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Old 12-24-2008, 03:21 AM
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YouTube - Bodkins 50 spheres

may not need the diodes.
its all harold aspden stuff
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:55 AM
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Gentlemen I think it time for us to all get the path-123.com energy mastermind module.
I have been using the Project1World which is great but cash has been a problem for anymore.The time has come for something to give so all my old band stuff is going on ebay.

All that Arron has done from this forum is incredible and if I can get anywhere near his knowledge id be happy.

I may have something with the sphere or tube but the one wire charging has got a lot of life in it.
YouTube - Self Running Bedini Oscillator
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Wow. That's cool.
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Gentlemen I think it time for us to all get the path-123.com energy mastermind module.
I have been using the Project1World which is great but cash has been a problem for anymore.The time has come for something to give so all my old band stuff is going on ebay.

All that Arron has done from this forum is incredible and if I can get anywhere near his knowledge id be happy.

I may have something with the sphere or tube but the one wire charging has got a lot of life in it.
YouTube - Self Running Bedini Oscillator
Hi Bodkins,

It certainly helps. Before when we released the Energy Mastermind one, suddenly there was a super leap in progress in the water sparkplug thread in addition to multiple people in there talking about suddenly having similar dreams about the circuits.

There are a number of us using this behind the scenes and it isn't by accident that there is a different vibe with the progress on the energy threads here.

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Anyway, I posted that self running Bedini oscillator several months back but there didn't seem to be any interest in it. I posted 7 or 8 vids that I found on a backup drive in the last couple days. I'll post more as I find them.

Thanks for the mention Bodkins!

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Old 12-25-2008, 10:00 AM
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Now also any one interested in that negative resistor thing, Gene gave us te links.

Heres that link from jlnlabs... its been up there for a couple years
now.A Negative Differential Resistance Oscillator with a Negistor
here also this page to a loaded version a similar circuit.

The NDR Oscillator with LOAD
Not sure if its helpful... but probably interesting for those guys to
read. Gene
Ash, I'm commenting to bring this info you posted awhile
back, back up again, in case the guys were to busy to follow up on it or forgot about it.

@All,
Does a touch change what is happening inside the bulb or inside
the circuit to light the bulb or does a touch change what is
happening outside the bulb and outside the circuit to
to light the bulb or is it both?

Can anyone tell me in which direction the energy which lights
the bulbs flows?

I've seen touching on two videos now that causes a light
bulb to turn OFF. (there are probably more, I know of two)
This is a clue. Touching only "generally" causes the bulbs to light
or get brighter.
We have seen wood transmit a touch.
Has anyone been able to shield their touch from brightening a bulb?
A shield might be used as a funnel to focus energy?

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Old 12-25-2008, 02:16 PM
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Touch

If a crystal in salt water has the same effect as touch / nearness, and wood amplifies it and increases the effective distance...... And my video where touching wood lit the cfl only happened when the spark gap was jumped by said touch on wood or cfl,

THEN..

'touch' causes an energy gain to the system.

Also, when I connected only one end of a coil to negative line from ignition coil, voltage increased; spark gap doubled in length..

Tesla said hertz neglected the damping effect air played around the circuit, and this is why hertz mistook longitudinal compression waves for 'standard' em waves.

I'd say we're affecting the local aether stress and thus how energy can move thru system (or not)

I'm doing some experiments into dielectrics and Electrets as soon as the materials arrive in post. I hope to find more answers.. :-)
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@ Bodkins!
Here are a couple of links to something you MIGHT be interested in. I warn you though, it will stretch your belief system!!!!

Link; www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Davson.pdf
This is is the whole book, 350 pages. While I was reading it I thought of you and your experimentings.

Link; Karl Schappeller: Glowing Magnetism Prime Mover
This is a condensed/exerpted version of the other link, sort of an introduction to the ideas.

Hope you enjoyed your holiday.
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Old 12-25-2008, 08:57 PM
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@All,
Does a touch change what is happening inside the bulb or inside
the circuit to light the bulb or does a touch change what is
happening outside the bulb and outside the circuit to
to light the bulb or is it both?

Can anyone tell me in which direction the energy which lights
the bulbs flows?

I've seen touching on two videos now that causes a light
bulb to turn OFF. (there are probably more, I know of two)
This is a clue. Touching only "generally" causes the bulbs to light
or get brighter.
We have seen wood transmit a touch.
Has anyone been able to shield their touch from brightening a bulb?
A shield might be used as a funnel to focus energy?

Just
Randy
Hi Randy,

I like this quote regarding direction of flow.

"As far as we know, in an electric circuit nothing can actually be said to flow from one end to the other, but it is a “condition” set up throughout the entire length; and this length must form a complete circuit or ring, the shape of which matters little. Also, somewhere within this circuit, and forming part of it, must be placed the means of setting up this “condition” –say, a battery or dynamo.


Dynamos and Electric Motors"

This makes more sense to me than trying to comprehend flow directions. And the placement of conductive and non conductive parts into or around the circuit can affect these conditions. The insulation plays a very important role, sometimes forgotten I think.

@ Aromaz. I discovered a self oscillating circuit that is similar to yours yesterday. It was entirely by accident, and light output wasnt ideal, but it worked and drew less than 90ma from my 24v source. If the lights were hooked up to the negative terminal of the ignition coil it would stop. No connections on the base and just the second coil added off the secondary of the ignition coil. Interesting

@ Bodkins. Played around with filling a HV cap off the secondary (one wire) and periodically dumping into a charge battery. Has some potential in it I think. Cap fills pretty fast too, and doesnt affect the light output.

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Old 12-25-2008, 11:22 PM
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@ ren

I'll try your circuit. Do the transistors go soft? With Aromaz circuit my trannies keep dying.
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Inquorate. If you want try my approach. Instead of 2222 I'm using 2n3906 and I have wire from base going around the coil. From the bottom to the middle is the best. Power trannies never died on me. I mostly managed to burn 2n3906 with my experiments, I even managed to explode some

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Old 12-26-2008, 02:12 AM
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I'll try your circuit. Do the transistors go soft? With Aromaz circuit my trannies keep dying.
Ben, I actually have the circuit setup with the PWM (same one I gave you) triggering the transistor. The h11d1 is an opto isolator, which isnt necessary, but you can use one if you like. If you are going to Jaycar for the parts you will have to get the h11d3, which is the same except rated for 50v instead of 300.

I only noticed the self triggering when I hooked in the solenoid off the HV coil and my PWM input wasnt connected. Mind you I can get 4 lights lit to useable brightness on 24v @ 100-150ma with the PWM in use.

I only posted the above circuit because I found it interesting. The self oscillations only start when the second coil is placed in series with the HV output, and the lights are lit off one wire, which terminates at the last globe, i.e it doesnt hook back into the circuit. I never had any problems with Aromaz circuit, except I couldnt get the lights very bright.

Ill come around sometime and show you how to hookup that PWM if you like
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:32 AM
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Ren@works ok for me too nolight drop.trying to get it to the front end Try negative of cap to ground sometimes it charges fast depending of your setup.
Warren@ just downloadind the book i see the sumary before but not the book cheers Mr
Had a great xmas got a REALLY good voltage/frequencey/temp/duty cycle,basicly everthing meter so im REAL happy.
Hope was good for you

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Hello,

I am a beginner, I want to know if anyone ever use wall electricity for lighting up the CFL in the same way anyone use 12VDC?

Would applying 220VAC to the circuit will work if we replace the relay with something like Omron MK3P-I (rated 250VAC, 3 sync contact) ?

And would it be safe for other electronic attached to wall electricity?

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Old 12-26-2008, 12:44 PM
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sucahyo nice idea but i ccant help you there( i do used a 12 wall suppy).

Aromaz@All
Can you get two tubes/sphere in your origanal setup in the way i posted in the video?, the thing is anypoint you connect to ground the tube can be used,
warren red the first quote on the 2nd page I like his style

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Old 12-26-2008, 06:51 PM
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Hello,

I am a beginner, I want to know if anyone ever use wall electricity for lighting up the CFL in the same way anyone use 12VDC?

Would applying 220VAC to the circuit will work if we replace the relay with something like Omron MK3P-I (rated 250VAC, 3 sync contact) ?

And would it be safe for other electronic attached to wall electricity?
Its done all the time. HV/HF from a tesla coil designed to run off mains power. Most designs of this measure usually opt for maximum power transfer for maximum arc display. You could use a neon sign transformer to step up voltage into the 1000's of volts, simple spark gap and tesla transformer.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:15 PM
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More time in the new year?

@ren - haven't had time to try out the PWM yet except to hook it up to my meter. My next project is to make a better lab power supply. I still have a computer power supply I think will do the job.. And I have a few batteries that need recharging..and... And... And...
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Thanks for the welcome .

Thanks for the answer. The safe part is what I really like to know most. I work as network admin in a factory. Many computer power supply just can't withstand the fluke generated by giant motor in on off mode. I figure that HV experiment is small scale of that and may harm other electronic too. Based from the answer it is safe.

I notice that in some video blue relay that anyone use produce loud buzzing. The noise would reduce considerably if we pry open the blue plastic casing and put it inside something smooth, maybe cotton.

I read that CFL act also as negative resistor. In the Imhotep circuit the CFL put in parallel with load, I assume this will increase the current flow to the load, right? If we put more CFL in parallel there will be more current goes to the load?

If we put CFL in series with the load would the voltage in the load increase without reducing current?

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Hv diodes

I want to rectify the output from the ignition coil with two hv diodes to pos and neg of cap from pos of secondary coil. OR use pos and neg of coil and four diodes...

Any tips on which diode to buy from here, or any other sources?? Any suggestions welcome..

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Old 12-27-2008, 03:47 AM
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I got some from a microwave. If you are going to buy some try to get 20kv plus.
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Hey guy,s check this out

This guy has got the voltage so high and the current so low that he's getting gaseous streams..

Up the frequency until it goes invisible, stick a segmented surface ie a single wind coil in or near the stream, and the voltage should multiply..

High Voltage

Anyone who wants to stick their hand in these streams (bodkins) should feel safe enough putting their family pet (or a goldfish) in the stream first..

Thinking of building a tesla coil and running it from imhotep coil, and spark gap...

Looks fun.
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Ren's two transistor self oscillating CFL circuit

Ren---I made the circuit that you posted and was able to get the loop closed by using an earth ground on the base of the small transistor. I discovered a strange thing at the end of the day when I was charging up the battery while running the system. The amp draw went to zero!! I got all excited until I realized that it must have just been the wall wart but when I unplugged and disconnected the charger the thing went to zero again if I touched the CFL!! . I made a quick video of it and showed a scope shot of the wave form. It may have just been "stray current" going through my body but it sure was weird.

YouTube - Ren's two transistor CFL circuit

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@Sucahyo that might be what's happening, cfl's being negative resistors in some way... But a standard negative resistor is supposed to use voltage. The frequency on my systems has gotten lower with each cfl though. As for cotton in relay... Just one little spark... You could try a solid state relay to reduce noise, I thought of it but they're really expensive..

Try using step down transformer and diode bridge from the wall. Put it in a box for safety.
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Ren's cfl circuit

@ Lidmotor - I can't remember who posted this, but see what a crystal in a glass of salt water does. Also, what does touching wood do to amp draw? I've just realised I never checked.. I was too overwhelmed by the obvious voltage increase that made the spark jump the gap...

If both happen, that would mean we're definitely getting something from outside the system going on...

I'm getting more transistors soon :-) and winding a version of spark prolonger coil tonight that aaron? posted.
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@Inquorate : It was my post, it was a glass of himalaya-salt-water and a crystal. I am doing more experiments with that right now and will post some more movies about it.
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Ren---I made the circuit that you posted and was able to get the loop closed by using an earth ground on the base of the small transistor. I discovered a strange thing at the end of the day when I was charging up the battery while running the system. The amp draw went to zero!! I got all excited until I realized that it must have just been the wall wart but when I unplugged and disconnected the charger the thing went to zero again if I touched the CFL!! . I made a quick video of it and showed a scope shot of the wave form. It may have just been "stray current" going through my body but it sure was weird.

YouTube - Ren's two transistor CFL circuit

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Hi all

I tried this circuit and did see a considerable reduction in current when touching the CFL lamp from about 40mA to 20mA. However, the lamp was dim either way but did not reduce when touched. I tried to get the lamp to a practical brightness but the current always shot up. I eventually blew the transistors.

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question about the h11d1

this is a 6 pin package, and you are only using pin 4 (e) and 5 (c) ?


http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...shay/83611.pdf

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Back in operation, had too much bed time - thinking and scheming might be dangerous ........

Now back up to date and off to my lab for a nice full Sunny Sunday of playing with serious coils and circuits.

It is time for us to change - get away from the transistors and relays.
Why? Because they limit our ability, they are limited in power and they
are most likely the obstacle we have to reach our goals. How to do? Maybe get them isolated from the circuit..........?

[quote=Bodkins; Aromaz@All
Can you get two tubes/sphere in your origanal setup in the way i posted in the video?, the thing is anypoint you connect to ground the tube can be used....[/QUOTE]

I am not sure I understand this clearly? On my circuit once it is running and pulling the power form earth, I can connect the tube (1 to 5 units) one pole anywhere on the circuit with the other to gorund and it will lit up. Even connecting to positive or negative of battery and off to earth. .......
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:18 AM
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I have a riddle:

Everything goes into the Black one from where nothing came out.
Everything comes out from the White one where nothing went in.
The Black and the White are not the same because
The Black humans can See,
The White humans Theorize.

What is the Black and what is the White.

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Old 12-28-2008, 01:39 AM
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I have a riddle:

Everything goes into the Black one from where nothing came out.
Everything comes out from the White one where nothing went in.
The Black and the White are not the same because
The Black humans can See,
The White humans Theorize.

What is the Black and what is the White.

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Hi Aromaz,


Not sure about what is black and what is white,But sounds like quantum tunneling .


-Gary
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Ha, I like that riddle. I'll keep my lips closed till someone gets it... Had me stumped for a good 15 mins aromaz.
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