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Old 05-09-2012, 06:35 AM
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Another coincidence?

Is it just me or do you guys also see the resemblance of Rickoff with the Russian inventor Dimitri Petronov? Check it out!

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Old 05-09-2012, 10:45 AM
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This strange Accidents from Inventors accompany me close in any Story, since i started looking for alternative Devices instead the Grid where i got the Power from. Further it even been not Accidents, but threats to the Inventors, or, not especially him but his Family or his relatives.

The reason why noone really knows about it, is simple. Any Information you get is almost from Media (about new Inventions) or from Books.

Now figure, when you are in the Position, where any Information comes to you like it is by Reuters, and you sort it out, what should be published, and what not, you can easy sort, what Informations the Peoples will have, specialize the Interests from certain Groups, what you wanna serve them, and publish that, like, the new xxxsupercar has now a bigger Motor, a new style, whatsoever, and what Interest also, like Fashion livestyle 'new developments'.
Then you easy can stay quiet about the Technologie about, what you dont wanna see,
even otherwise, bring some 'mythbusters' into the game, what debunk the Devices in a more or less reliable Way, and you can People convince, that it cant work. And thats why its easy to make People believing, that there is nothing else, as what we know from Media. Any Text Book or unwanted Book is also allready censored, what comes with the common Education at Schools.

Not to mention here at this Point, that special Agencies, i dont name them at what Group they are, murder Peoples and blur any Tracks back to the Inventors and the Technologie behind. But i can see, that her Authority goes far. In this circles is nothing with anything like real Democracy or respecting Humans life.
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Old 05-17-2012, 10:11 AM
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Plasma Battery Technology - DoE Whistle Blower Speaks Up

Did you guys see this?

Green Plasma Battery - Former DoE Employee Admits Cover-Up In Progress - Science Forums

This removes what little doubt I had left. Now I believe you Excelerator. Sorry but I am always the last to believe anything that could be called a "conspiracy theory"
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:02 AM
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Time to organize some legal action?

Thanks Gringo. I also found this information at this new blogsite and am curious to see how long it will be before it gets deleted! DoE Technology Suppression

Now that we all can see the writing on the wall, think we should organize some class action law suit against the DoE and try to get Greenpeace, The Sierra Club or maybe the ACLU to provide the legal resources. Does anyone out there have any better ideas?

And yeah, Mr. Rickoff could pass as Dimitri Petronov's brother. The resemblance is ironic.
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:10 PM
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Hello rickoff,

If I may add to the list. Ambient heat turbine/generator, also falling under the name of heat pump had serious good backing by Australia's then Prime Minister John Howard who mapped the whole of Australia's Urban Geothermal, that is temperatures below 100* Celsius.

However he was caught in the Coal avalanch of 2007 and the project cemented over later by the introduction of a Carbon Tax and control to the rate of Clean Green Energy conversion to maintane a Carbon emission rate of 80%. Result cheaper to buy a license to dump CO2 from the Government that convert to new technology.

In 2007 the technology was donated Open Technology to the Australian people by way of gift received by Government. After two of waiting while various Ministers took a look and it went no further nor has since it was World posted Open Technology.

The technology involved is a combination of Einsteins boiler fridge and Kelvinators compressor fridge. Aping in part the technology of Steam driven turbine/generator.

Put in simple, CO2 heats in a Boiler (for want of a better word) the same as water heats in a boiler. The hot gas (steam) applies its pressure to a turbine. The hot gas/steam is then cooled . CO2 gas needs compression whist steam condenses back into liquid. As in steam turbines the liquid is then pumped back into the boiler. In the case of CO2 this is done by the compressor which actualy is little more than an extension of the turbine shaft.

To put the technology into perspective The operating 350 megawatt Toshiba steam turbine/generator at Tarong Power Station Qld Au. It requires a driver force/pressure of 175 bar. (1 bar being 14.2 PSI) Steam at temperature of 550* Celsius provides 175 bar force/pressure. Tarong Power Station burns 240 tonne of Coal per hour to maintain that steam force/pressure.

For the steam to condense back to water it must be cooled to 100* Celsius. Effectively this means the water must be heated an extra 450* Celsius.

Carbon Dioxide sealed in at 31* Celsius is liquid and has a force/ pressure of 60 bar. At 100* Celsius it has a force/pressure of 7,000 bar.

End result, the heat need of 1 steam turbine is enough for 176 CO2 turbines. Calculation- 6,940 bar (100* C) divided by 175 bar = 39. 39 multipled 4.5 times (100 into 450).
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:40 AM
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Very interesting. thanks for sharing. Have you ever read the small writeup George Wiseman did on his research in having a similar device, using a turbine driven right at the state change of ammonia? Only a 45 degree variance is needed, if I remember correctly.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:27 PM
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Just to add, I remember reading an article a few years back about someone @ MIT doing something similar with compressed ammonia gas. If I remember correctly it was so thermally efficient that it got cold after powering a turbine. Always wondered why no one was doing something like this to increase the efficiency of ICE.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:52 AM
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The one invention that really got my attention was the TPU by Steven Marks. I really believed it worked as he demonstrated it. However, I'm not so certain if he was the real inventor of the device.

Anyway, I tried to dig as much info on it and many many others tried to replicate it with little or no results. I don't know what happened to him now or his device, but I gave up on researching it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:09 PM
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Hello k caring,

Thank you for the information. Though I must say I have not read of him but will after reading your post.

Our research however took in the Royal Navy 1812 trialed an Ammonia piston engine using ambient heating and sea water cooling. However it went no further due to the crash of Coal price to a penny per ton.

We originaly started with Ammonia but after first construction learnt the hard way it eats out brass and most other metals.

It was after that mishap on our part, American NASA first published on CO2 as a refrigerant now commercialy sold as
R744.

CO2 has is far more thermatic than Ammonia and not as hazardous to life if escaped. However it does require a different boiler-cooling system as it changes in part to Dry-Ice when subjected to pressure above 60 bar.

Our work is posted Open Technology and I be happy to pass on all we have on the development.

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Old 08-02-2012, 05:29 PM
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Hello Phoneboy,

Thank you for your post.

We first published our work in 2002 and am unsure if MIT was working on the same thing at the same time. However if they were or not is of no concern to us as we published our work then and now as Open Technology.

You be entirely correct ice will form at exit of the CO2 from the turbine.

The CO2 turbine copies the work of a fridge. The difference being the restrictor plate is replaced by a turbine. This has the same effect of the restrictor plate in reducing the pressure of the gas/liquid entering the expansion chamber (see web How things work electric and absorption fridge) however instead of using the cold gas forming in the expansion chamber to cool your beer, it is picked by the compressor/pump and returned to the boiler.

To reduce the efficiency loss of a standard compressor we extended the turbine shaft and cut a thread in it. The extended shaft is enclosed to seal all in, and again to lesson friction we attached a water hose so a smal ammount of water would be periodicly picked by the screw and form a liquid seal that travells behind the CO2 untill fall out and then going back to be again picked up by the screw of the compressor.

Wikipedia suppled the temperature to pressure chart up to 32* Celisius

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Old 08-02-2012, 05:39 PM
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Hello Madeo,

Thank you for your post.

I appologise for not getting replies in right order, I am no nerd on a computer.

Thank you for you have said. We have not heard of whom you speak.

Should it of any assistance to your research we first web published in 2002.

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Old 08-02-2012, 06:15 PM
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Hello Phoneboy,

My appologies for not fully replying (too late at night or too many neurons burnt out.

We have done extensive work with ICE.

The alternations needed to a post and rail injected engine is the top camshaft is altered after the first cylinder to do away with the intake valve and to exhaust open at bottome of each stroke.

The water jacket of the IC engine gets hot by having one cylinder burn fuel. This cylinder retains the normal four stroke engine cycle. The cylinder there after is/are made hot by the water in the allready existing water jacket.

At the top of each piston stroke CO2 is injected and the hot cylinder acts as if it be a boiler.

The upward exhaust stoke drives the CO2 into an expansion chamber to cool where it is picked up the slide rail injector which compresses the CO2 gas into liquid and injects it into the cylinder.

A Diesel engine at a compression of 300 PSI (21 bar) and best expansion of 5 to 1 delivers a piston force of 1,500 PSI
(100 bar). Diesel burns at 1,200* Celsius. CO2 starting at 30* Celsius and heated to 100* Celsius has a force of 99,400 PSI (7,000 bar) so less thermaly active fuel is a good idea.

Put in perspective thats more 700 times the kilometers per tank of fuel., taking into account the combustion cylinder is also providing drive force over and above the second cylinder powered by the expanding CO2.

We did write to various engine manufacturers most didnt bother to reply, one sent a representatives to inform us of the harm we would do if continued down that road. They left fully aware some peaple pray to die to stop the torment racking their body while others would do all in their power to keep death from them. They didnt visit twice.

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Is it just me or do you guys also see the resemblance of Rickoff with the Russian inventor Dimitri Petronov? Check it out!

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It's a fake. I'm from Russia, there is no any Russian scientist Dimitri Petronov. The photo is taken from some US company website.
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:55 AM
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Is it just me or do you guys also see the resemblance of Rickoff with the Russian inventor Dimitri Petronov? Check it out!
Hi Bill,

JustAnotherMe was right, and the photo floating about on the Internet which is usually purported to be of Dimitri Petronov is really that of a Kent Davies.


To me, that doesn't necessarily prove that there is, or was, no inventor named Dimitri Petronov, but it certainly is cause for skepticism regarding the stories associated with the photo. Last word, as far as I know, was that Dimitri was claimed to have been pulled from the Volga River and was found to be missing his fingers and his teeth. Pretty gruesome, if true, and I would hope that I don't resemble such a sight!

Until I hear a better explanation, I would tend to think that the Internet stories of Dimitry Petronov probably originated from an individual or group which specializes in disinformation/misinformation posts. Such posts most often begin in forums where people discuss conspiracies, for the simple reason that the person posting the story knows that some of the forum readers will take the story and run with it, repeating the story at other similar websites. After the story has gone viral, the original poster then discredits the story by proving it to be false. The reason for this type of scam is that if one story of a missing or murdered inventor can be proven false, it then brings other similar stories into doubt as being "tin hat conspiracy theories." That's why we should be wary of this discrediting technique, and thoroughly research such stories before passing them on as being authentic. The fact that we can find Dimitry Petronov mentioned at several websites, for example, does not indicate that he is a real person or that the stories about him are true even if he is a real person. Good research involves going much deeper than doing a Google search on the name of a supposed inventor.

Rick
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