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Old 04-13-2007, 09:54 PM
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Water as a burnable fuel

What are your thoughts on this Water as Fuel technology. Denny Klein uses his own process to convert h2o to burnable HHO which he supposedly uses to operate a blow torch and fuel a car.

I am wondering how much electric is required to complete the conversion process. very little in the way of technical information is revealed in the video.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:51 PM
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Brown's Gas - Eagle Research by George Weiseman

Hi Gary,

Here is a link to Eagle Research

George Weisman is the leader in water gas torch applications. Has been doing it for years. With HHO. It is a trippy gas and his site is a great resource.

On his site, you can get the Brown's Gas books to make the water torch yourself or even a hyzor, which is the small one for use in a car...the gas gets sucked into the air/fuel mixture to boost gas mileage.

Many people have duplicated this method and have exceeded Faraday's law of electrolysis. It is pulsed DC instead of steady current.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:01 PM
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Ahh, thanks Aaron, very interesting link.

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Yull Brown's 10,000 Liter per hour electrolyzer (very large and heavy machine) took enough power from the grid to dim the lights in the entire neighborhood.
Thats the kind of data i was looking for. It would seem that there would be a drain somewhere to actually convert the water into the burnable gas to fuel a vehicle.

still alot of postive applications I am sure...
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:16 AM
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Yull Brown

Hi Gary,

That is a very powerful version he was using.

The torches you can buy from Eagle Research of course uses a lot less and produces less.

Interesting you can melt tungsten like butter but the flame won't burn your hand. Melt a rock into a puddle and when it hardens like a moonstone with hardness of 9..diamond is 10. Lots of other applications.

I saw that video clip you posted. Was on the news. Not sure how he can get a patent, George Weiseman already put the info in public domain and Yull Brown had a patent on the concept and Rhoads (William??) had a similar one. Anything in public domain is not patentable. He may have independently discovered it and was unaware it already existed.

Patents are good for 17 years I believe and Rhoads and Brown's expired. The exact method that guy in the video is using is basically what you can buy off the shelf at Eagle Research...or build your own.
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