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Multifilar Generator Coil - Lenz delay Experiments

Hi all, thought I would make a new thread for this, don't want to clutter up anyones thread.

Experimenting with the multifilar coil, lenz delay effect.
This coil has 50 strands of 30awg. magnet wire.

Used bailing wire, cut to short pieces and spray painted each piece for the core.

The pieces are shoved into a 3/4" diameter length of PVC pipe and super glued in place.
The coil/core former is adjustable.

Also used a new piece of wood for the base, as the previous base was warped and was causing vibrations and noise, it runs much smoother and quiter now.
Using a brushless 400 size, RC airplane motor for the drive, with 2s lithium ion battery pack, hooked to a reciever and transmitter.
Rotor has 8 - 1" diameter by 1/8" thick neo magnets and the rotor diameter is 3-3/4" to outside of magnets.
Will be placing coil strands in series to try and achieve lenz neutral or speed up at reasonably lower rpm's.
Questions or comments welcome.
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Skywatcher,

Having built over a hundred of these type of coils that are capable of speeding up under load, and having made the information available on this forum as to EXACTLY how and why you use multiple strands in parallel, I have to ask you what possessed you to choose a number like 51 as the number of strands you put on your coil?

The information I presented, which is straight from Tesla's patent on this topic, states:

"I have found that in every coil there exists a certain relation between its self-induction and capacity that permits a current of given frequency and potential to pass through it with no other opposition other than that of ohmic resistance, or, in other words, as though it possessed NO self-induction. (in other words, no LENZ)This is due to the mutual relations existing between the special character of the current and the self-induction and capacity of the coil, the latter quantity being just capable of neutralizing the self-induction for that frequency. It is well-known that the higher the frequency or potential difference of the current the smaller the capacity required to counteract the self-induction; hence, in any coil, HOWEVER SMALL the capacity, it may be sufficient for the purpose stated if the proper conditions in other respects be secured.

A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent insulated conductors electrically connected in series and having a potential difference of such value as to give to the coil as a whole, a capacity sufficient to neutralize its self-induction, as set forth."

In other words, lots of strands wound in parallel and then connected in series are needed for testing. SOME combination MAY give you a coil that speeds up under load IF you have a rotor with the right strength of magnet on it passing by your properly "tuned" coil. You need a number of strands that is divisible by the MOST numbers in order to give you the MOST possible combinations for connecting them in series.
For instance, the number 12, which is what I recommended as being one such number because it gives you a number of possible combinations without being TOO much of a pain in the ass to wind. I myself have wound 36 coils with this number of wires and am about to wind 12 more. ALL of them speed up under load.
12 strands of #23 each 253 feet in length with four strands connected in series, giving me three wires on my coil. This produces about 130 volts at 1.5 amps per coil at 2800 rpm using my particular rotor of a specific size with a particular number of magnets on it.

WHI DID I RECOMMEND 12 STRANDS?
You can have 1 strand of 12 wires connected in series
You can have 2 strands of 6 wires connected in series
You can have 3 strands of 4 wires connected in series
You can have 4 strands of 3 wires connect in series
You can have 6 strands of 2 wires connected in series
You can have 12 strands of 1 wire

Six possible combinations to try and get the benefit of this kind of coil with YOUR particular rotor (1) with YOUR size (2), number(3), and strength(4) of magnets on it, rotating at YOUR rpm(5), past coils wound with YOUR size wire(6) at the length(7) YOU chose. Because there are, as I have just listed, SEVEN variables to take into account. I tried to give people the EXACT information to replicate my generator, but I KNEW they would build with whatever they happened to have and be pissed when they didn't get the proper results, so I wanted them to at LEAST wind a coil that gives them OPTIONS and a fighting chance to be successful.

Remember, the MORE strands in parallel, the better your chance of speeding up under load. But the LONGER the strand, the more voltage you get out of it. You have to figure out what you WANT and build your coils to achieve it. Experimenting with the SEVEN variables I listed will give you the voltage output you want at the MOST amps possible while still speeding up under load.

Possible strands in parallel on a coil:
12 wires gives you 6 possible combinations
24 wires in gives you 8 possible combinations
30 wires gives you 9 possible combinations
36 wires gives you 9 also so not worth it for the trouble
40, as I recall, only gives you 8 combinations, so you would be going backwards
48 wires gives you 10 possible combinations
51 only gives you TWO possible combinations

Having said ALL of that, and talked incessantly about speeding up under load, I will say this. The MORE you speed up under load, the LOWER the output of your coil will be. What you WANT is a coil that does NOT speed up under load, but does NOT slow down either. Neutral. This gives you the MOST output while affecting the rpm and amp draw of the prime mover the LEAST. You will then be left with TWO problems to solve. The first is the attraction of the iron mass of the core to the rotor magnets which cause magnetic drag and increased amp draw of the prime mover. The more coils, the greater the amp draw. Enough coils and the amp draw of the prime mover becomes so great it will BURN UP. The second is the heat generated in the coil core. Run magnets past them long enough and you will MELT the insulation off your wires, leaving you with a shorted out mass of copper. I have 36 such coils at approximately $58 per coil, not counting the bobbin and the TME wasted winding them. Ferrite cores may address that problem.

So anyway Sky, why 51? Whose advice did you follow to get that number? I know it wasn't MINE, and when someone is putting out the effort to see if this stuff is for real, I want them to have a fighting chance to be successful. Although, I will say, with 51 strands in parallel, you have EVERY chance your coil will speed up under load. It just may not put out much voltage. Probably amps though!. If you're serious about testing this stuff, you need a coil. I MAY have one I could send you but it will be like a week before I gat a chance to FIND it in all the stuff I have in the shop. My mom organized my shop while I was gone to a funeral, so it is fairly neat and tidy now, but I can't FIND anything because I'm not the one who put it on the shelf.
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Here is a page I ran across in my EARLY days of building these coils. I believe at the time I was using three strands each 800 feet in length of #23, although I MIGHT have been using 3 strands of 1000 feet by that point. I'd have to dig into my notes further to see, and I just don't have the time right now. But I talked about adding feet to the coil, and I eventually arrived at 3 strands of 1000 feet as my end goal. I did NOT use strands on these particular coils that were composed of many strands wound in parallel and connected in series. I just had three strands. I recommend the 12 stand method for everyone ELSE though. I KNOW what works on MY machine. You DON'T know what works on YOURS yet.

I took all the coils off the big Generator. There was:

1 that measured 5.2 ohms.
2 that measured 5.4 ohms
6 that measured 5.5 ohms.
2 that measured 5.6 ohms
1 that measured 5.7 ohms


When I test the coils individually to see which ones speed up under load, the 5.2, the 5.4 coils and 5.5 coils do NOT. The 5.6 coils DO. Haven't tested the 5.7 coil yet.
I only have TWO coils on it right now. When I put a 5.6 coil on each side of the rotor and run just ONE of those two coils to a load by itself, the motor speeds up under load. Doesn't matter which coil I do that with. When I COMBINE the output of the two coils, it does NOT speed up under load. I have tried switching the wires on one coil, using bridge rectifiers...two different kinds plus one I made from high speed diodes. I am going to try a couple things tomorrow, like flipping one of the coils around and maybe even winding one of them counter clockwise, just to see what difference it makes.

Here is an interesting fact. When I take the output of both coils to one of those little terminal blocks that have the screws so you can attach wires to them, and run wires from the other side of the terminal block to the lights, the lights will NOT LIGHT UP. When I remove the terminal block, and run the wires directly to the lights, they light up fine. It makes NO sense, but I tried three different terminal blocks and it was the same for all of them. It's almost like because the metal in those terminal blocks is different than the copper in the wires, it won't work.

Now I can get both coils to light up the light bulb either together or separately. I can get either coil to speed up the motor under load. If I use separate loads, one will speed the motor up and the second one speeds it up even more. But when the output of the coils is combined, there is no speed up under load. I think I need to reverse one of the coils. Will try that tomorrow. I'm feeling a lot better about the big generator and about how to get it to work. I'm going to unwind one of the coils and accurately measure the footage to see how well that compares with the ohms chart. I am also going to see if the 5.7 ohm coil will speed up under load, and then add some 10 foot (3 strand) lengths to it so see how many I can put on before it stops speeding up under load.

Oh, I am also going to see if the 5.6 ohm coil will speed up under load on 24 volts and 12 volts as well as 36 volts.I want to see how much difference the RPM makes when the ohms on the coil is high enough, or if I still have to run it at 2800 RPM or higher.
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Hi Turion, wow, thanks for all the great information.
Thanks for the coil offer, though I think for now, I'll just experiment with what I have.
It is 50 strands, should have made it 48 though.
I guess I'll just not use 2 of the strands, then I will have a 48 strand coil.
Only half way done marking all the strands with masking tape and checking continuity with meter for matching strands.
That is interesting about the connector strips.
Could it be, when using these multifilar coils at lenz neutral or speed up, maybe it is creating a different kind of energy that is flowing over the connector strip and short circuiting itself somehow.
Will continue working on this coil.
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Hi all, thought I would make a new thread for this, don't want to clutter up anyones thread.

Experimenting with the multifilar coil, lenz delay effect.
This coil has 51 strands of 30awg. magnet wire.

Used bailing wire, cut to short pieces and spray painted each piece for the core.

The pieces are shoved into a 3/4" diameter length of PVC pipe and super glued in place.
The coil/core former is adjustable.

Also used a new piece of wood for the base, as the previous base was warped and was causing vibrations and noise, it runs much smoother and quiter now.
Using a brushless 400 size, RC airplane motor for the drive, with 2s lithium ion battery pack, hooked to a reciever and transmitter.
Rotor has 8 - 1" diameter by 1/8" thick neo magnets and the rotor diameter is 3-3/4" to outside of magnets.
Will be placing coil strands in series to try and achieve lenz neutral or speed up at reasonably lower rpm's.
Questions or comments welcome.
peace love light


hello Sky

You are really moving along, yes listen to Turion on man, that is what
he is here for. 48 is a great even number and one more thing, all of
these talks we are having right now are repeats of what you have
heard for years.

You are we acquainted with the details. You are very sharp and in my
opinion are one of the few who could actually move this tech forward
at a lower rotor speed. I would have beaten you but right now I am
out of time to do much on coils.

The lower rotor speed of 1200 rpms is still a mystery that I think will
be solved with the shorter strands though I have never heard of anyone
using such short strands and so many of them. Not even Turion. I
don't think so.

What maters is you are trying something new. The reason this test is so
important is that there are thousands out there already using a form
of an Adams or Bedini rotor running as much as 1000 rpm's using those
tape job rotors. They can all get their feet wet with their existing setup.

Here is another reason I like your test. Let's say that with this higher
resistance wire you reach the cancellation null point at the low rotor
speed using 24 strands. Not only would you another 24 strands to make
another output channel but maybe using all 48 strands might let you
run a 500 rpm rotor speed.

Wouldn't that be kool? I think that would be great. This could make for
a switchable multi-speed operation. A motor generator that works
collecting back power at many speeds. Like my room fan, it has 3 speeds.

I did the same thing painting up bailing wire.
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Hi mike, thanks for the kind words and positive encouragement.
I see what you're saying, many more can use this, If it can be lenz neutral or better at lower rpm's.
By the way, I guess I did count correctly when I was in the backyard, the coil is 50 strands.
I finished labeling all the strands today, that was tedious.

Also, for those that may not have seen bromikey's coil making guidance in the other thread.

He gave the great idea of putting posts in the ground at 40 feet, and walking the wire around the posts, back and forth, till you have the number of strands you want.

Next step, going to connect strands in series, incrementally.
Then, short circuit them for each series coil pair added, to observe for decrease in lenz effect.
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Edit: Also just realized, I need to cover all the stripped ends of the strands not in use,
to prevent any of them from touching and messing with the experiment, so, no testing until that is done.
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Thank You Mr Turion

Here is me being audacious That's me. Squeaky wheel. I
feel like I need to be a public nuisance talking extremes to get
attention.

You will notice that the 11th strand (each one 170ft) was not the null
point but way way past allowing drive motor power reduction of nearly
500ma. Starting at 2400ma dropping to 1930ma without collecting
the coils energy. That energy amount was another 20watts so let look.
Using only half the coils strands. What if I had 6 coils?

88vac x 2400ma = 211 watts drive input dropped to

88vac X 1930ma = 170 watts then add another 20 watts or less.

At 17 strands I generated far less but speed up was great but because
my wire is only rated at 600vac and I was running 1100vac It has
weakened. Untrustworthy for any accurate measurements at this point.










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If you have magnetic neutralization so that no matter HOW many coils are in place the rotor is free wheeling. If you wind a bunch of coils of the kind I describe and put them around the rotor. If you energize them as motor coils, how efficient are they? If you look at Tesla’s Patent, he NEVER talks about them as generator coils. That is something I figured out by APPLYING the principles he is teaching. His whole focus was on their use as MOTOR coils. Every amp of INPUT is used for rotation and NONE of the input is wasted fighting against the electrical OUTPUT of the coil because there ISN’T any. NO self induction, remember? The ultimate motor coil.

I haven’t talked about this before because I was kind of waiting (for years) to see if ANYBODY actually read the patent and could understand what he was saying. But here is how it applies here...

Run these coils as motor coils until you get your machine up to speed, and then flip some switches turning them into generator coils. What “work” do they have to do to keep the machine running? The rotor is free wheeling so all they have to do is keep it turning at speed while generating. Self runner? Who knows. How many generator coils, which are also MOTOR coils will it take to keep the rotor turning, and is there room for enough of them around the rotor. How about a larger rotor with enough material cut away so it is extremely light. What about a rotor with more magnets on it or Thicker magnets so the motoring is stronger. Worst case, you use some of the power from One of the gen coils to run one coil as a motor coil. Since they are the MOST efficient motor coils possible, what then?

Do you see why I wanted HELP with this project? There is just TOO MUCH to explore here and I can’t do it all myself. So I brought it here and NOBODY is building it.
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So true, the collective army of youth coming over the hill.
Let's go boys. Reminds me of the first time I searched for Dave Lawton
to ask him a question and he had been long gone years ago.

Nothing lasts forever even tho most people think so.

Yes yes I would like to here more about these multi-coils. You say you
have some experience motoring and generating? Maybe the coil is the
same? Hum..? Well I must admit I have never plugged one into power
to see what it does.

Not sure where to start but guessing use any pickup method you like to
setup a triggering circuit to fire the coils when the magnet comes around?

How did I do? Do I get my picture on the cover of the ROLLING STONE?
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Hi all, Thanks for sharing the videos mike, I'll keep an eye on your channel.
Thanks for sharing that information turion, maybe after I get some experience with the generator coil aspect.

I've wired 12 coil strands in series so far and brought the rpm up to probably 1200-1400 rpm.
I'm noticing now when shorting the series coil, it is not bogging down as much, whereas with 1-6 coils in series, it was bogging hard.
Will continue the experiment.
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And here's the latest pic with wires all labeled and with end protectors, messy.

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Hi all, At number 24 coil strand, when shorted, it is slowing down much less than at 12 coil strands, probably 50-60% less bogging, than at 12 strands.

I tested the 24 coil strands at 1725 rpm.
Also, the gap from permanent magnet to core is about 1/8".
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A coil with 1 strand 2,400' long with a potential of 100v on it would have a capacity of 27,756. Three strands each 800' long in parallel with 100v on it would have 202,500 (7.3 times as much).


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Hi all, At number 24 coil strand, when shorted, it is slowing down much less than at 12 coil strands, probably 50-60% less bogging, than at 12 strands.

I tested the 24 coil strands at 1725 rpm.
Also, the gap from permanent magnet to core is about 1/8".
peace love light
See that data is worth it's weight in gold added to the present information
at 2800 rpm's. (960ft and your are almost at the null for such a low speed.

Very exciting to me. Of course the number of magnet poles matters. i
think the more magnets on a rotor the sooner the null will be reach at a low RPM. Good gap too, great work to advance this research.

Thane is running 3700rpm most of the time however has shown a few
instances of slight speed up (Null Point) at lower than 3600 rpm but he is
switching off the current yet still generating and motoring at the same
time.

For just a simple setup using rotor and coils shows us a lot to start with.

Maybe at strand 30? Complete null with slight speed up?

Keep us on the edge Sky.
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A coil with 1 strand 2,400' long with a potential of 100v on it would have a capacity of 27,756. Three strands each 800' long in parallel with 100v on it would have 202,500 (7.3 times as much).


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hey Turion

Wow on the difference of capacity. Or Capacitance? I'm not the sharpest
knife in the drawer on what the 7X figure can do to this. I wonder if you
might run Sky's figures of 24 stands of 40 ft each?

Forget the nay-sayers, they are oblivious. maybe I will try that calculator
myself.

NOTE: I could not calculate the coil using that calculator here is another
but not multifilar

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The number of magnets on the rotor has everything to do with coil output but NOTHING to do with speed up under load. I was wrong about that. The Degree of increase in acceleration under load may be determined by how many magnets you have, but whether it happens or not depends on one magnet moving from point “a” to point “b” to cause the necessary timing.

The reaction in the coil core is caused by a single moving magnet. It must move at the right speed or frequency for that coil.
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The number of magnets on the rotor has everything to do with coil output but NOTHING to do with speed up under load.
My mistake. I am mixing up he 24 generator patent data mixed in. 2 pole
is 3600 rpm and 4 pole is 1750rpm and as conventional generators add
poles up to 24 poles the generator rpm's is way lower but has nothing to
do with speed up.

my mistake.
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I made that mistake and gave out false information. So YOU probably got it from ME. My fAULT. Because I got more output I somehow believed more magnets made a difference in whether or not it would speed up under load.
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Hi all, up to 40 coil strands and just about lenz neutral at 1725-1950 rpm, barely perceptible slow down by ear when series coil shorted.
I don't want to go much beyond 2000 rpm, as you see the rotor I have.
Will connect the rest in series and see how she goes.
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I made that mistake and gave out false information. So YOU probably got it from ME. My fAULT.
Naw, I never listen to you, you know that, all those long boring excerpts

Thx man, wide shoulders, just like a good teacher covering for his students.
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Hi all, up to 40 coil strands and just about lenz neutral at 1725-1950 rpm, barely perceptible slow down by ear when series coil shorted.
I don't want to go much beyond 2000 rpm, as you see the rotor I have.
Will connect the rest in series and see how she goes.
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You must be careful yes. You could put up a barrier, temporary. The main
thing is keeping you in one piece.

Okay 2000 rmp's 40 strands X 40 ft long each, hummm..............

40 X 40 = 1600ft so for such a slow speed maybe your rotor is okay?

Your rotor is doing the job just fine for this test. Looks like your rotor
magnets are long so as the surfaces come close to the core material
on one end of the magnet it pulls away then come back again to the 1/8"
gap. Those are slight mechanical difficulties that will be easily remedied
with a little brainstorming next time you want to dream.

Not bad for a tape job setup, shows what we never knew for sure and
needed to get time to try. Made my day. Besides who wants a gold
plated rotor for a single test that is going in the pile anyway?

Dang i can't get over it, For such a slow speed you would normally need
about 2500ft of wire but with a million strands (feels like million) put in
series brings it way down. Good going chief, you just took the charge.
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Hi all, finished testing the series connection with this 51 strand coil, yes it was 51 after all, when first labeling, I marked 2 strands with the same number.

So, unfortunately, at the 1950 rpm and maybe a little bit higher, it is just slightly bogging when shorted, increases around 10 milliamps or so with amp meter connected.
Guess I should have made it 60 strands.
I wonder if increasing the magnet to core gap might help give a lower rpm delay.
Mike, I notice you have quite a bit of core material, between your magnets and where the coil sits on the core in the videos you posted, that alone is probably helping create a delay.

On my coil/core, there is only a 1/4" of core sticking out from where the coil sits, the 1/4" high density board and then the 1/8" core gap.
I'm not sure how many rpm's this rotor can go, before being unsafe, any ideas.
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Are you using weak ceramic magnets?

I noticed with my strong neo's my speed up took longer or more strands
if at all, well noticeably only when I had a tight gap. Mine is 1/16" now.

The stronger magnets do help. Remember I asked you about your long
magnets taped on the circular shape? Guessing of course but educated.
Long block ceramics will not allow you to keep your gap consistent
throughout the entire surface. This arrangement will give an 1/8" gap on
each end of the magnet but in the center might be wider.

Am I right?
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Here is what I am saying Sky

Even with my very very strong neo's (super strong) if my gap got to
wide the noticeable effect was missing. There is definitely a gap to
strength of magnet to core relationship that will pronounce the effect.

When I dropped back my gap to 3/16" the speed up effect was very tiny
even at 3000rpm's at 2890ft or 17 strands of 170foot lengths. The "C"
gives me 2 poles of interaction at the same time and a place for flux
relief but does not cause the effect nor does the core length change
the delay mechanically enough.

Maybe a 6" extension might do something but for now I will say no.
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Turion,
as far as wire sizes,
I bought 57 pounds of #19 wire because of a mistype someone else did.
the experiment still failed like all the other reproductions
I suggest calculating out wire sizes, frequencies and what wire will deal with what on your own.
do all the engineering for yourself before you buy or build or buy anything
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Hi mike, thanks for the replies.
The rotor has 1" diameter x 1/8" thick neos.
The 1/8" magnet to core gap is with the rotor stopped and flush, when turned, the edge of the magnet is about 1/16" gap.
I'm giving this some thought and looking at turions 'your basic coil' thread again.
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Okay Sky my mistake, I didn't realize they were neo's but you are
on the right track. You could always add a few more strands fairly easy
using the same method.

Run 9 more in the yard and lay those next to the others. My neo's have
a huge pull force at 1" long around 45-50 lbs they are 1/2" dia. like i said
even with all that force (which I needed) if I didn't get as close as possible
the effect was greatly reduced. So strong that at low speeds the rotor will
growl for all the torsion but as the rotor picked up rpm's much less
pounding. Lots of stress there. That's where my magic was.

It seems like the greater the pull the better the effect was for me. Maybe
you could go to 1\2" magnets or less and get a better response. I think
that big core need a little more flux. Course tape won't hold'em.

I'll bet bigger magnets would drop the number of strands for you.

Your magnet has 3X less pull force than mine but both of us have about
the same core size. Of course you know as you make a gap the force is
much reduced and in your case might be leaving you on the short end.

Still you are within 10ma from the null. That's better than everyone else
looking for the extra energy. Most won't even try.

Great exploration I'd say.For all practical purposes you are there.

I looked more closely at the details, you have a 3.75" dia rotor mine is 9" so
my magnets must travel much faster to get around the circle.

2*pie*r = circumference so 2*3.14 = 6.28 * 1.875 = 11.775" of travel with each
rotation. At 2000rpm's we can say 2000 X 11.775 = 23,550" per minute

We can also go to feet per second.

On the other hand a 9" dia where my magnets sit comes out 2*pie*r or
6.28 X 4.5 = 28.26" for each rotation and at 2000 rpm's comes to

2000 X 28.26 = 56,520" per minute but instead I am running 3000 rpm or

3000 X 28.26 = 84,780" per minute. Over 3X more distance is traveled

All of this plays a roll. Turion's dia is huge. My magnets are at 80mph

Your magnets are moving at 22 mph and is a safe speed for tape.



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Hi mike, thanks for the helpful information.

I made the gap a little tighter on the magnet to core gap.
Also, I'm building a protective shield (dome) around the rotor using 1/2" high density board, to keep the water, oh I mean the rotor magnets from removing me from this realm.

Then I can feel better about increasing the rpm's to a higher level.
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Hi all, finished the protective shield.
Not feeling the greatest at the moment, when I feel a little better I will test this at higher rpm's.
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Hi all, finished the protective shield.
Not feeling the greatest at the moment, when I feel a little better I will test this at higher rpm's.
peace love light

Very good and greetings, you've been working very hard, well that you take your precautions, commented that an occasion with a bedini engine that was testing, the magnet went off, of luck was next to and not in front, I pass twice, it was very the speed of the bedini that one of the magnets gave off, thank God nothing serious happened,
thanks to all who contribute and guide, here and seen two users who know a lot and guide, BroMikey, Turion

and share their knowledge thanks to them and others.
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Hi all, finished the protective shield.
Not feeling the greatest at the moment, when I feel a little better I will test this at higher rpm's.
peace love light

Good idea. We all had the croup here for weeks. These grain elevators
and stuff in the air (GMO bioweapons=Monsantos DNA mod's) just cough
till you barf.

Anyway

Great shield, I did that also as you can see in the video, Thane did it, only
one who didn't was Turion, he got shot with a magnet I think in the foot.
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