so long anyhow! My own take on talk of ancient space flight is, well, sort of quasi-biblical (Catholic). Little green men playing around on the ancient earth and maybe a lost continent of Atlantis? Probably just fallen angels and devils setting themselves up as gods on earth. The ancient Nephilum; Fallen angels bred with our lovely earthling ladies. Can't blame them, really. Heck, I'd probably have joined in on the fun! So, from that take of biblical madness (I'm not one of these fanatical bible pounders, by the way. My religion is pretty much the same as you saw to Mother Teresa or Pope JPII)....all sorts of mayhem prior to the flood wouldn't surprise me in the least. Man climbing to great heights, levitation, arrogance, evils, and needing a good bath? Sure. Why not?

Then again, I could be wrong. I dunno. Maybe there were little green men visiting us and seeding the earth!


[To be continued]

[They cut my pictures off at 10. Sorry for the split posts, but I love my smilies!]

Other than the possibility of little green men maybe looking at us like potential cows for slaughter, it doesn't really threaten my Captain Kirk world view much. If the earth is it and nothing more? Fine. If there are other worlds and life out there? Fine. Then we're just an island all over again on a vast ocean, and I actually prefer the latter outcome. Whole new worlds to conquer! New worlds of Aztec gold to plunder! Build our galleons, plant the Cross, round up little green men into villages, enslave them, whatever. Doesn't matter to me so long as we someday build our new Viking raider ships!



One thing I notice among my own studies is that there does appear to have been -- over 10,000 years ago in North America -- a native race that was also oddly of Phoenician and Aramaic linguistic origins. When you look at all the petroglyphs, some of them have Ogham but also Phoenician/ Aramaic script. I can actually read them a bit pretty well. So, that's one pointer to some form of global superpower or single civilization older than conventional archaeology admits. Then, when you look at languages and their flow, you see that most natives in the Americas originate from Pacific races in Asia. Half my own ancestry comes down from the Marianas islands and I know that sailing the ocean was nothing much to them. They were natural deep sea divers. Excellent swimmers. Totally at home in the water and on Flying Proa almost like Kevin Costner in the Water World flick. For fresh water, they'd just dive and eat raw fish -- ample water and vitamins in the fluid. A little supply of nuts and planting seeds onboard. Some tools. You don't need much else. Same race that built Easter Island; Same dudes who fathered the Eskimo and American Indian; Same natives the Vikings encountered in the northeast Americas...those seem to be a later race; Almost like survivors of the Great Flood who happened to sail well.

Captain Cook notes in his logs having picked up an island sailor and used him as a navigator/ linguist. Where Cook depended on instruments, the native just used his hands and fingers to the stars; "Sail in that direction 3 days. Then, sail in this direction 2 days", etc. His accuracy impressed Cook.

I was reading a story of two fishermen picked up by a Spanish galleon some years ago. Fishing by boat was made illegal. Spain wanted to crush native independence, and so burnt the boats and gathered natives into villages. The original native race (now only seen in the Northern Marianas and places like Samoa) had intimidating males who were built more like that wrestler, The Rock. You can't have big guys like that running around in lightning fast, little boats, and remembering the warrior life fondly. So, anyhow, the Spanish had these two natives shackled at the arms and legs. Iron bars behind the back, and they opted to just jump ship and swim for shore. Captain's log reports that they swam fast like dolphins for miles. Ship could barely keep up. Multiple shots fired. Multiple hits. Finally, both were killed. The account was so amazing that they felt a need to note it with admiration in the logs. Anyhow, if you can swim like that and have sort of a religious relationship with sharks...crossing the peaceful ocean isn't really that big a deal. I think a lot of the urge to venture was also based in shamanistic sight, intuition, visions, etc. Hard to describe. It's sort of a cultural deep arrogance, too.

The ancient native oddly had a grid system of navigation with latitude & longitude lines. My uncle showed me one from the islands once. Made of beads on string (like an abacus). Shaped like a tennis racket from bamboo and other woods. So, how did they know the earth was round back then? I figure people were either sailing globally back then and earlier. Or maybe even flying, too. Actually, on our island, the Catholic priests were amazed that the native religion was closer to monotheism with even a strange kind of quasi-moslem view that all the world's people derived from us. Now that's scary! We have old tales of an ancient sea empire that spanned all the Pacific, parts of Asia, and into the Americas. Was said to be ruled by a high council of the gods. Wars here and there. For a time, they say our island was the capital of that empire. But who knows with natives, lies, and tall tales.

I wonder sometimes, though. The arrogance fits. We did have the fastest sailboats in all the world, and they're the fastest still. We had some of the most hideous of weapons and slings compared to other islands. Politically, the Marianas was stable. Centralized government with smaller townships and chiefs. Stable religion. Ample agriculture. All factors of empire. But how big? Tall tales say we ruled the whole world! Reality? I think maybe our islands and some others; Maybe into the other continents for a time. I dunno. Some studies by the Army Research Lab tell us that the ancient mariner from our islands alone were unique with respect to all the world's people in regard to massive trapezius muscles and cranial protrusions from the strain of neck ligaments -- tremendous upper body and torso development typical of the deep sea diver, canoe rowing, and extensive quarry activity for the megaliths scattered all over the pacific. In fact, I know from family of one secret site with ample megaliths that no man has ever seen in almost 100 years due to burial by water. Before covered up, it was like a little Eden valley.

...So, for thousands of years in my own ancestral world, I can tell you that men were not floating stones! In latter Egypt, I think they were not, either. However, when you look at some of the Ancient Egypt engineering -- things probably closer to an Atlantis period and old legend by the time the Greeks heard of it -- there is clearly a civilization advanced far beyond anything of the old world. Nothing in our little islands ever approached that level of technology as far as I know. The mathematics and physics when you deeply study these pyramids is still just awesome. Yes, I think they had ample electricity in really ancient Egypt, not Cleopatra's day. I think they were skilled more so in magnetics. I haven't even really studied these matters to the depth of many of you reading this, but various signatures of a lost, advanced civilization do I see in Egypt. Wouldn't surprise me if the really ancient dudes were levitating stones.

...And then, when you take that back to my own ancestors in the Pacific...again, yup, some of the stones were just too big to move. I suppose you could do it with ample leverage, ropes, and manpower. Strong mechanical intuition. But, some things don't really fit. There are some carved rock slabs in the world that no modern equipment can even lift. So maybe there was levitation? I dunno.

I was corresponding with a physician friend on these matters. He's more on the witch doctor side, but a great curative monster who has tended to over a million patients in poor nations among his career. Something he pointed out to me the other day is that we should consider perhaps all these Egyptian paintings we see of slaves engaged in labor over the pyramids...might have been symbolic. Symbolic of the virtue of "labor and suffering for the gods" when maybe men levitated the stones.



[To be continued]

...Makes a bit of sense when you hear modern politicians yapping on how they "fight for us". "I fought for this bill", etc. Yeah, yeah. Right. More b.s. As if their noses are bloody?! As if they ever fought for anything in their cozy lives?! Hah! Sounds almost like Egyptian aristocracy all over again to me.

So I dunno. Ed Leedskalnin claimed he knew the secrets of the pyramids. When you dissect his work and Tesla's, it is clear they were both well versed in doctrines of Freemasonry. I do not know if Leedskalnin was a disciple of Tesla's or vice versa, but they appear to be brothers of the same geometric thoughts, certainly. Here, look:


This is an image of Tesla's Unipolar Generator. Observe the interior geometry which is vastly more than ordinary geometry.


This is the Leedskalnin "AC Generator".

* Please note most of these images are not mine. I do not recall at the moment where I even snipped many of them from. The above image is from the website of John DePew at CORAL CASTLE CODE / JON DEPEW / FORMULA of ENERGY. He has done many dissections of the Leedskalnin site. Some magnetic experiments. There are many others out there with other perspectives, too. Mine are just additions to the research of others.

As for the how?

Some notes:

This is a little geometric art, puzzle, and key I drew up for fun one day. You can study it for a lifetime and continually discover new mathematical fun! The "how" is buried in there, though I have yet to fully levitate things myself! Always fun to be a bit mysterious!

But, let's look at a couple things...

[To be continued. Gotta break for a bit.]

Okay, so here's a picture of a model made of the Leedskalnin site. In the lower left corner is his house. On the roof, you will find a giant steel band set up more like an antenna, and yet it's a hokey antenna as far as radio frequency engineering things go on the electrical side. Ah, but not for magnetics!

In that hooch, you have this "AC" generator, and yet what do you see about it? No coils. He has some tuning coils in his shop. Wire and electric work done, certainly. Probably, he was making electricity from this magnetic wheel and his iron rods there which are horseshoe magnets (to lense magnetic current). But, it makes no sense from an electrical engineering perspective.

When you look closely at his design and try to reverse engineer it, the things that call out to you are the extensive labor spent on curious little things. The number of magnets, but particularly the internal geometry. Put yourself in the paradigm of trying to replicate his work and this AC generator by your own hand on a limited budget. What do you see? Look at that Four Leaf Clover of steel banding! Why do that? What's the point? That's extensive labor! He's either a nutso artist or it had a purpose! And why the flywheel atop the thing? Why the nuts and bolts? Why not just sloppy thrown together as I'd do? There's a lot of time and labor in this wheel. And why hollow? Fishy.

...I'll get to the bands in a minute, but that blue section in his wheel...I think he put water in there. There's even somewhat of a waterline you can see in the photos. (Please note I have never been to Coral Castle and am only trying to reverse engineer it all from various photos and considerations).

Okay, what I don't have a picture scanned for is the larger view of his wheel assembly. Below this wheel, Leedskalnin has a crankshaft that is grounded to the earth (Same style as many of Tesla's ground rod designs.) We can view that as pumping signal and longwave magnetic pulses into the earth or drawing it up from the earth and radiating by sky. Sort of both in a full circuit. I'm a little fuzzy on that part still. Initially, I leaned toward skywave, but the more I think about Tesla....pumping into the earth wouldn't shock me, either.

Initially, I considered the "Drop Ten Cents Below" code. Immediately, I'm thinking of copper. Ten copper pennies dropped down a shaft. That draws me back to the crankshaft. Some sort of ground rod bored as a shaft, I suspect. I'm thinking of galvanic activity; Dissimiliar metal corrossion; Voltage. Steel to copper relationships. I'm thinking maybe he needed to make a copper bearing or something out of 10 pennies in order to facilitate some electrical flow and magnetic current as the wheel was hand turned. I dunno. All speculation there.

"Ring the Bell Twice"....Easy one there. Masonic analogy to the bell as others have noted, but goes back to the dual magnetic wave perspective. An ancient concept found in also the Caduceus. Bell implying frequencies at work. Twice rung implying interference, constructive or destructive.

You can see lots of evidence of some sort of radio station activity going on there, and here is what I suspect:




Carrier Magnetic Wave -- That's the sawtooth wave. I figure about 24 Hz if you consider a gentle 1 cycle per second hand rotation of the wheel. This is the magnetic pulse given off by his horseshoe magnets. They're 15 degrees apart; Again more holy geometry design.

The Bell Wave -- This I have overlapped with the Carrier Wave. That is the interesting magnetic pulse shape I see from those curious Four Leaf Clover bands.

The Compass Wave -- This one is a little harder to see, but I believe is a pulse formed by those nuts and bolts (in squirrel cage assembly) which clamp down the flywheel. I don't know how deep the bolts go or what is below the wheel, but I imagine there is steel there. And that makes the pulse of the compass wave.

In my diagram, I have considered the flywheel teeth and the ring itself, but the largest magnetic pulse anomalies would be from these three structures.

...So, carrier magnetic wave and two magnetic signal waves. "The circle squared" in each case of interference with the Bell Wave. At each interference with the Bell Wave, they are also opposite pulses. And I believe that creates a Zero Point. Empty space matter. Tesla's whole by which radiant energy is drawn in. Here, Leedskalnin seems to be separating his magnetic monopoles and recombining them.

Next, go back to my art puzzle there. You will notice Pythagorean geometry in 2-D. But there is a 3D cube. At the top of the cube, you'll see a pyramid. At its base, you see the Seal of Solomon. Four Leaf Clover. Eight Pointed Cross geometry. That's also the geometry at the core of Tesla's Unipolar Generator; At the core of Leedskalnin's wheel which is also a perfect inductor! And in that wheel's bucket, I think he poured water and magnetized it a bit. I think he was somehow reading the spectra.

A further clue to this can be found in his Moon Fountain...

Note the Seal of Solomon again (at the fountain's center just like in the wheel)
Note the two crescent Moons! (Two waves; Crescents like in his wheel).
Note the fountain's allegory to the wheel, and that the fountain has water in it where we normally think the wheel never did.

Okay...


Now it's harder to see here, but on the left and right bottom slabs...you can see some vertical spectra markings. Rectangles. I don't know if that's what they are because I have never been there, but that's what it called to me as.
Frequency spectra the minute I saw it.

This whole monument is just a story in symbol. Bottom layer? North pole left; Solid matter / heavy matter center; South pole right. Second layer has two smaller monopoles surrounding empty space. Third layer up has what looks like a levitating stone picked up by a horseshoe magnet this is the Masonic square.

...Next, if you look at his various carvings and writings, it's hard to articulate and would take too long, but I see a continual symbolic statement of water to the stones. As he carved them like butter using a hot water jet. Or perhaps more like water carrying some sort of Hutchison Effect breakdown of the coral. I think he knew the magnetic spectra of the coral and water; Their magnetic music, where we normally think in terms of electromagnetic spectra.

Well, that's it for today. I'll just attach a couple other photos in one more post.

Enjoy!

* In the hologram above, you can note three cases of motion:

1) The tetrahedra rotating in opposite directions (easy to see).

2) The tetrahedra rotating in the same direction to the right (more difficult to see.)

3) Both tetrahedra at a complete standstill (only visible from the mind's eye and rotating your mental frame of reference circularly around the objects).

Point? As matter, we only think in solid geometries. At the level of Light and empty space -- which all matter boils down to -- you can take multiple and even infinite hypergeometric views of the same thing. That's why we can view Light as a particle or a wave (Particle / Wave duality) when, in reality, it is the same thing at the core. At the zero point, the math and geometry and wave issues grow a little more infinitely goofy than classical and quantum mechanics understands.

Oh, one more thing: Aromaz, on Anti-gravity vs. Counter-gravity, I'm having a hard time articulating it because it's still fuzzy in my head, but I don't really even think of gravity much anymore. Sounds crazy, but I'm not sure it even exists. We model the force of it all the time, but the modern world of science is filled with hacks who trashed Maxwell's original equations anyhow. Not so sure I trust Newton's F=G(m1)(m2)/r^2 anymore. Not sure I trust the warped space and gravity model of Einstein anymore. My great grandfather was one of the top 16 mathematical physicists on the A-bomb (Yeah, another Leedskalnin "Sweet 16" oddity). He was big into coils, electricity, magnetism, and kind of like the American king of hypergeometry. The mathematicians still study and learn from his work while the bulk of his publications are nuclear classified still. He actually did a lot of coil and ship degaussing work for the Navy right around the time all this Philadelphia Project legend started up. But, in any case, he also had an obscure mathematical theory presented in a physics journal on a magneto-electrical model for gravity.

...Anyhow, I see it all as magnetics at the core. Electricity in both directions nothing more than the peanut butter and jelly between the two magnetic loaves. I look at things less in terms of fields at times and more in terms of eddy currents and vortices. Like two currents in a river intersecting to form a water spout; Or how tornadoes are formed from intersecting air current. The spout is the vector and the field is from its hypergeometric loop back upon itself.

I haven't really resolved it all yet in my head, but, basically, when we loop the E (electric) vector through coils, we get a B (magnetic) vector. When we loop the magnetic vector into also a current, we get an anti-gravitic/ counter-gravitic vector or spout. When we loop the gravitic vector into a current, we get a Time vector or spout. When we loop Time, I think we get Space vectored. And when we loop that once more, I dunno what we get. And I could be wrong. Stuff like this I have to take a break from now and then; for it makes my wee little head dizzy and actually drains my vitality. I strain awhile and it comes to me later.

It's the best I can figure, for now. I'm hoping some of you might add to my own thoughts and take me in new directions, too.

Nice to meet you all.

Stan

P.S. I am not Stan Deyo in disguise or anything like that, by the way. Total coincidence (or perhaps divine intervention! ) that he and I have the same names and Air Force relation. Not any of the other Stanley's in this energy stuff, too.

Jetijs-- Sorry I forgot to say hello and glad you enjoyed the read. Forgive me. I got kinda gravitationally orgasmic to have found my kindred spirits in future Aviation!

hey guys ...


what about Stan`s little antigravity experiment ... any clues?




Hinja

@ Sl3 - you're right not to trust newton or einstein.

Read dmonarch's radiant matter thread, Aromaz's joint research thread, my own beating Lenz's law thread (inc peter lindemann's links) and then bodkin's primary state of matter thread.

It'll all make sense then.

Love and light

@SL3

THe more I look, the more I am happy to see I am not alone with my crazy idea's!

About counter-gravity et al - Personally I got it for myself,
Gravity = Magnetic flux
Weak force vs strong force = magnetic flux

So in my own mind: Skip all the rest, I only have to consider one force
in all of nature, universe and atoms: Electromagnetic.

That explains counter/anti- gravity, that explains my nuclear experiments
THAT explains why nobody can succeed with OverUnity devices in their
current mental line. Got to get away from conductor/battery concept.

Good luck, I enjoyed reading and seeing your posting.

I think better we make a new tread, something like

Energy by Crazy people for Crazy people Joint Research ??

Then we can tackle many ideas and roll it systematically.

Hi guys.

Inquorate -- Thank you for that. I have much more to study and appreciate the pointers! More questions for you all later I'll have, certainly. I look forward to showing you some of my own electrical work over time and explaining it. Mostly, it's an integration of engineering tactics from some of the best things you've seen and some of the latest you haven't yet seen. Expensive stuff for high performance units. Stuff you can also build at home and as an experimenter, too.

Aromaz -- Life is so much nicer when we don't have to impress the world with our sanity! When they know you insane, it is just expected! It appears we're on the same line of thought regarding magnetics, too.

An analogy for you:

Whether the nucleus or the atom, I look at them like aircraft gyroscopes. Imagine gutting a Sperry gryo. Or having a baseball in front of you that can spin real fast about all 3 axi. Imagine that you have air jets blowing it in all directions....so fast that you can't see it and the ball even appears still to your eyes.

Okay, so you then grab the baseball and try to squeeze it still with a gorilla's grip. What happens? It's an angry, insane, mad gyro. It doesn't like that. It sends shockwaves through your hand and bones. It tries to liftoff and fly in some quasi-random direction. Random only because we haven't microscopically analyzed the forces and trajectory But, it had inertia built up and then we tried to GIMBAL LOCK it. And it responded with a counter-gravitational force in resistance. Just inertia transformed, which is also acceleration, which is also gravity in the Einstein model.

When I was a kid starting out in rocketry, I tried to argue that Einstein's speed limit at C could be broken. I called it VL1 like Mach 1. My argument was that the exponential increase in thrust required to achieve greater velocity was the very same curve we saw prior to breaking the sound barrier.
There, we just changed the wing shape and punched through. Here, we need to change the wing shape, but in different form. We need to shed inertia or gravity while continuing the acelleration. And then you can have a wild bird!



So, I designed a model rocket experiment with Estes toy rockets. One conventional. The other having interior guts that would allow a weighted washer to fly back with acceleration and produce an additional jet of thrust. Inertia transformed to additional thrust. Demonstration of that by increased flightpath longevity. We never tested it, but I just worked it up and talked about it for some extra credit. Physics prof. gave me some love.

Anyhow, if we can well counter the gravity, we can fly really, really, really, really fast! And in the gyro analogy, just touching that gyro and making it pissy is a deflection and harnessing of intertia.

I haven't fully digested Bearden's massive archives, but I view the atom and electron also along his Pumped Phase Conjugate Mirror model. Here, just touching that spinning baseball with your finger and disturbing it...is a pumping of the nucleus (or the electron, or the subparticles which are just also waves). So, in the gryo analogy, it makes sense that a little tickle of the angry system of high inertia would have it spit out a pissy reaction (and energy draw from the Vacuum). In fact, even if we were to look at that atomic nucleus or the electron as perfectly still -- like a frozen photographic shot -- there is still angry gyro intertia in the system; for our frozen 3-D and 4-D view is not the reality of the hypergeometric universe all around us. What we view as zero motion (no change of space) and timeless is still in ample motion among an infinite, hypergeometric frame of reference that is presently defined as "The Vacuum".

It is like that spinning tetrahedra in analogy. We are conditioned to think of them as two objects, but, as light, they can be many things that seem counterintuitive and yet are still reality of the image and possibilities.

So I look at it more as a gimbal locking issue, and that's what's going on in the SAC nav coils. You're seemingly trying to lock down at least two axi for the atom, and so its spin inertia and that of energy taken from the vacuum will tend to move the coils in whatever direction is the path of least resistance. But is it just two axi?

If we look at the AC current going through a straight wire, it is propeller twirling atoms. They would like to flip and wobble, but with current increases spin like turbines. So that's one spin axis. Call it "X". For the toroid coil about the washer, the straight wire going in, we can call a second gyro axis "Y". Okay, so two there. But, what about through the coil turns? What's going on there? I see the spinning atoms with the AC current, but there is also electron flow in the straight wire and the coiled. Through the coils, you're pulling high g turns like a race car or fighter pilot. There's a centrifugal force that wants to fly the electrons off the "road", and yet we contain or "gimbal lock" that energy down once more with the structure of the wire and insulation. Energy likes to transform and follow paths of least resistance where blocked. It navigates around brick walls rather than head banging, you might say! And so we have a transfer of that electrical energy to magnetic vector, vortice, and field while a portion of it still passes as electron flow. Other aspects are lost to Hysteresis heat. Back EMF, etc.

...Anyhow, so it's all just a highly inefficient way of producing magnetics when you can just go straight to the magnets and magnetic current. We mess so much with the peanut butter and jelly that is positive and negative electricity, but tend to ignore the magnetic loaves of bread. And the atoms in permanent magnets all prefer to march in goose step like happy magnetic nazis. So they get even more angry when you try to move them into disarray, and they also march more efficiently as well trained soldiers.

Anyhow, it's still fuzzy in my head, but with 3 gimbal locks like we do with the coils, it makes sense to me that there is nothing left for the energy to do but try to make an object's system weightless. Makes sense to me that that energy would start to beat away at the Time and Space sphere around it while drawing in energy from the ether through that very same sphere. And, if we make a 4th gimbal lock or even a 5th....we can transform that Time and Space from sphere to directional vector, too. They may look like spheres in our normal world view, but from other dimensional mathematical perspectives as a sphere is not a sphere. A good mathematician can turn a sphere inside out! So, what is a sphere but a mere line! Or even a zero point!


Pedja! -- My alternative medicine friend! Let's get your coils flying!

How are they wired? How are you pumping in the current through the coils? Do you have the solenoid and toroid coils separate or the same in series? In my file stroking experiment, I put mine in series mostly from having only one source of frequency at the time, and it made sense to me. I was thinking to flow the current through one coil and then have it bottleneck at that gimball lock. All the more angry as a gyro. All the more angry in a short circuit condition.

The short circuit condition is an interesting issue. Where positive and negative electricity meet, what do you see? Anger! Eddy currents and vortices again. Slammed together electric and magnetic forces all real pissy. Just like with water currents in a river, you get a new perpendicular spout! All magnetics, really. But, that's the spout which should act more against gravity because it's an inertial sort of angry vortice.

Have you ever felt it in arc welding? Ever get your sticks stuck on a piece of steel at 150 amps? What you see in interesting. The arc is gone. The circuit is shorted. A vibration begins! Electric and magnetic forces causing mechanical motion! Motion that is sideways or upward against gravity! It rings with a hertzian hum. The transformer in your welder starts to heat up. The wires start to heat up. You can blow a breaker, but the hum and energy loss seems to prevent a 20 amp breaker from blowing. So what's up there? I've got 150 amps at say 24 Volts shorted out and in colission. Back current and voltage. Why does it take awhile for the breaker to blow? Why don't my welding wires just melt like the smaller wires did on my coil testing? The heat is there, but seems dissipated somehow. Dissipated in the hum. "Ring the Bell Twice" sort of tolling of Leedskalnin. Dissipated in the mechanical energy of the noise. A counter-gravitic/ inertial noise!

So, I'm wondering if you grounded out your rig there and lost that levitation issue? I think you need the short circuit, but please don't be mad at me if you burn up your device there. And be careful not to burn down the house! Be careful of any power surges on shutdown.

How are you pulsing the current? What equipment are you using? Do you have any Data Acquisitions (DAQ) gear?

I use an 8 channel DAQ unit here by Data Instruments. It was only about $20, as I recall. In the testing of coils, you'll notice two conditions: 1) Almost no ability to measure their resonance when you ground things out; 2) You need to just detach the ground and use only (+) signal supply to get a greater amplitude of signal. The computer is already grounded anyhow. Double grounding only shunts all that voltage to earth where you want to see it in the coils. My gear here is somewhat crude, but I use an extra PC to generate frequencies out the soundcard. I also have a conventional frequency generator that doesn't put out much current or voltage and has to be amplified. But, I am able to small scale run interference waves together -- square, sawtooth, sine -- through coils.

I'll post some DAQ images later, but, if you study any coil enough (or just a flat wire) under one applied frequency, you will see interesting wave mathematics. The nature of the applied waves is a separate issue from coil geometry. It's all music. Some is ugly music. Others are more harmonic. There are octaves. In just one Hertz increase or decrease, you can move from a wave that is fairly flat and boring to a wave that is higher amplitude than the average signal pumped in. It's those "sweet spots" you want to design around. Even Leedskalnin's "Sweet 16" Hertz is an interesting key on the piano with its various octaves. Its root is 2 and 4 Hertz. The longwave primes are interesting places, too. Square waves tend to give you more energy efficiency and are a better mathematical match to the underpinning geometry of the universe. A sawtooth or sine wave are more like a poke at a wave rather than a flat-handed push.

I do not know if you can make your device airborne there, but you should be able to see it weigh less if DAQ measured well. And you should be able to see interesting electrical anomalies among a deeper study. Since I have not taken the time to build one yet, I would be happy to participate with all of you in building one here on this forum.

We need to get you set up on DAQ gear and an electronic scale design underneath the rig that cannot be messed with from the magnetic fields. Just a crude sensor that you can pipe into the 8 channel DAQ. Even some degree of noise is fine as long as it's known. What you're looking for are those small changes in signal which start to give lift. But, I think you will find it in the short circuit best in order to get that 3rd gimbal lock going.


Stan

...Some things of my great grandfather's work which may interest you.

Publications:

Mainly scientific papers of the National Bureau of Standards. Most writings were in the field of Electricity & Magnetism. Largest open-source published worked was The Hypergeometric and Legendre Functions With Applications to Integral Equations of Potential Theory.

The chief of National Applied Mathematics Laboratories, Dr. J.H. Curtiss, once wrote that Dr. Snow loved to return again and again to the beautiful theory of the Hypergeometric Function. “To derive new formulas pertinent to the hypergeometric function was, quiet literally, his hobby as well as his profession. It is a pleasure to see this important work now added to the Applied Mathematics Series of the National Bureau of Standards. It will stand as a fitting memorial to the author’s distinguished career at the Bureau.”

Some other Snow pubs:

• Formulas for Computing Capacitance and Inductance (NBS 544),
• The Magneto-Optical Parameters of Iron and Nickel (Physical Review, 1913),
• Mutual Inductance and Torque Between Two Concentric Solenoids (Research Paper No. 24, 1928),
• Mutual Inductance of Any Two Circles (No. 18),
• Effect of Clearance and Displacement of Attracted Disk, and also of a Certain Arrangement of Conducting Hoops, upon the Constant of an Electrometer (No. 17),
• The Mutual Inductance of Two Parallel Circles (No. 94),
• The Effect of Small Variations in Pitch upon the Inductance of a Solenoid (No. 304),
• The Attraction Between Coils in the Rayleigh Current Balance (RP615),
• Elastic Problem of a Wire-Wound Cylinder (RP 344),
• A Simplified Precision Formula for the Inductance of a Helix with Corrections for the Lead-In Wires (RP 479),
• Spectroradiometric Analysis of Radio Signals (RP 477, 1923),
• Formula for the Inductance of a Helix Made with Wire of Any Section (RP 537),
• A Standard of Small Capacitance (RP 1970, 1949),
• Electric Field of a Charged Wire and a Slotted Cylindrical Conductor (RP 542), [ Electrokinetic Lifter similar! ]
• Potential Problems and Capacitance for a Conductor Bounded by Two Intersecting Spheres (RP2032),
• Magnetic Fields of Cylindrical Coils and Annular Coils (#38),
• Alternating Current Distribution in Cylindrical Conductors (S477),
• Effect of Eddy Currents in a Core Consisting of Circular Wires (S544),
• Indeterminateness of Electrical Charge (S566),
• Drop of Potential in the Metallic Electrodes of Certain Electrolytic Cells (RP905),
• An Addition to the Derivation of the Force Formula to Include Some Terms of the Sixth Degree in the Coil Dimensions (RP1200),
• Correction to the Force Caused by an Axial Displacement of Some of the Turns in the Coils Made From Aluminum Ribbon (RP1200),
• Torque Between Concentric Single-Layer Coils (RP1208),
• Theory of a Single-Layer Bifilar, Absolute Standard of Mutual Inductance (RP1302),
• Mutual Inductance of Two Helices whose Axes are Parallel (RP1346),
• A Magneto-Electron Theory of Gravitation (** Somewhat similar to Dr. Einstein’s theories on Special & General Relativity. Published in the Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences. Nov 4, 1927) + other papers.

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Biographical Notes:

Dr. Snow is listed in 1952-3 ed., vol. 27, of Who’s Who in America and other books. Listed in American Men of Science during 1950’s. 14 Feb 1949 was one of 16 scientists out of hundreds of nominees given the Department of Commerce Medal of Award for Exceptional Service. 1902-03 student at Utah Agricultural College. Graduated magnum cum laude from Harvard University in 1906. Obtained PhD. from Univ. of Wisconsin in 1914. From 1906-1911 was professor of Physics and the head of the department at Brigham Young University. Fellow in Physics, University of Wisconsin, 1912-1914. Professor of Mathematics and head of the department at Univ. of Idaho from July 1914 to Mar 1920. Spent 35 years as a mathematical physicist at the Bureau of Standards in Washington, D.C. (Mar 1920 to 1950’s.) Returned to Ogden, Utah and continued to work for the Department of the Army in retirement. During W.W.II Snow was assigned to the Los Alamos Project/ Manhattan Project (1944-45). Was a member of the American Physical Society, American Mathematical Society, Sigma-Xi, and Gamma Alpha (Univ. of Wisconsin, 1913). Snow also did mathematical physics work for the U.S. Navy, Mine Laboratory, Washington Navy Yard, National Defense Research Committee, Department of the Army, Diamond Ordinance Fuze Laboratories. Most of his work at these agencies, with the exception of DOFL, was extremely classified. DOFL work was Restricted in nature. From 1943-1945, Snow did confidential work for the Manhattan Project which has never been released to the public. He received an Army Commendation for his work, though. Dr. Snow also received official commendation for his work from the U.S. Navy, Mine Laboratory, and Washington Navy Yard for his confidential work in the degaussing of ships. One report was co-authored with his son, Dr. Robert M. Snow (of NASA and MIT Research). As late as 1963, Snow was writing to Dr. Kurkjian about technical matters and carried a 57 year career in science. Sometime after this point, his eyesight started to fail and he had heart problems -- passing away in 1970.

Note: I always used to think talk of the old Philadelphia Project was typical fictional hype. However, in light of some things remembered among family, understanding my grandfather's work, and many new things learned -- particularly of the Hutchison Effect -- I am not so sure. Dr. Snow was a buddy of Doc Einstein; Senior to men like Ed. Teller. He was bigtime into coils! :-) Oddly also developed a magnetic theory on gravity during this period. Was also deeply involved in the degaussing of ships as a master of coil mathematics and geometry! :-) So you never know! His son-in-law was Dr./Col. Paul M.A. Linebarger -- father of Army/OSS/CIA psychological warfare & propaganda programs. Linebarger also had fun on the side as a famous science fiction writer named Cordwainer Smith. These two men advised some of our best Presidents and most famous generals, so, from 1920 to 1963, pretty much everything of the supersecret world -- fell under their watch in later years. You'll notice an interesting T.T. Brown sort of overlapping interest; Interests in gravity; Magneto-Electro gravity! And this is just the unclassified tip of the nuclear iceberg. My great gramps grew up in a day when Tesla was king and, as Skunk Works is alleged to have done with John Hutchison, I'm pretty certain Edgar Hoover stole Tesla's work on his deathbed for men like my grandfather to review. Linebarger worked from different compartments, but at the same high leve, and so a lot of the issues they faced or worried about regarding the future...you can find manifested in his sci-fi writings. Kinda like Leedskalnin code or Masonic allegory.

Talk to you later!

Mr. Illuminati

Almost forgot two things:

1) In my notation of welding observations, one striking issue is that, over time and use (ample shorting through welding), those ringing welding cables tend to try coiling up in helix form! Obviously, their natural state is a coil when shorted!

2) I find that high Hertz, KiloHertz, and MegaHertz waves -- while having a utility -- are just a tremendous waste of energy (just like electrics). If you measure Tesla's radiant energy as a spectrogram..



...You'll find that the bulk of it exists to the far left in the low frequencies. There is a bell-shaped anomaly in the middle from 10,000 to 15,000 Hertz but I don't yet know what that is. Haven't take the spectra in other locations. Doesn't seem to be worldly noise. I suspect maybe a natural harmonic of the peak to the far left. Could be something else, though. Anyhow, this is the radiant energy spectra to the world all around us, day or night. If you look at it more like a water pressure analogy -- like Tesla's undersea submarine with a hole poked in it -- you'll have a higher pressure "jet" from the Vacuum when operating in the peak spectral areas. The Tesla longwaves or at least their octaves. And, as you go up the scale to MHz, those octaves are also found. I just find the amplitude -- or "water pressure" through the hole -- is less.

All that integral calculus "energy under the curve"....that's free energy. Free wattage if you pipe it into a capacitor and trigger it out. It's a "solar panel" that operates day or night, and produces electricity even in the pitch black of night.

Check link out guy right now!!!
http://www.gravitation.org/Final_Rep...er_Control.pdf

Concrete proof how easy anti-gravity can demonstrate in front of your by gravitation institute. The institute reproduce the experiment by Telso research to test Rick Andersen theory on Aether Control. I Know this experiment was best handle one that gave out the proper date. Capacitors,coil, and pulse it= Houston We have lift off

I feel that capacitors work way better than using a signal generator. Maybe that the only thing you need to replace