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Old 03-11-2009, 07:09 PM
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Hi RunningRage,

Thanks for that. Very interesting reading. You know, I saw a coil and experiment like this just the other day over at JNL Labs. They had a movie on it, but I am having a hard time finding it this morning and have to get about with some other things. I'm sure you're aware of JNL Labs, but maybe others here are not. Here is a link to their propulsion page. Somewhere there -- maybe not this page, but on one of the many sublinks...I watched a movie with these very same two toroidal coils. As I recall, I think they were shooting a rod for a few feet. Reminded me a lot of the old mass driver propulsion concepts. Interesting Stan Deyo sort of "smoke ring" action against gravity with this sort of stuff. I think you will find better lift per watt, however, from the SAC nav coil geometry and Lorentz O. Many means, but turning the atoms and electrons into propellers is interesting at least for earthly things. Slammed together waves for a real "warp engine".


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Old 03-11-2009, 09:08 PM
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Over-Unity in silicates / quartz

Sort of a related side note here. Catching up on some reading re Radiant Matter and other suggested threads. Faraday's early speculations on what we know as plasma today, etc. Reminded me of some experiments I used to do back in school. Lightbulbs in the microwave oven to demonstrate plasma. Somewhere on this forum...I forget where....I ran by an author's note of the old toy radiometers and how Tesla admired them as the most elegant of radiant energy generators. An old girlfriend gave me one back in school, and later I cooked it in the microwave. Was an awesome experiment with so many observations. Electrons ejected under microwave into that vacuum bulb and one big plasma ball contained. Radiometer spinning wildly! Electric arc shooting to the top to align with the waves. Fresnel Dot and circular fringe patterns burnt on the glass where the arc tried to run through. Glass thimble microwave fused to the metal needle (same as industry's microwave welding of ceramic to steel exhaust valves). Photoelectric Effect. Today, however, I'm not so sure the massive degree of plasma in the vacuum of the ball originates from ejected electrons from the metal. Someone like Tom Bearden should study that issue more.

I wonder if perhaps there wasn't some tickling going on and drawing energy from the vacuum through the bulb's vacuum or related to it? Perhaps microwave run through the small -- Casimir-like "plates" -- that are the molecular structure of the glass. Waves through the narrow Casimir slit in a vacuum, and then plasma created -- just like in Cold Fusion experiments with water. You'd have to remove the metal from the toy radiometer and have that 99% vacuum inside the bulb to be sure.

In any case, I wanted to show you something different regarding quartz. Consider the old AM crystal radio sets. Nothing but free energy receivers there. No batteries; Just radiant energy through the crystal and with perpetual power to drive speakers. Quartz is fun stuff. In fact, when you heat it up with a welding torch, you can make it into miniature neutron generators sufficient to build smaller nuke warheads. High voltage output from heated quartz is why I make this post. Relates to propulsion issues.

Anyhow, check this link out regarding sand in the microwave oven.

YouTube - Microwaving an Hourglass as the Sand Tells Time

...Note the initial flash of 660 nanometer yellow which then fades to red. If you don't melt the quartz and were to just pulse that microwave energy to the quartz, you could probably get more energy out of that flash than what you put into generating the wattage for the microwave oven. It's not really energy released from matter or breaking bonds. I believe it comes from tickle of the vacuum and another pumped phase conjugate mirror setup. Just like the crystal radio set, the Hutchison petroelectric effect nature to quartz and other materials tends to be very useful.

It works also along these quasi-pumped phase conjugate mirror / over-unity lines:

Atoms found to interact unexpectedly


H + D2(v = 0, j = 0) → H + D2(v' = 3, j' = 4)

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Old 03-12-2009, 12:57 AM
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Need some serious speed from SSG

Does anyone know how to make bedini motor run 7-9 9v batteries without osscillating, cause it to stop. I can't use it as a radient osscillator because when it charge a cap I believe the voltage density isn't high enough to crate currrent even if my meter read like 200-300v. I want to show you guy literally the coil jump air coil but i need like 10,000 rpm running the motor to get a purple sparks it higher than the green sparks when discharging a cap.
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Old 03-12-2009, 03:11 AM
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SSG notes

I haven't gotten around to experimenting much with SSG's yet and am more interested in the greater over-unity devices. I do have an unbuilt radiant charger kit here that I want to explore sometime. Among the 10,000 RPM SSG's, this tricoiler was interesting.

YouTube - Tri Coiler Spin Up

What I read regarding the SSG's is that most experimenters don't exceed COP >1.0. However, others doing it right are said to achieve COP >11. Floyd Sweet's VTA was far more. Cold Fusion can achieve more. As for the higher COP SSG's, the better ones used some uncommon circuits you don't see most the experimenter crowd working with. Different transistors, etc. There is closer attention to spinning at higher RPM and using greater voltage in doing so. About 30 Volts and greater, as I recall. As for power pickup, increasing magnetic field flux (not just magnet strength and size) is an engineering issue. Tighter clearance between magnets and coils (1mm or less). Theoretically, as I understand it, voltage per coil geometry is given by formulas. Amps tend to be governed by wire size.

Why not just forget the SSG circuit difficulties and focus on the pulser? Instead of trying to drive an SSG to 10,000 RPM with batteries while extracting current (which would take considerable time), what's to stop you from taking a faster spinning air motor (like a die grinder)...or any electric motor...and just using that to spin your pulser? Then, you can just focus on the pulser. Same story. Strong magnets; Strong field; Tight flux; Good coils; Highest voltage possible; Wire gauge enlargened to allow current flow under a standard permanent magnet alternator model. If you can crank out enough wattage from a PMA more so than you use to turn it, you can use any kind of motor. But, since you're just trying to pulse your airplane there, you don't need over-unity focus. By moving away from the SSG circuit and complexities, you don't have to be restricted to its components.

Just a thought in repayment for your previous that were helpful to me.
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Inquorate-- Just wanted to say thanks for the pointers to other threads. Very interesting reading. I greatly appreciate your ether perspectives in the Radiant Matter thread. Still reading. No comment at this time. Fascinating things to digest.

So, yeah, Pedja....let's get these coils airborne!

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Old 03-12-2009, 06:18 AM
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In fact, so good I had to hijack it and put here!

From Inquorate over in the Radiant Matter thread; Relevant to this thread:

Inertia
@ bodkins, dankie is trying to get you to realise that all forces, matter and states of matter are due to resonance effects in the aether.. Thus all matter moves through the aether like sound waves move through steel. The aether is solid like steel, and matter is not solid, like sound waves. AND, just like steel may be polarized magnetically, the aether has streams. But the aether is a bunch of vortex / spirals in order to transfer this 'motion' of a 'stream'.

As matter passes thru the solid aether, it encounters these spirals which create a particular vibration in the matter's atoms... This resonance wants to continue. This resistance caused is the effect of inertia.

To follow on from this, consider the 'random' motion of molecules, ie brownish motion. Atoms have a pos and neg. We know from our experiments electromagnetism interacts with aether. It is the random polarization of electromagnetic field of atom which gives it it's random seeming motion.

As to gravity, what is the polarization of electricity on the earth? as the earth moves through the aether, the impacts with matter creates electrons. We can verify this by our experiments. Thus the aether impacting on electrons is the cause of motion in a body.

How do we create anti-gravity? Reverse the polarization of electricity, AND destroy the vortex action of the aether.

Theoretically then we can create a vessel inside of which there is no inertia, which can effortlessly accelerate to thousands of kph in an instant, and vice versa.

Tesla knew this. He wrote a letter to the effect, and it was the basis of his electrogravitics book which the fbi seized at his death. Tesla travelled around london in an oven sized vehicle, before the wright brothers 'flight'. Google this if you wish. The letter he wrote was full of hope.

The germans had figured out this technology and this was how the 'foo fighters' worked. America now has it... And will probably stage an 'alien invasion', which is he one thing people would need in order to accept a one world government.

@bodkins, read william lynne's books I've sent to you after you forward them to Aromaz. Also read 'the biggest secret' by david icke. That's on the dvd's as well.

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Maybe chi is not slow moving aether waves, but a dynamic / flowing movement of standing aether waves? Matter is just standing waves of aether, virtual particles are the resulting nodes of aetheric compression resonating with the particle itself. So why can't chi be a standing wave expression of biological energy?

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Radiant Energy...Plasma. We know that Chi is heat related as one facet. See the Qi master heating water in my profile page. Just wanted to note that I recall watching some TV flick on modern day vampire cults. People who practice "spiritual vamping" rather than ancient bloodsucking. How boring! But, anyhow, they had a special form of quasi-thermal imagery. I wish I could remember or find it on the web, but most aura imaging is Kirlian. Maybe that's part of what this was, but it was closer to CCD IR. Something else. Doesn't look like digital imaging as best my mind recalls it. It was video and high resolution. No CCD pixels. Either that or very high resolution CCD they had. But, anyhow, they were examining the aura between vamp and victim at the skin level. Imagery showed plasma fingers going from vamp to victim and actually stealing their Chi. Wanted to note that in regard to the Radiant Matter/ Plasma thread and vortice topics here; That a lot of Chi does have a thermal component, electrical, magnetic, and also plasma basis but, as in Sir William Crookes - On Radiant Matter, plasma become more visible when encountering a barrier; A kind of bottle-necking and gimbal lock issue.


motion
If there's aether left, yes. Mass moves thru aether like sound moves thru a steel beam.. So there is a universal reference point, and relativity is flawed... So if the cat were to suddenly change speed or direction, the whorls in aether (like vibrating atoms on our steel beam) will want to continue tunneling thru the atoms in the cat in the same way, as aether is elastic and thus resistance to change. This makes what we call inertia. So, sudden stop would overstress the atomic bonds in the cat, and... Well, err. Poor kitty.

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My Rottie likes to eat Shroedinger kitties.


Inertia
Kinetic energy 'stored' as a space change in the aether in a sort of a dipole...
Kind of. Movement of mass thru aether sets up a particular resonance in both aether / object. We can visualize lots of little whirlpools on surface of slow moving river water.. If a leaf is pulled by a string with the water flow, it will move across quite smoothly. Dragged the other way, against the whorls set up by the current and there will be turbulence or more tension on the skin of the water where the leaf touches.

When mass moves thru aether it sets up whorls in the surrounding aether that can freely oscillate without resistance. Try and change the rate of spin of these aether vortices or spin direction however and the neighboring vortices supply resistance to this change, just like how little whirlpools on water skin support each other's movement..

And this is why a spinning top which sets up a stable rate of change of motion is so resistant to falling over.. It's rate of change of motion is causing a standing wave of 'inertia'.. The aether acts more 'solid'

Work out a way of artificially changing the direction or rate of aether spin, and you can impart immediate motion to an object, and cancel out the inertial resistance therein.

Why, you'd have built a 'ufo'...

Hint: early 'ufo' sightings the craft glowed. Much like high voltage corona discharge.. The early ones used to wobble on their own axis when motionless. They fixed that issue in the late 50's when they realised Tesla's flying engine was just a stabilizer, to set up some inertial resistance inside the craft.

There, I said it... Now I feel better ;-)

Magnetic fields and the aether
What does a current in a conductive medium, and a permanent magnet have in common? They both have a slightly warped - egg shaped - electronic cloud around the atom. Some materials (nickel iron cobalt) can have their atoms sitting side by side in such a way as to support this warping.

A magnetic field is a particular resonance of aether vortices which must closely match the shape / size of electrons.. So a magnetic field will affect any substance which has mobile electrons; usually these substances would make good conductors.

I have seen a video where a guy found that a board covered in neomagnets in same or different polarity arrangements, I can't remember, would fall slower (30%) than another board covered with same shape weight metal blocks..

The magnetic board was setting up a condition in the aether both internally AND externally, thus giving it a wider area of aetheric whorls that would resist being changed ie higher inertia.

So the aether flows thru these inertial vortices in the space of an object just like the previous analogy of little whorls on the slow moving river's surface. The whorls can move independently of the actual water flow. So there is the inertial whorls as well as longitudinal compression wave streams.

The streams partially interact with atomic lattice of mass and impart motion. We call this gravity.

Aether will stream from positive voltage potential to negative voltage potential, and in an electric circuit with magnetism, will also push electrons along a conductor. This electron movement we mistakenly think is current or electricity. But it is only an effect of the real energy stream in the aether.

We can use electron movement or voltage dipole changes to start movement in the aether, but once the aether moves, it is only guided by the resonance of the circuit conditions, not limited to it...

Aetheric streams do not need to be confined to conductors, they go thru all mass, and can also be directed to flow beside changes in density of dielectrics..

Dielectrics can also be polarized electrically and this is where the Electret comes in.. An Electret and a permanent magnet will only interact when there is movement between them, and then the 'magnetic effect' is at 90 degrees.. Se an Electret must have a squashed atom where magnet has a squished one...

Hope this all helps people understand the 'natural medium' a bit better, and also help see that all the 'forces' are just different effects of aetheric conditions.

Addendum
I forgot to say that magnetic repulsion / attraction is just like how two whirlpools spinning in opposite directions will want to move away from each other, and same direction of spin will want to combine.

Also, while little whorls in aether that move electrons want to move with the longitudinal compression waves, they don't have to.. At high enough frequency of abrupt compressions, the electron whorls remain unaffected, just like sound waves travelling thru the water in slow moving river will not affect the whorls on the skin of the water..

And that's all that my brain has come up with for now :-)

fluffy electrons

When aether streams travel along a conductor, with unidirectional dc pulses, the electrons don't have time to move. but just like a twig or branch stuck in the river bottom and sticking up above the water's surface doesn't move with the water's flow but does vibrate side to side because of the water's surface tension, so do electrons move side to side. This oscillations is what hertz mistakenly called electricity and it is what our instruments measure.

But also if you watch the surface of the water, we get whorls of opposite spin but roughly same size and they move downstream slower than the flowing water.

These whorls are same size of electrons but they won't attach to an atom, instead sitting in the space between atoms.

Their spinning sets up oscillations in atoms nearby, and our volt meters see it as charge, but it's not. That's why we get fluffy voltage. The electron-like whorls will however behave like electrons in a running circuit, and moving thru or sitting in a battery or capacitor or dielectric (Electret) and will condition atomic structure which rearranges itself to have the whorls as neighbors.

Once the atomic latticework is so arranged, it will more readily store these whorls, and some substances ( Electret / semiconductor ) will begin interacting with naturally occurring high frequency compression wave streams in the aether, and will self charge..

This ladies and gentlemen is what happens in static electricity, which sets up an effect just like magnetic field in surrounding aether space and this is how an electrophorus static field detector works..

...Sorry to clutter the thread, but they were relevant perspectives too good to leave buried in forum oblivion.
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:56 AM
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One other thing

Speaking of plasma.

...Somewhat tangential. Memory just came up while starting to read Aromaz's thread and encountering the Radiant issue again.

Some 15 years ago, I presented in confidential circles a paper titled Radio Imaging in the Aerodynamic Wake. The implications of which I shouldn't mention, but you might guess at. It was based on an observation I had in a year or two prior. The space shuttle was coming in for a landing along a rare flightpath which came in from the Pacific, crossed California, and headed to Texas. If you got up at 0430, you could catch it in the sky doing re-entry, so I woke up to watch. What I observed shocked me.

I scanned the night sky and spotted the shuttle moving like a satellite speck of light. Nothing impressive. Then, with re-entry, it grew brighter as expected. Typical 660 nanometer yellow and some other colors. But, what threw me off was that, as it darted overhead and left a plasma wake, I heard a strange George Jetson car brrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggrrrrrrrrrrrrrr sort of noise in doppler effect form. Not just that, but there was power surge in my street lights. The electrical lines hummed and buzzed. As the shuttle passed, I tracked the noise to my nearest lightpost and felt it. Yup, it was vibrating like a tuning fork. In fact, among the diagram of the Leedskalnin waves, near the bottom right, you will find a little triangular notation of EMP and a "TX" (transmission) note scribbled there. It was like that.

So think about that one. Plasma hundreds of miles away, miles up, and approaching fast. Radiant Matter. At a distance, the space shuttle projected its "Chi" and gave a little counter-gravitic action upon my light post. You could look at the lightpost like a 1/4 wave dipole and approximate the long wavelength there. The resonance given off was certainly in the audio and power/ telephone bands.

That plasma relates to anti-gravity/ counter-gravity is somewhat of a nobrainer. We see plasma rings floating upward in smokering fashion among nuclear bomb detonations. If you've ever made plasma balls in your microwave oven (popsickle sticks cooked until green plasma erupts and hovers upward to the ceiling)....again, it certainly at least seems "lighter than air". Probably not anti-gravity there so much as superhot air, and yet not expanding as air would. Some electromagnetic cohesion, certainly. We see plasma impacted by magnetics, certainly, and we know gravity is also countered by magnetics. Therefore, plasma and gravity go hand in hand, too. But, we can also look at electrical arc as plasma at times. Plasma is more whispy, smokey while electric current is more forceful a vortice. I look at it more like the tornado vortice of a projectile through air. Electricity and the electron being the bullet and vortice tip; Plasma being the whispy wake. Magnetics takes the same form. Electromagnetics. Gravity? Time? The other forces? I think so, too. All just vortice bullet/ particle and their wakes. When viewed from the frontal/ phasor angles...you see the wave nature.

One more thing to note: Anytime you accelerate matter (a gravity relation), you are always putting out electromagnetic radiation. Just waving your hands through the air is impacting air molecules -- causing their velocity to suddenly change -- and this emits very faint radio noise in the aerodynamic wake of your hand. Stronger noise still for the aircraft. Stronger noise especially for orbital re-entry objects which impact the air (inverse of plasma impacting a glass barrier, the matter impacts the barrier and plasma again forms as the far end of high temperature and vaporization). Radio noise so strong it blocks out all RF communications with the shuttle and tickles my lightpost. Golly gee, imagine if that were a nuke detonated in space and all the gamma ray shower that would result!

Okay, back to reading.

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I feel that capacitors work way better than using a signal generator. Maybe that the only thing you need to replace
maybe ...
im in proces of building an 15kv power suply ... maybe it will do the trick ...



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SL3, thanks for the food for thought!
Great stuff!
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More stuff.

Hi Jetijs,

No problem. Happy to add what I can. Your forum helps me, too.

See...I woke up thinking of you guys. That's too freaky!

Some sketches & notes on previous chatter and some new things:



*Please note that there is something wrong or stated inaccurate in the previous posts. I ran by it while re-reading, but couldn't remember what it was by the time I finished and was ready to edit. Sorry about any typos and things like that. Circumstance and then idiot doctors tried to kill me some years ago. Left the body a bit damaged. Blood sugar and pressure instability to the low side with fatigue tends to leave me a little brain foggy when tired. Annoying. Slower to think. Harder to get thoughts out. More prone to typos, math errors, forgetfulness, etc. Neuro and shrink evaluated at: "Generally sane. Nice, functional, charming dude. A pleasure to interview. Mental impacted a bit one axis by physical damages. Affects memory a bit. Has a harder time doing simple math in his head and some recall, but still functional. Clearly missing a screw somewhere but it's beyond us to define. Okay otherwise."

Aromaz! We tease, but, for me, it's OFFICIAL! My version of insanity is off the charts! Those allopathic hacks don't understand physicianry anyhow. When not listening to them, I live. When I listen to them, they have damaged and near killed me. Today, I get by on various herbs and teas, and who knows what that has done to my mind by now. I actually do start to get dizzy and fatigued with too much of this nerd stuff. That's what is most annoying. I've lost stamina for nerd stuff and actually heal better just working in the outdoors. People forget that mental activity takes more energy than any muscle in the body; Burns more calories than exorcise. Before banged up, I was always able to compartment well between nerdy professor or studmuffin. I could flick a mental switch and swap between roles like a fine actor. Actually could chew bubble gum, walk, fly, and do geeky things all at once. Today? No, I am a messy-haired mad scientist; A young and eager age 36 living in the body and mind of an old man. Office is a wreck at all times. If I get into reading too much of this stuff here and playing with you guys....I wouldn't eat, sleep, shave, shower, or brush my teeth for months on end.

So, anyhow, if I ever forget to respond to anyone or you find something that just doesn't compute...just keep that in mind. If you imagine someone hit you in the chest with a sledgehammer and with a good whack atop the head....it's like that. You're never the same. There's a statement I made that is really off in here, but I'll have to find it later. Was the use of a wrong word when I meant another, but I'll have to come back to it. Was just a little tangent that can run you off track and go uncaught or accepted as truth among the good stuff. The wrong word made the whole concept in error, as I recall. I'll find it later. Sorry. But, I'll make up for it with these sketches for you to play with if you like.
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Oh, one more thing.

In the bottom right of those sketches, I have found that you can just strip off the load to Tesla's radiant energy collector. The spark gap of the capacitor itself is a load. And you can replace the cap with some other load. Replace with a whole crystal radio circuit if you like. Any RLC circuit. You can use that to tune to more optimum bands of the radiant energy flux.

I think, when we strip off the loads, and just look at the Tesla collector, it's just a pretty simple shunting to ground with the cap as the barrier. So, when you put that brick wall there , you're going to get a backpressure buildup. A bottleneck. + and - begin to split giving us potential difference, as a function of that separation. A kind of asymmetry. So, then the mind wanders to, "What about an asymmetrical capacitor like these electrokinetic lifters in there? What would that do?" It would be sensible that the voltage would increase all the more due to that bottleneck in the flow. However, when we use a thin wire antenna and oodles of ground rods....we already, in effect, have made an asymmetric capacitor for the total system. More - on the earth side with less + in the thin wire. The earth is the electrokinetic lifter aluminum; The antenna the thin wire. So, to make a higher output Tesla collector, it should follow that we need to use larger + collectors higher in the sky (not just these antenna experiments) and we need to engage in more of a whopper ground rod assembly. Ground rods galore!

It's the same with my goat fence out here. High voltage pulsed from the charger run through the fence wire, but it doesn't mean diddley doo if those ground rods are not strong in contact with earth. I have three rods. One rod alone doesn't give my goats enough kick. With one rod or a weak ground, I can take my shoes off, stand barefoot in contact with soil, and touch my fence. Hah! Nothing much. I am invincible! Put three ground rods well wired up to that same voltage and...poof!....it near floors me. Wear rubber-soled shoes and again, I am more invincible. Wear my leather-soled cowboy boots and...poof!!!...I'm zapped hard again. Everything wild with Tesla's radiant energy, his wireless transmission versus RF propagation in the atmosphere....it's all in the ground rods and the asymmetric capacitor that system becomes. If you just take that pressure and pulse it through the load into the ground rod....with strong focus on the ground connection....you can pick up that power farther away and also through the ground rods.

I forget where I read it, but someone smart out there made a great analogy of Tesla's radio work to that of a basketball. A pump at one end of the "earth" ball and a gauge at the other end. When you pump the ball through your needle that is the ground rod, the gauge half an earth away will pick up that pressure wave. They're long waves. Like seismic waves. At the other end of the earth, they form a square -- like a bridge rectifier -- within the circle (Again, the Mason's circle squared). By pumping the power down into the ground rod rather than into freespace, you lose less energy to do the same radio signal work....or wireless power transmission scheme. Then, J.P.Morgan caught on and got pissed.

Anyhow, I will have to play with it more. This link has a fun setup while my own experiments and Radiant Energy Spectroscopy have been different in design. OS:Radiant Energy Antenna System - PESWiki

...Nice setup there, but, if we keep all that and just make the ground rods more while tuning in better to the lower frequencies...that should raise voltage. If we cut out these neon lights as spark gap pulsers and better control the pulsing via oscillator circuits (RLC's; Crystal radio setup)...that can dial it down better to optimum RE bands. In my own experiments here which pick up that Radiant Energy spectra, I don't have much of an antenna. It's not even high. All it is a microphone cable taken off my soundcard. Positive and negative lead. Negative never hooked up. That's it. Whether I add an aluminum foil collector plate or leave it as bare wire...the spectral amplitude changes a bit. When I touch the bare wire and use my body as a Tesla collector, the spectral shape is roughly the same (minus absorption bands) and the amplitude goes way up. Positive collector area and volume makes a big difference in voltage, certainly. However, if we hold all that the same and step up the grounding.....that should make an even greater difference in voltage. Do them both and the potential difference between + and - grows all the wider! And so, then it becomes a matter of either transforming high voltage/ low current to lower voltage/ higher current....or just enlarging the wire diameter and seeing what you can flow through. But, anytime we connect to earth through the ground rod -- no matter how large we ever make that collector plate -- it is always an asymmetric capacitor assembly in the basic, no load Tesla configuration. More negative than positive! Negative energy if you look at the current flow in the inverse direction, which makes more sense in regard to electron flow. We keep ignoring the ground connection and earth in favor of all these electronics tinkerings, but perhaps we should be just looking at the earth as the source of all that - and electron flow freely available? It's a vast reservoir of electrons to tap! Free electrons moving and waiting to be used among all that metallic ore that is in the mantle and core. We keep thinking in terms of Radiant Energy and taking in energy from the sky, but the "collector plate" is more like a smoke stack; Positive is the exhaust pipe for the earth's electron flow. We think of the atmosphere as the High pressure source able to leak into our Low pressure systems, but the earth is our high pressure electron source. It's like a water balloon waiting to give us a water jet of electron flow. All we need do is stick in a good needle without getting too wet or breaking the earth itself (as Tesla once proposed).


...Well, that's the best I understand it as of today. Still digesting so many things.
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Interesting stuff SL3.
I've always thought of magnetic attraction and repulsion as a rarefication or densification, respectively, of the aether. For example, a magnet will polarize a piece of steel which will cause the aether to rarefy between the two objects, which then creates a zone of low pressure. Since the magnet and steel are both polarized with respect to their physical relationship, as in direction, a pressure differential is created along that axis. This pressure is similar, if not the same as inertia in my mind.
I see inertia as nothing more than a polarization of the aether. The more energy and mass that are combined into one direction, the more the aether becomes polarized along with the mass. This polarization creates a low pressure in front of the object, and a high pressure in the rear. The object will then continue to move in that direction until external forces combine to depolarize the aether within the object.
This model makes the most sense to me anyway, and tends to hold up in the real world. Fun stuff to think about.



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I haven't gotten around to experimenting much with SSG's yet and am more interested in the greater over-unity devices. I do have an unbuilt radiant charger kit here that I want to explore sometime. Among the 10,000 RPM SSG's, this tricoiler was interesting.

YouTube - Tri Coiler Spin Up

What I read regarding the SSG's is that most experimenters don't exceed COP >1.0. However, others doing it right are said to achieve COP >11. Floyd Sweet's VTA was far more. Cold Fusion can achieve more. As for the higher COP SSG's, the better ones used some uncommon circuits you don't see most the experimenter crowd working with. Different transistors, etc. There is closer attention to spinning at higher RPM and using greater voltage in doing so. About 30 Volts and greater, as I recall. As for power pickup, increasing magnetic field flux (not just magnet strength and size) is an engineering issue. Tighter clearance between magnets and coils (1mm or less). Theoretically, as I understand it, voltage per coil geometry is given by formulas. Amps tend to be governed by wire size.

Why not just forget the SSG circuit difficulties and focus on the pulser? Instead of trying to drive an SSG to 10,000 RPM with batteries while extracting current (which would take considerable time), what's to stop you from taking a faster spinning air motor (like a die grinder)...or any electric motor...and just using that to spin your pulser? Then, you can just focus on the pulser. Same story. Strong magnets; Strong field; Tight flux; Good coils; Highest voltage possible; Wire gauge enlargened to allow current flow under a standard permanent magnet alternator model. If you can crank out enough wattage from a PMA more so than you use to turn it, you can use any kind of motor. But, since you're just trying to pulse your airplane there, you don't need over-unity focus. By moving away from the SSG circuit and complexities, you don't have to be restricted to its components.

Just a thought in repayment for your previous that were helpful to me.

That i great idea SL3, because the only problems when i swing the motor by hand. It will run for a while than stop completely due the oscillation, but if integrate electric motor like a Van De Generator concept that the same power source which power the UFO of ralph ring http://www.projectcamelot.org/design.gif

Always i did some research on Bedini motor and electric motor to drive it
Google Image Result for http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/JohnBedini/bk/page2/bedmot2.jpg

I found someone already made the concept work great, like Muller generator
HAHA HA that funny i remember somewhere on the internet where Stan deyo was on the radio talk about the source energy to power a craft would a Over-unity device and give example like Bill Muller generator, and
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Hi Ted,

Wow! That's a way of looking at it that I need to chew on for awhile. Remember, I am only now learning that there is an aether! I am like a caveman who was frozen in Time for a long time and only starting to thaw out while looking at the world as it really is.

RunningRage -- Glad that might help you. Thank you for the generator information. Never heard of it, but am looking into it. My own electrical power production designs are continually under revision and upgrade. I am at the moment surveying what's out there to see if there is anything better than how I've been doing things. Little things to learn from. Little design integrations to throw in. Other peripheral things to experiment on and modify.

I'll post in here later some additional illustrated notes on how I think Leedskalnin was splitting those waves in his generator. Text doesn't reallly show it too well. We must get to building my space ship for the party on Mars! Got ample beer. Got hot chicks waiting for us out there! All we need is liftoff!

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Source citation.

Hi guys. This is separate from that error that I'm hunting for in the previous posts.

I just want to make a note on the analogy made regarding Tesla's work where I described the world like a high pressure zone. Imagine a container with a hole and an interior Low that we continually draw from. This thought and a couple images I stole from Oliver Nichelson. tesla.nichelson - Tesla's Fuelless Generator and Wireless Power Transmission by Oliver Nichelson. His website has some very good articles of particular interest to all of you. Further, you may enjoy reading of Tesla's pancake coils and looking at their measured voltage difference over conventional coils!



...The submarine and over-unity bit...that's mine! But, not the High/ Low pressure and hole poked in a container thing. Thanks Oliver!
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Three more reference links

Boyd Bushman Coil
Boyd Bushman Interview Part 1
Boyd Bushman Interview Part 2
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Bah!! I look and I look, and I cannot find the error. I guess that means I'm perfect!

Oh, it was some stupid conceptual statement on magnetism as I recall. Just off. Easy to read right over until you get experimenting on it. Well, if you go down a wrong turn with one sentence in there somewhere and find yourself beating your head on a wall ....I did warn you at least! Sorry, but I can't stand to read my own writing much anymore. Too long-winded. Too gravitationally orgasmic to meet you dudes as a fellow nutjob.
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Back EMF Monopole Notes

This is about as I have been viewing things to date. Could be off..



Similiar to Broli's post on the other thread, Magnetic Monopoles Arise When Magnets Repel Each Other...



In the top half of my notes, I consider the typical solenoid coil with current in one direction. Consider its field and the vortice that is normal. I consider the B (magnetic) vector.

With a change in EMF and current pumped through, we get EMF which is also reverse current. And so, I theorize that there must also exist a reverse field, flux, and vortice that we normally do not examine. That this would become the opposite of normal shape and polarity. At the Zero Point, North/ South poles would reverse. Here is where energy is drawn through the vacuum in typical back EMF coils.

So, to the right of the page, I envision what the reversing fields and vortices might look like. I think you would have the conventional field superimposed with the back EMF field. The conventional B vector superimposed with the back EMF B vector. Here, North magnetic face to North magnetic face. Standard repulsion configuration. And so, there is a bulging of the field in perpendicular, cross product fashion. Instead of electromagnetic radiation being E X B, we now have B X G...perhaps. Electromagnetic radiation transformed to magnetogravitic radiation. Electromagnetic waves to magnetogravitic waves. As there is a positive and negative view to electrical current, we know there is a positive and negative view to magnetism, and so also there should be a positive and negative view to gravity. However, at the Zero Point, all these should be in monopole form due to their repulsion stacking or vortice connections.

I see the 2 magnetic monopoles and waves of Leedskalnin. I see probably 2 gravitational monopoles and waves. And also the electric current monopoles and waves. All intersected at zero. It is magnetic charge; Also gravitic charge; and seems to be still symmetrical charge. But, if you increase electric power, you'll have heating of the coils coinciding magnetic force. Some energy being lost to heat and hysteresis, the magnetic forces become asymmetric, and should result in asymmetric charge of the whole system....resulting in gravitational asymmetry or Lift/ Propulsion/ Acceleration. Maybe?!!! Bah!! I dunno. I just pulled it out of my kazoo tonight.

On the bottom half is a quickie sketch of what I've been thinking about in regard to Leedskalnin's magnetic current radio station. Carrier Wave, Compass Wave, Bell Wave. Magnetic current of the Earth somehow pumped through his generator. Steel chain as the magnetic current conductors. Magnetic pickups. Maybe something to do with the water in the generator at the center of the perfect, pyramid inductor setup of his geometry. Receiver tripod. Chain conductor again to his tree branch. Maybe some sort of coil wrap around each stone. Maybe just dumping magnetized water atop the coil and away the stones go...



But, I dunno. Something seems fishy and off to that water speculation. I'm wondering if he used it as a conductor/ electrolyte between any coil wrap of the stone. Not sure. Something feels amiss. Everything else feels right. The issue of intersecting waves and their shape -- along with their zero points -- at least feels good.

If you look at Ed's stones and carvings, they don't appear to have chisel marks. There do appear to be water or acid-like burns, as best I can tell from photos. Water we know is magnetic and will tend to hold a magnetic charge. I'm wondering if he imprinted the water with his magnetic waves, and so, when in contact with the other waves, it would tend to lead to a Hutchison Effect lifting or fusing and breakdown of material. Maybe something like that. I dunno. Still happily stumped by Ed.
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Just a little modeling data

FLUX DENSITY
1,000,000 mu (Superpermalloy)
10,000 turns per coil
10 amp, 30 gauge (very near fusing current)
Round core

6,580 Gauss zero point (A relative vacuum)
27,000 Gauss (green)
20,000 Gauss (baby blue)
10,000 Gauss (blue)

Interestingly enough, the mathematics for this model shows 12 pounds of magnetic force in the Y (upward) direction while force in the horizontal is 235 lbs. But, when you lock that energy down through rigidity of the toroid, it will translate more toward the open Y vector (>12 lbs lift). This is best done at optimum pulsed frequencies, however.

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Finding Jesus in Magnetism & Levitation!

Repent, repent, and be saved you heretics!


The Hospitaller Cross is oddly found in toroids!
Eight (sideways as the symbol for Infinity) is also a mathematical basis of the universe. Eights in Octonian mathematics. Eights in String Theory. Eights are a foundaitonal thing. Again, why all design geometry works best, most efficient, and in harmony with nature when we specify our dimensions and engineering traits in harmonic fashion.


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Stan Deyo's Cake Thing

My humble contribution to this conversation is the following.

I made a toriod, 32 wraps or so on ferrite.
I also made a little kit that helps me measure
inductance. Yup the toroid is an inductor. Not mystery.
Stan Deyo wants not toroids on the cake, but
toroids with an air gap -- so that they become toroidal
horse-shoe magnets.
I made one of those too and tried to measure its inductance.
Zip -- NADA -- nothing. My meter failed to measure it.
Next experiment. Put the toroid over a compass and just
pulse it with a 9v battery. You can make compass spin if you
time it right... but its not dramatic.
Now place your horse-shoe torroid, with air gap in coil,
over compass. Pulse it with 9v battery ... WOW ... dramatic
spin of compass.
So yes, horse-shoe is important here. A full on closed-torroid
only moves the compass slightly due to imperfections in the
winding were the b-field is slightly strong in one place than
the other ... whereas a horse-shoe will definitely move the compass
ala electro-magnetc.

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Old 07-11-2009, 06:26 AM
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I saw Deyo's vids a few months back and was highly impressed.

The floating coke drop demonstration was quite impressive in my eyes.

One thing I think we should remember here, as he talked about the coke experiment he said the drop appeared at resonance.

I am currently working on Stan Meyers work, and I know that in his work, as well as Tesla's and others, resonance was a key factor for it allows the greatest energy flow with the least opposing resistance.

Also keep in mind, as I have learned in Stan Meyers work, His VIC is a dual L circuit charging the cap at opposite pulse times of 50% duty cycle, so the end result is that the water molecule never has a relaxation period, this achieves the highest efficiency.

Perhaps this principle is also used in Stan Deyo's saucer-inductor-plate. After all, if the magnetic fields are what creates the counter gravity, a constantly produced magnetic field would be much more powerful than a pulsed magnetic field!


Aromaz & SL3, you two guys have the type of intelligence I hope to have some day. Can you tell me how you have learned all you know? Books, college, etc?

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Saw Stan Deyo's video too. Very good stuff.
One thing that bothers me is that Mr. Deyo seems to have
great anti-gravity knowledge, but not very much
knowledge about how to create these over-unity energy machines.
You would think that for any of his craft to work, they would
need a pretty esoteric power system ... and so why
isn't Stan more forth coming with how to make power?
You would think that the #1 emergency preparedness HINT
that Stan could provide all of us would have to do with power -- so
important for fresh water, food production, health, etc.
Making something levitate on a kitchen table would be fun
but making 30Kwatts for my own personal home needs would
be BRILLIANT!
I would hope that Stan Deyo would want to see all of us
get off the single-point-of-failure GRID system and become
more self sufficient so that we can protect ourselves from those
who would hoax an alien invasion for political gain.
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Im building a disc like shown in the video. Have a few more "horse-shoe" coils to make before I can start experiment with it with diffrent DC signal. the problem I see as the bigest is what should be the signal strength, like Volts and Amps.
Ill see if I can upload a picture later when its ready to be experimented with.
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Im building a disc like shown in the video. Have a few more "horse-shoe" coils to make before I can start experiment with it with diffrent DC signal. the problem I see as the bigest is what should be the signal strength, like Volts and Amps.
Ill see if I can upload a picture later when its ready to be experimented with.
I think your attitude should be one of attempting to see an effect only.
Once something is observable, then you can roll up your sleeves and study what is going on .. and attempt to refine your design to optimize what is occurring.
If it bounces off the table just a bit -- like Boyd Bushman's coil
YouTube - UFO-Electromagnetic Levitation Demonstration
that would be cool.

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HEY EVERYONE!!!

I recently found a patent application that might possibly explain quite a few things about anti (counter) gravity.

Bobbin electromagnetic field ... - Google Patent Search

In the patent application the anti gravity is explained quite well and equations are given as well as a few drawings. The applicat explained the device as follows:

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION:

"The idea from this invention comes from experiments I have done using thin transformer laminations wound in intervals with bobbins of wire connected to a frequency generator. Pulsing the bobbins elelctrically creates a slow traveling magnetic wave along the surface of the lamination. The velocity of the wave, as shown by hammond in the reference paper, is the square root of the frequency divided by the conductivity and permeability of the material. From Einstein's General Theory Of Relativity, this type of wave around the circumference creates a spacetime curvature in the vertical direction that looks like a tiled plate. The magnetic field traveling around the circumference has to follow this curvature. This creates a magnetic gradient in the Z
direction which together with the magnetic moment developed by the solenoid produces lift on the vehicle."

From the wave velocity equation explained above, I realized that in Deyo's video he said (the 30Ft craft) coils core was made of Mu-metal which has a very high inductance. And per the equation explained above the higher the inductance and the higher the conductivity the slower the wave velocity is. I also noticed on some youtube vids people explained that the rodin coils produced the greatest effects at low frequencies around 1-6Hz if I remember right....???


I'm just delving into counter (anti) gravity, but am extermly interested and this along with Deyo's vids seem like a good place to start.


I find it interesting that the patent application refers the device as a MAGNETIC VORTEX GENERATOR!

Another interesting sentence from the application: "The lift force on the vehicle is equal to a magnetic moment times the magnetic field gradient"

Everyone check it out and share your ideas/thoughts?

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Magnetic Vortex Wormhole Generator Pattent App.

I found an interesting pattent application as well.

Magnetic vortex wormhole generator - Google Patent Search

This one is straight out of star-gate.
The coil descriptions are interesting.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:03 AM
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Tesla and Weather Modification

I found this interesting radio program tonight:

YouTube - Ex Government Employee talks about CHEMTRAILS 1 of 5

Tesla Scalar technology was mentioned quite a bit
during this 5 part program.

This is additional conformation about some things
that Stan Deyo's has told us re: Scalar & Tesla.

WARNING: The program may be disinfo.

Chemtrails may in fact be part of the Solar Radiation Management project
(an idea proposed by Edward Teller long ago):
Solar radiation management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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You are likely all more aware of this than I am, but Marko Rodin is intending to investigate application of his Rodin Coil as a thruster for space travel.
Strong Magnetic vortex action through its center seems well established.

It seems unlikely to me that the basic design now tested by various people will be sufficient for take-off just by pulsing it with lots of power, but the cris-cross winding of his coils following numerical geometry might have some role in cancelling out the aether inertia as referenced above.

Small eureka-moment or just a silly brainfart :
What if not the electrical power, but MASS should be spiraling the toroid, rather than the simple high-speed spin of superliquid inside a toroid as proposed so often elsewhere? Liquid in counter-wound tubes together making of a toroid would be flowing spirally, loosely based on Rodin's theories meaning with minimal resistance, electrically.
I'll leave to you which, if any, odd effects such a device could display.
Also, I just got the idea : what if mass and electrical current would flow against each other, either through the same tube, or adjacent?
So much reading to do before I can event theorize on the silly setups racing through my mind... Can imagine Tesla went mad, as he actually knew what he was thinking.
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Smile High Efficiency counter-gravity

Hi guys,

Been away for awhile busy on energy stuff and other. Just some censored notes for you from a letter to a friend.

I'll be posting more fun things to YouTube - SnowLabsRatedX's Channel and Snow Labs - Research & Development, Online Portfolio (under construction). Lotsa fun videos there. Research references to be posted at Snow Labs - Research & Development, Online Portfolio. Working on a fun video / slide show introduction to levitation concepts. In the meantime, you might enjoy cruising some of my playlists there to see if there are some vids you haven't seen.

Stan

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SNOW'S LAW -- This is actually an oversimplification but the Poynting Vector model for the quanta should be revised from E X B to E X B X G! Not just that but E X B X G X S X T X ?...X to Infinity! S = Space; T = Time. ?1, ?2, etc. to infinity = remaining unknown fundamental forces. In the Right Hand Rule of electromagnetics, you're probably well familiar with E X B in coils, right? At 90 degrees planar is the Gravitic (G). Simple as that. There are more complex forms you can set up in Octonians, but I like it simple. For starters, [the] Hutchison Effect would have been much more efficient [with] aimed [---] coils at each other rather than just straight up. Maybe [---] did that? I dunno. [-----] did some pretty wild things there, but not as wild had [-----] been slamming together magnetic forces more efficiently.

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Acoustic Levitation (like [Hutchison] demonstrated with [his] piezos) also moves and shakes things along the Gravitic plane.

Here's the fun part I really wanted to share with you all (a report of wild levitation of great mass on relatively little wattage, though Leedskalnin was likely more efficient than this since he used almost no electricity and not the wattage of 100 monks):

I have a quack physician friend who told me an awesome story the other day because he knows of my interests in flying saucers and all that. In the 1960's, he was touring Tibet. One day, he was driving up a narrow mountain road when he felt this rumble like many trucks coming downhill, so he pulled over. Nothing. So he got out and walked around the bend to see what was up. Nothing. Puzzling. He followed the noise to the cliffside and gazed down upon a horseshoe formation of about 100 monks. In the center, they had granite stones of about 1 cubic meter. One set of monks were chanting a deep, low tone like "OM" continuously, no pausing, all from circular breathing. The other set (about half) were blowing horns; Also a deep, low, long-wave, continuous tone. The stone started to move. It levitated as the horn pitch went to higher frequency. The monks then went on to move the stone across a chasm by directing the horns. Then, as they lowered the frequency, the stone dropped. And they proceeded to move a total of six stones in less than an hour like that! Such defiance of gravity by monks is recorded in historical literature, and even on-line. Explorer accounts of watching monks bang a gong and levitate a stone on the side of a mountain among ceremonies, etc. But, there are no reports in public on what I just mentioned, though [---------].

Anyhow, thought I'd share that with you. If you think about it, the monks lifted a lot more weight, did more total work against gravity than [John Hutchison],and the human Wattage applied was probably much less than what [-----] were juicing [---------] coils with.

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* Sorry guys for the censorship. Also, when things are censored like that, it is easy to read into things, speculate, or whatever. Don't bother. It'll only take you in confusing directions. Just enjoy what I passed. Any other scrutiny and speculation will waste your time, but you may have some fun playing with those interfering frequencies. All you really need to have fun is one frequency generator (two and more if you want to shift phases and do stuff other than watch weight reduce), a couple transistors, DC power supply, and piezos or solenoid coils (for the magnetic stuff).

Overlaps with the nazi bell saucer tech and all that.

I also did 4 pages of math and physics in solution of the Boyd Bushman celt recently. Will post later. Relates to shape asymmetry of the celt and also shape asymmetry in eggs. Another issue you may want to play with there is how eggs and pine cones directly convert gravity to electricity! Following electron path in current loop formation along the spinning celt, you can see it as a coil. Then, when spinning or activating that coil in the other direction against the coil developed by gravity...you have the coil to coil, magnetic force to force creation of the zero point that you all know well from the various free energy systems. Simple as that to the mysterious celt, in my view. Now, if that torque applied resists gravity due to charge asymmetry, then all you need do is step up the charge asymmetry and torque....and away we go! Another means of levitation!



Did also several pages on the mathematical physics behind dowsing rods. Was my first time playing with them and seeing their reality. I observed a nose down (forward C.G.) condition with no water beneath; Aft C.G. and lifting of rod "nose" when over water (some sort of shielding effect that I first considered as water being a gravitational shield). As for why they rotate inward? Seems related mutual attraction / inductance or perhaps the nature of waves around them and seeking the null point. I later tested the gravity shielding of water by placing a brass weight on a scale and putting a water bowl beneath. Results? Nothing. Tried with other weight. Nothing. Sort of trashed my water-gravity shield there, but maybe not. Needs more work. Could be magnetic, but then we see non-magnetic dowser rods used -- plastic / wood. Therefore, either a diagmagnetism shield is the water or it is shielding something else that is pulling upon the centroid of the rods. Could be an issue of those rod lengths as antennae, too. I believe the answer also dwells somewhat in Leedskalnin's lessons on hanging bars in the magnetic field. Gotta review that some.

Anyhow....only thing I can say with certainty is that the rods go parallel and they cross certainly due to some form of pull and water shielded pull of the Earth upon the centroid of mass to each rod. Understanding that mystery better and its relation to water (a place of Casimir Effect shunt of energy from the Quantum Vacuum and its translation in many wave planes beyond our mere 4D world) may tell us then how to use the rods for propulsion of their centroid away from the Earth's!

* Related note: Hysteresis Effect in satellites. Long ago, I did about 4 blackboards full of math chasing a deep understanding of what was going on in Hysteresis Effect. Like the AMSAT satellite, we were using spinning iron rods and needed to model that better. How thick should they be? How long? How many? Too many or too little and not the right dimensions can mess up your satellite. So, I spent a lot of time thinking about the magnetic field of the Earth and iron rods rotating within that field which produces voltage and temperature increase. It's the core of what goes on in electric motors, too. Anyhow, Hysteresis is something that was likely going on in the Leedskalnin levitation. Probably with the monks, too. Certainly to faint degree with these soft steel coat hangar/ dowsing rods in the Earth's B field.
Water as a magnetic shield makes much more sense, since we know water is magnetic, but -- because other non-metallic rods are used -- I think further investigation will lead to interesting things. Solving great mysteries always does!

See you later!
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