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Arrow Moving that "Massless, Weightless and Invisible" Magnetic Field - PART 1

Hello to All,

I would use this PART 1 Thread by exposing the Simplest Forms about using (meaning to different connections/excitement plus winding methods) of a Bifilar (or Multifilar Coils System), basically to be applied-for now- to Motion-Less Generators type, like the Clemente Figuera Principle...even though I will not keep the exact configurations as shown on his 1908 Patent.

THE BASIC AND SIMPLEST CONFIGURATION:

[IMG][/IMG]

On above Image we see a cylindrical Bifilar Coil...that I am sourcing ALTERNATED POSITIVE PULSES (V+1 & V+2) to each OPPOSED Terminals at the extreme of the iron core. So far I am using my small motor-rotary switch to alternate pulses...and a common ground to each other end terminal.

Now let's look at what is taking place related to the Massless, Weightless Magnetic Field...

By doing the above alternated and sequential pulses, we are creating Two ALTERNATED Opposite Fields Vectors...and they do not cancel each others, as Both take place at different timings, even though Both Occupy same exact Spatial Volumes.

And I have displayed N1-S1 as the Field generated by the V+1 Pulses.

As N2-S2 for the Field Polarization created by V+2 Pulses.

Almost everyone here knows that whenever we pulse an INDUCTOR to then cut the power (Off Time)its Current Flow REVERSES its direction for the time off (actually this is the main principle of the DC-DC Switching Boosters and Buck Boosters based on inductors)...right?...right...

So, looking at above Image (again) we will obtain same deal, except that every time Coil is at Off Time, its currents would be ASSISTING the same flow direction as the coil being energized. Creating a MUTUAL BACK AND FORTH ASSISTANCE in every Cycle or Frequency.

This fact, lowers our Input from Source as we increase RPM's or Frequency...

CURRENT 1 DIRECTION would be driven by V+1 Pulses at On and Off Times.

CURRENT 2 DIRECTION would be driven by V+2 Pulses at On and Off Times.

I am displaying Off Flow in Black...and On Flow in Red Arrows for both Green and Gold Coils Currents Directions.


To be continued...
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LC TANK Assisting Circuit...

LC TANK CIRCUIT ASSISTING MAGNETISM AND CURRENTS FLOW

Further on...in prior simple circuit image...by adding a Capacitor to just one of the Bifilar winding...we have:

[IMG][/IMG]

And what takes place here is very interesting...

The Green Coil Energized by V+1 Pulses would be-not only generating a Magnetic Field- but ALSO INDUCING its Currents Flow plus Voltage into the Gold Coil connected to the Cap, the Cap value can NOT be too high...as this works based on flash pulses which would increase based on the frequency of the pulses.

I am using starting caps from an AC Motor, which are 460-552 mfd 110/125VAC

Now, as I accelerate RPM's on my small rotary switch...we see below Scope signal:

[IMG][/IMG]

The Yellow channel is the V+1 Pulses, which are basically about 120 of continuous positive brush sweep at commutator elements contacts joint together...for some reason it works better than a full 180-160 cycle.

Now, both channel probes are at attenuation mode of 10X, and set at the same exact settings...however, we could notice the Blue channel is mirroring Yellow signal at a higher output, thanks to the constant "bouncing" back and forth from the L-C (Inductor-Cap) exchange...

Now, when I reach Operating Frequency of 3600RPM's/60 Hertz...note what takes place:

[IMG][/IMG]

The higher the frequency, the higher the signal from the Blue Channel LC Tank Circuit...and of course, because of Both Coils continuous self assistance at every cycle, also the Yellow (Input from Source) increases on its own, HOWEVER, always below Tank Circuit.


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Almost everyone here knows that whenever we pulse an INDUCTOR to then cut the power (Off Time)its Current Flow REVERSES its direction for the time off (actually this is the main principle of the DC-DC Switching Boosters and Buck Boosters based on inductors)...right?...right...

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Wrong.

Hi Ufo,

I thought it was just Allen, but now you? The current in the inductor does not reverse as the field collapses when the source is disconnected. The current continues in the same direction in the inductor winding. The induced voltage on the coil during collapse will be opposite from the voltage across the coil during charge. The inserted graph in my reply to Allen shows it nicely. Current is positive during charge and discharge.

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Hi Allen,

Your terminology is confusing. "BEMF current"? What is it? A voltage? Or a current? Can't be both.

The behavior of voltage across the inductor and current through the inductor is well established during the storing of energy (building the magnetic field) and during the decaying of the energy (collapsing magnetic field).



As you can see, IL (current through the inductor) is in the same direction for both the storage and the decay phase. VL (voltage across the inductor)is opposite polarity for the decay phase.

Hope that helps,

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Pos or neg current

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Thanks, back to the original question do we have pos and neg current?

Answer from bistander:

"Typically it is arbitrary. In circuit analysis you assign a direction to each current at the nodes. Typically one uses arrows on the schematic to represent these assigned current directions. Then when the actual values of the currents are calculated, if the assignment arrow was backwards, the numerical value will be negative.

Study Kirchoff's Laws of circuit analysis. KCL & KVL"

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Wrong.

Hi Ufo,

I thought it was just Allen, but now you? The current in the inductor does not reverse as the field collapses when the source is disconnected. The current continues in the same direction in the inductor winding. The induced voltage on the coil during collapse will be opposite from the voltage across the coil during charge. The inserted graph in my reply to Allen shows it nicely. Current is positive during charge and discharge.

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Hello Bistander,

Well, then we both could just use the term "Electrical Flow" as a general concept...which according to Electricity, Voltage is not a displacement of Electrons or about any kind of flow at all, right?...but just the Differential between charged terminals correct?

I am pretty sure you are very familiar with the example I have cited before:

Inductors based switching power converters...remember that when the inductor is Off (collapsing field)...the electric flow passes the diode to the end of circuit cap?

While when it is On, Diode blocks flow to charge inductor.

Yes I know you would tell me voltage terminals reversed, reason why diode allowed flow...so, what is it that went through the diode to the converter output Capacitor then?...Voltage with no current?

At the end it is a simple concept...a "Current Ramp" Up and then down, due to the Voltage rise at the end output of the circuit when flow passes diode:

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A basic boost configuration is depicted in Figure 5. Assuming that the switch has been open for a long time and that the voltage drop across the diode is negative, the voltage across the capacitor is equal to the input voltage. When the switch closes, the input voltage, +VIN, is impressed across the inductor and the diode prevents the capacitor from discharging +VOUT to ground. Because the input voltage is DC, current through the inductor rises linearly with time at a rate proportional to the input voltage divided by the inductance.

Discharge Phase



Figure 6 shows the discharge phase. When the switch opens again, the inductor current continues to flow into the rectification diode to charge the output. As the output voltage rises, the slope of the current, di/dt, though the inductor reverses. The output voltage rises until equilibrium is reached or:

VL = L di/dt

In other words, the higher the inductor voltage, the faster the inductor current drops.

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Hello to All.

Again, no "theoretical concepts" are going to stop Me from disclosing the results that I have arrived to, no matter what is being taught or shown before.

The MAIN PART that I am most concern with, relates specifically to Magnetic Fields DISPLACEMENT and "CHANGES" (as stated in Faraday's Induction Laws) which eventually will lead Us all to be able to generate ELECTRICAL FLOW without the need to move the massive IRON CORES and COPPER CONDUCTORS...but just by INCREASING THAT CHANGE OF RATE FROM:

THE VIRTUAL, MASSLESS, WEIGHTLESS AND TRANSPARENT MAGNETIC FIELDS

But it really does not bothers me at all that You, Bistander or Citfta...or anyone who wants to join...rectifies based on their acquired knowledge...which is excellent...

so please be all my guests and welcome in.


I got all the right Cards on my side on this "Game"...so, make ALL your bets...and bet generously please...


So I can take all your bets at the end...


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Current Ramp, versus Inductor Charge-Discharge

Below is a nice graph from same link I have posted before, that shows the relation through time from the Inductor Charge Time to Discharge Time PERFECTLY ALIGNED with CURRENT RAMPING UP (at Charging stage) plus RAMPING DOWN at OUTPUT STAGE:



Note that at Inductor Discharge INTERVALS (Collapse or Idle Time or OFF Time etc) when its V is negative (below zero), look at Current RAMPING DOWN at Output...just because it passed Diode and is now at output Cap.

Note also that Ramping Out of Current interval is much longer (delayed) than Ramp Up during Inductor Charge Time, which is of course shorter than discharge time when it reverses voltage.


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Kirchoff's Law

"Current is a signed (positive or negative) quantity reflecting direction towards or away from a node".

Applying this part of Kirchoff's law:

Current travels from the power source toward the inductor and is signed positive quantity; Then when current is interrupted to the inductor, the magnetic field collapses and current travels away from the inductor and is signed negative quantity!
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Thanks, back to the original question do we have pos and neg current?

Answer from bistander:

"Typically it is arbitrary. In circuit analysis you assign a direction to each current at the nodes. Typically one uses arrows on the schematic to represent these assigned current directions. Then when the actual values of the currents are calculated, if the assignment arrow was backwards, the numerical value will be negative.

Study Kirchoff's Laws of circuit analysis. KCL & KVL"

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Allen,

Positive and negative, and direction of the arrows representing currents in a circuit diagram are arbitrary; reverse is not. The current in the inductor does not reverse during the transition from charge to discharge of that inductor.

BTW, all of Ufo's diagrams support "non-reversing" inductor current.

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"Current is a signed (positive or negative) quantity reflecting direction towards or away from a node".
Yes, exactly.

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Applying this part of Kirchoff's law:

Current travels from the power source toward the inductor and is signed a positive value; Then when current is interrupted to the inductor, the magnetic field collapses and the current travels away from the inductor and is signed a negative value!
Wrong. The current in the inductor is in the same direction before and after the interruption of the source. This is shown clearly in all the graphs above.

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I'm done with Allen and apologize to Ufo for disrupting his thread.
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Hello to All,

Almost everyone here knows that whenever we pulse an INDUCTOR to then cut the power (Off Time)its Current Flow REVERSES its direction for the time off (actually this is the main principle of the DC-DC Switching Boosters and Buck Boosters based on inductors)...right?...right...


To be continued...

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[B]

Applying this part of Kirchoff's law:

Current travels from the power source toward the inductor and is signed positive quantity; Then when current is interrupted to the inductor, the magnetic field collapses and current travels away from the inductor and is signed negative quantity!


Wrong.
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Yes, exactly.



Wrong. The current in the inductor is in the same direction before and after the interruption of the source. This is shown clearly in all the graphs above.

bi

I'm done with Allen and apologize to Ufo for disrupting his thread.
Not so fast!

Negative current is positive current traveling backwards. Current travels into the inductor then it travels out of the inductor. First the inductor is the destination for the current traveling into it signed positive, then it's the source of the current traveling away from it signed negative. The accumulation of current has a positive value while the depletion of current a negative value. We can direct the current any way we want.

Like a balloon: When the balloon's inflating the pressure's positive, when the balloon's deflating the pressure's negative.
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Hi UFO,

There are 2 different types of voltage.

The first is voltage potential - that is the measurement you get at the terminals. I consider it a gas pressure reading of the polarized aether.

The second voltage is EMF or electromotive force, which flows from the positive terminal over the wire towards the negative terminal only when there is a path for it to travel to the lower potential. This flow is also considered the "Heaviside Flow".

The EMF potentializes the electrons in the copper conductor itself to start moving towards the positive terminal.

So the EMF is a very real flow and I see all the time in common electrical references that there is no distinction about what current is, which seems crazy.

Bearden's diagram here shows it perfectly:



When discussing "current", it should only apply to the electron flow from electrons in the conductor moving towards the positive terminal.

And EMF is not just voltage (pressure reading), but the actual flow of that organized source potential that potentializes the electrons.

You can see in the diagram that the Poynting Flow is only a small nearly insignificant amount of the Heaviside Flow that makes it into the conductor and attracts the electrons out of orbit so that they start jiggling down the wire in the opposite direction.

The Heaviside Flow is nearly at light speed being restricted by the drag of the Poynting component going into the conductor getting electrons to move. The electrons are moving a few inches power hour in the opposite direction.

If you can transmit that EMF across the conductor (wave guide) without instigating the flow of electrons, then it is transmitted extraluminally, or virtually instantaneously.
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Hello Bistander,

Well, then we both could just use the term "Electrical Flow" as a general concept...which according to Electricity, Voltage is not a displacement of Electrons or about any kind of flow at all, right?...but just the Differential between charged terminals correct?

I am pretty sure you are very familiar with the example I have cited before:

Inductors based switching power converters...remember that when the inductor is Off (collapsing field)...the electric flow passes the diode to the end of circuit cap?

While when it is On, Diode blocks flow to charge inductor.

Yes I know you would tell me voltage terminals reversed, reason why diode allowed flow...so, what is it that went through the diode to the converter output Capacitor then?...Voltage with no current?

At the end it is a simple concept...a "Current Ramp" Up and then down, due to the Voltage rise at the end output of the circuit when flow passes diode:




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Could we create separate thread for this topic which is very interesting one ?
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Could we create separate thread for this topic which is very interesting one ?

Hello Boguslaw,

Sorry, but this particular Topic is the ESSENCE about what develops further on here...

However, I have no objection if anyone would like to open a new thread about this "FLOW"...

Finally, MY MAIN CONCERN HERE RELATES to ESTABLISH A REFERENCE GUIDE between this "ELECTRIC FLOW" and the MAGNETIC FIELD POLARIZATION-ORIENTATION GENERATED, AS A RESULT FROM THIS FLOW DIRECTION.



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Hi UFO,

There are 2 different types of voltage.

The first is voltage potential - that is the measurement you get at the terminals. I consider it a gas pressure reading of the polarized aether.

The second voltage is EMF or electromotive force, which flows from the positive terminal over the wire towards the negative terminal only when there is a path for it to travel to the lower potential. This flow is also considered the "Heaviside Flow".

The EMF potentializes the electrons in the copper conductor itself to start moving towards the positive terminal.

So the EMF is a very real flow and I see all the time in common electrical references that there is no distinction about what current is, which seems crazy.

Bearden's diagram here shows it perfectly:



When discussing "current", it should only apply to the electron flow from electrons in the conductor moving towards the positive terminal.

And EMF is not just voltage (pressure reading), but the actual flow of that organized source potential that potentializes the electrons.

You can see in the diagram that the Poynting Flow is only a small nearly insignificant amount of the Heaviside Flow that makes it into the conductor and attracts the electrons out of orbit so that they start jiggling down the wire in the opposite direction.

The Heaviside Flow is nearly at light speed being restricted by the drag of the Poynting component going into the conductor getting electrons to move. The electrons are moving a few inches power hour in the opposite direction.

If you can transmit that EMF across the conductor (wave guide) without instigating the flow of electrons, then it is transmitted extraluminally, or virtually instantaneously.

Hello Aaron,


Thanks!, very enlightening post above!!


I agree 100% with this "EMF FLOW DIRECTION", and yes, it takes place exactly from Positive to Negative (+) >>> (-) terminals.


What I want to do following is to show, display a REAL relation between this FLOW and the Generation of a Magnetic Field Orientation (We could call it B Field Vector to simplify it)...as "Step 1"...


Thanks again for your post Aaron!


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Hello to All,

First, thanks for all your comments here...all of them very useful!!

And unfortunately I know many here does not agree with Field Spin (like Bistander and Citfta)...sorry but I do, and in order to prove that fact I need to back up my claims through a very simple and very useful tool...a cheap, old, small Black and White CRT TV, which I have set to only project a Flat, Horizontal ELECTRON BEAM SCANLINE...or also called "RASTERED LINE", this line would be considered the ZERO LINE, as this is the RESET LINE when there is no Magnetic Field PRESENCE...and for more info, please refer to my latest video related to CRT-Magnetic Fields :

And you can go directly to TIME= 17:35 (Link will take you directly to that Time...) to see only SCANLINE-FIELD INTERACTIONS



CRT REVEALING MAGNETIC FIELD VORTEXES

NOW BACK TO MAIN DISCUSSION...

Ok, I have put together a simple Graph-CAD, in order to UNIFY our Concepts...

[IMG][/IMG]

We have a "CLOCK" at the end of the Coil Iron Core to indicate "Clockwise Rotation Reference Point PLANE".

We have a "Right Hand Rule" painted as showing there are no conflicts with it either...Thumb points out the B FIELD DIRECTION, or also the NORTH POLE. As our fingers "wrapped" around coil indicate "CURRENT FLOW DIRECTION".

And finally, my CRT SCANLINE showing the NORTH SPIN DIRECTION, by a Positive Left Upper Quadrant Sine...plus a Right Lower Quadrant Negative Sine...very clearly INDICATING NORTH SPIN DIRECTION.

Completely Opposite Sine as that of a SOUTH POLE PROJECTION ON SAME CRT SCREEN VIEW WITH HORIZONTAL SCANLINE...(Please watch Video for details)

I believe this simple Image Unifies the whole Concept about this "ELECTRIC FLOW" from Positive to Negative Terminals of Coil, being CW, and ALSO, COINCIDING EXACTLY WITH NORTH POLE SPIN DIRECTION...

Note that, of course, the Coil Wire, winding direction, viewed from this angle...is also A CW WINDING DIRECTION considering we have STARTED TO WIND FROM THE POSITIVE TERMINAL.

This will get more complicated further on... since we will have in real life several layers of winding on that same coil...Above Image is just one layer for sake of simplicity and clear understanding of the whole deal.

Hope we All reach an agreement here...


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A General Rule I would like to keep here...

Welcome to All ...and:

A General Rule I would like to keep here...

I would like to keep here a HAPPY ENVIRONMENT, so, please, no need to end our discussions in Insults or any disrespectful, nor minimizing the other capabilities or expertise related comments about absolutely ANYONE participating on this Thread.

So, please...Let's get together as ONE TEAM, helping each others out...since absolutely NO ONE have the final truth about all this LIFE TIME confusing concepts...that have not lead Us so far to finding the REAL WAYS TO OBTAIN ENERGY based on SIMPLE METHODS...which would not require Complex and Powerful Mechanical Movements to get what we are all searching for in so many years...and so many Generations that have died without seen this magnificent developments.


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Hello,

RE, a few posts ago, -//?..

am i too understand that you have found an answer too the under unity problem from the concept of recycling backemf ?, ,- if no- which is what i suspect, where have you found your answer too this problem ?, ?

and AARon, well put, and i love your sister,
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RE, a few posts ago, -//?..

am i too understand that you have found an answer too the under unity problem from the concept of recycling backemf ?, ,- if no- which is what i suspect, where have you found your answer too this problem ?, ?

and AARon, well put, and i love your sister,


Hello Wheatbelt,

Just follow this Thread and it will gradually evolve...eventually to answer your questions...in time.

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Well, then we both could just use the term "Electrical Flow" as a general concept...which according to Electricity, Voltage is not a displacement of Electrons or about any kind of flow at all, right?...but just the Differential between charged terminals correct?
Hi Ufo,

I don't understand "Electrical Flow". So I don't use the term. I use current which is the flow of electric charge usually, but not necessarily, through a conductor. And voltage which is the difference in EMF between two points in space, usually between two nodes on a circuit.

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I am pretty sure you are very familiar with the example I have cited before:

Inductors based switching power converters...remember that when the inductor is Off (collapsing field)...the electric flow passes the diode to the end of circuit cap?

While when it is On, Diode blocks flow to charge inductor.

Yes I know you would tell me voltage terminals reversed, reason why diode allowed flow...so, what is it that went through the diode to the converter output Capacitor then?...Voltage with no current?

At the end it is a simple concept...a "Current Ramp" Up and then down, due to the Voltage rise at the end output of the circuit when flow passes diode:




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You refer to the inductor being "off". That terminology may be misleading because the inductor is always conducting current as long as there is a load on the converter. The inductor charges when the switch is closed and discharges when the switch is opened.

The diode is forward biased (conducts) when the switch is open so has inductor current thru it and the forward junction drop across it (~0.7V). When the switch is closed it pulls the node between the inductor and diode to ground (0V) thereby reverse biasing the diode causing diode current = 0A and voltage across the diode = the capacitor voltage (which is the load voltage (Vout)).

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What's that you're saying Ufo?

I can't hear you, there are too many people yakking on this party line.

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What's that you're saying Ufo?

I can't hear you, there are too many people yakking on this party line.

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Hey Cadman...

What did you say??!!

Can't hear you either...

Regards friend, & glad 2 C U around here again!!


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Hello Bistander,

Well, then we both could just use the term "Electrical Flow" as a general concept...which according to Electricity, Voltage is not a displacement of Electrons or about any kind of flow at all, right?...but just the Differential between charged terminals correct?

I am pretty sure you are very familiar with the example I have cited before:

Inductors based switching power converters...remember that when the inductor is Off (collapsing field)...the electric flow passes the diode to the end of circuit cap?

While when it is On, Diode blocks flow to charge inductor.

Yes I know you would tell me voltage terminals reversed, reason why diode allowed flow...so, what is it that went through the diode to the converter output Capacitor then?...Voltage with no current?

At the end it is a simple concept...a "Current Ramp" Up and then down, due to the Voltage rise at the end output of the circuit when flow passes diode:




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Hi Ufo,

I don't understand "Electrical Flow". So I don't use the term. I use current which is the flow of electric charge usually, but not necessarily, through a conductor. And voltage which is the difference in EMF between two points in space, usually between two nodes on a circuit.



You refer to the inductor being "off". That terminology may be misleading because the inductor is always conducting current as long as there is a load on the converter. The inductor charges when the switch is closed and discharges when the switch is opened.

The diode is forward biased (conducts) when the switch is open so has inductor current thru it and the forward junction drop across it (~0.7V). When the switch is closed it pulls the node between the inductor and diode to ground (0V) thereby reverse biasing the diode causing diode current = 0A and voltage across the diode = the capacitor voltage (which is the load voltage (Vout)).

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That's why I created another thread ,because this CAN be solved with experiment, though I don't know when I could be able to perform such one.
Move the discussion about boost converter there.
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Hello to All,

First, thanks for all your comments here...all of them very useful!!

And unfortunately I know many here does not agree with Field Spin (like Bistander and Citfta)...sorry but I do, and in order to prove that fact I need to back up my claims through a very simple and very useful tool...a cheap, old, small Black and White CRT TV, which I have set to only project a Flat, Horizontal ELECTRON BEAM SCANLINE...or also called "RASTERED LINE", this line would be considered the ZERO LINE, as this is the RESET LINE when there is no Magnetic Field PRESENCE...and for more info, please refer to my latest video related to CRT-Magnetic Fields :

And you can go directly to TIME= 17:35 (Link will take you directly to that Time...) to see only SCANLINE-FIELD INTERACTIONS



CRT REVEALING MAGNETIC FIELD VORTEXES

NOW BACK TO MAIN DISCUSSION...

Ok, I have put together a simple Graph-CAD, in order to UNIFY our Concepts...

[IMG][/IMG]

We have a "CLOCK" at the end of the Coil Iron Core to indicate "Clockwise Rotation Reference Point PLANE".

We have a "Right Hand Rule" painted as showing there are no conflicts with it either...Thumb points out the B FIELD DIRECTION, or also the NORTH POLE. As our fingers "wrapped" around coil indicate "CURRENT FLOW DIRECTION".

And finally, my CRT SCANLINE showing the NORTH SPIN DIRECTION, by a Positive Left Upper Quadrant Sine...plus a Right Lower Quadrant Negative Sine...very clearly INDICATING NORTH SPIN DIRECTION.

Completely Opposite Sine as that of a SOUTH POLE PROJECTION ON SAME CRT SCREEN VIEW WITH HORIZONTAL SCANLINE...(Please watch Video for details)

I believe this simple Image Unifies the whole Concept about this "ELECTRIC FLOW" from Positive to Negative Terminals of Coil, being CW, and ALSO, COINCIDING EXACTLY WITH NORTH POLE SPIN DIRECTION...

Note that, of course, the Coil Wire, winding direction, viewed from this angle...is also A CW WINDING DIRECTION considering we have STARTED TO WIND FROM THE POSITIVE TERMINAL.



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Hi Ufopolitics, I mainly want to say to you how useful the video was. I also have some other thoughts and if you know or feel otherwise I'd like to be corrected.

As your work now demonstartes, the magnetic field flows in one direction only. It must therefore follow that any particles which are attracted towards this energy are required to follow the movement of the magnetic flow. This being naturally a matter of magnetic field strength in free space.

Particle physics demonstrates that it is the magnetic field which controls the direction of charged and or magnetic particles: A particle is not required to have an electrical charge to follow a magnetic field, but it is the magnetic field which controls the flow of particles regardless of their respective field charges, or whether or not they are even carrying a charge at all.

How a particle reacts to the magnetic field is related to the charge and it's relative attraction towards a magnetic field even if it has no charge at all. There is a relationship between the strength of magnetic field which is the charge carrier and the relative charge of a particle as well as to the matter of the particle itself. A particle may follow a magnetic pathway more easily because it is naturally attracted to the field even though it's charge may be less than that of another particle. This is not a simple matter of respective charges in particles. The particle itself is at least as important as the charge itself.

Charged particles moving in free space create their own magnetic fields, or rings through which they are propelled. Your own work validates this understanding and shows that electrical energies and magnetically attracted particles must follow a singular pathway forwards. They cannot reverse course back through the magnetic field which is projecting forwards other particles merely because those at the front are now depleted of a respective charge: they can only reverse course by once more self creating another electromagnetic field of likewise designed rings and through which they must flow in order to retrace a path back to a source. One could see this activity then as electro-magnetic tunneling of sorts since the action is to create another magnetic tube, constructed out of self creating rings once more, and through which these particles then flow.

There is not a reversal backwards. It's more like water coming out of the end of a hose and then coming back along the outside of the hose while making itself another tube to flow through. That's the way nature moves particles in free space when it is in a circuit.

In theory, as I understand it, in free space the flow of electromagnetic energy particles are accomplished by self organizing electromagnetic rings around the flowing energy field. These magnetic rings are responsible for the projection forwards and outwards in to freespace where this self creation process is repeated over and over.

Your work shows that this is the true nature of the magnetic field: That it is a spiraling flow which carries itself, and anything which is inside it, forwards in a singular spiraling direction. I feel your work is conclusive on these points and can now be applied usefully elsewhere.
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Hi Ufopolitics, I mainly want to say to you how useful the video was.
Hello Gambeir,

I am glad my video was helpful in order to acquire more knowledge about the "Enigmatic Magnetic Fields"...

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I also have some other thoughts and if you know or feel otherwise I'd like to be corrected.
Absolutely, no problem at all...

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As your work now demonstrates, the magnetic field flows in one direction only. It must therefore follow that any particles which are attracted towards this energy are required to follow the movement of the magnetic flow. This being naturally a matter of magnetic field strength in free space.
Correct, except there is a particular property of Magnetic Fields which must be taken in consideration before concluding about its directional (one way) flow...

And that Intrinsic Property that applies generally to ALL Magnetic Fields, no matter if coming out from a permanent magnet or a Coil, and no matter if air coil core or ferromagnetic core coil...

No matter what, we are referring strictly to Magnetic Fields here, and that Property is the FACT that:

THIS MAGNETISM DYNAMIC FLOW EMANATES EXACTLY FROM THE VERY CENTER OF THE GENERATING EMBODIMENT CAUSING IT TO PROPAGATE IN SPACE, FROM THE VERY "MASS GRAVITATIONAL" CENTER OUTWARDS.

And so, no matter what the Geometry Volume would be creating the Field, it have a "built in mechanism" that "iso facto" reacts in this manner in the form of "Self Gravitational Center-Outwards Spatial Alignment"

Then we step into the Spatial Vortex of a Spiral Shape from Center Outwards. And this would be the CENTRIFUGAL FORCES ONLY, which configure this Primary Flow.

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Particle physics demonstrates that it is the magnetic field which controls the direction of charged and or magnetic particles: A particle is not required to have an electrical charge to follow a magnetic field, but it is the magnetic field which controls the flow of particles regardless of their respective field charges, or whether or not they are even carrying a charge at all.

How a particle reacts to the magnetic field is related to the charge and it's relative attraction towards a magnetic field even if it has no charge at all. There is a relationship between the strength of magnetic field which is the charge carrier and the relative charge of a particle as well as to the matter of the particle itself. A particle may follow a magnetic pathway more easily because it is naturally attracted to the field even though it's charge may be less than that of another particle. This is not a simple matter of respective charges in particles. The particle itself is at least as important as the charge itself.

Charged particles moving in free space create their own magnetic fields, or rings through which they are propelled. Your own work validates this understanding and shows that electrical energies and magnetically attracted particles must follow a singular pathway forwards. They cannot reverse course back through the magnetic field which is projecting forwards other particles merely because those at the front are now depleted of a respective charge: they can only reverse course by once more self creating another electromagnetic field of likewise designed rings and through which they must flow in order to retrace a path back to a source. One could see this activity then as electro-magnetic tunneling of sorts since the action is to create another magnetic tube, constructed out of self creating rings once more, and through which these particles then flow.
Exactly, and here the governing law is based on Hierarchy based on Field strength and Volume to dictate the Overriding Flow to External or Internal (inside the core) Particles.

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There is not a reversal backwards. It's more like water coming out of the end of a hose and then coming back along the outside of the hose while making itself another tube to flow through. That's the way nature moves particles in free space when it is in a circuit.

In theory, as I understand it, in free space the flow of electromagnetic energy particles are accomplished by self organizing electromagnetic rings around the flowing energy field. These magnetic rings are responsible for the projection forwards and outwards in to freespace where this self creation process is repeated over and over.
Well here you are right about the formation of "RINGS" which could be seen clearly by the use of FERROCELL LENS exposing the whole Field which consist of several perfectly aligned and spaced evenly...like a Sunflower is created by Nature, and so many other Natural forms of the Creation.

However, there is a "Discharge Flow" in every Magnetic Field, as a Secondary Stage, and it is reverse from Primary Stage...and, of course, if Field is Isolated (not under the Influence of any other Field or attraction to any Ferromagnetic Material which could "Distort" its shape considerably) the Magnetic Field would have exactly Two Stages at each of their Two Polarizations which come from the Center of the "Physical" Embodiment generating it...The First Stage we already went through...the CENTRIFUGAL FLOW...and so, like the saying "All that goes around comes around"...this Flow RETURNS EXACTLY TO THE CENTER as well, VIA THEIR CENTRIPETAL FORCES.

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Your work shows that this is the true nature of the magnetic field: That it is a spiraling flow which carries itself, and anything which is inside it, forwards in a singular spiraling direction. I feel your work is conclusive on these points and can now be applied usefully elsewhere.
Thanks very much, and it was my complete pleasure that it has conveyed the "Message Within"...

I am still working on the second part to the CRT Video...where I would be using exactly FOUR ELECTRON BEAM, HORIZONTAL SCAN LINES, set at every 90 In 3D...Imaging the whole Magnetic Field in one shot at the Center of the "Stage"...which comprehends Front-Rear and both Right and Left Sides Views Simultaneously...This way we would have a full view of all Faces of the Spatial Volume swept by the High Frequency CRT Rastering Lines.


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A Basic, Preliminary Video Test about Moving the Virtual Magnetic Fields...

Hello to All,

For those interested, find below and please, take a few minutes off your time...and watch the video:



It is a Preliminary and very BASIC TEST plus Explanation about what this Thread is all about:

Moving Plus Increasing the "Change of Rate" (as recited from Faraday Laws of Induction) but ONLY off the...:

VIRTUAL, MASSLESS, WEIGHTLESS AND INVISIBLE MAGNETIC FIELDS

The Results at the end of Video, I believe are so very obvious to even those not too skilled in the Arts...


Enjoy


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This is a post from the Resonating Coils Thread from Aether Scientist, addressed to Mikrovolt in order to keep discussion here:

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There is concern about a free energy device being disruptive
because the losers would want Utopian life for only a few.

If everyone could live in a middle class house in the suburbs
then solar panels would be enough however it appears
that conservation and alternatives and central power is here to stay.

Having a small device power your home such as Henry Moray, Steven Mark, Kapanadze was never demonstrated or replicated in enough hands to be a public proto-type.

I believe that tapping an unknown source would be a progressive discovery from a barely working design with advancement along the way.
The inventor would likely have a story about how it came about.

Let's say you tried to replicate a Steven Mark TPU, the device takes time to get up to speed, the device shakes when moved ect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHswoNpc0Tk

So how would those working principals be examined if someone actually got something to work even partially ? Not looking at a wall wart.
That is why I suggest using synchronous up regulator with those sense features if and when over unity does happen you will
more likely spot it quickly because the load will decrease and the controller error amplifier will adjust but also waveforms may change slightly
I found a cheap ebay regulator LTC 8730 but the inductor should be placed away from the transistors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0KHPxlFz6I

In physics the term resonance can be the synchronous vibration of a neighboring object.
Great post above Microvolt!!

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Let's say you tried to replicate a Steven Mark TPU, the device takes time to get up to speed, the device shakes when moved etc.
That is exactly a "property" that most of these devices have...Humming, or a vibration feeling, like Jack Durban (Steve Marks Asst) mentioned..."it feels like the stators of a running motor"...There is a simple explanation for that, High Energy Currents Flow, back and forth (for example, As Figuera Concept, but it could also be a spin feel) which develops the fast moving virtual magnetic fields within device through the coils-cores config.

The Device I am perfecting at this time, does exactly the same effect.

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if and when over unity does happen you will more likely spot it quickly because the load will decrease and the controller error amplifier will adjust but also waveforms may change slightly.
The load will decrease the output, of course...but there will always be a Remanent power left over, even if I short-out output terminals to read full output-amperage, there will still be some millivolts voltage remaining at output (never drops to Zero!!)...and more amazingly...output coils will not even rise one degree of temp when shorted or whenever disbursing Higher Load power.

But it is a great idea to use a regulator to do this compensation electronically, as per "load request" disbursement of output power...thanks!!

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In physics the term resonance can be the synchronous vibration of a neighboring object.

Yes!!...Thanks for that as well!!...very different than Electric Resonance...in Physics, the resonance applies better to an Electro-Magnetic device, which ends up in a Magnetic Field...so, the more I increase that "neighboring vibration", the higher it would be reflected on the "receiver neighbor" end, and NOT too much because it will brake the glass...

In Electrical Resonance, there is a limitation point which becomes static and is NOT Progressive (Dynamic Range) like in Physics takes place (E.g: Electromagnets)!!

I will set an example here: Say I have an Exciter Coil of 20 awg, and according to config (AT, Dia, Core size,etc) it consumes around 30W...but this exciter is "neighboring" (or we could say "Interlaced" or Cross-winded) a closed looped LC Tank Circuit Coil...which have coarser gauge...and more turns (AT)[it will work perfectly well with same exact AT's, as same wire gauge]...so, the operating wattage transferred by "physical resonance Induction" from primary exciter to that secondary exciter is Higher than Input operating wattage DEPENDING UPON the FREQUENCY of this "Vibrations"...And Signals on Scope show clearly this fact...(here takes place an INVERSE Network Comm between Primary-secondary, meaning, the higher the frequency, the higher the wattage of sec exciter, while the decrease of Input Power to primary exciter takes place-here a regulator will work as well-)...but, the point here is that the secondary exciter...would be the one diminishing its power when load is present at output coils, and NOT the Primary Input Exciter...comprende?

Resuming above, the LC Circuit (secondary exciter) will form a "Mirror Field Vibration-Movement" which in turn assists Primary Exciter Field SO, TWO Exciting Fields WILL Induce Main Output Coils...but the Mirror Field (LC Tank) becomes HIGHER AT HIGHER FREQUENCIES...and SO, it will be the one serving as LOAD DISBURSEMENT...and NOT from the Primary Field Exciter.


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asynchronous wound armatures, a different animal yes you are right good job.
Exactly, good example about that "vibrating feeling"

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Find the 8730 try Searching " LTC3780 High Efficiency, Synchronous Buck Boost "

or " ebay LTC3780 12 DC to DC, lifting Synchronous Buck Boost "

board topology the inductor should be moved away from the 4 transistors.
I will get it, yeah, moving away toroidal inductor will prevent from magnetic interference in board...plus even adding some heat sink to FET's...

I am also building a simple 12V PWM, 555 Timer Astable Pos. of just ONE Single Square Wave (do not need two inverse anymore), where I could regulate the duty cycle(ON Time/OFF Time length) PLUS the Frequency Speed, in order to replace the Motor-Comm Rotary Switch by that simple pulse device...Motor Assy is too expensive, as far as Watts...BUT, ONLY after am done with Primary-Secondary design Topology in one module, where I will get most out of it.

Right now, I am doing OU, but only if we calculate Input-Output between Exciter(s) and Output Main Coils, leaving motor watts out. So, the OU is like a 21 W Out versus like 12 In...but am only working -as of now- on low voltage (12V) and just about one amp Input. However, the System is designed to INCREASE this OU relation percentage as I increase Input Wattage.

But then again, results above are based on a single Module, which is Two Exciters and just one Output Coil...where I could add Three more coils for output at different spatial geometrical positioning.


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I am writing this with references in order to be more clear.
There are simulation tools available.
https://youtu.be/G6B-d8Wi0oI?t=239

Concider the term Energy Flux and the faster transient curves and timing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_current

Simulation subsets can be modeled that will speed future developments.

The long hand efficiency calculations will no doubt be scrutinized.
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