Hi Bodkins,

On the copper rod, Kevin had better results when the hole that the rod was stuck in was filled with potash. For the zinc rod can be galvanized steel and for the positive rod, copper.

I would do smaller experiments to see what you get...personally for the real thing, I'd use giant plates of copper and galvanized steel. 4 feet by 8 feet. I got some copper sheets from Peter and I need the galvanized steel sheets (for roofing) and I'm putting one at each end of my garden...it is a small garden...4 feet wide by 20 feet long....that is a long distance of 20 feet for the Earth battery but in theory, it shouldn't matter for the earth currents. I will at first simply connect a wire to both sides to get the battery entrained.

See this page:
PowerPedia:Earth battery - PESWiki

"A protective or other coating covered each entire plate. A copper plate could be coated with powered coke, a processed carbonaceous material. To a zinc plate, a layer of felt could be applied. To use the natural electricity, earth batteries fed electromagnets, the load, that were part of a motor mechanism."

I'd read that whole page.

Thanks Arron.
Been looking into earth batterys because Mr Bedini web site seemed to make a big deal out of them. The earth currects are new to me was playing with multi cells but thats not the way to go. The only problem i built a solid state osscitater using 555 chip for triggering my coil with a magnet at the front, so no motor will this Work? (for pulling the currect out of the earth?).

I have a very small garden BUT
I have a allotment(in england in the war farmers got kick off there land for the war effort so they where given a allotment of land for there own food needs this still stands today, I have one its 10m by 40m (30ft by100ft) rent is very cheap $20 south facing.
But my point is there are around 70 allotment with mine.
If i can make something down there and show it to people somethin as simple are a light thats on all the time.We can get a movement going, one of the blokes is a Green MP for Sheffield. What do you think?
Also was thining of a UK Thread for supplies,help,and strenght to try and get things moving.
I have nether met anyone of these great free thinkers on this site and thats just wrong!
Great leap forward?

Thx Aaron!!!

What would we do with out you? (Seriously)

What kind of energy harvest is expected from this endeavor?

Earth Battery sounds kind of ironic to me. Always thought of earth as ground!

It is a ground but its also a vast reservoir of electrons to be tapped. just think lightning. the earth is one pole of the charge that lightning is part of. Like sitting on the negative pole of the car battery the size of a planet.

From the beginning, John has shown that you can ground the sg to the earth. Look carefully at:
http://www.esmhome.org/library/john-...-bedini-sg.jpg
http://www.esmhome.org/library/john-...bedini-sg2.jpg

Below pic is what I'm pointing out:


Unfortunately, most people haven't paid much attention to these details.

In my diagram:



I show something else.

The zinc rod from the SG's ground is going to earth. That is a real GROUND. The Earth may or may not be used as an electron source. You can get a POSITIVE radiant potential (voltage potential) from the Earth and this has nothing to do with electrons.

My diagram shows Bedini's ground as she has shown in front of everyone for years but hardly anyone noticed but a few. The other copper rod is what Kevin had on his setup in addition to the goofy magnet setup when getting way over 1.0 COP. Thing is, Kevin didn't even have the regular ground rod from the neg on the system...just the rod with diode to the + on the charge battery to absorb radiant potential from the earth.

This diagram is putting BOTH of them together. It will be obvious to anyone that has experimented with Earth Battery setups that looking at my diagram, both rods together obviously form a basic earth battery or a real potential difference at both rods...about 2-4 volts can be easily expected almost anywhere at minimum. You have to poke around a bit to get above 2 volts but you can find it.

The battery, better if large plates or of other construction like Bedini shows on his site, intercepts and soaks up earth currents and entrains the earth currents there.

What can be expected out of doing this? Everyone has to do their own experiments but what Kevin and I have found is that the charging effect in the output battery increases.

You can see where the diode leaves the copper rod and goes to the + on the charging batt...there are other places you can put it but you have to explore that on your own.

Just see the SG for what it is...it is a gas valve and all concepts of gas pressures apply. What do coils do and how are they pumping this gas and how do you get low and high pressures and putting that together with what is sitting on that diode on the copper rod, well some things should reveal themselves.

Thank You Aaron.

First thing i have done is a standed earth battery. one nail and a bit of copper wire and the results are very good 1volt in my back garden.

My setup in a 555chip Generating a square wave of adjustable frequency (approx. 20 Hz - 20 kHz) If anyone can tell me what a FET is and how it works in this 555 setup i wound love you for ever
Maplin > 555 Noise-Maker Kit

to a bedini ciruit to a coil 26awg around 200 turns (no magnets and i think i need a second wire for pickup on the inverted square wave)iron core welding rodes from BQ.
Without the earth battery setup i still charge a battery but the frequency will change as the 555chip battery drops in volts, this is a problem do i put a resiter before the bedini ciruit to stop the power crossing to the base and rejuice the lost or do i use a opto thingy.

One more thing, I see the stuff as Water.Its goes where there is less resistance(down Hill) Like caps are big buckets and the earth is a very big bucket! so if i can make it go down hill into a battery it will charge?
so make a bucket battery how you do this I THINK! is condioning the battery with pulse charging?
I once read the the bad people in the world stole a battery bank from jim somebody or was it gray i cant remember.
My friend keep taking the piss out of me, All i talk about is batterys!
They call them Bodkins Batterys
Take Care People.

Bodkins,

You don't need a 555 circuit to pulse the coil on an SG oscillator. If you set the resistances right, it will pulse at its own synchronized frequency.

Thanks MR
Do you aggree with other things i wrote about the bucket and battery stuff?

Hi Aaron and All

Here is a link to some info on earth currents. It is centered around using the earth as an aerial instead of ground. But it reveals the nature of how ground currents work.

Ground Antennas

Maybe you can incorporate some of the ideas into grounding the SG!

Chris

Hi Bodkins,

Yes, to a point. Because of how gravity works.

Mass displaces a certain amount of aether depending on the density. That stressed space tries to rebound back to where it was displaced from. It moves from above towards the center of mass. Like the Earth...it moves from above to the center of Earth. On its way down, it pushes on anything with mass. The denser the material, the more dense the atomic matrix of the material. 1 cubic foot of lead and 1 cubic foot of wood. They both have the same volume but lead is heavier. Its atomic matrix is more dense. As the virtual photon potential of time/space rebounds to the center of mass that displaces it (Earth), the pushes down on mass. There is more open space in the wood than lead. You lift up each one and the lead feels heavier. That is why. In the world according to Aaron at least

Anyway, so there is a piece of what you say that I agree with but my opinion of course has no bearing on what is actually happening. It however, does make sense to me.

The Bedini SG is tapping gravity as the gravity potential is moving downward and has pressure on the magnets and the way the coils is pulsing, the collapsed field of the coil sucks in this gravity potential.

The ground to the Earth on the SG serves another purpose, in my opinion, and this is to give a more "conductive" route for gravity potential to follow, therefore, increasing its own density (gravity push) from above, and down through the magnets and SG circuit.

That is another source of input from the environment.

The magnets help to pump this gravity push in a way that synergizes with the coils' ability to suck it in off and on at whatever frequency the machine is running at.

Right I get it thats why all sg machine are vertical. to use gravity. Do you think i wound get better results for the sg than a ssg.
I what to buy a really big spool of 19g wire and pulse it with a 555.I dont what to have to whind the spools.Also trying to use a reed switch and a magnet at the front of the coil to make it ossolate.(my spelling is crap! sorry) I know you said put a ressistor on the trigger i will try this witha small coil i have, will play tonight and post result.

This seems much simpler than running a 200 ft wire....


YouTube - Free Energy

theremart
I got 1.2v today from one nail and abit of copper 6in apart how easy is that. some bloke on youtube got 0.95v from 100m wire. next week im going for potash copper and galvanized steel (not found any zinc yet. will post results.

Drop them in a glass of water.... you will be surprized by the voltage...

Mart

in the ground together in water or apart in two contaners.

In a cup...


I saw this on a video on youtube and ... it interested me more about earth batteries.

Thank you theremart
one 25ml water tube puts out o.85v the thing is i put a battery (9v reading 8.66) in series now i get 9.50 volt.Hows this work?

Hi Bodkins, there are schematics in the Bedini Oscillator thread.

It works good

Now put a little baking soda in the mix, should give you another tenth of a volt.

You have two different metals, the exact mechanics of it I don't know, but I noticed in reading about the old earth batteries, they would drip water on them to keep them moist. I figured ehh why not just put them in jugs of water with electrolyte... sorta create your own battery.

These are some cool videos...

YouTube - Water Battery - Quest For Free Electricity Part 2

YouTube - Water Battery - Quest For Free Electricity Part 2