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Ready to pass out now so must comment later but even without viewing the offensive video I believe I understand what your up to so beware and be on guard: Snort~
Looks interesting BTW but really I need to take a time out before I get in trouble and am actually made to take a time out.
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please delete your post and move it to the North - South thread,
where you get more exposure (over 14,000 views since my last post) because,
Gambier should also take into account the Milky Way traveling in the "super fluid" / aether,
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Let me clarify the concept of 'field', obviously its my opinion and in no way the definitive answer to this subject.
A field like described in conventional physics is a region of space interested by line of forces , the flux of these lines can be divergent or convergent calcualted respect a closed surface.
My experiments showed me that :
There is no field, only particle movement.
Magnetic 'field' is always present , it is composed of particles , the electrons moving force the magnetrons to swirls around , just like a paddle in the water, magnetrons always close the circuit generated by the electron movement, ( so no free energy motor, at least based on magnetics in my opinion ).
All matter is magnetized, because of electron spinning, an electron spinning and not moving does not causes magnetic field, an electron moving at constnat speed generates a static magnetic field, and electron accellerating causes a wave, we call electromagnetic. The electric and magnetic field can exist separated by electron mass, which apparently current electromagnetic propagation theory doesn not even consider. Gravitational field is orthogonal to electric and magnetic field, and is the variation of an electromagnetic pulse, a time derivatie of the Poyintg vector.
A definitive answer which explains a field is that a field is an omnipresent condition. A true field is one which is literally everywhere at all time. It is thought that the field which makes magnetism possible everywhere at all times is akin to a super fluid and is referred to as counter-space. Magnetism can be reproduced anywhere because it is part of a true field. Quasi fields are local and or temporal conditions; omnipresent within defined states.

Whether a magnetic field is static or moving may be understood as one useful way of seeing magnetic influence an interactions.

If electrons existed they would possess a constant motivated by the velocity of a permeating field and made variable by alterations in the Larmor Frequency.
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where you get more exposure (over 14,000 views since my last post) because,
Gambier should also take into account the Milky Way traveling in the "super fluid" / aether,
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please delete your post and move it to the North - South thread,
where you get more exposure (over 14,000 views since my last post) because,
Gambier should also take into account the Milky Way traveling in the "super fluid" / aether,
thanks, Al.
I'm afraid I'm a victim of the pandemic piss ant tunnel vision virus.

I should take that into account but alas I'm a piss ant whose tunnel vision hasn't allowed such a wild idea to be considered:Inconceivable, why I've barely moved outside the front door, let alone left the Milkyway, and never to consider such a notion, let alone to ponder what the ramifications might be.

Seriously I would need help to have any clue what that might mean at my level of reality but you are entirely correct and right.
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Utron uses mechanical rotation not for lifting, but for accumulating static charge, cone or pyramid doesn't make much mechanical difference, its a matte of capacitance, when the cones or pyramids pass trhough the big coils, they get energized and the current induced is accumulated in the center.
Its a form of lifter, but as long as the rotation goes, the charge in the center increases.
But UTRON is made of 2 cones joined at their bases. If you look at diagram.
Only that it won't say if they are solid cones or wired.
I am still far away from that stage and in my place this is a bit risky to do.
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I have built a small otis carr disc in 2012 , the rotation hollow pyramids were made of alluminium, after the initial startup, the machine went into stationary speed, after 15 minutes , the central capacitor started to ozonize(sp??) the air surrounding to a considerable distance, electric devices like mobile phone started to behave erratically after 30 minutes a dark corona effetc started to appear in a 2.5 meter range, after 60 minutes , the machine was levitating like a baloon in water.
I concluded that the electric charge changes the grip of an object in to this reality moving in a lesser dense state where things are lighter and are easily movable with a gentle push
Mine are not conjecture, i always build before i make claims

Ignore my other post about Utrons. I missed this reply.
If you built Otis carr model - may I ask why here is no picture or video of it any where?
If it because due to the fact that it makes electronic gear go hey wire it was impossible to film or photograph it?

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Is it possible to make a photo of it sill or is it now gone?

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If you don't mind I would like to ask you a few questions about your version of set up.
If you do mind you can always say you will not answer them. It is cool


1. How big was your model? Diameter etc.

2. You said you used Aluminum pyramids. Was it just single pyramid on axle or was those 2 pyramids joined at the base like Utrons on original diagram?

3. Did you covered pyramids with a dielectric coating or were they just solid metal?

4. That central capacitor - was it also just a pyramid or something else?

5. According to the ori's diagram and some explanation - here are 3 rotational axles.
First - All Utrons can spin independently from each other
Second - The frame on which they are fixed can also spin independently
Third - That central capacitor can spin independently from Utrons and from frame on which they are fixed.
My question is - how true is that? Was it different when you tested it?
Or did you had that many individual motors to do everything separately?
That be 12 motors for utrons, may be 2-3 for frame and 1-2 for central capacitor.

I am asking those to clear up some blank spaces and for a possible replication.
Yes, we are discussing Alexe's device here.
Well, We did before

But as we all know that device has a set of settings that look like to be very hard to replicate. So, I am looking at alternatives.

Also I forgot 1 more

6. What equipment did you used to start it up? Just a power source to power motors or something else?

Levitating like balloon on water - you mean it become weightless, but didn't actually taken off the table or what ever surface it was sitting on?

Perhaps it needed a little more speed. Or something else to fly.
But even that already SUPER EXCELLENT ACHIEVEMENT

The point of my questions also to try to understand how SIMPLIFIED this could be. Do we need entire factory to make such device, or we can do it in the garage-level place.

I would appropriate very much if you would answer.
But if not - that is fine.

A dark corona appeared. Do you mean that like a dark cloud that emanating from it? Like if it was at the center of a black hole and this ''cloud'' like event horizon emanating from it? Perhaps it was absorbing all visible light and converting it to a power source for itself?

Which brings us to final question

7. Have you noticed any drop in power feed? Which means it began to be self=-powered.

While a lot here would love a self-powered item like motor or such I would not. Because if it goes self-powered then you loose control of it. You can control any device by power feed to it. And thus you making sure it would not be like a run away train without breaks. Once you loose control - you loose the breaks. And then it could accelerate into anything and self-destruct when material stress gets too high.
Or like in case of anti-gravity item - it could fly away and not come back.



I think those are all now
I wait for answer if you decide to answer
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now consider a density tower..

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Interesting points you are making. I'm trying to process how to cross apply the general concept considering the aether as a superfluid which, far as we know, penetrates all known matter.
I must think on this for a while considering Earth as a rather unruly giant magnet. Hmm...meanwhile, I sort of get what aljhoa is trying to steer me to see, I'm just not sure that I understand it well enough just yet, but see there's more to all this and that's a matter of time and precognition. Humans can only see backwards in time and that has to be associated with how this all works; in other words, it would seem to have direct connections to phase shift as a condition of astrophysics.

In the UFO HD Image I posted you can clearly make out several features which surround the vehicle. There's bubbles and there's this blue light; a common enough artifact of UFO's. This red and blue light is visible in the magnetic field as a phase shift, but the issue is whether the vehicle is moving through space or time? I have to study this more. Seems like we are finally finding out that the so-called make believe chrono~visor might not have been quite as fictional as it's made out to be.

On the matter of physical balloons;

In 1670, a Jesuit Monk, Francis Lana, suggested an aircraft based on the principle of creating vacuum balloons in his book Prodromo dell'Arte Maestra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_airship

Space is a vacuum, or at least near outer space is, and that's validated by a few people who've sent balloons with video onboard up to near space, or low orbit. Their balloons kept rising and only came back to earth once the balloon burst. You can see in those video that as the atmospheric pressure gives way the balloon expands till it bursts.

An obvious solution would be to have the balloon inside a very fine net which would prevent the balloon from expanding beyond it's design limit. You wouldn't think it would be all that difficult to rig up and so I have to wonder why no one has yet to try setting up their own satellite system. Spy on the spys, unmask Google Earth for example, find out if the planet is flat or a disgusting bloated beach ball.
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On the matter of physical balloons;

In 1670, a Jesuit Monk, Francis Lana, suggested an aircraft based on the principle of creating vacuum balloons in his book Prodromo dell'Arte Maestra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_airship


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OK, so now maybe we get moving with something more important while you dink around with junk science and it's claims of how things work.

This

is found here
https://www.inverse.com/article/2657...-ufo-sightings

While a High Def Image is here; Which you might seriously consider saving BTW.
https://fsmedia.imgix.net/ea/d4/8e/7...from-1958.jpeg

This may be the most informative UFO photo ever taken from what I have seen. It is super HD. It is clearly showing a phase shift and other artifacts as well.
I don't know where this came from. I used tin eye to reverse the search an it shows up in 2014 with the release of CIA Ufo documents. That's all I know, but
it would be hard to deny this is not a real image since it has a some highly visible fields which are clearly connected to EM phase shift.
As much as I'm sure there are real UFO's and ET's visiting us I take exception to that photo as being a real UFO. With a strong background in photography it looks like nothing but enhanced lens flare. Notice how bright the ground lights are (probably taken at night with the camera shutter open at least 1 or 2 seconds and possibly much longer) and notice how bright of a light seems to be emanating from the lower left side of the picture - directly in line and perpendicular to the object. Looks very much like lens flare from the strong light that is just outside of the picture. A photo showing that much light from the buildings at night has to have a fairly long exposure so if that was a UFO it would have had to be stationary for some time. My opinion ...
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Haven't read the whole thread here but just found this book as a download from OU forum that may be of interest if it hasn't been mentioned here before:

http://avalonlibrary.net/Nikola_Tesl...Propulsion.pdf

Book by Paul LaViolette Ph.D. : Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, Tesla, UFO's and Classified Aerospace Technology.
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That's a great find. Also kind of crazy how this dovetails with recent events. I'm no expert but just maybe there already is a suitable brick like material. Off hand I think I see some fingerprints of the self proclaimed rulers associated with this concept.

"Instead of making the walls of the Vacuum Balloon in a unique round piece, which will be inevitably very thin, if we would use many hollow bricks, like the ones used for buildings, and then we fill them with foam or another ultra-light material, we would obtain a 360° vaulted structure, that, according to the principles on which the Roman arch is built, would be resistant and able to effectively counter the Buckling."

So I was researching something or other and stumbled in on a discussion over at the enemy camp about the Karl Schappeller Device. This is well worth reading.
https://overunity.com/13140/karl-sch...-his-electret/

So back in 2012 it was discovered that a new and improved Aerogel could be made from rice husks, but of course rice husks are slightly difficult to work with, but there were two other options which included thistle and tobacco.

Dept of Chemistry at Universiti Teknologi Malaysia patent on silica aerogels.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7897648B2/en

Next thing ya know we have the Economist Magazine broadcasting the death of smoking with an article about the Marlboro Man riding in to the sunset, after which has come horrendous taxation's on tobacco under the guise of a public service, along with a mass mind control media blitz on the horror which await smokers. Hmmm....suddenly they care this much huh?
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As much as I'm sure there are real UFO's and ET's visiting us I take exception to that photo as being a real UFO. With a strong background in photography it looks like nothing but enhanced lens flare. Notice how bright the ground lights are (probably taken at night with the camera shutter open at least 1 or 2 seconds and possibly much longer) and notice how bright of a light seems to be emanating from the lower left side of the picture - directly in line and perpendicular to the object. Looks very much like lens flare from the strong light that is just outside of the picture. A photo showing that much light from the buildings at night has to have a fairly long exposure so if that was a UFO it would have had to be stationary for some time. My opinion ...
Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying this to be an intentional jackass. Trust me you will know when or if that is my intention. Basically you are making conjectures without enough knowledge of what you're actually looking at. I know it all seems sound to you. We all do this, it's our nature, I do the same thing constantly myself but you're stretching the limits of creditable imagination which would never hold up to cross examination in a court room because you're making conjectures based on what you know about photography, and specifically photography of everyday objects, and not conjectures based on a knowledge of photography in conjunction with a knowledge and appreciation for the magnetic field in association with ideas about how a UFO could operate. Those are very significant differences which would greatly change the dynamics of what various cameras might capture.

We aren't looking to explain away the evidence. Just imagine trying to solve a crime with that modus operandi. Evidence may explain away something else but we do not generally try to explain away the evidence itself as a random error.

The image appears to be in motion. There is a blue light indicating a phase shift in the Larmor Frequency, and the issue I personally have is where it's traveling from and not so much how it is traveling. In other words, is it moving through time? The phase shift colors in the magnetic field are red and blue. When you see blue you're looking at one end of a field and conversely when you see red you're seeing another end of the field. Red and Blue are associated with expansion and contraction by some people in regards to whether light is moving towards us or away from us. Some animals can see this phase shift coloration. Evidently it's thought that with the animals that can see the magnetic spectrum of light that it's associated with migration skills. For us the question is are we seeing a time traveler arriving? At least that would be one of my questions based on what I think I understand and can see in the image.

Now to suggest that what is in the image are artifacts of photography when they can be cross correlated with repeatable known data and demonstrated facts surrounding the magnetic field shows you do not understand what you either are viewing or could potentially be viewing. This, and when taken into account that those objections must be combined with the mathematical odds for all of them to join together from singular points, so as to coincide all at the same time to support your point of view, would alone stretch creditable belief all by themselves if presented to a jury, or at least a good attorney could make a lot of hay out it.

Now of course we aren't in a courtroom. The point is to remember, you're not looking at a chair, an airplane, or any other ordinary object. The object makes light, magnetic fields, and very likely some other things as well. If it were to be a fraud then it would have to come from someone with a considerable appreciation of what they were faking and with a specific idea behind it. It positively would not be random chance. I grant you it looks odd alright and there's a reason for it that I think goes considerably beyond photographic artifacts.
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Interesting points you are making. I'm trying to process how to cross apply the general concept considering the aether as a superfluid which, far as we know, penetrates all known matter.
I must think on this for a while considering Earth as a rather unruly giant magnet. Hmm...meanwhile, I sort of get what aljhoa is trying to steer me to see, I'm just not sure that I understand it well enough just yet, but see there's more to all this and that's a matter of time and precognition. Humans can only see backwards in time and that has to be associated with how this all works; in other words, it would seem to have direct connections to phase shift as a condition of astrophysics.

In the UFO HD Image I posted you can clearly make out several features which surround the vehicle. There's bubbles and there's this blue light; a common enough artifact of UFO's. This red and blue light is visible in the magnetic field as a phase shift, but the issue is whether the vehicle is moving through space or time? I have to study this more. Seems like we are finally finding out that the so-called make believe chrono~visor might not have been quite as fictional as it's made out to be.

On the matter of physical balloons;

In 1670, a Jesuit Monk, Francis Lana, suggested an aircraft based on the principle of creating vacuum balloons in his book Prodromo dell'Arte Maestra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_airship

Space is a vacuum, or at least near outer space is, and that's validated by a few people who've sent balloons with video onboard up to near space, or low orbit. Their balloons kept rising and only came back to earth once the balloon burst. You can see in those video that as the atmospheric pressure gives way the balloon expands till it bursts.

An obvious solution would be to have the balloon inside a very fine net which would prevent the balloon from expanding beyond it's design limit. You wouldn't think it would be all that difficult to rig up and so I have to wonder why no one has yet to try setting up their own satellite system. Spy on the spys, unmask Google Earth for example, find out if the planet is flat or a disgusting bloated beach ball.
Is your claim gravity is holding in the atmosphere of the earth and preventing said atmosphere from escaping into the vacuum of space?

Are you saying that you can have gas pressure without a container?



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1. Question.
Ask yourself, “What do I want to learn more about,” or “I wonder what would happen if...”

2. Hypothesize.
Research to help you make an educated guess, or hypothesis, and then answer your question.

3. Experiment.
Test your hypothesis by making a plan and conducting an experiment.

4. Observe & Record.
Make careful observations and write down what happens.

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Are you saying that you can have gas pressure without a container?

Atmospheric pressure comparison Pressure Reference
kilopascal psi
Olympus Mons summit 0.03 0.0044 –
Mars average 0.6 0.087 –
Hellas Planitia bottom 1.16 0.168 –
Armstrong limit 6.25 0.906 –

Mount Everest summit 33.7 4.89 [71]
Earth sea level 101.3 14.69 –
Dead Sea level 106.7 15.48 [72]
Surface of Venus 9,200 1,330 [73]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Everest
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometric_formula

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Atmospheric pressure comparison Pressure Reference
kilopascal psi
Olympus Mons summit 0.03 0.0044 –
Mars average 0.6 0.087 –
Hellas Planitia bottom 1.16 0.168 –
Armstrong limit 6.25 0.906 –

Mount Everest summit 33.7 4.89 [71]
Earth sea level 101.3 14.69 –
Dead Sea level 106.7 15.48 [72]
Surface of Venus 9,200 1,330 [73]


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barometric_formula

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The absolute pressure exerted by a given mass of an ideal gas is inversely proportional to the volume it occupies if the temperature and amount of gas remain unchanged within a closed system.
Boyle's Law
Levine, Ira. N (1978). "Physical Chemistry" University of Brooklyn: McGraw-Hill





So,

(1) Is there any evidence of gas pressure being maintained without the antecedent of a container to press upon?

(2) Can you have air pressure next to a vacuum without a container?


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https://www.mide.com/pages/air-press...ude-calculator



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum


Height of Mount Everest above sea level in feet: 29,029 (per Google)



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(1) Is there any evidence of gas pressure being maintained without the antecedent of a container to press upon?

(2) Can you have air pressure next to a vacuum without a container?
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The response "Life's A Journey, Enjoy It!" or a link to the video with a title thereof is "Avoiding the Issue," which is a a logical fallacy, https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...ding-the-Issue.

1. To go forward, your response can only either be "Yes" or "No."

2. To go forward, your response can only either be "Yes" or "No."

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Exclamation Scientific Method

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A scientific hypothesis is the initial building block in the scientific method. Many describe it as an "educated guess," based on prior knowledge and observation. While this is true, the definition can be expanded.

A null hypothesis is a hypothesis that says there is no statistical significance between the two variables. It is usually the hypothesis a researcher or experimenter will try to disprove or discredit. An alternative hypothesis is one that states there is a statistically significant relationship between two variables.

Keep this in mind:

INDEPENDENT VARIABLE:
What I CHANGE.

DEPENDENT VARIABLE:
What I OBSERVE.

CONTROLLED VARIABLE:
What I KEEP THE SAME.


To further explain:

Independent Variable Definition. An independent variable is defines as the variable that is changed or controlled in a scientific experiment. It represents the cause or reason for an outcome. Independent variables are the variables that the experimenter changes to test their dependent variable.

A dependent variable is what you measure in the experiment and what is affected during the experiment. ... It is called dependent because it "depends" on the independent variable. In a scientific experiment, you cannot have a dependent variable without an independent variable.

A controlled variable is one which the researcher holds constant (controls) during an experiment. ... The control variable is not part of an experiment (not the independent or dependent variable), but it is important because it can have an effect on the results.
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Question Gas Pressure Question

Any evidence that you can have gas pressure without the antecedent of a container for the gas to press upon.

Boyle's Law

2nd Law of Thermodynamics

https://youtu.be/l5XzBOsmPVQ?t=1625
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Is your claim gravity is holding in the atmosphere of the earth and preventing said atmosphere from escaping into the vacuum of space?

Are you saying that you can have gas pressure without a container?

BTW, sorry for the slow reply, had some issues the other day.

Well it wouldn't be pressure, it would be a vacuum Vidbid, we are talking about a vehicle that levitates like a balloon but which uses a vacuum instead of a gas. This idea of a vacuum balloon Air/Spaceship is a concept I had not seriously considered. I was unaware that the idea of a vacuum balloon Air/Spaceship, first proposed by Jesuit Monk, Francis Lanawas in 1670 was actually under consideration as a concept which might presently be doable with new materials, but the evidence is pointing towards the idea that not only is it doable, but probably is already in operation.

Whether or not aerogels are the solution or part of the solution is something else to investigate, but it is a dang interesting idea if it is doable and which could have a number of other ideas incorporated, and what's so curious is of course how this all happens to just coincide with the powers that be war on tobacco.

In 1670, a Jesuit Monk, Francis Lana, suggested an aircraft based on the principle of creating vacuum balloons in his book Prodromo dell'Arte Maestra.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_airship

The other part of the post, with regards to the discussion in general about antigravity, came about because I was looking for information on dielectric materials. So where we are now in this discussion, with balloons to space, was accidental from my perspective.

However....however....Consider the options which a lot of aerogel bricks might make possible as opposed to a Zeppelin type airship. In thinking on this it now seems likely I myself may have seen one of these. Also these reports of flying brick like structures are growing and I think are recent. There are numerous reports of flying brick/box like objects and so likely we have stumbled upon the answer is my thinking. Does tie in with a hidden agenda behind the war on smoking.
http://www.energeticforum.com/313380-post612.html


MIT's trillion frames per second light-tracking camera - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16163931
http://www.energeticforum.com/316226-post947.html



"Electricity is Ether in a state of dynamic polarization; magnetism is Ether in a state of dynamic circular polarization upon itself, is the radiative termination of electrical discharge; dielectricity is the Ether under stress or strain. The motions and strains of the Ether give rise to electrification. Phi times Psi gives Q; ‘electrons’ do not mediate these electrical and magnetic forces or their likewise the Ether fields. There are no electrons, negative charges, special-dimensions, warped space (resoundingly denied by Tesla and others), and no photons; only charge, induction and radiation/discharges and their relational spins, all as mediated through the Ether.

How to magnetize a rock

http://www.energeticforum.com/313604-post652.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/313455-post633.html


Now realize here that I just happened across the other interesting information, and which cross correlates with the war on tobacco because tobacco is one of a few plants which is capable of producing this new aerogel. Makes a lot of sense if you ask me, and very likely what I saw was a high altitude observation platform. The dull yellow circular lights are very likely glow discharge atmospheric plasma.
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/s_gdp1.htm
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