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Old 05-31-2017, 01:34 PM
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Resonating inductance coils

Some years ago I saw a video in the net about resonating LC tank energy transfer. It was very similar to the theories proposed by other people along the years.

It's like radio station: you can tune the receiving circuit to match the frequency of the emitting circuit. So, in theory, the receiver doesn't depletes the emitter.

The circuit is composed of:
  • Signal generator
  • Ferrite bar
  • 2 inductors
  • 2 capacitors
  • 2 incandescent light bulbs 12 volts 0.3 amps
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Like this one.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQdcwDCBoNY
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I did some tests along these lines and got 98% efficiency of energy transfer.
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Exactly. I wasn't able to find the video, but I was refering to that one.

Also, I wanted to do some modifications to that circuit.

Instead of using a LC tank as the emitter, I want to use a zero inductance coil and try also with capacitive coil.
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The design software helps find the right parts
running the software on a chip such as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uketED1Gmjg
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the resonance don't produce over unity but it produce unity condition or high efficiency , over unity must be implemented in the geometry itself, this mean to convert reactive into active , we can produce reactive using a very tiny amount of power in high voltage environment where the current is an imaginary part .. the correct geometry convert this imaginary part into real current taking it from the earth or the surrounding air or both of them..
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Hi, I wonder if there is a particular strategy or formula for choosing the most effective combination of L and C.? For instance I dont see a 2 Henry coil going that well with a 1 pico Farad capacitor. An extreme example but just to make a point.
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Hi, I wonder if there is a particular strategy or formula for choosing the most effective combination of L and C.? For instance I dont see a 2 Henry coil going that well with a 1 pico Farad capacitor. An extreme example but just to make a point.
teh old electronics books would sometimes have a chart of L and C values on the sides with frequency drown as lines through the chart
pretty handy for getting values close to what you need.
here is one of them drawn another way that I have never seen before, but seems more useful
http://www.geocities.ws/sounddoctrin.../nomogram3.gif
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Since the time of the video on the LT3791 engineers recommend using
the updated LT8391 for better availability.

The LT8391 demo board manual pdf
One demo board is not modified and is used as a control.
http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/demo-b...l/DC2345AF.PDF

98% is definitely well tuned so an outside influence could be easily determined.
By seeing small improvements with least energy expenditure might give some clues.
It could eventually be used as an over unity anomaly probe.
If someone could actually stimulate the circuit to perform more
efficiently then that stimulus energy used could be included in the calculation.

The signals on the scope may give some indication of what it is.
Then an open architecture of the board could be modified to
improve the experiment.
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med.3012 is right.

Around our circuits there is the reaction of ambient medium -Earth magnetic field.The Aspden effect. Kapanadze, Barbosa&Leal, probably Hubbard and Hendershot and many others just used this effect.
That is the cause for the radiant energy, the problem which Tesla solved for Edison generators and so on. This is the future of our energy generation...if the politicians do not violently oppose the idea.The distributed ,off-grid energy taken from Earth field in small amounts equally around the globe.
The wheelwork of nature.
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:24 AM
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wheel work is in part
The birkeland currents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JST8NHoAAcA

The argument is not who is right.
The subject of resonance and circuits shows that in these latter
design configurations ( LT8391 )
a very very small synchronous signal allows harmony.
I cannot tell you The aetheric geometry. Year after year the software
has been crunching out better and better designs and this is one
of the better combinations. The resonance scheme approaches unity
because it is in closer harmony with the aether.
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Old 06-01-2017, 07:59 AM
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Thanks for the impedance chart spacecase0, it does reveal some relationships quite well. Very economical, I am interested to see how much energy is held in a tank circuit at say 12 volts. Could be useful even if one needs lots of little ones,

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the resonance don't produce over unity but it produce unity condition or high efficiency , over unity must be implemented in the geometry itself, this mean to convert reactive into active , we can produce reactive using a very tiny amount of power in high voltage environment where the current is an imaginary part .. the correct geometry convert this imaginary part into real current taking it from the earth or the surrounding air or both of them..
Hello med,

Just as you say... one of the techniques is to use (and maintain) reactive power in the input and get active power in the output. This is what Tesla said "to blind the transformer". That means that the input "doesn't see" what is happening in the output.

It seems that there are different techniques to accomplish this goal. One of them can be partially seen in the bi-toroid transformer of Thane Heins. But it is not the only one.
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med.3012 is right.

Around our circuits there is the reaction of ambient medium -Earth magnetic field.The Aspden effect. Kapanadze, Barbosa&Leal, probably Hubbard and Hendershot and many others just used this effect.
That is the cause for the radiant energy, the problem which Tesla solved for Edison generators and so on. This is the future of our energy generation...if the politicians do not violently oppose the idea.The distributed ,off-grid energy taken from Earth field in small amounts equally around the globe.
The wheelwork of nature.
Of course, it seems that.

The idea is to use that reaction from the ambient that is caused by the "emitter" circuit and absorb that energy-from-the-ambient using the receivers.
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med.3012 is right.

Around our circuits there is the reaction of ambient medium -Earth magnetic field.The Aspden effect. Kapanadze, Barbosa&Leal, probably Hubbard and Hendershot and many others just used this effect.
That is the cause for the radiant energy, the problem which Tesla solved for Edison generators and so on. This is the future of our energy generation...if the politicians do not violently oppose the idea.The distributed ,off-grid energy taken from Earth field in small amounts equally around the globe.
The wheelwork of nature.
As you know, there are some videos in youtube which show Tesla's coils. There is a sparking emitter and, when you approach a second (high turns) coil, the coil you approach also starts to spark.

There are different videos on youtube that show this effect. But this is maybe the best one I have seen:
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As you know, there are some videos in youtube which show Tesla's coils. There is a sparking emitter and, when you approach a second (high turns) coil, the coil you approach also starts to spark.
The effect that you describe is simply the effect of tuning and (external/burden) capacitance. Your body capacitance affects the tuning of the coil as you get near it. So it becomes resonant, or not, depending on where you are standing.

Example: Tune a receiver to just ABOVE resonant frequency. Nothing happens. Now put your hand near the receiver. Your body capacitance lowers resonant frequency of receiver, receiver starts to output energy. Remove hand, received energy diminishes.

Conversely, stand well back, tune the receiver to resonance through ADDING capacitance, and receiver outputs energy when you are nowhere near it. Now when you place your hand near it, your body capacitance throws it OUT of resonance. Received energy diminishes due to your body capacitance causing the receiver to be tuned to LOWER than resonant frequency.

The wheel work of nature can just as well be to use a solar panel, or a water or wind turbine. Tesla would have been pleased with the invention of solar panels.
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Solar panels ? Well... still too costly , to cumbersome. Compare it to Kapanadze device or Barbosa&Leal. 10 times cheaper, no complicated mounting, works at night and so on...
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Solar panels ? Well... still too costly , to cumbersome. Compare it to Kapanadze device or Barbosa&Leal. 10 times cheaper, no complicated mounting, works at night and so on...
It's an improvement on his U.S. patent 685,957 Apparatus For The Utilization Of Radiant Energy

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p...s/US685957.pdf

Also when you buy a solar panel, it works like the datasheet says, which is what the consumer wants, and what they are paying for. Joe Sixpack isn't interested in experimenting and tweaking things indefinitely until it (maybe) works like the advert (youtube) said it would. So I stand by the fact that Tesla would have been pleased with the invention of solar panels. Harnessing the energy of the sun to power electrical machinery without burning fuel, perfect. Just what he said.
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It's an improvement on his U.S. patent 685,957 Apparatus For The Utilization Of Radiant Energy

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p...s/US685957.pdf

Also when you buy a solar panel, it works like the datasheet says, which is what the consumer wants, and what they are paying for. Joe Sixpack isn't interested in experimenting and tweaking things indefinitely until it (maybe) works like the advert (youtube) said it would. So I stand by the fact that Tesla would have been pleased with the invention of solar panels. Harnessing the energy of the sun to power electrical machinery without burning fuel, perfect. Just what he said.
I don't think so. Does solar panel work at night ? Does solar panel collect cosmic rays ? Radiant energy as known by Tesla is something completely different - a longitudinal wave in magnetic field...or the "true wireless" :-)
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I don't think so. Does solar panel work at night ? Does solar panel collect cosmic rays ? Radiant energy as known by Tesla is something completely different - a longitudinal wave in magnetic field...or the "true wireless" :-)
It's getting off topic, but are you considering the physical structure of the thing? What size plate do you need in Tesla's patent? How much power do you get relative to the plate size? A solar panel "can work at night" if there's a full moon, but that doesn't say anything about what size it is and how much power you would get. If it was possible to use a 1x1 metre metal plate to get more power than a solar panel of the same size, then why are you not doing it? They are not comparable in that way, therefore a solar panel is still the much more practical solution. The weather that drives water and wind turbines and solar panels all comes from the sun, so it's not possible to attach your machinery to the wheel work of nature any more than that. You can only search for "alternative sources" that do exactly the same thing in a different way.

"Radiant" energy simply means radiated energy, as in radiation - "the process in which energy is emitted as particles or waves".

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When the radiations of the sun or other radiant source fall upon plate P, a current flows into the condenser, as above explained, until the potential therein rises sufficiently to attract and bring into contact the two plates t t', and thereby close the circuit connected to the two condenser-terminals.
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Solar panels ? Well... still too costly , to cumbersome. Compare it to Kapanadze device or Barbosa&Leal. 10 times cheaper, no complicated mounting, works at night and so on...
If this would be the case in reality. Please answer why you do not have one of these cheaper and more efficient devices buzzing happily away in your home?
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If this would be the case in reality. Please answer why you do not have one of these cheaper and more efficient devices buzzing happily away in your home?
That's only a social problem. Scientist, politicians, big business,doctors,engineers - everybody with a good salary, respectable social position would not let his position to be limited.
If people would need not much , be healthy,have free energy and more possibilities to learn and have free time for hobby - every people would become equally free and many jobs would become obsolete or less paid.
I'm sure Kapanadze,Steven Mark,Barbosa&Leal are real devices with COP =100 or more. How would that treat the heat pumps market ?
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Yo Slick Dick ,

If this technology wasn't real , would you and those like you be on this forum ?

I think not!!!


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More and more people build free energy devices..... check Wesley channel for a cumulative report on most of them : https://www.youtube.com/user/stivep1/videos
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If this technology wasn't real , would you and those like you be on this forum ?

I think not!!!


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The contrary seems to be the case.

The fact that you and many (all) are still here 1, 3, 5, 9 years later, is the fact you do have not a have a "cheaper, more efficient, less cumbersome" device buzzing away giving you "free" energy. Otherwise this forum would be obsolete.

The whole energy "problem" would be gone. A solar panel, no matter how cumbersome, bought at the time you registered on this forum would have been your best "free" energy investment till date.

As for me. I am not here in (re)search for a "free" lunch, also I am not here to battle with, suppress, or block any other attempt in any quest for any individual on this forum either. But thank you for you assumption.

There are Gemstones to find here. Many of these "little" gems published (here or on other similar websites) during the last 8 years i have witnessed have found their way in current circuit design for the sole purpose of efficiency. Today the holy grail in reality (mobile phones, computer chips and so on) Big money is in on efficiency.

Also there are one or two BIG Gemstones found on this forum, though not popular here because it requires more then just to salvage the scavenge yard for free parts. It will need proper materials, scientific approach and so on. It will take more then just a youtube vid to show evidence of one who does not understand or lacks the knowledge of establishing a proper way of how the measure the initial proposal, if there was any proper proposal in the first place. Many of the "respected" replicators seem to fall into this category.

"Overunity?" Yes! Free lunch? No! Hell no!

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Just to illustrate my point

http://www.energeticforum.com/301903-post7.html

The student lecturing the master.

It is sad.. no due dilligence... I am sure Mohamed is a good guy.. but there is no captain on the ship. This is just one example....

That said... have a good one
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http://www.energeticforum.com/301903-post7.html

The student lecturing the master.

It is sad.. no due dilligence... I am sure Mohamed is a good guy.. but there is no captain on the ship. This is just one example....

That said... have a good one



first of all thank you for you words .. there's no choice ! we could continue exploring this amazing field or we could just stop and be a part from the crowd.. we know more than 99 % of earth population what can this technology do for us .. i see it as a kind of great responsibility , the mother earth is our ship .. the captain is our feeling of duty ..

we don't know what's hidden is the future .. everything can be changed in a very short moment .. shorten than what we may think ..
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The contrary seems to be the case.

The fact that you and many (all) are still here 1, 3, 5, 9 years later, is the fact you do have not a have a "cheaper, more efficient, less cumbersome" device buzzing away giving you "free" energy. Otherwise this forum would be obsolete.

The whole energy "problem" would be gone. A solar panel, no matter how cumbersome, bought at the time you registered on this forum would have been your best "free" energy investment till date.

As for me. I am not here in (re)search for a "free" lunch, also I am not here to battle with, suppress, or block any other attempt in any quest for any individual on this forum either. But thank you for you assumption.

There are Gemstones to find here. Many of these "little" gems published (here or on other similar websites) during the last 8 years i have witnessed have found their way in current circuit design for the sole purpose of efficiency. Today the holy grail in reality (mobile phones, computer chips and so on) Big money is in on efficiency.

Also there are one or two BIG Gemstones found on this forum, though not popular here because it requires more then just to salvage the scavenge yard for free parts. It will need proper materials, scientific approach and so on. It will take more then just a youtube vid to show evidence of one who does not understand or lacks the knowledge of establishing a proper way of how the measure the initial proposal, if there was any proper proposal in the first place. Many of the "respected" replicators seem to fall into this category.

"Overunity?" Yes! Free lunch? No! Hell no!

I stand by my words and make no assumations about anyone. .
Your very post proves the correctness of my statement.
As for measurement of power, if it isn't readly apparent to you, then you do not have it.
And as of your post that all here don't have it ; must be the same for you too.


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the resonance don't produce over unity but it produce unity condition or high efficiency , over unity must be implemented in the geometry itself, this mean to convert reactive into active , we can produce reactive using a very tiny amount of power in high voltage environment where the current is an imaginary part .. the correct geometry convert this imaginary part into real current taking it from the earth or the surrounding air or both of them..
Med your comment is misleading. There is more than resonance in
this very high efficiency regulator. The narrative that you assert does not
allow others to advance.

The aether is not what you claim at all. The fact is that you reject
a simple regulator explaining how to explore uncharted waters
and where is Zilano and where is Slovenia and the others ?
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