Greg and all, I need to tell you where I'm at with my Plasma plugs and Kiker wires. My 1988 Dodge Raider 4 cys 2.6 lit engine had a bad carb so I replaced it with a Weber conversion. There is no electronic control on this carb and you can change the primary and secondary jets from the outside. I got the mpg from 15, (running full rich), to 20 mpg. The ball plugs only give me about 1 mpg better. I put in smaller jets and got the mpg up to 23 mpg. I put in the kiker wires and still got 23 mpg???
Right now it looks like the only way to take advantage of the ball plugs and Kiker wires is to lean the engine more. Remember I was running plasma for 25 miles and burnt up one of the four of my ball plugs and got no better gas mileage???? The other three was showing destress also. Of course I was driving my plugs way to hard but it made no difference on my mileage. Greg How are you getting what your getting? What are you doing that I might try also? Please advise. Bob

Are you doing any water injection?

I have my Board all wired up and installed. Should I do a video of it running???



Cutting the hole for the plug was a real PIA! Next time I am just going to drill a hole and use a rubber grommet.

Sure, I would love to see that

Robert E., do you use a steam injection in your setup? Because Greg does and the great results were achieved using plasma spark + steam injection combo
Plasma spark alone, at least in my experiments, gave me only 7% economy, but with hot steam it is a whole different story
Good luck!

Greg,
How is the progress on your newest steam injector? Do you think you'll have a post soon?

Thanks,
Xack

Hi Xack,

Well, I'm pretty much burned out on this stuff ... and broke. Someone called 'aquapulser' has created a production-looking version of all of this. At least I can finally justify NOT spending any more time or money on this stuff.

I was wondering when someone was going to post about this.

YouTube - Plasma Spark I

I will be interested to see the long term effects on both plug and chamber using one of these.

BTW, some time ago, someone posted a circuit in bench operation which was producing the plasma spark accompanied by loud snaps! Duringt the test, they change something, they still got the plasma spark but it was silent! I think they then pursued the loud snap direction. Does anyone know which of the videos this was and which circuit was used?

Cheers
Ozi

Hi Ozi,

I didn't know anything about the Aquapulser project until they posted links to their videos a couple of days ago at the Overunity Topic:

URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

About the silent spark and still showing effect with water was a discovery made by Aaron: YouTube - Water Sparkplug | Plasma Ignition | With current restriction I also tried it with a choke coil and got the same results.

Cheers mate

Luc

Hi Luc,

Thanks for that, I don't think it was the video that I remembered but still shows the principle. In the video that I remember the researcher discovered it by accident and wasn't sure what was causing the effect. Aarons video explains the effect which is even better.

Cheers and thanks again
Ozi

Please forgive me if this already mentioned before:
Coats & Schauberger - The Energy Evolution - Harnessing Free Energy from Nature, page 57(44)
Just wondering if anyone ever try to use the mist of spiralling water.

No Jetijs, I was going to try that next. I also remember Greg saying he set the timing close to top dead center, I believe. I Wonder with the much hotter spark If the timing being set normal for gas if maybe we aren't getting some more firing and burning before TDC??? thereby loosing some power. I could easly change the timing to see if this may be happening. Does this make any since?? Bob

Hi Bob,

I would try to bring the timing closer to TDC or at TDC if it performs well there. The main reason timing is advanced on cars is the fuel energy is delayed from the spark. However the plasma spark maybe faster at converting the fuel energy so one should definitely be testing different timing positions and bring it all the way to TDC if it gives best economy. Leaving it stock you may not see any benefits while using the plasma spark or even losses as it will somewhat stall the piston movement if the fuel energy is before TDC.

You may also need to lock the timing advance mechanism.

Let us know of your result once you change things.

Luc

Rich A/F mixture burs fast so old cars mechanical advance was set around 15deg.
Lean mixtures burn slow thus computerized ignition system produce spark up to 60deg BTDC.
Maximum cylinder pressure is obtained at TDC by heating the Nitrogen and Steam, a byproduct of combustion.
It is hard to control the burning process therefore, to take the advantage of heat produced by the plasma-steam at least two ignition points are required, One for the normal A/F ratio and Second at TDC (additional heat).
To take advantage of Pulse Detonation (interaction of water and plasma) ignition is required ATDC so that the Crank-Shaft- Rod geometry is not opposing supersonic pulse load.
Al

As promised here is a short video with crappy audio.

YouTube - Vexus Plasma Spark.

If you are wondering.... Lysol. I think part of the problem is I did not have the plug grounded very well. All my vice grips are in my spray foam truck.... I may do another video when my new plugs arrive.

Hi all,

Well I turned OFF my Vexus System, kept the water drip steam ingestion, stayed with my 1/2-step-down main fuel jet size, ran on my .080 gap Robin David nickel Firestorm plug replicas.

Engine gets warm so I need more steam. As you know from my videos, the Firestorm plugs generate their own plasma-looking spark under pressure.

40.5 MPG

Greg

Hi,

My VexUs system only used a 2uF dump cap so it didn't fry the plugs. Truthfully, I think my mileage resulted from a combination of things: plasma, fuel leaning, water ingestion.

Greg

Here are some pictures of my plugs.

All of my plugs wore very well. I was especially surprised to see the low wear on the beryllium-copper plugs. Nice job of replicating to Robin David.

Greg

far left is the nickel plug with 750 miles, an unused beryllium-copper, 4 be-cu's with 1,400 VexUs miles of on them


close-up of the unused beryllium-copper plug and some of the used ones


close-up of the nickel plug

Thanks Greg for sharing these new results with all of us.

Very impressive to see next to no deterioration on Robin David's Firestorm replicas.

Thanks

Luc

nickel plug looks great Greg success IMO!

Wish I could get some... untill then Im trying to get these:

Hi Shane,

those marine plugs seem to be good from what other have reported. Never tried them myself though.

Also, your new video looks good

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Thanks.

Plugs are on order. Looks like the 3rd order was the charm....
First order canceled as they are "discontinued". Second order, I canceled because I found them cheaper.... well sort of. 3rd order I had to buy a case of 48 but they were the same price I was paying for 16. I don’t need that many but if they are in fact discontinued.... well I'll have them.

Oh and they are not Champion L76V as those will not fit in my car. I found some that will:

Racing Plug, 14mm Thread, 19mm (3/4") Reach, 5/8" (16mm) Hex Size, Gasket Seat, Non-Resistor'.....

As a side note,
I made some magic smoke today with my vexus setup. It was running fine until I installed the plug in the car…. I don’t know if the wire grounded out (most likely) or what but I fried the 1ohm Caddock resistor. However it still worked fine after pulling the plug. Stupid overhead cam… I guess I have to build some custom made sparkplug wires to run the vexus on my del Sol…

Shane

This maybe off topic but have you guys seen this.
Maybe something for OU researchers to check out.
I don’t post to many forums but have been doing a lot of research and some R&D on what I think shows promise. This appears to be something that could be applied to many of the OU devices that most OU open source engineers would be interested in
YouTube - howard johnson magnetic motor

A case of 48 ... maybe you can sell groups of 4 on eBay and recover most of your cost.

Keep us updated of your progress.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

A while ago someone (i think Aaron) made a youtube movie where he used a weed eater engine and moved the piston with a plasma spark.

Does anyone have a link to it? I can not seem to reference it on youtube. I recall youtube was giving Aaron a hard time, and he moved his stuff.

Thanx!!

HI,

For some reason I think it was a member 'djzissis' from Overunity.com. I've been looking for it ... no luck yet.

Greg

Here ya go:

It was 'djzissis'.

YouTube - Plasma turning engine -

Greg

Thank you for looking gmeast...but that is not what i was looking for.

The vid i am talking about has the engine on the bench and he is basically truing the flywheel with one plasma spark. Just demo that the plasma can move the piston.

Hi xbox hacker,

maybe it's these by OU user callanan:

Video No.1: YouTube - Plasma Water Engine Proof Of Concept Setup


Video No.2: YouTube - Plasma Water Engine Proof Of Concept Demo

OU Post: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Luc

Update on my 1988 Dodge Raider with weber Carb with no electronic controls. I am running kiker wires and ball sparkplugs and two sizes jet smaller in carb. This is with stock ignition with a msd coil. Fuel burn went from 15 to 23 mpg. Kiker wires didn't help any over the regular wires. I then changed my timing to tdc but when I tried to drive the car I had such a reduction in power that I changed it right back. I then put in my hydroxy generator putting out 1 lpm Hydroxy and checked the mileage and got no change, still 23 mpg??? I couldn't believe it. I guess I need to put in water mist or steam next. I know in my heart that water will work as fuel with the right fog, mist, steam whatever and the right ignition and timing or lightning bolt. I just haven't found it yet. God knows and when the time is right maybe he will give us this knowledge. Keep on working guys Keep on keeping on Bob E.