Hi Greg
Byproducts of combustion are: unburned hydrocarbons, mostly water and small amounts of carbon monoxide/dioxide and nitrous oxide. Mainly Nitrogen and steam are pushing the piston. For every 14.7 lbs of Air and 1lb of gasoline car exhaust has about 11lbs of Nitrogen (.78x14.7) and about 1lb of water.
What is the relative humidity in the car’s exhaust?
“The humidity in the air plays a much bigger role than combustion by-products.” Humidity dilutes Air/Fuel ratio and decreases horsepower, lowers combustion temp by this reduces NOx formation and acts as cheep octane booster on engines with compression ratio around 10 (only at part throttle).
Al

What I've shared with you is covered in the first semester of thermodynamics both in high school and junior college. But I'll go ahead and humor you anyway.

"An internal combustion engine is actually a steam engine in disguise"

All internal combustion engines run at their optimum on a cool, humid day.

I'm done

P.S. Anyone discussing the Water Spark Plug anymore? Oh by the way if anybody has built that neat oscillator I posted for use with my VexUs circuit, I discovered that you don't need to use electrolytic caps in the oscillator. You can use Mylar or any non-polarized caps. I used 1uF Mylar caps with total success. Thought I'd share. Oh and I've complete the mods to my engine for more steam 'ingestion' and should derive even greater thermodynamic benefit than I did with the drip system. Also, I'll be posting a video of a silver Firestorm replica under compression pressure with high humidity fired by the VexUs Hybrid CDI Plasma circuit.

Later

Thanks Greg looking forward to the video

Hi guys,

Well I guess you have all been wondering where I am and what has been happening. In short - nothing! Sorry for that.

The long story - When I last contacted Ash, I was having problems with the jig that I used to drill the holes in the plug jacket to house the cage arms. I just could not get the precision right. So I had nothing to send him. At the time it was Nov - Dec which is when I am flat out at work so I shelved it until after Christmas. At that time I found that my latest attempt was also useless and then all engineering firms were closed until mid Jan. So I had nothing. Now mid March I finally have found a firm who, rather than make me yet another jig, have suggested that it be done on a computerized milling machine. The owner seems quite confident of the outcome but as yet, I still don't have any plugs.

Rosco, I now have electronic ignition in the Mazda and a HV coil. I have lost your number so if you still have my number, could you please call me as I have a couple of questions that you may be able to help me with.

BTW My mechanic, who is an Ex Speed car driver, is going to do a baseline on the dyno with STD plugs, then pull them, install the Ball plugs and re-test. This should provide definitive results. He has advised me that he is the eternal skeptic and doesn't believe that we will see a useful difference.

I guess we'll see but first - I still need my set of plugs and I promise I WILL keep you guys in the loop!

Cheers
Ozi

PS. I have not kept up with the progress here but from the little browse I just did, it seems plenty has been happening. So I have to ask - are my ball plugs even still relevant?

Distributor arcing simply eliminates ignition coil per cylinder using several sensors of opto-electric ignition system and couple (for dual ignition before and after TDC) of slotted plastic discs inside distributor cap.
Typical 1500-psi pressure (point load quickly dissipating) in a cylinder for maximum load , full throttle and optimum rpm is much smaller at part throttle; assume 15psi per degree (1500 / 90deg).
Having in the cylinder: optimum Nitrogen, “Relative Humidity”/steam and 32 (160/5deg) plasma supersonic pulses/waves starting at 10deg After Top Dead Center,
what would be effective supersonic torque as opposed to pressure torque produced by Nitrogen and Steam?
Al

Hi all,

I just watched this video on youtube.com:

YouTube - Micro DRSSTC

purportedly the smallest tesla coil ever made. What if it was even smaller? Hmmm...

Regards,
Andy

silly question perhaps..but how do you 'turn on' the drip system from the driver seat ? I have an aircooled VW and trying to implement your steam device...or have you upgraded from drip system to something better ?

Thx
D.

Anyone following this thread would be wise to check out this older thread:

Harvey Kiker | Kiker Performance Products

Exciting discoveries are being made.

hey all....

this is a long story so ill make it short ..i have a hydrogen generator that i was working on.. till i figured out its all about the water sparkplug ..anyways last year i had the privalige to talk to a man that helped stan meyers on the the water sparkplug....he basically laughed at every body on the internet trying to reproduce it .. because he said "theyll never figure it out"...he said there are three secrets they will never figure out...i thought he was talking about the hydrogen generator but the secrets didnt fit for it .. anyways this guy is a piece of sh...t for keeping this kind of info hidden that why his friend {stan} got smoked..anyway here's the scoop..#1 his sparkplug was made of 304 stainless steel and the tips were coated with palladium...#2 the voltage he used was 16,000 volts , how did he get that voltage..#3 he said ...hand wound capacitors ... now heres the tricky part was he talking about that 430fr wire or what ..dont know .. i aint no genius..or was he talking bout the bifilar charging coil {choke}....

Hi Greg

Yes, I built your 12 Volt to 300 volt converter if thats what you mean.
For some reason I am get 500 Volts with no load. I am using cap's form a throw away camer untill I can get some old microwaves from the junk yard.
I have not tried this in the Vexus ciruit yet, do not thing the cap's will hold up!


Mike

Up until now I just opened the engine compartment and and turn a needle valve until it drips about 3 drops every 2 seconds or so then take a ride. Not very scientific but it showed me the value of the extreme humidity in my first tests.

Now I have a small peristaltic pump with speed adjustment ... that's almost installed. It has a speed adjustment pot that can be made remote for the driver.

The economy slowed me up again so I'm presently stalled once more.

Greg

Hi Gregg

I'm looking for a similar pump for a similar idea for my 5.5HP BS engine.
Can you tell me where you got your pump and/or what is the make and model?

Thanks
DonL

Hi greg,
I just wander that can I use exhaust to be intake like geet or EGR system,
Cuz now I use VexUs but not steam inject, not significantly change in fuel consumption, but i recirculate small exhaust to intake like egr system. i always saw water drop in this line, so this i think i will increase exhaust/air ratio to add more steam but steem from itself not from water drop.
my qusetion is i need to know your ratio of steam that you get better millage, that i can convert back to exhaust/air ratio. if i pass this exhaust to water bubble tank it will be sat.vapor like geet system but at first let's try to use itself... that's my idea,
sorry for my bad english language,
thanks,
zzz

Wonder is Greg's Bug should be a GEET WITH the vexus... maybe that would be a better use of the vexus plug circuit? Only saying as the GEET gas (WATER filled)fires in the center apparently.. hmmmmmmm thats ONE way to do it i guess...


Ash

Hi Don,

I got mine from McMaster Carr. Actually I got two ... a micro flow and a mid-range flow.
p/n 4049k66:microflow, 0 - 3.12 gal/day
p/n 4049k77:microflow, 0.15 - 32.33 gal/day

You have to calibrate them. I searched and searched for a 12 VDC unit but most of those were emergency medical devices costing sometimes thousands $$$. The ones above can run on a 9 V battery (comes with 9 V clip and jack). You can get a jack and wire your car battery to it ... or cannibalize the 9 V jack supplied.

They cost $110 or so when I bought them. They are NOT the best devices. They are bottom of the line devices so as I said you need to calibrate them and make sure the voltage to them is pretty constant.

If someone has a line on better ones for the $$$s I certainly would also be interested.

Well, there ya' go,

Greg

Hi zzz,

Actually, I think the geet-type water bubbler might be very good because it will also give hot vapor (almost like steam). I am not sure how much work is involved in creating/controlling exhaust bypass to to the bubbler (on a car)

Got me re-thinking.

Greg

Hi Ash,

You may be correct. zzz got me thinking about the bubbler as a steam/vapor generator. I'm just not into considering running the bug on Katchup (Catsup) though ... tee hee.

Greg

Hi all.
Here is a small video of a Krupa style spark plug replica bench test. I got the spark plug from user Robert.E (thank you ). This is just a bench test. So far I do not see any difference compared to standard plugs except for the greater electrode surface area. As soon as I get some more free time, I will test it on my genset.
YouTube - Krupa plug replica test with water spark circuit
Thanks,
Jetijs

Hi Jetijs,

Firing open air you probably won't see much difference. Try firing under pressure in a pressure chamber, as the pressure goes up past 150psi, your plug should put on a nice display. I believe that as most engines don't achieve this under compression by itself, the plug comes into it's own when it fires again through the pressure front of the combustion. At this point even standard ignition voltages and currents should achieve a plasma spark with this plug.

It's good to see that more people are getting these plugs put together out there!

Cheers

the real world i try water drop but engine run quite not smooth.
I try to use steam that is byproduct because ratio is accurate we will got steam as much as we use fuel, that an idea. how much your bug water consumption?
thanks.
zzz

Apparently the water vapor gets "cracked" in the plasma GEET reactor, funny how all the gEET guys are trying to use a plasma ignition now

Guys check this out -Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory scientists have shown that water, in hot dense environments, plays an unexpected role in catalyzing complex explosive reactions. Read more at alternative energy

Decades late see what Arlington Aerodynamics Research Center is experimanting with
YouTube - Pulsed Detonation Engine 1 Hz Ground Test with Arc-igniter
Al

Hi everyone,

it's been a while since I have posted new information but hopefully I will start my experiments soon as winter has now past and the weather is warming up so I should be able to continue soon.

I found on YouTube a Romanian engineer named Mihai Rusetel that seems to have developed and patented a water engine.

Video link: YouTube - Water Engine

If anyone knows the language, could you please give us some details on this.

Thanks

Luc

Thanks for that link Luc.

Exploding water in the microwave
snopes.com: Superheated Microwaved Water

Ash

Guys, this looks like a "water cracker" Steam system.

Translated version of http://fr.ecopra.com/index.php?/Kit-Ecopra/Presentation-du-kit-ECOPRA-C

Translated version of http://fr.ecopra.com/index.php?/Videos/Ecopra-sur-Mercedes-308-D

gotoluc, regarding the engine invented by Mihai Rusetel, I could say that it is a sort of a steam engine.
It makes steam with a hot electric resistor (or something like that), and feeds the cylinders. It does not crack the steam. It may look promising, but the eficiency is low... Sorry that my fellow romanian didn't make something better.
Anyway, there are other romanians that made great things in history. I would give you only one example. You know about the Wright brothers that flew first in 1903. Well, 3 years later, working independenty from them, a young romanian reached the sky. It's name: Traian Vuia. Yes, it's true that his airplane looked much like a big umbrella with an engine and two propellers, but it flew.
Another big romanian that worked in the field of engines and aeronautics, was Henri Coanda. He developed the first jet engine airplane, if I recall corectly.
Cheers.

I cannot believe it's been almost a month.... I am thinking of using a Molex plug for the connections out the case (to sparkplugs, block, and AC). Will make a real nice clean look and install.

Hi! Everyone this my first post here. I have just spent the last week or so reading thought this entire forum. So I realize that his has been said before but “WOW” you have done some incredible work. Congratulations! I participate in some other forums where they are trying for better mileage or how to figure out how Stan’s car worked and while there have been some mileage improvements Stan’s car is still a mystery.

Having some familiarity with VW’s I found Greg’s fix for his leaky oil cooler to be incredible. Most “rational” individuals would have consigned that engine to the scrap pile. But then most rational individuals could do what you have done here they would have started out with idea that it is imposable and then worked to prove that their assumption was correct. By the way old VW’s do not leak oil, that is just their way of marking their territory.

It appears to me that spark plugs, plasma, and steam injection are the way to go thus will be working along that line. I’m thinking that I will start with building the power inverter and diode strings and running some tests with it. (I already have a bunch of 6 amp 1000V diodes on order.) Eventually I will consider machining some spark plugs but maybe by then Firestorm will have something on the market.

Hi Kinetix,

thank you for your reply

That is interesting information about Romanian inventors.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

Shane what a beauty man love it