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Arrow Diy Magnetic Field Scope/a Scanline E-Beam Plane Imaging Instrument..

Hello to All,

I had a few requests on my YT Chanel to upload a video showing how it is easily converted...so, this was a pending job on my Agenda...the following one is the CRT 2 Video, where we will see a FULL 360 Scanline Plane around differently excited fields, thanks to four of this Instruments.

Basically on this Thread I will be guiding anyone interested in making this awesome tool (or you could call it "Equipment" or "Instrument"..) for your Testing Lab Bench, which would help you visualize the COMPLETE MAGNETIC FIELD SPATIALLY AND THREE DIMENSIONAL TRUE GEOMETRY.

PLUS, realize Magnetic Field DO HAVE A Directional SPIN, and NOT like it was concluded by Hendrik Lorentz long ago...that Fields were not rotational.

Further on with Four of this small CRT units...and thanks to the HORIZONTAL SCANLINE ELECTRON BEAM RASTERING (SWEEPING) around whole Field...

It will help you ALL see (in my further CRT Video) that Fields are also SPATIALLY DIVERGENT, when we all would verify it with FOUR CRT's 360 SCANLINE PLANE around ANY Magnetic Field.

Finally, We'll all arrive to the same conclusion...that Magnetic Field Spinning Direction is just BUT ONE SINGLE SPINNING FORCE, which includes its NORTH and SOUTH POLARIZATIONS.

Exactly as it has been stated by Ken Wheeler on his Free E-Book.

I have put together a short video below, where I have shown how easy it is to CONVERT any (working) Analog small and old B&W CRT TV...into this awesome tool.



DIY MAGNETIC FIELD SCOPE

If Anyone needs further assistance or deeper knowledge on how this small unit works...below is a MUCH DETAILED VIDEO where it is "dissected" all the way from each of the TWO MAIN DEFLECTING COILS to the electronic signals which generate the ELECTRONIC BEAM HORIZONTAL SCANLINE PLANE with all Full Color 3D Animated CAD's for easy understanding.



CRT REVEALING MAGNETIC FIELD VORTEXES

This Tool is HIGHLY RESPONSIVE to Electromagnets which we are pulsing-switching, whether by AC, by Square DC Positive or Negative Pulses...or a constant Reversing DC Signal, generating an ALTERNATED DC Signal.


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CRT Scope/E-Beam Scanline Identifying N+S Spins

Hello,

The First thing this Instrument will clearly REVEAL, and ALWAYS IDENTIFY SAME WAY, is the Opposite Spin Directions between a NORTH and a SOUTH Polarization (Poles):

NORTH SPIN SEEN ON CRT SCOPE




SOUTH SPIN SEEN ON THE SAME CRT SCOPE SCREEN




And this FAST AND ACCURATE RESPONSE works the same way for an ELECTROMAGNET which is being fed with direct DC Currents...Or whenever we pulse it with ANY SIGNAL we would be working with.

Example: If we just connect our Coil to a Regulated PSU, and start dialing UP Voltage and Amperage...we will see the ANGLES WILL INCREASE, tending to reach the Vertical Line at center of screen, and perpendicular to ZERO LINE.


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Opposite Spins=Same Rotational Direction in 3D Perspective View...

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The First thing this Instrument will clearly REVEAL, and ALWAYS IDENTIFY SAME WAY, is the Opposite Spin Directions between a NORTH and a SOUTH Polarization (Poles):

NORTH SPIN SEEN ON CRT SCOPE




SOUTH SPIN SEEN ON THE SAME CRT SCOPE SCREEN




And this FAST AND ACCURATE RESPONSE works the same way for an ELECTROMAGNET which is being fed with direct DC Currents...Or whenever we pulse it with ANY SIGNAL we would be working with.

Example: If we just connect our Coil to a Regulated PSU, and start dialing UP Voltage and Amperage...we will see the ANGLES WILL INCREASE, tending to reach the Vertical Line at center of screen, and perpendicular to ZERO LINE.


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Even though, I have shown on my above quoted post, that a NORTH SPIN is COMPLETELY OF OPPOSITE NATURE to a SOUTH SPIN ...

When we get TWO of this CRT SCOPES, and set them according to below CAD DIAGRAM, meaning FACE TO FACE with the FIELD IN CENTER:



It is ONLY then, when we realize that BOTH SPINS AGREE ON SAME ROTATIONAL DIRECTION, from BOTH POLARIZATIONS...NORTH AND SOUTH.


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Even though, I have shown on my above quoted post, that a NORTH SPIN is COMPLETELY OF OPPOSITE NATURE to a SOUTH SPIN ...

When we get TWO of this CRT SCOPES, and set them according to below CAD DIAGRAM, meaning FACE TO FACE with the FIELD IN CENTER:



It is ONLY then, when we realize that BOTH SPINS AGREE ON SAME ROTATIONAL DIRECTION, from BOTH POLARIZATIONS...NORTH AND SOUTH.


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And NOW, ...IN AN ACTUAL TEST, with Two CRT's showing exactly SAME DIRECTIONAL SPIN as seen on previous CAD Diagram...:



Therefore, this is NOT, just about Diagrams and CAD Images...BUT THE REAL DEAL.


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More Tests with Two and Three CRT's...

Hello,

Below are some pictures taken to a Permanent Magnetic Field REVEALING ITS DIRECTIONAL SPINS by CRT E-BEAM SCANLINES...:



Above We are observing SOUTH Facing toward Screen, with TWO CRT's on each SIDE...can clearly see the deflections:

LEFT CRT= ABOVE (POSITIVE) ZEROLINE
RIGHT CRT= BELOW(NEGATIVE) ZEROLINE



Above Image, same configuration, but now with a THIRD CRT in the BACKGROUND, Confirming the CLOCKWISE SPIN, according to FIELD POSITIONING.

NOW LET'S SEE SAME CRT SET UP, BUT REVERSING FIELD POLARIZATIONS (POLES) BY 180...



Meaning, now NORTH POLE is facing Screen, so we have:

LEFT CRT= BELOW(NEGATIVE) ZEROLINE
RIGHT CRT=ABOVE (POSITIVE) ZEROLINE

Completely opposite as previous setup...

...And below are the THREE CRT's CONFIGURATION...:



Where SOUTH POLE is facing CENTER-BACK CRT SCREEN, and we see the TYPICAL SOUTH SPIN on CRT's Screen...


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East-West CRT'S Scanlines...

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Basically on this post I will refer to the EAST and WEST CRT's SCANLINE Magnetic Field Views...

EAST VIEW:



At the center of above Image we can see the EAST CRT and we observe a completely different Electron Beam Rastered Plane (2D SCANLINE) DEFLECTION.

The Green ZERO LINE used as reference on ALL CRT's, shows that whole deflection takes place on Both Negative Lower Quadrants, with a MUCH NEGATIVE DEFLECTION, EXACTLY at CENTER between both quadrants (Screen Center)...

WEST VIEW:



Above image I have kept the previous EAST VIEW CRT, (for Comparison purposes) so I had to add transparency to WEST CRT Screen...

And so, we can see on the WEST VIEW, EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE as the Eastern View SCANLINE DEFLECTION.

Whole WEST DEFLECTION is located in the TWO UPPER AND POSITIVE QUADRANTS.

But with the same HIGHER POINTS ON CENTER OF SCREEN which ALIGNS exactly with Magnet's EQUATORIAL PLANE (DIELECTRIC FIELD)...except here, they are on HIGHER POSITIVE LEVELS.

And basically, if we take a closer look at both deflections above...we will notice that if we rotate just one CRT (say EAST for example) in a 360 SPIN around Field, following its EQUATORIAL PLANE, when we reach across by 180 (where WEST CRT is set)...then we will realize that it results in exactly same deflections as seen in WEST VIEW, at just different locations of the Field.

Other words, East and West are just relative coordinates around an EQUATORIAL PLANE which always follow SAME DIRECTIONAL SPIN...

ON A SEPARATE NOTE, LET'S REALIZE THAT THE SCREEN SCANLINE IS JUST "A TWO DIMENSIONAL (2D) PROJECTION" ON THE FLUORESCENT SCREEN FROM THE ELECTRON BEAM CONSTANT RASTERED (SCANNED) PLANE...WHICH TAKES PLACE IN THE THREE DIMENSIONS (3D).

Further on, I will be showing this E-Beam Plane deflections which develops in a 3D Environment within the CRT vacuum Glass Tube...just by making tube more transparent in a more advanced 3D Software CAD Program...

Besides the obvious fact that the 3D E-Beam swept, scanned, plane, also travels OUTSIDE OF CRT Screen...to meet ALL FIELD VORTEXES...


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Backing up previous post by REAL Tested Images

Hello,

Here I will just BACK UP previous Post Claims with REAL TEST IMAGES, not just "painted" CAD's...

EAST VIEWS





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WEST VIEWS





Interesting Notes: When I am pulsing a Cylindrical Coil as an "Exciter"...with a shorter -in length- Secondary, wrapped within same core, but "movable" along the common core axis...it results very interesting that the HIGHEST AMPERAGE LEVELS are ALWAYS reached right at the VERY CENTER AREA of the Exciting and much longer Coil/Core...curiously, coinciding where we can see a MUCH HIGHER "LUMP" towards either positive or Negative Zones on CRT Deflected Scanlines (remember pos-neg or "east-west" is just a relative surface concept)...


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Interesting stuff Ufo,

Please show horizontal line when magnet(s) are turned red up and blue down, centered left to right.

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Interesting stuff Ufo,
Thanks Bistander,

And I believe it would be even more interesting when I start analyzing Coils-Cores under different excitation signals...

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Yes, sure, I see exactly what you are suggesting...also realize it would be the same as using a Vertical Scanline-Plane (instead of Horizontal) then leaving magnet in the same position that I have before, meaning with poles axis at 90 to Scanline...correct?

By doing that, yes magnet poles-axis would be at 90 degrees to E-Beam Scanline... BUT, looking from the Equatorial Plane point of view (what is defined by Ken Wheeler as the Dielectric Field-Plane, which is exactly in "Counterspace") the Scanline-Plane would be perfectly aligned with this Equatorial Plane...or Parallel to it (simply put, in the same plane both)...agree on that?

I would post pictures later and maybe tomorrow a short video...but, based on the above facts, could you tell me first, off your thoughts, just as a guess...what would you think, the scanline deflections should look like when we align magnet that way?

Thanks and great test proposal from you!!


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...what would you think, the scanline deflections should look like when we align magnet that way?
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Scanning Dielectric Counterspace Field...

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Exactly Bistander, just the same "boring" Flat Line...nothing happens...

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Please show horizontal line when magnet(s) are turned red up and blue down, centered left to right.

Thanks in advance,

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And it don't matter whether South or North is Up...same, exact result takes place...

The E-Beam Zero Scanline will not be affected at all (zero deflection) when passing PARALLEL and ALIGNED through the Dielectric Field Plane, or Equatorial Plane.

I have repeatedly mentioned this fact before, and it has been CLEARLY observed previously with...

MAGNETIC VIEW FILM

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And FERROCELL

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This Equatorial Plane Zone is completely "inactive" from magnetism or better said, not captured within our dimension because it is taking place in Counterspace.

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Actually, as previously written by K. Wheeler, this is where magnetism returns back as also emanates from its origin, Aether, which is in Counterspace.

If you have one of this CRT Scanline Tools, then you could see how THIN is this Plane, where a minimal, slight turn of the Magnet Axis, will rapidly start showing either North or South Spinning Patterns, depending on the tilting direction of the very narrow angle.

Surprised with results?...Were you expecting other deflection's Patterns here?...please share your thoughts...

On the other hand, as seen on iron filings views of the Magnetic Field...where there is "no center" shown, but straight lines crossing between both poles (heavy "traffic"), then E-Beam should reflect -at least- some "activity" in your suggested 90 position...don't you think?


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The E-Beam Zero Scanline will not be affected at all (zero deflection) when passing PARALLEL and ALIGNED through the Dielectric Field Plane, or Equatorial Plane.
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This Equatorial Plane Zone is completely "inactive" from magnetism or better said, not captured within our dimension because it is taking place in Counterspace.
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Why then is there maximum deflection of the scan line in that zone in the test here?

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On the other hand, as seen on iron filings views of the Magnetic Field...where there is "no center" shown, but straight lines crossing between both poles (heavy "traffic"), then E-Beam should reflect -at least- some "activity" in your suggested 90 position...don't you think?
No, because the lines of flux are perpendicular to the beam so the resulting forces on the charges (electrons) are parallel to the scanline, so do not deflect it.

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Why then is there maximum deflection of the scan line in that zone in the test here?


I knew you were gonna ask about this...

It is simple Bistander, in above settings the E-Beam Scanline Plane is PERPENDICULAR to the Dielectric Field Plane, therefore, both planes only INTERSECT at a center point, or line if we are talking about planes 3D...what I mean here is that Dielectric/Scanline Planes Intersection is reduced to a THIN LINE or a POINT on Screen...whichever way you wanna look at this... 2D or 3D...

While majority of magnetic forces from both polarizations (N-S) are EMANATING right from very CENTER area of magnet to DIVERT IN A SPIN towards each Spatial End Area in a 3D Curve which keeps pushing the Scanline Plane in the Spinning Direction of the whole Field (Both Poles Forcing plane in same direction), in above image we are seeing BOTH POLES SPINNING FORCES, in the same direction PUSHING Scanline Plane UPWARDS to top of screen.

Why HIGHER Deflection at Center of Screen?...simple, because there are exactly TWO FORCES PUSHING right at center Scanline Plane, while also DIVERGING (Splitting) away as well, which actually fades out forces as it turns in 3D away from screen TOWARDS both opposite ends, just like any curvy-linear or Torsion Force acts in SPACE, except here we have Dual Torsion Forces plus diverging (fading) away to both ends...

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No, because the lines of flux are perpendicular to the beam so the resulting forces on the charges (electrons) are parallel to the scanline, so do not deflect it.

Thanks again for the test.

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As you have noticed from all previous CRT images...this Electron Beam Scanline reveals perfectly well when it is precisely aligned in a PERPENDICULAR Fashion to the Field Planes/Axis (lines).

First when we project Magnetic Field Poles AXIS, where Spin REVOLVES in a 3D Plane, which is exactly Perpendicular to the Scanline Plane...then we clearly see each pole spinning direction.

Second, and as you have shown above...whenever the Scanline Plane is Perpendicular to the Dielectric Plane.

Third, in your proposed test Dielectric Plane was PARALLEL to Scanline Plane...so, no go, nothing, boring right?

Now, I agree that in order to fully understand what I am writing above...basically answering your first question, I will have to build the whole model in 3D View, where I show the Three Dimensional Curvatures coming out from center plane and flowing towards opposite extremes (Divergence) of the Magnetic Field Polarizations...while showing a Full 3D Scanline Plane on CRT only...without any black and opaque tube, but mainly the E-Beam Rastered Plane being TWISTED by the Magnetic Spinning Forces...

..and I will eventually do that further on...it must be on a video to capture the 3D Views plus animated dynamics of both 3d curvy-linear flows...


EDIT: We have to realize that this Magnetic Spatial Spins are PARTIAL
, and NOT fully 360 and continuous spins...otherwise we would have Free Energy by far and long time ago...plus MPM, etc,etc...Reason why we have to physically advance or retract magnetic embodiments in space to observe induction, so that these Partially aligned spins enter the induced coils and push an electron flow in a steady fashion...

Ken Wheeler did a beautiful work on this Spatial Curves Geometry where he concluded with a specific SEPARATION AND INCLINATION ANGLE in between each spin curved vector...


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I knew you were gonna ask about this...

It is simple Bistander, in above settings the E-Beam Scanline Plane is PERPENDICULAR to the Dielectric Field Plane, therefore, both planes only INTERSECT at a center point, or line if we are talking about planes 3D...what I mean here is that Dielectric/Scanline Planes Intersection is reduced to a THIN LINE or a POINT on Screen...whichever way you wanna look at this... 2D or 3D...

While majority of magnetic forces from both polarizations (N-S) are EMANATING right from very CENTER area of magnet to DIVERT IN A SPIN towards each Spatial End Area in a 3D Curve which keeps pushing the Scanline Plane in the Spinning Direction of the whole Field (Both Poles Forcing plane in same direction), in above image we are seeing BOTH POLES SPINNING FORCES, in the same direction PUSHING Scanline Plane UPWARDS to top of screen.

Why HIGHER Deflection at Center of Screen?...simple, because there are exactly TWO FORCES PUSHING right at center Scanline Plane, while also DIVERGING (Splitting) away as well, which actually fades out forces as it turns in 3D away from screen TOWARDS both opposite ends, just like any curvy-linear or Torsion Force acts in SPACE, except here we have Dual Torsion Forces plus diverging (fading) away to both ends...
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Hi Ufo,

I don't buy it. I think you're grasping for straws. There is no "dielectric field plane" or "equatorial plane". But that's your story, so carry on.

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I don't buy it. I think you're grasping for straws. There is no "dielectric field plane" or "equatorial plane". But that's your story, so carry on.

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Bistander, and am NOT selling nada...
You asked me about a test, and I did so, plus I knew your requested test was not to discuss in a normal way, but end it up in your typical disagreement fashion...
Now, how do you EXPLAIN EACH POLARIZATIONS OPPOSITE SPIN CLEARLY SHOWN?
PLUS demonstration of ONE FORCE SPIN when incorporated into 3D?
Do NOT wanna talk about that part huh?

I will end up saying THIS IS NOT ALL...NOT FINISHED YET, BUT JUST STARTING UP.


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Hi Ufo,

Sorry I interrupted your presentation with a bit of convention and logic. I'll shut up and let you continue after I address your last question.

I do not see spin on the CRT. Just the results of what can be fully explained by Lorentz Force Equation. That is the orthogonal relationship between the vectors of velocity (of the charge), magnetic field and force (on that charge).

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There is no "dielectric field plane" or "equatorial plane". But that's your story, so carry on.

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Right and so on -according to YOUR story- there is no Bloch or Nel Walls right at the exact center between two MAIN Domains or Magnetic Poles...Felix Bloch was just full of it...

In YOUR "Story" there is ONLY needed to "sprinkle some 'ol dusty iron filings" like in the Old Western Cowboy's "Technologies"...to see the REAL Magnetic Fields...all the rest is pure BS...right?

Keep going your way...carry on...but please do not interrupt me if you already know all my work...and so I know your thoughts.


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Sorry I interrupted your presentation with a bit of convention and logic.
That ain't logic, that ain't convention, that is purely imposing your beliefs over mine.



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I'll shut up and let you continue after I address your last question.

I do not see spin on the CRT. Just the results of what can be fully explained by Lorentz Force Equation. That is the orthogonal relationship between the vectors of velocity (of the charge), magnetic field and force (on that charge).

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You do not see a Spin here?...what is a CENTER steady point while two exterior forces are applied to this line following exactly same direction plus using identical radius distances from that center point?

But, please don't shut up...by all means, be my guest of honor here!!

I will completely stop posting and allow you to step in and start explaining all your bold out and underlined statements above about Lorentz Forces...

I really wanna enjoy you doing it here...

But I want you to do it with YOUR OWN GRAPHICS, YOUR OWN DIAGRAMS, YOUR OWN PICTURES AND YOUR OWN TESTINGS, AND WHATEVER OTHER VISUALS MEANS YOU WANT TO USE...

MEANING, DO IT just like I DO IT...With my own graphics and my own images and my own experiments.

So, nope, do not start downloading unrelated stuff from all over the net (like you normally do) then posting it here, because then I will ask Aaron for you to erase all your comments and then leave this (my) Thread...got it?

SO, PLEASE BE SPECIFIC ABOUT APPLYING LORENTZ ON THIS EXACT SCENARIO
: CRT HORIZONTAL & FRONTAL SCANLINE VERSUS THE TWO MAGNETIC POLARITIES...BEHAVIOR.

I wanna see your OWN 3D Volume Geometric Math here based on Lorentz Forces.

Have in mind that the "Charged Particle q" is negative here...and it is accelerated by Electron Beam Gun, plus rastered at around 15 Khz Field Reversals to produce that nice straight line on the fluorescent phosphoric material of screen.



Enjoy and am out of here...the room, microphones, lights and cameras are all yours!!


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Hi Ufo,

Thanks for the invite, but I decline. There are much better teachers and text on Lorentz than myself. I said I was done with the interruption in my previous post, and I am.

Folks should appreciate opposing points of view, don't you think?

I'm back to the sidelines,

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Thanks for the invite, but I decline. There are much better teachers and text on Lorentz than myself. I said I was done with the interruption in my previous post, and I am.
Hey Bistander,

Well, what can I say...your decline of my humble offer...in order for you to step in and clarify what you were so sure concluding with such simplicity it sounded like a "piece of cake"...only leave me room for disappointment and doubts as to the veracity of your conclusions and capability to demonstrate it.

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I'm back to the sidelines,

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But of course!!..

EXCEPT, the only problem being, Bistander...that you have stepped into my Thread, knowing that I BACK UP in a 100% Ken Wheeler's Theories and Claims FOR A HECK OF A LONG TIME...and that I have made so many EXPENSIVE YT videos, so many comments on this Forum, on so many Threads about the SAME EXACT CLAIMS...in order to demonstrate them, PLUS BACKUP ALL THESE THEORIES...WORK which has been going on for years by now...and still is right here.

But then you've decided to step in just to tell me, at this stage in time...about your position -WHICH I KNOW FOR SUCH LONG TIME- related to Dielectric Field Planes or Equatorial Planes or Bloch Walls...like it is all about a "NEW DISCUSSION"...AND IT AIN'T!!!

We all know you by now, Bistander, and there is absolutely no need, every time anyone mentions the word "Dielectric Field" that you have to jump like some sort of high compressed then all the sudden released spring...or a Jumping Jack Flash.

What I still can not "catch up" (understand) about your behavior -except for the purpose of disruption- is why do you still need to step in -every time- to deny any theories that rise around you, just because you have the belief that your still CLASSIC THEORIES are the right ones?...because YOU THINK, because YOU BELIEVE You HOLD THE TRUTH in your hands...and so NO ONE ELSE CAN?!

Is that why Bistander?

IF SO...Then PLEASE, GO AND REVIVE THE ORIGINAL OLD THREAD BY KEN WHEELER, WHERE THOSE THEORIES WERE PRESENTED ORIGINALLY HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME...:

UNCOVERING THE MISSING SECRETS OF MAGNETISM

Then seat down and wait to see if Ken comes by to respond or SOMEONE ELSE AROUND HERE DOES YOU, THE FAVOR TO ANSWER...

Do NOT count on me...am too busy.


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Motors and generators have been converting energy and doing work for humankind for nearly two centuries. These machines must number in the billions. They all have been designed and operate based on these classic principles which I have learned and attempt to teach. How many joules of work have been done by a machine designed using Mr. Wheeler's theories? Not one.

I can't compete with your graphic skills or Ken's vocabulary. I just have millions of engineers and scientists on my side and an enlightened and electrified society to prove it.

You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.

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What kind of work have ELECTRIC MOTORS being doing for the past 200 years??!!

-Apart from propelling fans, exhausting and heat sinking HEAT?
-Apart from powering SOME small tools, lifting windows in vehicles and running paper and rolling color cartridges in jet printers?
- Apart from running dirty laundry on Electrical Washers and Dryers...or Hairdriers?
- Plus all the minor and LIGHT INDUSTRY NEEDS?

NOW, IN ALL THOSE 200 YEARS, TELL ME...WHEN HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ELECTRIC MOTOR POWERING:

1- OR LIFTING UP AND FLYING A Heavy Aircraft like a JUMBO 747 POWERED by ELECTROMAGNETIC TURBINES?

2- PROPELLING A CRUISE-LINER SHIP THROUGH OUR OCEANS?

3- And so, RUNNING A GREYHOUND BUS FULL OF PASSENGERS OR AN EIGHTEEN WHEELER PETER-BUILT LOAD TRUCK?

4- OR CONSTRUCTION HEAVY EQUIPMENT, LIKE BACKHOES, CATERPILLARS, ROLLERS, CRANES, ETC,ETC??

LET ME ANSWER FOR YOU...


NEVER, EVER IN 200 YEARS!!

ONLY IN KID'S TOYS Bistander...


ALL THIS "HERCULEAN WORK" HAS BEEN DONE ALL THESE TWO HUNDRED YEARS BY THE STINKING, FARTING AND ETERNAL LEAKING GAS AND DIESEL MACHINES!!!

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT GENERATORS?...REALLY?


I would just ask you a simple question...

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN ELECTRIC GENERATOR RUN BY AN ELECTRIC MOTOR IN ANY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX OR EVEN IN A SMALL HOUSE?

NEVER LAND!!

SO WHAT ARE YOU ALL PROUD OFF ABOUT ALL THIS "ACHIEVEMENTS BY ELECTRIC MOTORS AND GENERATORS IN ALL THESE 200 YEARS??


TO BE CONTINUED...
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How many joules of work have been done by a machine designed using Mr. Wheeler's theories? Not one.
Faraday put forward a Theory only proven by small models...and so MANY OPPOSED to those explanations, basically the "Mathematicians" of his times...until James Clerk Maxwell stepped in...

And by having people like you, that constantly interfere, INTERRUPTS, anytime someone tries to explain any Theory other than the DOGMATIC CLASSIC ONE that YOU DEFEND...Then it would be much harder to ever come up with a Machine based on those Theories which YOU and many OTHERS HERE try TO BLOCK ALL THE TIME!!!

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I can't compete with your graphic skills

But CAN YOU COMPETE with my BUILDING SKILLS?
...I am pretty sure you COULD!!...HOWEVER, I HAVE BEVER SEEN YOU BUILD NADA, WHETHER TO PROVE WRONG OR RIGHT ANY CLAIMS DONE ON THIS FORUM!!

ALL YOU DO HERE, is "step in" and then blablablabla and then MORE BLABLABLABLABLA...then bring stuff from all over the net which REINFORCES your 200 YEARS obsolete and DOGMATIC Theories.


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I just have millions of engineers and scientists on my side and an enlightened and electrified society to prove it.
You ONLY HAVE MILLIONS of PEOPLE who were TAUGHT THE VERY WRONG AND DOGMATIC SCIENCES.

BY WHOM?...BY GE CORPORATIONS, BY THOMAS ALVA EDISON CRAPPY WORK, BY ROCKEFELLER UNIVERSITY, TEACHING DOGMAS THAT DO NOT ALLOW ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING WHICH COULD ENDANGER THEIR LIFESTYLES BASED ON OIL EXPLOITATION FOR 200 YEARS!!

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You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.

Regards,

bi

The day you come here and show me ELECTRIC MOTORS RUNNING "JUST" ALL THE FOUR (1,2,3,4) ITEMIZED BRANCHES OF THE INDUSTRY I HAVE CITED ABOVE...THEN I WILL STOP POSTING HERE.

The DAY A TESLA ELECTROMAGNETIC VEHICLE , OR ANY OTHER ONE could run from Florida to Alaska WITHOUT "RECHARGING" ...A NON STOP "FLIGHT"!!!...THEN I WILL STOP INSISTING ON NEWER THEORIES!!!

And I only HOPE, AND WISH THAT DAY COMES ANYTIME SOON...



God Bless You.



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I do not see spin on the CRT.

Respectfully and regards,

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So, YOU do not "SEE" a CLEAR SPIN on the CRT whenever we approach a NORTH or a SOUTH?


Really?...SO, please allow me to explain it in FIRST GRADE SIMPLE GEOMETRY like to an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KID:



So, above we have a BLUE LINE "L", which could be a simple LEVER.

Then we have a PIVOT POINT IN the RED CIRCLE, located EXACTLY at CENTER of BLUE LINE "L"

Now we will apply FORCES "F1"+"F2" to BLUE LINE "L" In such fashion that FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" follow OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS as seen above...

Both FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" are EQUIDISTANT TO CENTER PIVOT POINT IN RED CIRCLE, This DISTANCE IS NAMED "D1"...which establishes what is known as a RADIUS DISTANCE BETWEEN POINTS WHERE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE ACTUATING.

AFTER FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE APPLIED OVER BLUE LINE "L", and according to simple PHYSICS LAWS...BLUE LINE "L" TAKES THE POSITION L'...

So, my dear Elementary School Student Bistander, from First Grade Class of Simple Geometry...we then can conclude that :

WE HAVE ROTATED OR SPUN (PAST TENSE OF SPIN) THE BLUE LINE "L", DUE TO THE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" FROM THE CENTER POINT IN THE RED CIRCLE.

Now in case you still have not seen any Spins or Rotations on above Image...I took the time to make same image but with a BLACK BACKGROUND, in order to stand out all the components in the explanation...Yes, I know I am a good teacher...



And by now...if you still do not see any spins in BOTH IMAGES above, My dear Student....then I will have no other recourse but to submit you to the Psychology Dept. of the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL to run some tests...JUST BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE A SYNDROME OF ATTENTION...OR WHAT IS CALLED ADHD:

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Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a mental disorder of the neurodevelopmental type. It is characterized by problems paying attention, excessive activity, or difficulty controlling behavior which is not appropriate for a person's age.

Even though I hope to see you soon in my next class...


Be a good kid and stay out of trouble.


God Bless You


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Hi Ufo,

Many of the vehicles in groups 2, 3 & 4 do use electric motor propulsion systems. And electric powered aircraft is rapid developing. I have seen where NASA has worked on an electric 747.

What about high speed rail. The fastest trains in the world are electric. And that power could easily be generated by hydro or renewable sources not using carbon emitting technology.

I am actually attempting to help you. Pointing out a flaw or discrepancy in your theories could be constructive criticism leading to deeper uderstanding. But taking a defensive posture is only human nature.

BTW, I've said before. Show me an over unity machine and I'll replicate it. I've built and tested many energy machines which I knew would work. I avoid building stuff I know won't work.

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Many of the vehicles in groups 2, 3 & 4 do use electric motor propulsion systems. And electric powered aircraft is rapid developing. I have seen where NASA has worked on an electric 747.
Yeah, sure...SO MANY BEAUTIFUL "PROTOTYPES" ...that would never make it to the Market...same ol story...for another 200 years more.

NASA?...PLEASE DON'T BRING NASA HERE!!!....SIMPLY: SPACE X A "NEW IN TOWN" PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION by ELON MUSK, a guy that just "walked in" have achieved what NASA with all the MONEY IN THE WORLD PLUS ALL THE TIME THEY HAVE BEEN "ESTABLISHED"...BIG MONEY they have stolen from Government Funds PLUS ALL CONTRIBUTORS...HAVE NEVER BEING ABLE TO LAND BACK THE FIRST STAGE PROPULSION ENGINES WITH THEIR HUGE TANKS AND SOOO SYNCHRONIZED LIKE SPACE X DID!!!



THEN LANDS MAIN ROCKET IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEA...



ALL NASA HAS DONE IS BLOW THEM OUT IN THE SKY BEFORE LEAVING EARTH ATMOSPHERE

NASA HAS DEVELOPED -OVER SO MANY YEARS- A "BEST" COST OF AROUND 10,000 USD per POUND to be "LIFTED" THEN SENT to SPACE...WHILE, SPACE X IS DOING IT FOR 1,000 USD/POUND...!!

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What about high speed rail. The fastest trains in the world are electric. And that power could easily be generated by hydro or renewable sources not using carbon emitting technology.
High Speed Rails (TRAINS) are BS to bring it into this conversation...and you know exactly why.

High Speed Rails Vehicles require SUPER MEGA CONSTRUCTIONS, in order to Provide POWER ON THE TRACKS THROUGH ALL DESTINATIONS...LAUGHABLE PROJECTS, REALLY!!

Oh, but surely they could run over and over without any "recharge" right?
B.S...They feed off the track lines...or just like the San Francisco Old Cable Trolleybuses built near the Western Cowboys Stories...?

Counting that as an "ACHIEVEMENT"?...PLEASE, DO NOT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE BISTANDER!!

All that was is Pathetic and Ridiculous!!

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I am actually attempting to help you. Pointing out a flaw or discrepancy in your theories could be constructive criticism leading to deeper uderstanding. But taking a defensive posture is only human nature.
Thanks but nope thanks!

I do not need your "kind" of help Bistander, where you completely refuse to see a ROTATION or a SPIN, where CLEARLY THERE IS ONE.

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That's a very comfortable position you have MAN!!!

Wait till someone BRAKES HIS BACK, WASTES HIS MONEY, TESTING, BUILDING, TESTING AGAIN, HAVING FRUSTRATIONS BACK AND FORTH...SO, THEN VERY EASILY, YOU, MR BISTANDER, JUST "STEPS IN" AND "REPLICATE IT SUCCESSFULLY"....

REALLY?

NOPE!!...IF YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WRITE A DENIAL UPON ANY STATED CLAIM, THEN YOU MUST BUILD IT TO PROVE IT EITHER RIGHT OR WRONG, BESIDES HELPING THE OTHER MEMBER TO ACHIEVE IT RIGHT!!!....

THAT IS WHAT IS NEEDED HERE!!!


UNLESS YOU ARE A PAID SHILL, TO JUST CONSTANTLY INTERFERE WITH ANY NEW THEORIES AND DESTROY THEM FOR A FEE.

And I honestly believe-and hoping- you are NOT one of those DISGUSTING HUMAN BEINGS.


Regards


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So, YOU do not "SEE" a CLEAR SPIN on the CRT whenever we approach a NORTH or a SOUTH?

Really?...SO, please allow me to explain it in FIRST GRADE SIMPLE GEOMETRY like to an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KID:



So, above we have a BLUE LINE "L", which could be a simple LEVER.

Then we have a PIVOT POINT IN the RED CIRCLE, located EXACTLY at CENTER of BLUE LINE "L"

Now we will apply FORCES "F1"+"F2" to BLUE LINE "L" In such fashion that FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" follow OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS as seen above...

Both FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" are EQUIDISTANT TO CENTER PIVOT POINT IN RED CIRCLE, This DISTANCE IS NAMED "D1"...which establishes what is known as a RADIUS DISTANCE BETWEEN POINTS WHERE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE ACTUATING.

AFTER FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" ARE APPLIED OVER BLUE LINE "L", and according to simple PHYSICS LAWS...BLUE LINE "L" TAKES THE POSITION L'...

So, my dear Elementary School Student Bistander, from First Grade Class of Simple Geometry...we then can conclude that :

WE HAVE ROTATED OR SPUN (PAST TENSE OF SPIN) THE BLUE LINE "L", DUE TO THE FORCES "F1" PLUS "F2" FROM THE CENTER POINT IN THE RED CIRCLE.

Now in case you still have not seen any Spins or Rotations on above Image...I took the time to make same image but with a BLACK BACKGROUND, in order to stand out all the components in the explanation...Yes, I know I am a good teacher...



And by now...if you still do not see any spins in BOTH IMAGES above, My dear Student....then I will have no other recourse but to submit you to the Psychology Dept. of the ELEMENTARY SCHOOL to run some tests...JUST BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE A SYNDROME OF ATTENTION...OR WHAT IS CALLED ADHD

Even though I hope to see you soon in my next class...


Be a good kid and stay out of trouble.


God Bless You


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Let me know whenever you do...


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But no OU in sight.

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But no OU in sight.

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No ANTS HERE PLEASE!!


HEEEEELP, bring the PEST CONTROL!!!


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I see displacement. Remember that the force is on the beam, not the scanline.

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