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Old 01-18-2019, 07:56 PM
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Interesting article.

From: Forbes

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|Jan 18, 2019,12:16 pm
This Dutch Startup Converts Heat Into Cold Via A Stirling Engine, And Could Just Save The Planet
John KoetsierContributor
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John Koetsier is a journalist, analyst, author, and speaker.
By 2050, almost six billion air conditioners could eat 37% of global electricity, according to the International Energy Agency. That’s because as India and China get richer — and the planet gets hotter — people around the globe are buying A/C units at levels approaching the United States.

This is an environmental catastrophe waiting to happen.

But one startup from the tiny town of Enschede in the Netherlands aims to change that via a technological marvel that turns heat into cold without requiring energy itself — or any of the nasty gases that most A/C units use today. The technology, which SoundEnergy unveiled at CES last week in Las Vegas, uses a process similar to a Stirling Engine, which was first conceptualized 200 years ago in the early 1800s.


It sounds like magic, or a perpetual motion machine, but it relies on well-understood principles of thermo acoustics and was originally developed in U.S. Department of Defense research, the company says.

The first step is transforming heat into sound.


Sound Energy’s thermal acoustic engine. The sound wave travels around and around the blue tube.SOUNDENERGY




“We take thermal energy … [and] we transform this thermal energy into an acoustic wave,” SoundEnergy CFO Roy Hamans told me at CES last week. “This wave travels through a pressurized infinite loop (the blue ring in the picture on our website) in which it continues to be amplified … the feedback process makes the sound wave stronger and stronger.”

So far, so good. SoundEnergy has built a machine to turn heat into mechanical energy.

But eventually, you want more. You don’t want to just remove heat … you also want to return cold. And, according to Hamans, SoundEnergy’s device does that as well.

“This huge mechanical power will be transformed into a delta T [lower temperature] down in the last two vessels by connecting them in reverse,” he told me via email this week. “The sound waves produce cold by distracting the heat from the particles like in a classical Stirling cycle.”

If you don’t understand how that works, you’re not alone. I don’t either. Hamans tried to comfort me that saying that only about two or three dozen people globally, all experts in thermo-acoustics, truly understand this process.


Global energy use for air conditioning is skyrocketing, according to the International Energy Agency.INTERNATIONAL ENERGY AGENCY

It seems quasi-magical, but the company has been shipping commercial product since last September. SoundEnergy’s first customer was Dubai, which purchased a unit for cooling in a plant which condenses drinkable water from the air. Another government has purchased a unit for cooling in a remote, off-grid space.


One of the reasons why?

This high-tech A/C unit does not itself require power.

“The system itself does not consume electricity/energy,” Hamans told me via email. “It takes 100% of stack-emitted waste energy, or solar thermal … and converts that for 40-50% [efficiency].”

The rest of the heat can get discharged into a cooling pool, or the atmosphere, or, if absolutely required, cooled with a standard A/C unit. The only parts that potentially use external power to run would be a small controller unit for more precise calibration, and of course pumps to circulate heat-bearing fluid in and cold fluid out.

The system is ideal for industrial use where high-temperature motors and equipment needs to be cooled, but can also be used for large multi-family housing units. Large units run about $50,000, though prices will drop with scale, and smaller units for residential/consumer purposes are possible at much lower prices.


Hamans says the systems pay for themselves.

“For commercial and industrial use we are talking about only a few years to five years payback time,” he told me. “[Also factor] in that our systems have an expected life time of 20-30 years, which to our knowledge is substantially longer than electric compressor based systems.”

Financial payback is one thing.

But if the company can help solve the global energy challenges while also helping us cool our homes, offices, and factories efficiently, the environmental payback may very well outweigh the financial considerations.

The company’s next steps?

“Our strategy so far is demonstrating commercial and technical feasibility per industry, upscaling from a few launch customers to multiple, globally,” says Hamans. “These industries include but are not limited to heavy industries like (petro)chemical and process industries, food & beverage, textiles, metal, hydrogen, and mobile/stand alone systems which can operate in remote areas. Further we can also cool spaces/buildings, and cold chains for fresh produce or medical supplies, particularly also in hot areas, grid independent.”



John Koetsier is a journalist, analyst, author, and speaker. Follow him on Twitter or connect on LinkedIn.

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that is sure a fun idea,
I wonder why they have a lifespan of only 20 to 30 years
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:32 PM
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that is sure a fun idea,
I wonder why they have a lifespan of only 20 to 30 years
I'm guessing that seals may be the serviceable parts but like you, wonder why the hardware life would be that limited. Read more about it here: https://www.ontwerperoverdevloer.nl/theac-25/

Sounds similar to a heat pump and needs thermal energy input (heat source). Basically turns hot into cold. Looks like the world will need some more air conditioners, so I hope this is for real.

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Old 01-20-2019, 01:47 AM
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I'd like to see the numbers

This is completely feasible if you understand basic energy science. They say only a few people understand it but I find that hard to believe. I think they say that to send the skeptics off on a rabbit trail.

Any time you have a difference in temperature and enough thermal mass involved you can extract energy from the environment. Nothing new there. It's fairly standard science. What you do with the energy is up to you. Cool this or that or launch a rocket ship, it is up to you!

They are clearly trying to distract the reader from the basic theory or idea. You have a process that uses energy and produces a lot of heat. This heat can be their input. They insert their invention between the heat source and the existing cooling tower or whatever and poof! they can capture and use some of that heat energy with their invention.

The problem, in this case, goes back to economics. You put your money and time into this hoping to get a return at some point. There are many ways to lose your money.

I'd like to see exactly how well they are performing and expect to perform. If you can raise a million or two you should be able to engineer and build a device. You sell one or two or half a dozen for 50,000 apiece and gather some data, etc. You're still in the hole but if you can keep going long enough you might actually build a sustainable business. I have seen these companies come along before but they can't sustain themselves. Maybe this one will succeed. They look good on the surface.

I would have a lot of questions but I'm not going to invest very much in their business so they will not be telling me anything. They don't need me and I won't be giving them any money so there it is. This is not going to save the planet but it may help a little. We need to develop something real that people can afford. Very few can afford 50,000 even if it was the real solution we all seek.

If any reader has something that works and can be copied tell us about it. The cheaper the better. If you want credit for the discovery you will get it. It is nearly impossible to hide any more. Just watch your 180.
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Wow interesting tech. Thanks for sharing
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sounds Dutch

They invented reclamation technology when they started pushing back the sea.
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