ThereMart, I believe that Imhotep said that you want the ignition coil to "NOT" have a resistor. The old 1967 coil that he recomended does not have one and the coil I got doesn't have one. Good luck on your replication. It is fun.

Stephen

kingman is correct the balast resistor is not needed , and preferably you want a coil without the built in resistor .it might run with the built in balast resistor but with different results

I brought this circuit to the right forum!! I am so proud with how you guys are evolving this circuit. Im floored at the innovations. I had worked on so many circuits simotaniously that I did not have a chance to grow this circuit as quickly as having multiple researchers working on it. Peter Lindemann
multiple times tried to get me to think of this circuit in a much different way than mere coil collapse. As you are finding he was aboslutely right!! Excellent work. And i cant wait to start implementing some of your changes. EXCELLENT WORK!!

I was going to try a dual coil setup bouncing it between the 2 positives. That is something that could be tried! I had to buy 2 coils because Peter made me test this with multiple setups to make sure it was not a fluke, so I had to buy multiple relays, coils,bulbs to be able to run 2 or 3 setups and we worked with it for 2 or 3 months before release to get the basic circuit down. But the work that you guys have done to it so far just is fantastic

It once again proves why the internet is the way for open source research collaboration. Bringing so many people together with so much vast knowledge in different areas! And again I cant wait to try some of the other setups you guys have come up with.

How could you use 2 coils and bounce it like you said?

Can you not connect them, say in parallel, so we're not increasing the voltage but increasing the draw to the bulb?

sorry for my lack of electrical experience.. I have all the theory in my head but not enough hands on stuff

What I was going to try was hooked the positive and negative of the primary's of the coil together so i would have one negative and one positive and run it off one relay and run bulb the bulb between the two towers, that might or might not work, I am not sure it was just something that was running through my mind while i was developing one of my other circuits, I am also enhancing Aarons water spark plug circuit, as well as the very simple radiant charger. As well as tutorials for the bifilar windings for the fans. As well as abut half dozen other ideas i have.

You guys doing this work is sooo huge of a help. I can never thank you guys enough!

This is an idea that i was toying around with, it is untested and might not work at all, but this is the way i would start to do if i was going to try and run them in series. Again this circuit is untried and untested. And might not work at all.



Another way you can try is just to build 2 circuits and parallel the primary's feed the two between the 2 towers which also might not work. Let us know how your results are.

I did try running 2 bulbs parallel with one circuit and when i screwed in the second bulb the first bulb went out, you guys ran them in series with much success!! Very well done!!

thank you for your comment imhotep i love working on this stuff,
only thing that is im going on holiday tomorrow,i wish i could stay at home and let the family go!!!!
But she would Kill me.
Waterhouse when i get back can i pick your brain of the about where you got the stuff (relay.ect)
Got another bloke at work in to this stuff,I worked with him yesterday morning and dumped all i new about free energy, ZPE, tesla, bedini,adams motor,imhotep and now his world has been conpletely different than 48 hours ago. Another joins the workforce

I just tried to light up four light bulbs in parallel. To do this I used my adjustable voltage/current power supply and pulsed the coil with a relay that was triggered with a function generator. I set the power supply at the max voltage but so that the current is limited to about 300mA. I used two 24w spiral type bulbs, one 15w cylindric tube and a 8w cylindric bulb. I connected them in series and attached the HV + on the one side of the string, I could easily connect the negative terminal between each of the bulbs. When I pulsed only one bulb, the light intensity was moderate, but when I pulsed all four bulbs in series, the light intensity was only slightly less at the same current draw. I think that I could easily light up three or four more bulbs in series, but I just have these four
I also tried my cheap high current solid state relay to pulse the bulbs, but it can not handle more than 10Hz.
Will try Imhotep's dual coil setup tomorrow. I still think that we need more voltage on the secondary to get the bulbs to full brightness.
Thanks

excellent work, please remember i have not tested the dual coil setup, so it might not work and it might destroy parts im not sure. In theory it should work though and hit it with twice the wave. But its worth a go
thank you all again for your contributions and research. Shiva is collecting all the youtube links of the replications and placing them in the FAQ so they are in a easily found area

Imhotep,

This is a GREAT idea. But I agree with you, this little schematic you show WON"T work. The reason is that the polarity of the two coils is the same. You need to turn one of the coils around. So, for instance, if you take the top coil and connect the POSITIVE of the battery to the (-) connection of the ignition coil, and then connect the (+) connection back to the (+) connection of the bottom coil, THEN the polarities of the HV sections will be opposite, and the voltage across the CFL will be double!

This ought to work great!

Peter

Nice work Bodkins.

Looks like he was using a 555 timer instead of a relay.

Sure would like to get the info to replicate that circuit.

Carl

Bodkins said here
Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video
he was using this circuit
555 Noise-Maker Kit > Maplin
which the specs, parts list, schematic and layout are all online here
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Media/PDFs/N41FL.pdf

thank you for the correction Peter i drew this in a hurry this afternoon when shiva approached me with the question . again THANK YOU!!!!!!!! for ALL your work..

Heres the updated schematic with Peter's corrections.



Peter,
Do you think it would be too much of a stretch to assume we could charge a second battery off the top coil? Just wondering what your thoughts would be on that.

found this for those interested in solid state.

Thanks for this and thanks for the updated Schematic.. I'm off to the scrap yard tomorrow. I have another relay setup..

I'm going to go down the 555 timer route but only after I have tried dual radiant oscillation

p.s. (I'll stick with this forum, as it seems you're all friendlier than the ou forum )

I tried using the neo magnet trick on the coil and it really works. I ended up running the oscillator on a small 2 watt solar panel . YouTube - 2 watt solar panel-- Imhotep Radiant Oscillator . I am also going out of town for a few days so when I get back Imhotep's Oscillator should be on the shelf at the local store. Gosh this is moving fast. Good luck everyone. The dual coil idea should solve the brightness problem. Cheers --- Lidmotor

I don't supposed anyone has measured the inductance of the Radio Shack relay coil?

wow only 80ma. I think you took it the lowest milliamp thus far. The magnet addition is a great idea i think with the dual coil addition and the neo we might be able to get it to the low amperage we want and the brightness we are looking for. the additional magnet reminds me of the hendershot coil, whereas he took a buzzer, which is similar to the relay, and positioned a magnet until he got it in oscillation with a unique coil and capacitor combination using a basket weave coil and two vertical output transformers and various other components. But it stayed in oscillation and provided pretty high wattage of output and had no power source at all. I dont think anyone has been able to replicate it.

But the magnet addition is very interesting and i will be trying it on my setup.

I also came to energetics forum for one reason, the scientist and experientors and inventors in this forum actually build things. nuff said

Imhotep,

Yes, that is the circuit that should be interesting to test. I recommend that the two ignition coils be identical for these tests, as you want the rise-times of the two HV impulses to reach the CFL at the same time.

As for possibly recovering power from the secondary to charge another batter, my guess would be that this will not work very well. The impedance mismatch from the HV to the battery would be considerable, so the efficient transference of energy between the two would be low.

A Special Congratulations to everyone who is experimenting in this thread and posting films on YouTube. This is exactly what Imhotep, Shiva and I had hoped would happen!!

Peter

sat i will replicate and report P .L.

just want to ad one thing before i go on holiday.

idea i have had for sometime and have some drawing on it but no build.

its base on the 555 timer with a relay that can pulse at high rate. The trick is using the negative of the pulse to reverse the battery setup. So charge battery will become the power,so on. i think a cap to store the energy is needed.

on the lines of a tesla switch.

good lucky to all

cheers imotep, thanks for all your hard work .giving us not so learnrd beings a simpler ,cheeper device to experiment with. takes a great mind to explain something complicated in laymens terms. with this mindset you can truly help mankind,thought for the nite, as you are using a h.t. lead coming out of the coil ,would a kiker type h.t. lead arrangement help current or possibly introduce something new,

please explain what you mean by kiker type high tension lead .i have used many types of wires off the high voltage lead tower from thin wires(clip leads) to the original plug wires (plug wires have resistance and capacitance) with varied results.
there is also a patent on using coax wire off car coils that is suppose to raise the hv much higher

ok i just found what you mean by kiker good idea !

I tried the schematic you posted but it made no difference

I then tried a few different ways and found the following to double the brightness in the following schematic:

IMG_0928.jpg

I tried it with just one relay working both coils but it didn't seem to improve the brightness.

I then tried 2 relays and the brightness doubled.

The amps pulled at this USABLE brightness was around 1.5amps.. What needs to be tried now is about 10 bulbs in series to see if we lose any brightness. If we don't then this is ideal!! Just think running 10 bulbs on 18watt, nice!!

I still think this can be improved with a 555 timer.. and also because the coils are pulsed with dc they produce pulsed HV i think, well if this is the case could we time it so one coil pulsed then the other.. so there is a constant HV to the bulbs.

I used completely different coils for the test so don't rule out the other schematic until Imhotep has tested with his identical coils.

i have replicated the dual coil setup ,it did work as peter has instructed to wire it . the results were the same it charges the second battery. it however is not as brilliant on the light output, which is surprising to me . the original circuit is the winner ,it has the brightest output and the lowest current draw .

also the original relays i used had the lowest current draw of 500 to 700 ma.but the relay that peter picked has the brightest light output.
i will try the solar addition today .florida has some bigtime solar output today.
i also will try series multiple bulbs over the next couple of days and see my results,as well as changing the duty cycle of the relay with the magnet addition and will report my results

keep up the great work

wow as i was writing my post you answered some important questions and i had not seen your post yet , as aaron would say what synchronicity ! you just proved that the relays are inportant to the balance of the light output.
someone in ou forum said to keep the relays and use the 555 and the 3055 to drive the relay ,that is a possibility. thanks for your input

excellent work i will be trying this later today!!

now put the second diode and charge two batteries yay!!

pulsing one than the other would be ideal . the circuit would get alittle more complicated but i believe it is doable then the bulb would be getting constant pulses. excellent suggestion!! i will get on it.

got a video for you lot.
YouTube - Bodkins reed switch Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator

I think the relays ad alot to the radiant energy in the setup and agree that a 555 relay setup is the way forward the transister im not sure the 2n3055 is the one maybe Peter or Arron can help on that one.

Great Work Waterman and Imhotep