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Old 05-13-2019, 02:42 AM
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A CHILD could do what you ask, but you can't. That just kills me.
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A CHILD could do what you ask, but you can't. That just kills me.
Now you claim a child can demonstrate a generator which delivers 2kw of real output power while using only 300 watts of input power. Got proof of that claim?

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Old 05-13-2019, 04:53 AM
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Show a generator running at an output of real power which is more than the input power. But you can not.
My response: A CHILD could do what you ask, but you can't. That just kills me.

THAT is what I said a child can do, not "demonstrate a generator which delivers 2kw of real output power while using only 300 watts of input power" which I can ALSO do, but it would be harder for a child to replicate that. Once again you try to twist my words to suit you.

Give me a couple days. I think I can put together a video using my coil testing machine, which does NOT have magnetic neutralization, but I think I could rig it to run at least a couple coils, and that would prove more out than in if that is all that is needed to show you that you are incorrect in your beliefs. That machine has never been taken apart, but just doesn't have any coils in it right now. I just happen to have three coils wound, and that should be enough to prove the point. We shall see.

Edit: Nope. I forgot my coil tester has a rotor with N/S magnets on it. Need one with all N or all S to set up magnetic opposition. So you win. I just don’t have the time to rebuild a machine right now.
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Old 05-13-2019, 05:27 AM
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Letís join the fray, we came to play.
Immature personalities with high IQís need girlfriends or something.
They sure are burned out in the social areas.
My daddyís ego is bigger than yours.
I donít have tiny hands!!
Just a tiny mind.
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Because it is impossible. An electric generator is an energy conversion device. It requires more energy input (in mechanical form thru the shaft) than the energy it outputs to the load (electricity). Nothing you're doing, or anybody has done, changes that fact.

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Hello Bistander,

I just had to enter here to answer your post above...

It "could be" practically impossible to overcome a "Mechanical Generator", where the "Input" is based on a rotating shaft, but...

Do you ever think a non mechanical generator is possible?, like just spinning (or moving) the magnetic fields is impossible?

Do you think using Magnetism as a solely source-method to generate electricity is the "one and only" method ever?

...and not talking about chemicals, nor any heat or specific reactions. But just using magnetism to control previously accelerated particles (electrons, ions, etc) into specific geometries which could induce electricity, just as magnetic fields do?

I would just ask you to be -just a bit- more "open minded" friend. Open your mind to "possible unexplored fields of science"...


There are some out there...


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Hi ufopolitics, is it along the same ideas as Teslaís frequency conversion methods in theory?
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Hey Turion,

Maybe a child shot this video.

https://youtu.be/5eXLecR17pI



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Nah,
Looks more like something you or Luc would build and then claim it was a replication of my generator.
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Men, that was a fake. Although he could have been one of my students.
His build is very hazardous and never is picked up to show the wires coming through the table.
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:37 PM
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Pot head,
Both bi and I KNOW that was a fake. We are just giving each other a hard time. No stock electric motor can turn a generator that outputs more than the motor takes to run without several things in place that are NOT in the design shown. We have been at this a long time, and while we may not agree on what IS possible, when it comes down to designs that are NOT possible, I’m sure we can agree that the above video is one of them.
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Hi Bistander,
some time ago you posted a link to a generator design
which appeared to be very efficient.
I think it was possibly an axial design aimed at wind energy.
I'd be most grateful if you could re-post it.
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Hi Bistander,
some time ago you posted a link to a generator design
which appeared to be very efficient.
I think it was possibly an axial design aimed at wind energy.
I'd be most grateful if you could re-post it.
Hi, I'll see if I can recall that. I think I know what you mean. Later.

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Old 06-03-2019, 08:36 PM
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Axial flux genny

Was it this one? It was a download so I couldn't get a link. A search for the title should show you the way.

http://www.energeticforum.com/316715-post102.html

Post #102 in this thread.

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Thank you Bistander, that was the very one.
Looks like it would serve as a useful low speed wind gen.
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Acceleration under load. The first priority must be to prove your motor is 100% efficient, if not any acceleration is just a change in overall performance.

In the context of RegenX can you understand my
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BroMikey is having difficulty with same.
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I probably should have said optimum efficiency rather than 100% efficiency.


Tests carried out on a 44 megawatt 6-pole synchronous ABB motor shortly before delivery showed an efficiency 0.25 percent greater than the 98.8 percent stipulated in the contract, resulting in the world record for electric motor efficiency.

They do know a bit about motors "out there".
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Acceleration under load. The first priority must be to prove your motor is 100% efficient, if not any acceleration is just a change in overall performance.

In the context of RegenX can you understand my
point?
BroMikey is having difficulty with same.
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Hi,

My observations and opinions. BM is incapable of performing a valid efficiency measurement on an electrical machine. Turion may, with assistance, but seems unwilling.

I've been after him for proof of claims for years, only to nearly get banned from this forum. Hence this thread. Some think their unsubstantiated claims are valid until proven otherwise. While logic and convention dictate that the one making the claim provides proof, it does not apply to them.

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