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Old 07-19-2019, 02:27 PM
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Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe (Forgotten Books) Paperback – December 28, 2007
by Samuel Birley Rowbotham (Author)

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"Samuel Birley Rowbotham, under the pseudonym 'Parallax', lectured for two decades up and down Britain promoting his unique flat earth theory. This book, in which he lays out his world system, went through three editions, starting with a 16 page pamphlet published in 1849 and a second edition of 221 pages published in 1865. The third edition of 1881 (which had inflated to 430 pages) was used as the basis of this etext.

Rowbotham was an accomplished debater who reputedly steamrollered all opponents, and his followers, who included many well-educated people, were equally tenacious. One of them, John Hampden, got involved in a bet with the famous naturalist Alfred Russel Wallace about the flat earth. An experiment which Hampden proposed didn't resolve the issue, and the two ended up in court in 1876. The judge ruled against Hampton, who started a long campaign of legal harassment of Wallace. Rowbotham hints at the incident in this book.

Rowbotham believed that the earth is flat. The contients float on an infinite ocean which somehow has a layer of fire underneath it. The lands we know are surrounded by an infinite wilderness of ice and snow, beyond the Antarctic ocean, bordered by an immense circular ice-cliff. What we call the North Pole is in the center of the earth.

The polar projection of the flat earth creates obvious discrepancies with known geography, particularly the farther south you go. Figure 54 inadvertantly illustrates this problem. The Zetetic map has a severly squashed South America and Africa, and Australia and New Zealand in the middle of the Pacific. I think that by the 19th century people would have noticed if Australia and Africa were thousands of miles further apart than expected, let alone if Africa was wider than it was long!
Here's a link to the full text of said book:

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Science is an enormously successful human enterprise. The study of scientific method is the attempt to discern the activities by which that success is achieved. Among the activities often identified as characteristic of science are systematic observation and experimentation, inductive and deductive reasoning, and the formation and testing of hypotheses and theories. How these are carried out in detail can vary greatly, but characteristics like these have been looked to as a way of demarcating scientific activity from non-science, where only enterprises which employ some canonical form of scientific method or methods should be considered science (see also the entry on science and pseudo-science). On the other hand, more recent debate has questioned whether there is anything like a fixed toolkit of methods which is common across science and only science.
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Reply to the Anti-gravity Thread Bull Shyt

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"On Bull**** is a 1986 essay, reprinted as a 2005 book, by philosopher Harry G. Frankfurt
which presents a theory of bull**** that defines the concept and analyzes the applications of bull**** in the context of communication.
Frankfurt determines that bull**** is speech intended to persuade without regard for truth.
The liar cares about the truth and attempts to hide it;
the bull****ter doesn't care if what they say is true or false,
but rather only cares whether their listener is persuaded.
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"Alberto Brandolini, an Italian programmer, the bull**** asymmetry principle (also known as Brandolini's law[14][15]) states that:
The amount of energy needed to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
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Most certainly, the following video shows how ballers push their BS by using philosophy and not the scientific method.



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Jesuits Erasing Our Flat Earth.
The New Testament of the "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last" implies that the Earth is round therefore,
haw culd day, sync der r over 1,500,000,000 mahomedans?


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The New Testament.. ..implies that the Earth is round
Actually, it doesn't.

"And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree." Revelation 7:1 (KJV)

Balls don't have corners.
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ever seen a line map ?
they are crude maps that tell you what road to take to get somewhere,
distances are usually not included,
this sort of thing was common long ago as they work, and better maps are harder to make.
referring to the 4 corners of the earth likely refereed to the outer edges of a line map...
to think that the idea of a line map, and a common reference to them proved a flat earth is just sad.
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https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclo...p1=3333&p2=737

The distance from Barrow, Alaska, to Longyearbyen, Svalbard, according to the above web site is, 2,111 miles.

But look how it is calculated.



So, instead, of plotting a direct course over the globe, they plot the distance from from West to East on a longitudinal course.

Why is that?

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ever seen a line map ?
they are crude maps that tell you what road to take to get somewhere,
distances are usually not included,
this sort of thing was common long ago as they work, and better maps are harder to make.
referring to the 4 corners of the earth likely refereed to the outer edges of a line map...
to think that the idea of a line map, and a common reference to them proved a flat earth is just sad.
This is the map that the military uses: Universal Transverse Mercator Coordinate System Map.



Mappa Militare UTM conferma, la: Terra Piatta-QUADRATA.. (Sub: 100%) [by, freeanergy] - YouTube

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This is the Universal Transverse Mercator Coordinate System Map. This is what the military uses to calculate distances from one point on the Earth to another point on the Earth.



They don't use a globe.

That's for you to use.

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You can't have gas pressure without a container. Obviously.
False, fluid always generates hydrostatic pressure on the round Earth of the New Testament, which varies with depth, even under the "Bible's flat earth dome".


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False, fluid always generates hydrostatic pressure on the round Earth of the New Testament, which varies with depth, even under the Bible's flat earth dome
Ipse dixit.

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Ipse dixit is an assertion without proof; or a dogmatic expression of opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipse_dixit
Without a citation or source provided, it's just your unsubstantiated claim. Making a declaration of your own beliefs doesn't make it so in reality.

You can't have gas pressure without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on.



If you remove the barrier between the two compartments, the gas in one compartment would rapidly fill the compartment with the vacuum.

That is part of the nature of gas.

Second Law of Thermodynamics

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fluid always generates hydrostatic pressure
Do you mean a gas or a liquid?

Without clarity, it's an equivocation fallacy.

What are you talking about?

Prove it.

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on the round Earth of the New Testament
What are you talking about?

Prove it.

Cite the scriptures.

Balls don't have corners.

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which varies with depth
That argument has been tried before.

You can't have a gas pressure gradient without gas pressure. You can't have gas pressure without a container.

Is there any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on?

No, of course not.

A liquid is different from a gas. The two act differently.

You're committing an equivocation fallacy, also known as, doublespeak.

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Using an ambiguous term in more than one sense, thus making an argument misleading.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...1/Equivocation

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even under the Bible's flat earth dome
What?

What are you talking about?

Show me one verse in scripture where the term "dome" is used to refer to the sky.

The correct scriptural term is firmament, which means expanse in Hebrew.

The Hebrew word is pronounced rā·qî·a‘.

Nothing is stated as to the shape of the expanse.

So, in terms of a logical fallacy, your use to the term "dome" is another instance of ipse dixit.

You have supplied no evidence scriptural or otherwise for the term "dome."

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Ipse dixit is an assertion without proof; or a dogmatic expression of opinion.
Your use of the term is misleading.

You're trying to create a straw man fallacy.

I am simply asking, "Is there any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on?"

And, the answer is no.

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Is there any evidence of gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas to press on?

No, of course not.

A liquid is different from a gas. The two act differently.
Everyday pressure measurements, such as for vehicle tire pressure, are usually made relative to ambient air pressure. In other cases measurements are made relative to a vacuum or to some other specific reference. When distinguishing between these zero references, the following terms are used:

Absolute pressure is zero-referenced against a perfect vacuum, using an absolute scale, so it is equal to gauge pressure plus atmospheric pressure.
Gauge pressure is zero-referenced against ambient air pressure, so it is equal to absolute pressure minus atmospheric pressure. Negative signs are usually omitted.[citation needed] To distinguish a negative pressure, the value may be appended with the word "vacuum" or the gauge may be labeled a "vacuum gauge". These are further divided into two subcategories: high and low vacuum (and sometimes ultra-high vacuum). The applicable pressure ranges of many of the techniques used to measure vacuums have an overlap. Hence, by combining several different types of gauge, it is possible to measure system pressure continuously from 10 mbar down to 10−11 mbar.
Differential pressure is the difference in pressure between two points.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_measurement

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What is absolute water pressure 10 meters below sea level?
What is absolute air pressure at sea level and 2.4 miles deep gold mine?


Fluid statics or hydrostatics is the branch of fluid mechanics that studies "fluids at rest and the pressure in a fluid or exerted by a fluid on an immersed body".[1]

It encompasses the study of the conditions under which fluids are at rest in stable equilibrium as opposed to fluid dynamics, the study of fluids in motion. Hydrostatics are categorized as a part of the fluid statics, which is the study of all fluids, incompressible or not, at rest.

Hydrostatics is fundamental to hydraulics, the engineering of equipment for storing, transporting and using fluids. It is also relevant to geophysics and astrophysics (for example, in understanding plate tectonics and the anomalies of the Earth's gravitational field), to meteorology, to medicine (in the context of blood pressure), and many other fields.

Hydrostatics offers physical explanations for many phenomena of everyday life, such as why atmospheric pressure changes with altitude, why wood and oil float on water, and why the surface of still water is always level.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatics


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What phenomena is responsible for the hydrostatic pressure of the atmosphere and hydrosphere?
What phenomena keeps the atmosphere and hydrosphere on the Earth?



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Equivocation fallacy.

My question was relating to air pressure, not water pressure.

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What is absolute air pressure at sea level and 2.4 miles deep gold mine?
Where is this gold mine that is 2.4 miles deep? What is its exact location? If you can't give me its exact location, then it appears that you are committing a red herring fallacy.

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What phenomena is responsible for the hydrostatic pressure..
Are you claiming that hydrostatic pressure is a phenomena in nature?

Where do you observe hydrostatic pressure in nature?

And how is hydrostatic pressure a phenomena in nature?

If you are making that claim, how are you demonstrating it?

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..of the atmosphere and hydrosphere?
at what altitude?

at what depth?

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What phenomena keeps the atmosphere and hydrosphere on the Earth?
Can you have gas pressure existing next to a vacuum without a barrier separating the two?

Without a barrier to separate gas pressure from a vacuum, the gas pressure would fill the area containing the vacuum.

Is there any evidence for gas pressure existing without the necessary antecedent of a container for the gas pressure to press on?

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Do you mean force?

That would be the same force that keeps you on Earth.

Remember that Einstein said that gravity is not a force.

Remember that Einsteinian gravity theory has superseded Newtonian gravity theory.

You have to stick with Einsteinian gravity theory now.

So, you can't say that gravity is a force.

Both theories are wrong, of course.

But you have to stick with Einsteinian gravity theory.
Are you referring to relative density equilibrium and disequilibrium?

By the way, relative density disequilibrium is a force until equilibrium is achieved.

I already explained it in a previous post.

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The image is of a 5-Tube Galileo Thermometer



You have a certain amount of a liquid sealed in a vile within a tube filled with liquid.

You can not increase the amount of liquid sealed in a vile.

What then causes the vile to rise or lower?

How does an increase in temperature affect the liquid in the vile?

Does not the relative density of each vile changes with temperature?

What comprises the mass, density and volume of each vile?

1. Glass vile.

2. Liquid in glass vile.

3. Gas in glass vile.

4. Metal temperature tag, which displays the current air temperature.

which is density-relative to

the liquid that the vile is in.

The temperature is the independent variable.

How do you control temperature?

Easy. Turn on a space heater, for one.

Relative Density Equilibrium
How does temperature affect the relative density of an ampoule and cause it to be in either in a state of relative density equilibrium while the ampoule is stationary or to be in a state of relative density disequilibrium while the ampoule is either moving up or down?

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VIDBID, answer the above question.


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How to undo brainwashing.

You undo brainwashing by questioning everything, including what you believe and why you believe it.

Learn to think critically.

Watch Robert Kiyosaki.

1. Money

2. Debt

3. Taxes



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Rich people don't work for money.

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That applies in all areas.

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I'm not a fully fledged flat earther myself, but I do luv the way you guys take the mickey out of modern theioreical science. And as far as I have seen the only refutation to some pretty fundamental questions involves insults and name calling.

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I'm not a fully fledged flat earther myself, but I do luv the way you guys take the mickey out of modern theioreical science. And as far as I have seen the only refutation to some pretty fundamental questions involves insults and name calling.

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Ad hominem and name-calling are the lowest levels of disagreement. An emotional arguments can never overcome a truly objective argument.



Most, if not all, baller arguments are based on logical fallacies.

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Nevermind.

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Hope you guys haven’t given up on this.
I pretty much gave up

here is something fun on topic.
I don't usually watch movies, but this one is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJi3_znm7ZE
what gets me is that in the math they end up looking at the 8th dimension as the key.
this matches what others like wilbert smith talked about.
and if you look at the lower dimensions that they don't cover in this movie, like the 6th dimension that is curled up on itself, they just don't get that this is magnetism, and the 5th is what we see as electricity.
they figured it all out in the math, but have yet to relate it back to what we see in our world.
to bad they will likely never have this idea told to them.
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I pretty much gave up

here is something fun on topic.
I don't usually watch movies, but this one is good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJi3_znm7ZE
what gets me is that in the math they end up looking at the 8th dimension as the key.
this matches what others like wilbert smith talked about.
and if you look at the lower dimensions that they don't cover in this movie, like the 6th dimension that is curled up on itself, they just don't get that this is magnetism, and the 5th is what we see as electricity.
they figured it all out in the math, but have yet to relate it back to what we see in our world.
to bad they will likely never have this idea told to them.
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A pair of light or sound waves will experience interference when they pass through each other. The individual waves will add together (superposition) so that a new wavefront is created.

Destructive interference occurs when the maxima of two waves are 180 degrees out of phase: a positive displacement of one wave is cancelled exactly by a negative displacement of the other wave. The amplitude of the resulting wave is zero.

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sticking his nose as far as is possible into the business of others because he has no original thoughts of his own. He never shows up to present anything new. Only magically appears to detract, distract, discredit, provoke, or otherwise impede any kind of progress on any thread on the forum. But at least he has a purpose.
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