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Old 06-03-2019, 09:53 PM
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I offer this snapshot to illustrate my dilemma.
Hi Pot heat,

I use Firefox under Windows and I can see all the pictures member soundiceuk embeds into his posts. they link to outside file hosting sites.
Maybe your web browser inhibits the outside links in the posts?

Here is a link to one of his pictures from his post #173 can you see this?


Here is the same link in a shorter form: https://tinyurl.com/y3v252xu

Maybe the web browser you use has a very rigorous malware filter which inhibits outside links? Just guessing.

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Old 06-04-2019, 02:34 AM
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Thank you gyula, I use iPhone.
I turn off buttons that require
spying from a third party.📡
So, if I donít see anything then
itís not open for all the public,
just certain nerds with magic computer genies.👹
Gosh, you nerds are smart.💡
Iím just a pot head.🍔
I have been to another planet. Itís called My Family.
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Old 07-15-2019, 06:42 PM
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Hi folks, here is an update.

So much has happened since I last posted. It's going to take a few posts to bring everyone up to speed.

My understanding of the machine, its operation and principles is at its current peak!

There are many ways to build Nikola Tesla's Thermodynamic Transformer.

No matter what your required result you need vacuum for the machine to work.

I believe this can be achieved single stage using air bearings, but it will not be compatible with off the shelf alternators.

The same applies if you use a Tesla Turbine and Tesla Vacuum pump. The RPM is far too high for anything off the shelf.

If you can build custom dynamos or alternators to take advantage of this then happy days.

My aim since the last post has been to prototype a simple Tesla volute pump that can be run at a maximum of 3000rpm to enable off the shelf alternators for use at 50/60hz.

Here is the picture of Nikola Tesla's pump diagram:

Here is a pump double flow rotor which is to be used with a double flow turbine rotor.

Now to explain what double flow means.

If you look at the turbine patent diagram you will see the SOLID ARROW is rotating CLOCKWISE.

Now look above at the pump diagram and you will see the SOLID ARROW is rotating ANTI-CLOCKWISE.

This took me a while to understand but it has been confirmed with experimentation and deep reading of many patents.

When you have a centre solid disc you have a double flow rotor.

When you have all discs with exhaust ports you have a single flow rotor.

What does this mean?

This is what happens when you have a single flow rotor:

This means that when the pump is turned ANTI-CLOCKWISE a vacuum is created and it spins the turbine CLOCKWISE


The turbine has the right hand valve open and the left hand valve closed.


If the turbine has the left hand valve open and the right hand valve closed the pump will brake, which happens because the turbine rotor will start spinning ANTI-CLOCKWISE.

It does this because it will make the pump suck air in from its exhaust.

When you use a double flow rotor in the turbine and the pump there is no appreciable thrust on the axles. The single flow turbine and pump suffer from side thrust and provision for taking it up should be made if using single flow rotors.

The 2 stage turbine and pump with double flow rotors both rotate the same direction and making the turbine spin the opposite direction will brake the pump.

It gets more far more interesting but here some photos of my build which was done using 4' x 4' sheet plywood.

Here is the design which we traced from the patent using Solidworks:

Here is one half of the volute casing with a polycarbonate toy single flow rotor:

Here is one half of the volute casing with a mild steel 3 disc double flow rotor:

Here is another shot of the mild steel 3 disc double flow rotor that weighs approx 40kg:

Here is my 30mm aluminium base plate to join the turbine exhaust ports to the pump inlets:

Here is the pump air channel for one port:

Here is the pump end casing:

Here are the Nachi 20mm bearings rated at 7450rpm, 658KG each

Lots more to come on this folks! This two stage machine is going to blow you away!
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:03 PM
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Amazing work! That should have some real power.
There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine
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Old 07-17-2019, 10:10 PM
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Thank you!!!

Tesla's machine doesn't operate how any of us would expect!

It has taken some very deep research, study, meditation and many experiments to understand this.

It is now my job to explain it in layman's terms.

Piston engines are vacuum / compression explosion engines.

Nikola Tesla's machine using turbine and pump is a vacuum / decompression implosion engine.

US Patent 1,061,206 Turbine

"In order to bring out a distinctive feature, assume, in the first place, that the motive medium is admitted to the disk chamber through a port, that is a channel which it traverses with nearly uniform velocity."

Interesting word "admitted". The motive medium is allowed in!

Where does Nikola Tesla ever say to use compressed air or hot steam in his turbine patent?

The machine runs from the vacuum made from the pump creating a negative pressure and atmospheric pressure seeking lower pressure copying the wheel work of nature.

The atmospheric air enters the turbine and the vacuum causes the water vapour in the air to implode as it turns into cold steam.

This is what propels the pump, which in turn creates more vacuum.

Watch the experiment from 1:50 - 3:15

As many of you will know the Tesla turbine and pump uses the properties of adhesion and viscosity to turn the rotors.

Water is 50 times as viscous as air.

Cold steam is even more viscous!

So the machine is a two stage steam engine if used with the port and two stage steam turbine if used with the diverging nozzle.

I have a lot more information about this subject.

Try and wrap your head around this first.

Any questions I would be happy to try and answer them.



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Old 07-19-2019, 02:55 AM
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Here is my latest video:

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Old Yesterday, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by soundiceuk View Post
Here is my latest video:

Very nice. How long will it run?
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In the video I’m using my 5 axis machined acrylic casing currently running a 1/4” BSPP with 3mm straight port and a 1/2” BSPP 5% diverging nozzle.

It strangles the flow unbelievably!

I know this simply because my 3D printed casing had the same port but the 3D printing blocked the hole a bit.

I drilled the 3D printed casing port out to 4mm and the top speed was 23,000rpm

The same stainless steel 316 rotor can only do 18,000rpm using the 3mm port and exactly the same compressor.

I have the acrylic casing currently being modified on a 3 axis.

The new design has a 1” port and 1” 40% diverging nozzle.

I would have gone bigger if I could.

Atmosphere is the battery. Atmospheric pressure is the voltage, the volume of air is the current.

This pump was running two 12.5kg mild steel discs in the video.

The 1/3hp motor has 1400rpm top speed.

The flywheel freewheels for 32.5 minutes with no turbine and the flow is good.

With the turbine on top the turbine started spinning at around 800rpm.

I didn’t measure how long but ran for as I could instantly see the vacuum was strangled massively.

Currently it’s like having a resistor on the port and small negative resistor on the nozzle.

The new turbine inlet is going to be like having 0 gauge wire instead of 18 gauge and huge resistor!

The new diverging nozzle is going to create very fast flow. A huge negative resistor.

How long will it run with a metal balanced rotor and the new inlet?

I would say until you block the inlet or until the bearings break!

That’s how Tesla designed it! No planned obselence here!

This is Tesla’s Niagara Falls Mk2 !
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Might sound a bit nuts but atmosphere is the battery. Atmospheric pressure is the voltage, the volume of air is the current.

Hence Thermodynamic Transformer
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