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Old 08-01-2018, 10:08 PM
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Soundiceuk's Permanent Magnet Bearing R&D

Hi folks, my research on replicating Mikhail Dmitriyev's device may have ended.

I think I am the path to something much more fruitful as has no swinging pendulums or one way bearings.

Folks this is open source.

I've think I've found fairly free energy out there and its energy bank is bigger than you can imagine!

Fairly free because the components are not free, the electrostatic isn't going anywhere thanks to the sun.

If you watch the video I made tonight then you will see I hardly spin this 2 oz weight at all.







The final version will be able to hold a lot of weight approx 100kg - 200kg stable and therefore be able to be spun at very high RPM.

POWER SOURCE

You are going to love this bit!

Watch this video....



Now here is the twist.....

It has been proven you can get potential between two ground rods of dissimilar metals..... Now put this through a tuned Tesla coil and you have eletrostatic motor.

Now couple this with Matt's generator or similar and you have almost free energy!

Earnshaws theorum is pretty dated 1842

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnshaw%27s_theorem
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Nikola Tesla - The Code Uncovered

Hey guys, here is a teaser of the prototype to prove "Earnshaws Theorum" 1842 is incorrect.



From here it gets a little more interesting.


I'll take you back to Nikola Tesla 1900 - The Problem of Increasing Human Energy


"It is possible, and even probable, that there will be, in time, other resources of energy opened up, of which we have no knowledge now. We may even find ways of applying forces such as magnetism or gravity for driving machinery without using any other means. Such realizations, though highly improbable, are not impossible. An example will best convey an idea of what we can hope to attain and what we can never attain. Imagine a disk of some homogeneous material turned perfectly true and arranged to turn in frictionless bearings on a horizontal shaft above the ground. This disk, being under the above conditions perfectly balanced, would rest in any position. Now, it is possible that we may learn how to make such a disk rotate continuously and perform work by the force of gravity without any further effort on our part; but it is perfectly impossible for the disk to turn and to do work without any force from the outside. If it could do so, it would be what is designated scientifically as a "perpetuum mobile," a machine creating its own motive power. To make the disk rotate by the force of gravity we have only to invent a screen against this force. By such a screen we could prevent this force from acting on one half of the disk, and the rotation of the latter would follow. At least, we cannot deny such a possibility until we know exactly the nature of the force of gravity. Suppose that this force were due to a movement comparable to that of a stream of air passing from above toward the centre of the earth. The effect of such a stream upon both halves of the disk would be equal, and the latter would not rotate ordinarily; but if one half should be guarded by a plate arresting the movement, then it would turn."


Now we all know Tesla talks in code and left multiple patents that can be stitched together if you are trained in the art.


Now take another look at Tesla's Turbine patent.

Remember that Tesla likes to describe:

"electricity" as "fluid"

"diodes" as "valves"

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tes...061206-turbine


Here is an extract:

Considering now the converse of the above described operation and assuming that fluid under pressure be allowed to pass through the valve at the side of the solid arrow, the runner will be set in rotation in a clockwise direction, the fluid traveling in a spiral path and with continuously diminishing velocity until it reaches the orifices 14 and 20, through which it is discharged. If the runner be allowed to turn freely, in nearly frictionless bearings, its rim will attain a speed closely approximating the maximum of that of the adjacent fluid and the spiral path of the particles will be comparatively long, consisting of many almost circular turns. If load is put on and the runner slowed down, the motion of the fluid is retarded, the turns are reduced, and the path is shortened.


Why do you think that these bearings invented in 1954 have been so hidden???


All we need to generate lots of free power is a frictionless bearing.


Two electrodes like PPV.

One transformer.

Two dissimilar earth rods like copper and iron.


or Mikhail Dmitriyev's device could be attached to the shaft but the RPMs would be much lower.


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Hello,

I like the direction you are going with this. Good work!



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Now imagine that jump when the shaft is in stable levitation.

This was Tesla's favourite invention completely misunderstood:

Tesla's turbine and Radaint energy patent misunderstood.....

Radiant energy is static electricity. Funny how is was called "static"..... play on words by the architects perhaps. Because it is anything but "static".....


You can tap the static using two dissimilar ground rods, two antennas or an antenna and earth!!!!

How?

Use a reverse Tesla coil!


and now for the completely unsafe way to harness the same energy source:





All this time the answer has been right in front of our noses... Tesla's spinning air capacitor running off static...
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Now imagine that jump when the shaft is in stable levitation.

This was Tesla's favourite invention completely misunderstood:

Tesla's turbine and Radaint energy patent misunderstood.....

Radiant energy is static electricity. Funny how is was called "static"..... play on words by the architects perhaps. Because it is anything but "static".....


You can tap the static using two dissimilar ground rods, two antennas or an antenna and earth!!!!

How?

Use a reverse Tesla coil!


and now for the completely unsafe way to harness the same energy source:





All this time the answer has been right in front of our noses... Tesla's spinning air capacitor running off static...
I am unconvinced that radiant energy is electrostatic energy
this guy did a very good job of figuring out what is going on in terms that many people can understand
William J. Hooper: The Motional Electric Field
and he clearly shows that what Tesla did was playing with a magnetically induced voltage.
and that is not at all an electrostatic field.
you can shield from an electrostatic field.
you can not shield from a magnetically induced voltage.
tesla even said that it was a painful field that was not that possible to shield from.
he was not dealing with the electrostatic

most of the confusion is that there are 2 things that read as voltage,
and they are not the same at all.
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But first we need to ask ourselves what frequencies does "static" include!

The answer if simply a waveform of sound energy coming from the sun.... Ultra violet, "static", planetary noise and it has no radio transmitter powering the signal, it comes from the sun... its the suns noise that can be converted.... Turn on the radio and go between stations on a dial.... that crackling noise can be turned into mechanical motion using an anode and a cathode and reverse Tesla coil

Static isn't AC or DC... its scalar

If you look on a scope it goes straight up not horizontal
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We are getting close now to my prototype being ready.....

We are closer to free energy than you think!
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I've been doing research and development for 8 years now.

I've connected the dots.

We are very close!


"I asked Tesla what part of his life work lay closest to his heart. And the answer surprised me. It was not the world wireless system, nor the airplane. It was not the induction motor, today the basis of industries in which billions of dollars are invested all over the world. Instead, it was the discovery of the principle that preceded the induction motor — the “rotating magnetic field.”

“When I made the discovery of the rotating magnetic field,” Dr. Tesla said, “I was a very young man. The revelation came after years of concentrated thought and it was my first great thrill.

“It was not only a valuable discovery, capable of extensive practical applications. It was a revelation of new forces and new phenomena unknown to science before.

“No,” Dr. Tesla said with some feeling, “I would not give my rotating field discovery for a thousand inventions, however valuable, designed merely as mechanical contraptions to deceive the eye and the ear. A thousand years hence, the telephone and the motion picture camera may be obsolete, but the principle of the rotating magnetic field will remain a vital, living thing for all time to come"
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Here is some proof of Tesla's rotating magnetic field:





My latest prototype should be finished today.

It should be the final proof we need to harness Tesla's rotating magnetic field discovery.

It features 4 x 120kg neo magnets encased in aluminium to protect the magnets and also make them safer to handle.

https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/ring...d_R-60-06-30-N


You could use something much smaller for a replication.

If you are interested in seeing the prototype please pm me.

I am gathering names as if it works we all need to put it out there individually and everywhere to make sure we can get this off the ground.

Strength in numbers!
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Hi folks,

I now have a shaft in 100% levitation. It is only a few mm of adjustment from 100% working.

I'm currently machining new magnet holders with no lids. Currently lids are 8mm thick. Therefore proximity of each pair of 120kg magnets is 16mm minimum.

It was floating and stable at this point but making very minor contact. Was even better with magnets arranged asymmetrically. N / S on one magnet holder and then S / N on the other magnet holder.

New magnet holders will be down to 2mm and shaft will be stable and floating in a extremely strong magnet field.

I've seen it with my own eyes!

Magnetic tug of war!

I will share my design with you.

This is the most stable magnetic bearing design that I've tested.













These pictures were taken before threads were made longer and before they were adjusted.

Use your imagination!
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Seeking the ultimate permanent magnetic bearing design, aiming for 100% stable and frictionless apart from air resistance.

Permanent Magnetic Bearing Prototype 3 - Stage 1

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Hi Paul,

What is missing for me is the free rotation of the floating rotor in the center: I would expect it to spin for a relatively long time after
you give some spinning to it by your fingers.
See this levitating toy what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-Px0VjQ2w

What I suspect is that free rotation is hampered by eddy currents induced in the Alu side walls close to the floating rotor magnets.

I think there are static fields like I tried to indicate roughly in the picture, see attachment.

Can you can detect magnetic field on the outer side of the Alu wall? Does say an small pin or a small nail remain attracted to
the outer side of the Alu wall as I tried to indicate in the picture?

If you can detect stray fields from the magnets at the outside wall, then the fields penetrate the Alu structure
so this may cause the eddy current braking effect against rotation.

Unfortunately, you would need to build a wooden or plastic structure instead of the Alu one to get rid of
the breaking effect if this is the case. I do not know how the magnets are arranged
inside the cylindrical Alu holders (I did not follow your full work here), so maybe I am wrong with my eddy current suspect.

Your work is awesome, by the way.

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Did you see my previous video?

It does what that toy does but vertically.



At the end of my video at 2:10 the shaft does what these air bearings do at 2:40 - 3:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTWx69mghM

So I know I'm close.

Electromagnets have a much bigger field than permanent magnets, therefore its going to take some very powerful magnets to achieve what electromagnets can.

I'll leave you with this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UmtjtFCrUk

What I am trying to achieve is a magnetic tug of war.

I think my next set of experiments will decide the direction of the magnetic bearing.
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What I suspect is that free rotation is hampered by eddy currents induced in the Alu side walls close to the floating rotor magnets.

I think there are static fields like I tried to indicate roughly in the picture, see attachment.

Can you can detect magnetic field on the outer side of the Alu wall? Does say an small pin or a small nail remain attracted to
the outer side of the Alu wall as I tried to indicate in the picture?

If you can detect stray fields from the magnets at the outside wall, then the fields penetrate the Alu structure
so this may cause the eddy current braking effect against rotation.

Unfortunately, you would need to build a wooden or plastic structure instead of the Alu one to get rid of
the breaking effect if this is the case. I do not know how the magnets are arranged
inside the cylindrical Alu holders (I did not follow your full work here), so maybe I am wrong with my eddy current suspect.
Hmm not sure until I increase the magnet strength of the outer magnets. There is currently physical contact but barely.

I would expect the axle to be levitated more and a visible gap between the magnets...

Next magnet holders are going to be stainless 316 with probably 0.5mm between the magnets on each holder.

The current arrangement is actually N/S N/S I just checked it.
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Hi Paul,

What is missing for me is the free rotation of the floating rotor in the center: I would expect it to spin for a relatively long time after
you give some spinning to it by your fingers.
See this levitating toy what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-Px0VjQ2w

What I suspect is that free rotation is hampered by eddy currents induced in the Alu side walls close to the floating rotor magnets.

I think there are static fields like I tried to indicate roughly in the picture, see attachment.

Can you can detect magnetic field on the outer side of the Alu wall? Does say an small pin or a small nail remain attracted to
the outer side of the Alu wall as I tried to indicate in the picture?

If you can detect stray fields from the magnets at the outside wall, then the fields penetrate the Alu structure
so this may cause the eddy current braking effect against rotation.

Unfortunately, you would need to build a wooden or plastic structure instead of the Alu one to get rid of
the breaking effect if this is the case. I do not know how the magnets are arranged
inside the cylindrical Alu holders (I did not follow your full work here), so maybe I am wrong with my eddy current suspect.

Your work is awesome, by the way.

Gyula
Gyula, yeah, I think your right the paramagnetism is producing a weird effect that adds friction. Its magnetic friction!

I might be able to get away with the frame but you have a point!

Magnets get sucked over to the frame, so the magnetic field is there.

I just tested a 24mm spanner and it almost held it off the ground to the outside of the frame, so field is strong.

Might have to be all made from 316 Stainless.

Will look amazing polished up!
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Hi Paul,

Just noticed your latest answer while I was preparing an answer so I include what I wrote, it may be relevant.

Yes, in your previous video your vertical setup can freely rotate for quite a long time (like the toy does), even though there is a little friction at the bottom of your rotor shaft where the tip of the shaft touches the knife surface.

From your latest video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW0H0D41uM4 ) it does not appear to me that "There is currently physical contact but barely." My impression is that there is a small 1 mm or slightly less air gap on both sides of the floating rotor versus the stator surfaces. Watching your video, there are moments when the floating rotor is displaced by your pushing shaft i.e. length wise towards the left or the right side stator Alu cases.

You could build a simple test setup using much smaller magnets and no Alu enclosure for the magnets at all, to see that a thus floating rotor is able to spin freely at all (like it does in the toy setup), see a drawing attached. If the floating rotor can spin for a relatively long time, then insert an Alu sheet of certain thickness into both air gaps to see whether spinning slows down or not. You may need to increase air gaps to accomodate for the thickness of the Alu (or copper) plates.
Similarly, you can place Alu sheets as if they were side walls, close to the floating spinning rotor to see any decelaration.
Either 4 cube or 4 cylinder magnets you happen to have could be used for such tests. Alu plate thickness counts too.

You write that you consider using 316 stainless steel instead of the Alu frame : unfortunately eddy currents can also be induced in them, they conduct current like Alu or copper.

For the holding structure you may consider hard plastic,like polyamide or similar material or even wood planks, boards etc: no any metal content which would conduct current.

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I think they got their title confused should be "Paramagetic""





I wanted the stainless 316 because of the weight.

How strong is polymide compaired to stainless 316?

316 stainless is hardly ferro magnetic around powerful magnets in my experience.

The aluminium on the other hand definitely shows some weird braking behaviour.

I'd definitely consider any non magnetic material that is strong enough.

I only like doing experiments bigger scale. It is easier to see and feel differences when you change something because the effects are more extreme.
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I just tried to get a piece of paper through both sides and it goes straight through one but not the other it goes half way but if I push the axle the other way it swaps.

It seems to favour going back to one way if I spin it.

Its almost like one of the poles is more powerful than the other....

Maybe if I switch the magnets around on one side it will make a difference.

Asymmetry, but facing the right way asymmetry.

Maybe I can get both sides pushing in towards the middle.

Aren't both poles supposed to be the same strength?

I've experienced this before with another experiment.

I could probably capture that on video.

Has anyone else experienced this?
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I just tried to get a piece of paper through both sides and it goes straight through one but not the other it goes half way but if I push the axle the other way it swaps.

It seems to favour going back to one way if I spin it.

Its almost like one of the poles is more powerful than the other....

Maybe if I switch the magnets around on one side it will make a difference.

Asymmetry, but facing the right way asymmetry.

Maybe I can get both sides pushing in towards the middle.

Aren't both pole to be the same strength?

I've experienced this before with another experiment.

I could probably capture that on video.

Has anyone else experienced this?
But you have two threaded stator shafts, why don't you adjust one of them say half a mm or max 1 mm away from the floating rotor? I thought there was no mechanical touching between any of the Alu cases... and the air gaps are clearly gaps.

You also wrote:
"316 stainless is hardly ferro magnetic around powerful magnets in my experience."

Yes but eddy current is created by changing flux in electrically conductive materials, it is not about materials ferromagnetic properties.

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I’ve decided to make the magnet holders out of acetal.

Hopefully the frame doesn’t need changing too.

I think the axle just needs more pull.

A bigger magnetic field.

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Hi Paul,

Can you check the link to your above video? It says an error occured and cannot be watched.

It sounds good you test acetal for magnet holders. However, let me ask whether you increased the air gap by at least 0.5 mm on the side where you found the piece of paper did not go through straight? (I know there are huge attract forces involved and handling the nuts may not be easy.)

Sorry if you already increased that one gap to get rid of the earlier unwanted friction, if you did, then did you also find the free spinning still very problematic? (i.e. it stops in no time for a finger spin.)

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Gyula, I've tried a few different positions until I end up winding them until they touch on both sides.

I even tried a little bit of oil between the parts... that did make it spin a little better. Kind of defeats the object though.

Some other experiments I've done show one of the poles is stronger than the other.

Has anyone else ever come across this?

Maybe I'll have to make a video to explain.


I still haven't tried flipping the magnets on the right over so I'm not N/S N/S

and instead N/S S/N.

I just think the outer magnets need to be stronger.
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