Guys, he claims it built and working.

"Hi all, I am pleased to announce my patent pending "LENZLESS
GENERATOR" It may be the answer to our search for
overunity/free-energy. I have built and tested 3 versions. I have more
info and a video on my website,,, OVERUNITYBUILDER-HOME PAGE, click on
the image to go to the page with all the info. I will be attempting to
develop and market it myself. However, you can help by making your own
and sharing on you tube or my website, or any other website.
Independent verification by others is the best help for now. Also
please spread the word so that this device does not get stopped before
it gets going. Thanks Dan Quale"

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Hi

This is similar to this design: John W Ecklin -- Stationary armature generator -- US Patent 3879633, US Patent 4567407, 12 articles

A typical house requires about 2KW of electricity. It would be great to design a generator with these specs in mind.
We could standardize this design to make the generator replicatable easily by everyone.

Can a normal 5W SSG drive this Generator?

Elias

A friend of mine wanted to build this, I don't know what happened with his project. I think that the best material for those inductor plates could be MUmetal, but it is expensive. As I understand, the bottom line here is that it requires much less work to move the iron plates between magnets and coils, than to move the magnets or coils themselves.

@Ash, I contacted the guy a few days ago when he first posted on the Hydroxy group and suggested he work with you and Panacea... Or at least publish everything on here or the O-U site and let people replicate it. He replied the next day that he would rather get "as close" to Open Source as he can without actually going that way. So he appears willing to collaborate to some degree. I pointed out that he can:

1) Get "free R&D" from the replicators who could possible improve on the design, and can also...

2) Help provide proof for his claims with working replications, maybe even with meaningful independent testing. While...

3) Still protecting his rights, and

4) Providing him the "security of numbers".

...It would seem to be a "no brainer" imo

And i wished him well, and hoped that if he went it alone he would be the FIRST out of hundreds to succeed into the mainstream that way (...stealing your thunder there on those points, m8... Sry, i hope you don't mind hehehe)... And darn good point they are!!

Am i becoming a loudmouth busybody? Certainly, lol. But i learned in my political activism "career" that this is the way to get things done in terms of affecting opinion... Maybe not the "best" way but one that is highly effective (...if not also highly irritating sometimes, hehehe). Call it "constructive egomania" if you like

Jib

Hi Steve, if this guy is going to open source his design he has the red carpet form us. i wondered who told him, we are gonna have to get you on the pay roll

Okay ill ask him what he needs and get the design out here. Thanks Steve

Hi Ash,

I saw that as it came up the other day in a message at the waterfuel1978 forum, and took a quick look. Not much there in the way of "plans," and my guess is that those large ring magnets would be very expensive. Although it may do what he claims, I don't see it as a best design for a generator, and the cost factor would put it out of budget for many people. It may, in fact, be worth further investigation, but I didn't feel it was worth the effort. Just my take on it, for what that's worth, and of course I may be wrong, but it just didn't ring any bells for me. I though the inventor's name was interesting, as it reminded me of Dan Quayle.

Rick

I feel of similar opinion Rickoff. My first reaction was also "bet those big ring magnets are expensive/rare/hardtocomeby. I like the principle of it, its thinking outside the square. I think the inductors limit the air gap as well, meaning the coils are further away. Maybe thats the point though. Accept nothing and challenge everything, ill give him points for that


Good luck to him, and others like him who push the boundaries and believe in their vision.

Rick

I currently have two ring magnets almost like that shown and they are not so expensive. I bought each of them around 5-6$ as I remember, but I still doubt it to be able to generate good amount of power because the demonstration video was not so convincing. Peter Lindemann also pointed out sometime ago that the Brown-Ecklin generator was a failure as I recall which is so similar to this design, but maybe I'm wrong. I may try it some time later as I have most of the components.

Elias

I recalled this permanent magnet design which does seem to "work":
The Dual Piston Device
Look at the video at the end of the page.

This also has used iron blockers to switch the magnetic field on and off, somehow to make it turn.

The motor seems to go over-unity, why not the generator?

Actually not very expensive you can get some that are about 7 3/4 inches in diameter for about 20 bucks.
200mm OD x 110mm ID x 20mm thick, Grade C8, Ceramic Ring Magnet - Applied Magnets

That's interesting, Vzon. Thanks. Perhaps I'm just not that interested in the design because I believe that we are going to have a good water fueled engine up and running very soon, and when we do I plan on using a 4 cycle water-cooled engine (idling at about 1,000 rpm) to both drive a 5 to 10 kw generator and pump the hot coolant through the radiators in my baseboard heating system this winter. Free power and heat! What could be better? And when I'm sleeping, and hardly using any of that generator power, I can send power back to the grid and get a check from the power company each month intead of sending them one. Sound good to you?

Elias - Yes that's a good design, and so simple too. You have strong magnetic attraction, until the thin tin blade comes in between the magnets, thus effectively shielding the magnets while the gearing and other rotational parts continue and pull the magnets apart. I like that. Thanks.

Rickoff