I hope this takes the struggle out of duplicating this concept. I saw a bunch of stuff that didn't make sense cause it doesn't REALLY show the simplicity. When you watch this, just make it, it works.

I appreciate the private messages I get, but when it is to ask me specifics about the circuits, etc... It gets a little overwhelming for me to respond to all the questions. I do enjoy answering them but it is time consuming. THAT IS WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR. Post the question for EVERYONE to see.

There are so many people here much more skilled than me and it is good to see a more wider perspective than mine when it comes to answering those questions. Also, I get a better opportunity to learn by seeing the other responses.

Anyway, enjoy this video.
Any car coil,
any little photoflash capacitor
hv diode or a lot of smaller low volt ones in series.
No sparkplug without resistor, 2 nails gave me the effect
so I bought a resistorless one today to see a difference.

My 9 diodes or however many there are blow out after a few sparks,
point is, you know the concept.

Gotoluc and Ossie showed this particular variation! There are more and other enhancements. Gas pressure analogies...get them in mind and you'll figure out more.

Anyway, the best way to personally support this open source sharing from me personally is by using the Energy Mastermind modules. Many people do this as a hobby and have a full time job already. PATHS is my full time business and this forum is part time...and does take time and money to learn.

Enjoy the video:
YouTube - Water Sparkplug | Electroradiant Event

Gotoluc's 1st post at overunity.com. He said I could post this here:

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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« on: June 26, 2008, 10:01:38 PM »
Quote Hi everyone,

I believe I have found a way to change water to a fuel.

See Video: YouTube - Ganga Shakti - Water Power Test 1

This page has been updated July 2nd 2008 and is now titled:

"Ganga Shakti - Water Power"

If this is the first time you are viewing this page I ask you to share this link immediately to everyone you have in your email address list and ask them to do the same no matter what you or they may think. We need to give this back to the World a.s.a.p.

Next I ask everyone to stop experimenting if you can and help with this, since I believe it is the one of the most promising real effect at this time (that I know of) that is fully shared on the Internet. Nothing will be hidden here. You can view the development of everything that is going on.

Now let me give you some background on this. For a couple of years now I was a member of a Yahoo Group called: WaterFuel1978.
At this group user name: s1r9a9m9 claims to have one of his cars working on water and says that one of the parts he uses to do this is an inverter and also some relays. However, no one to date have been able to replicate it and the site dates back since, Jul 30, 2005. On or around June 25th, 2008 s1r9a9m9 posted 2 videos on youtube to show a 18HP one cylinder engine running on water. The video is quite convincing, however he is hiding the important parts to make this work.

After seeing the videos I posted this message to s1r9a9m9 at the WaterFuel1978 Group:

Dear S1R, thank you for the 2 videos which now would make it very hard to say it does not work.

However it is a sad day to think of the years that passed by and our World is getting wasted by these greedy fossil fuel controllers and
to think that all this time you have been a chosen one to put the pieces together that could change all that... and what do you do with it, hide it, just as they do.

All gift of knowledge comes from one place and it is testing man to see what he does with it. All that is good to help keep balance is
meant to be shared with all...just as the structure of the Universe keeps balance and is giving. When one stops the flow that would be
good for Billions of others I would think of that as a great sin and your life could be in much greater danger than you think. All who have tried to control their inventions that could of made our World a better place have lost their life over it or have been bought out just to hide the information. I'm sure Stanley Meyer would do it differently if he had a second chance but it's too late when your dead and the knowledge is lost.

Hiding things will not protect you, sharing will...since you will be welcomed in all the homes of America and the World as a Hero. Now
that is protection if you think you need it. By hiding things you are doing exactly as they want and that makes a small target for them since it is not spread out and can be easily extinguished, 99.99% of the World won't even know it has happen.

You chose your destiny. But I am here to help you in every way I humanly can and I think many others who are here are ready to do the
same. I hope this time we can do it all together, united we stand, divided we

I have hope.

Luc

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I have believed for many years that water could be used as a fuel.

The next day I posted the message to s1r9a9m9 I started a replication attempts of his system and while working on it I accidentally shorted the DC side of the bridge rectifier and saw a flame spark which made me think of plasma. So I tried many different circuit possibilities to try and incorporate this short circuit effect when the high voltage spark jumped the gap. After 2 days of work I came up with a very simple circuit which is posted at the bottom of this page. I had to work hard to make the circuit so simple since our minds think something like this should be complicated, so don't come to the conclusion that something so simple will not work until you try it. At the botton is my original circuit but I updated the diode part number and the quantity thanks to user name: callanan's added his improvement ideals. His circuit is more complex than mine and could work for you if you are advanced enough in electronics but one way or the other I would recommend (if you want to replicate) that you start with the simple circuit first and after seeing the effect you can add the extra components if you wish. Please note that I believe both circuits give the same effect.

Also, please note that most Spark plug have a resistance in them which needs to be removed. In many models of Spark Plugs you can remove the resistor by heating up the ceramic around the top electrode to unlock the seal and then unscrew it and remove the resistor and spring and replace it with a piece of 10 gauge copper wire or 3 pieces of 14 gauge regular home copper wiring to complete the contact. Make sure the wire you added touches the top electrode just before it sets when you are screwing it back in. The gap of the plug can be standard but you could play with it after a successful replication and see what it does. We will be testing all these things and updating this page with the most current information, so keep checking this page for updates.

A note about the video above. I realized only after seeing the video that you cannot see the complete flame that I was seeing when doing the demonstration video. There's a orange red glow around the spark when the water explodes which the video does not pick-up. Also I did not realize at the time when shooting the video that the air was getting very humid in the garage since it had started to rain outside and the door was open. This is why the spark plug was continuing to show explosions which surprised me while I was video taping. Also take note that not much water is needed to see the glow and you can kill the effect if you add too much water mist.

Thank you for looking and please remember to Share.

Luc

This is calanan's more advanced circuit to use with a signal generator:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...attach=2445 6

LUC'S UPDATED SCHEMATICS ARE IN NEW POSTS...PLEASE SEE

« Last Edit: July 03, 2008, 05:38:05 AM by gotoluc »

I bought some ngk sparkplug at schucks for about $2.

Some NGK's I had were about 4.5k ohms and one champion one I bought had about 25k ohms. So anyway, just ask for one WITHOUT a resistor. Seems to be used for lower voltage systems like motorcycles. So easy to find.

Krupa's spark plug has no resistor. Anyway, I think that sparkplug has no hope of becoming commercialized with this breakthrough because I think it may make it obsolete.

ROSCO, you're the plug expert, can you verify these results under compression? I did use the resistorless NGK motorcycle plug and sprayed water and it does explode water mist like in Gotoluc's vid. Would be interesting to see this circuit sparking your Firestorm duplication!

Guy at store said if it didn't have an R in the part number then it didn't have a resistor. He almost wanted to prove it to me with the tech books. lol - if it is that simple, then ask for a plug without an R in the number. If that is true, then simple to get a plug without resistor.

Also, as a thought, I wonder if Robert Krupa had his ignition system setup like this to make the firestorms do what they do???

Anyway, much easier probably to just buy one without a resistor.

I actually measured 1 ohm. Not much so that is good. However, my nails had less resistance 0 ohms! lol

HV rod in Gray Tube has no resistance.

To scan Stephan's forum at overunity.com on this water spark plug, see this thread:
URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

The most important posts in my opinion are the ones who actually duplicated it

Gotoluc's and Calanan's.

Thanks Aaron!
This is very interesting. I just got an ignition coil from the junk yard across the streed and am intending to verify this. It is a shame that I don't have a ultrasonic fogger, this would be exactly what we need for this experiment. I will post my results later

I posted this link in the earth battery forum because it uses the same coil the schematic of one of the circuits of the earth batteries I was building....


Here are some of my thoughts about this.

1. DANGEROUS very high voltage need to be extra careful on this one.

2. FUN! but safety wins out with me over fun. Trips to the hospital are no fun.

3. I was thinking of running my SSG with this.... builiding a circuit that would build up the cap to 45 V, then hitting the SSG with the power stored in the cap.
I have a 300V transistor for my SSG, and I am thinking what would an SSG do with that much voltage.... and what would the back spike look like.....

These words come to mind from free energy generation book.

Do not do this experiment unless you have some knowledge of the components.... batteries make hydrogen, and given too much voltage they can spark internally and you have exploding sulfuric acid everywhere.

This has slowed me down.....

But, I have been thinking about this, why not make a custom made engine that would use this. take an atomizer with water like a fog machine and pipe it into a chamber with the sparkplug.

I think he needs a relay with filling the cap so he does not have to do that by hand....

.... but I am so drawn to this experiment, it show soo much promise, much energy out for so little in.

I am thinking about the nebullizers they use with children to help them breath. I see them on ebay all the time. it would go thru a hose and should be ideal for feeding a mist to the plug.

Mart, I think that those nebullizers are also using an ultra sonic fogger in them. But you can buy the fogger alone cheaper. It costs about 30$ on ebay.
Anyway, I put this circuit together. Instead of inverter I am using a variac. The capacitor is 150uF 400V and all the diodes are IN4007. There is no sparkplug, just two bolts with the flat sides facing each other. The air gap is about 0.5mm. The capacitor is very leaky so I need to fire it just as I turn off my variac. Got some nice bangs. Then I sprayed a little water over the electrodes. They got wet, but there were no water drops formed between the electrodes so that they are touching through water. The wet electrodes gave a bit bigger bang than when they were dry, but I could hardly see any difference in spark appearance, maybe it was a little more red or yellow, but it is gard to tell. I am thinking that maybe we could put the spark gap above a can of boiling water, so that when the steam comes up and through the spark gap, we could fire it.
Here is my setup:



Those are two neo magnets attached to the + terminal of the cap.

@Aaron

You'll have to excuse me but I don't see any extraordinary in the circuit you made.


1. You charge capacitor to some small voltage (I guess 110-250V if you using a standard inverter). The voltage is simply too low to allow for capacitor discharge over sparkplug electrodes.

2. You close switch discharging the capacitor into the primary of the ignition coil (the good old CDI concept) thus causing the high voltage spark to jump over the electrodes of the sparkplug. The high voltage spark will cause local media ionization thus allowing for the low voltage/high current source (inverter) to produce high current (and high temperature) arc.

Of course extremely high temperature of high current arc will explode water vapor or steam. But then again if you take any extremely high temperature object and put it in contact with steam it will explode it.



I also looked at the links to another forum you provided and they're using pretty much the same concept. I maybe missing something but I don't see how is that related in any way to Gray tube electro-radiant event? I admit it is a great way for causing hot arc in order to explode water steam but the way I see it it's nothing more than that.

Look at his new video.... he is much better ..

YouTube - Ganga Shakti - Water Power Test 3

cool stuff.

Lighty I can do this discharge constantly at higher frequency. It is STONE COLD.

It is not what you think.

I can also have the HV diodes coming off of the + of the BRIDGE when the bridge is disconnected from the cap AND with the inverter turned off....and it gives me the same effect...so there is no high temp high current arc across the gap.

See below:

Lighty,

The HV output of coil seeks ground at the HV diode that is connected to common ground since that is paths of least resistance. It does find ground there there since it is in contact with the low voltage potential. Diode slams off and slaps it hard and it has nowhere to go but to ground at plug.

That is what is happening...it is a very simple electroradiant event like what the Gray circuit produces but on a much smaller scale.

Lighty,

Watch this video:

YouTube - Water Sparkplug | Isolated Capacitor

Notice Jetijs also said he turned off or disconnected his variac

I think they're doing same thing:
YouTube - Plasma Spark Plug Test on Engine and water

Brilliant!!!!!!!!!

Hi everyone, just dropped in to see how things are going here and as I can see Aaron is doing an excellent job . Thank you Aaron for helping others to understand what is going on in this simple but effective circuit. Do you think this could be the working principal of lightning also?

At everyone please keep up the good work and remember to share

Luc

Hi Luc,

I'll keep watching your progress. There is already enough info here in this thread to get plenty of people started. I'm happy to send people your way to that thread as I already posted links to it.

I understand that some things like this are just too simple and just pass by the wayside because of lack of belief that it can be that important...I am hoping you and anyone else working on this keeps pushing it like a mad dog on steroids. This method follow the rules of what needs to be in place to unleash an electroradiant event...serious fragmentation of a voltage potential. Spreading a certain amount of voltage potential over a larger cubic area of space.

Understanding the primary principles involved and they are in Peter's Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity book on the Gray Tube technology....they give the insights into everything that is necessary in order to enhance this entire effect, make it more powerful...not worried about efficiency because charging those caps take nothing at all to begin with. If you haven't read that book, I suggest reading it and if you have, then you can see that it describes perfectly what you are working with

My experiments today show me that capacitance is virtually irrelevant and it is all about the voltage. I went up in capacitance for the same voltage...no matter what, the effect didn't improve...and didn't necessarily diminish either going down in capacitance.

Did you say in a vid or posted somewhere you used as small as 2uf capacitor? Or someone else did? That proves the point. What about .1 .01 .001uf at the same voltage. It is all about tuning the gas pressures on the front and back for each system and it probably won't take long for most of it to be worked out. At such small capacitances, they can obviously charge up lightening fast and not only fast but can be charged a long time using watch batteries, AA batts, etc...

People want caps and strobes to play with. Don't buy them. Tell people to go to a grocery store that processes film. Say they're working on a science project and need a haldful of the disposable cameras that already have the film ripped out. They have caps about 120uf and 120v or so plus the battery and charging circuit plus the strobe, etc... I went to one store about 7 years ago and I got about a dozen of them.

Personally, from the simplicity of this, I think the gas production requirements posted by the "gurus" of water gas production are bogus and are meant to distract people from the real secret. Meyer shows in the first patent and last patent about spark discharge and then spark at the plug. With the potential of this method, I can see how it is possible to run an engine on just water vapor, but an obvious enhancement to make it work really easily is that any engine running on it can easily produce a good amount of HHO gas from a booster to add to the moisture. This is where I think it needs to go.

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