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Old 05-12-2017, 09:32 PM
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First there was the meme that the earth was flat, and now there's a meme that the earth isn't moving huh? Now in no way is the intended to be an effrontery to OP. It isn't, it's my conclusion on this topic. Think what you will.

This topic has been examined elsewhere in the wild wilderness that is the web. Trusted sources have suggested that these meme's are part of a designed campaign to distract, and to then lead off to dead zones, and by feeding thoughtful inquisitive minds a plotted path to waste their mental capacity on things which the designers of these ideas well know are not true.

One of the primary problems with this idea is that it conflicts with the Electric Universe and the subsequent plasma cosmology that forms the basis of matter creation out of energy.

In such a system, and to which there is no other logical or otherwise rational explanation, the creation of celestial bodies come out of a process of fusion. That process does not naturally create matter in any other form than a spherical shape since the creation process is expelled from a core outwards in all directions. A vast over simplification I'm sure, but that's the gist of it and which does not include all the corollary physics involved in the complexity of spins induced by the electromagnetic fields that are in flux.

What one must conclude is that these meme's, which we are being bombarded with, are not arriving accidentally. That is to say, there is an intent behind them. That intent cannot be a good intent because the objective is clearly to make those whom adopt these ideas to fall victim to one of two clear intentions: Either the creative and thoughtful mind which is naturally attracted to these curiosities are wasted, or then later or in the present, they will appear as fools to those others that didn't find the material convincing enough to waste time on.

There are many very intelligent, creative, thoughtful, experimental, and resourceful people on this forum. Pay attention, you are all threats and you need to understand that. That's why these things appear out of thin air. They don't appear for no reason. As an investigator what would one think if odd clues just happened to be constantly appearing? Like that's normal huh? Ah, hell no....someone is feeding you doggy droppings...that's what I'd be concluding.

Don't waste time with this. This topic is basically a kind of mind trap. Learn to recognize them.
I too found this all very interesting when I first encountered it. Many like minded people have.
It's a dead end time waster, and again it's a kind phishing scam, the kind of thing one might
expect to come from the people whom don't want you to succeed, and whom are likely the same
ones to invent phishing in the first place.

Mind trap and one of the largest co-intel pro/psy-op/new age jokes plopped on the masses thus far.

I am open to all possibilities, but this has reeked of disinfo from the beginning
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Thank you, I'm glad you brought this forward in such a visual way, and here's why: Who's wearing the cuffs, me or you?

The problem with this stuff: It doesn't meet the criteria to be used in a court room for either a defense or for a prosecution case.

There is a scientific process applied to investigations that is used to find and discover the truth and through that process we the people determine where truth lies. Science is only one part of truth finding. Refuting science and allegations of science is also another aspect to truth finding. Not all science is actually science, some of it is criminally inspired corrupted science. Kind of like Global Warming is a corrupted criminally inspired plot using corrupted manipulated data. Science isn't to be blindly trusted and there actually exists a scientific methodology of investigation to determine truth from fictions.

Global warming is complete codswallop BS intended to justify more taxes and further emport satanic elitists like Al Gore who carries a brief case of blood around with him.... hmmmmm????
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Gambeir, you are correct about the distractions on this forum, and free energy in general has the same issues, someone does not want us to figure it out.
no idea if the people that distract are just excited about every new thing, or if they are getting payed to distract us.
people on this forum have already figured out a free energy device, and others say they have verified it,
Steele Braden Generator
so where did the interest go in that project ?
people ended up talking about other things and getting lost in ideas like flat earth... (if you have free energy, why would you care or even think about what shape the earth is ?)
I have almost entirely given up on this forum at this point, but still read it to make sure I don't miss things.
and I do lots of ignoring of the people that distract, only replied to this thread because I thought it was so amusing
I don't think the distraction issue will go away anytime soon even if it is pointed out.
there is a large document out there (can go find a link and what it is called if someone wants) that has details of almost every free energy device out there, and the few that actually work either have to much missing info as to how they work, or are listed under "doubtful devices"
even if someone starts mass producing and selling a working device, I would doubt the pointless distractions would end anytime soon.
TOTALLY AGREED on all points

PsyOps are always at play and some of them are paid agents... who are actually traitors to the Constitution Republic of the United States of America.

God Bless This GREAT NATION for what principles it has been founded upon.
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Am I misreading what you've intended ...
Sorry, I seldom comment for the obvious reasons.

Here is more on the subject of "psychopaths’ civilization":

Moreover, they have a unique biology:
ranging from increased corpus callosums - which orchestrates complex interactions between the attention, arousal and emotion (Raine, et al. 2003),
smaller amygdalas - long recognized as a key component in emotional processing, moral reasoning, and social interaction (Yang, et al, 2009), and
fMRI scans which show a distinct failure of normal brain activation when psychopaths are charged with an emotive task (Kiehl, et al, 2006).
These few examples are but the tip of the iceberg when it comes to their biological differences from normal humans.

As such, the problem is quite evolutionary;
without an understanding of this new subspecies,
their capabilities, and
how they differ from us we
will be 'as sheep amongst the wolves',
ripe for the picking.

Given the political and economic scandals of the last ten years, it's amazing that this topic has not received further attention.
It also explains how large banking conglomerates, corporations and intelligence agencies can function without
a moral compass, sacrificing the lives of countless innocent people and justifying their actions with an appropriate ideological mask.
The phenomenon of psychopathy affects the lives of everyone on the planet, and we as a society require a comprehensive understanding
if we are to navigate the difficult waters of the new millennium.

https://www.sott.net/article/208242-...f-Homo-Sapiens


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Sorry, I seldom comment for the obvious reasons.

Here is more on the subject of "psychopaths’ civilization":

Moreover, they have a unique biology:
ranging from increased corpus callosums - which orchestrates complex interactions between the attention, arousal and emotion (Raine, et al. 2003),
smaller amygdalas - long recognized as a key component in emotional processing, moral reasoning, and social interaction (Yang, et al, 2009), and
fMRI scans which show a distinct failure of normal brain activation when psychopaths are charged with an emotive task (Kiehl, et al, 2006).
These few examples are but the tip of the iceberg when it comes to their biological differences from normal humans.

As such, the problem is quite evolutionary;
without an understanding of this new subspecies,
their capabilities, and
how they differ from us we
will be 'as sheep amongst the wolves',
ripe for the picking.

Given the political and economic scandals of the last ten years, it's amazing that this topic has not received further attention.
It also explains how large banking conglomerates, corporations and intelligence agencies can function without
a moral compass, sacrificing the lives of countless innocent people and justifying their actions with an appropriate ideological mask.
The phenomenon of psychopathy affects the lives of everyone on the planet, and we as a society require a comprehensive understanding
if we are to navigate the difficult waters of the new millennium.

https://www.sott.net/article/208242-...f-Homo-Sapiens


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Thanks for the clarification and response. So I've misread what your intent evidently. I'm sorry about that. It was my belief that after my long windbag explanation on methodology that you were making an insinuation about my character and therefore a personal attack. Now then, I have studied the field of psychopathology. I read Sott.net nearly every day myself, I do find that the article misses the mark.

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Given the political and economic scandals of the last ten years, it's amazing that this topic has not received further attention.
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https://www.sott.net/article/208242-The-Psychopath-A-New-Subspecies-of-Homo-Sapiens[/url]
Actually this isn't exactly accurate: One could cite Hannah Arendt and "The Origins of Totalitarianism" as an exemplary text on the topic. What History Teaches; is that bureaucracy and laws are the tools of evil. Bureaucracies create laws to serve themselves and to serve those who profit by their expansion and existence. Bureaucratic "law making" enabled mass murder under the Communists, under the Nazi's, and now under Corporations and Banks; and as always it's about the money and so behind mass murder is another layer of evil.

I actually see focusing on the failures of individuals as psychopaths as a form of obfuscation and by this same form of totalitarianism now disguised as Corporations and Banks. Criminality is an expertise for the Police, whom are adept in this field, and it is more important for us, we the people, to understand how an individual or corporate collection of criminals sieze power and then use the understanding I put forward here for their own ends: Hitler understood this, Mao understood this, Stalin understood this, and now we have a highly organized collection of billionaries whom also understand it.

The first rule in the book for all totalitarian systems is to blame the people and then the individual. This same trick is clearly visible in the blame being placed upon the people of the planet for global warming. Bureaucratic criminals, ruled over by political stooges and their appointed minions, have already judged you and I as being responsible for global warming, and just as in the other cases, these political stooges and their servants are dependent upon the financial support of their owners, and more importantly, upon the owners ownership over the minds of the masses through the control and ownership of the propaganda systems, otherwise called the mass media.

Mass murder by cultures, by civilizations, are the product of impersonal and inhuman bureaucratic institutions which follow orders.
{"The more laws, the less justice"} Marcus Tullius Cicero

Congress is passing over 117 new laws in 2016, and in each one are tens of hundreds of new laws, rules, and regulations. This is the greatest threat to your life today.
https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2016/03/ho...sed-last-year/

*Note: I underlined and put in quotes "law making" since the minions on your news stations insist on repeating over and over that we now have "law makers" , instead of elected representative, their lawful title BTW. These servants are programmers: Repeat the lie often enough and it will become the truth. In a real democracy, we the people are the law makers, and they are our choices for ensuring our laws are upheld.

The second greatest threat to our lives are the liars on the television, in the news papers, an on the radio stations: History again teaches us this truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Himmler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/18/...-case-for-war/
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Gambeir, you are correct about the distractions on this forum, and free energy in general has the same issues, someone does not want us to figure it out.
no idea if the people that distract are just excited about every new thing, or if they are getting payed to distract us.
people on this forum have already figured out a free energy device, and others say they have verified it,
Steele Braden Generator
so where did the interest go in that project ?
people ended up talking about other things and getting lost in ideas like flat earth... (if you have free energy, why would you care or even think about what shape the earth is ?)
I have almost entirely given up on this forum at this point, but still read it to make sure I don't miss things.
and I do lots of ignoring of the people that distract, only replied to this thread because I thought it was so amusing
I don't think the distraction issue will go away anytime soon even if it is pointed out.
there is a large document out there (can go find a link and what it is called if someone wants) that has details of almost every free energy device out there, and the few that actually work either have to much missing info as to how they work, or are listed under "doubtful devices"
even if someone starts mass producing and selling a working device, I would doubt the pointless distractions would end anytime soon.

Let us now put this thread in the proper light!

Spacecase0, deserves all credit for seeing this truth.

"We are not the center of the Universe"

L00K {Blink...Blink} Center of Self = Ego

Let us now turn back the clock to the dark ages and all ask ourselves what people once thought. Oh, would it be that we are the center of the Universe? That the Sun went round the Earth?

I said that they would later make those whom fell for this appear as fools.
Now what do you think?

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I have read with interest this thread.

I come from the point of view that, what was once held to be self evident has been held to be wrong. So do I hold a strong view that the earth is flat or round ? Or do I have a strong opinion that the earth is the centre of the universe ? No. for the single reason I can not prove it either way.

But what fascinates me about the topic of an earth that does not rotate, I add this. I have pondered on the complexity of lunar ranging for a few years now. I can not make the math work.

Factor in the spinning earth, speed of light, rotating and orbiting moon, the size of the reflectors, 2.5 second return time and I can not figure out how with the best equipment in the world, we can claim the laser light returns to the base receiver and thereby calculate the distance to the moon.

Take out a spinning earth and it might just about work.
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I can not figure out how with the best equipment in the world, we can claim the laser light returns to the base receiver and thereby calculate the distance to the moon.

High-Precision Measurement of the Earth-Moon Distance

M. Schneider, J. Müller, U. Schreiber, D. Egger
(german version translated and shortened by D.Egger)

Concluding Remarks
The determination of the exact distance Earth-Moon is a complex undertaking.
Measuring as well as analyzing skills are highly demanded.
But it's worth the effort: You may check a lot of parameters describing the model of the Earth-Moon system
including the underlying theoretical approaches. Besides the high accuracy of the measurements
another advantage is the long period of observations covering 27 years.

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I have read with interest this thread.

I come from the point of view that, what was once held to be self evident has been held to be wrong. So do I hold a strong view that the earth is flat or round ? Or do I have a strong opinion that the earth is the centre of the universe ? No. for the single reason I can not prove it either way.

But what fascinates me about the topic of an earth that does not rotate, I add this. I have pondered on the complexity of lunar ranging for a few years now. I can not make the math work.

Factor in the spinning earth, speed of light, rotating and orbiting moon, the size of the reflectors, 2.5 second return time and I can not figure out how with the best equipment in the world, we can claim the laser light returns to the base receiver and thereby calculate the distance to the moon.

Take out a spinning earth and it might just about work.
The hallmark of psychopathology is a fascination with the self; it is the self absorbed self. For clarification then, as it seems I'm not getting through, is that the presented flat earth not spinning, not moving hypothesis, is a clever construct by intelligences which seek to use the nature of all human beings to become preoccupied with their own navel. We should see this as a dangerous threat to the enlightenment and age of reason, and not as anything other than that and for the previously enumerated reasons:

Again, whether or not there is validity to the notions presented is a matter of meeting a methodological form of inquiry; one which is a scientific methodology, established in law and the basis for trial by jury. It is not a haphazard affair, rather it is one refined through the twisted tale of human history with all it's deceits.

You must be able to meet and defeat, or at very least, be equal in all ways, and to all challenges; not simply pick and choose those you like or offer arm chair constructs as alternatives with vague statements citing supposed mathematical flaws. Failure to recognize this is what defines a crackpot science from a serious challenge to the existing paradigm.

Bear in mind that while one should always be open to new ideas, to question the official version of reality, for that is what I encourage others to do 99% of the time, but it behoves us all to realize that evil seeks to control. Control is really what evil is above all else. The ruling elites have maintained control over reality by control over the minds of people.

This is a construct, it is a construct which seeks to muddy the waters, to get the inquisitive and thoughtful enlisted in to a scheme, a criminally designed one, and which seeks to overthrow history and the sacrifices which others made. Think carefully upon that for none living here in our epoch has any idea what that really means, we can't even imagine what someone from history like Galileo faced and lived with, but if we are not careful there are those whom would ever so much love to have us all returned to that period of time, and this is what you are dealing with: Evil incarnate.
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Hi all, Hi gambeir, in a nutshell, what you are speaking of, it is the soulless ones.
These ones are the psychopaths you and aljhoa are speaking about.
They are much like programmed robots and have no link to the creator source.
This is why they have no moral compass, they are but droids and can be programmed to be helpful to life or harmful.
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First there was the meme that the earth was flat, and now there's a meme that the earth isn't moving huh? Now in no way is the intended to be an effrontery to OP. It isn't, it's my conclusion on this topic. Think what you will.

This topic has been examined elsewhere in the wild wilderness that is the web. Trusted sources have suggested that these meme's are part of a designed campaign to distract, and to then lead off to dead zones, and by feeding thoughtful inquisitive minds a plotted path to waste their mental capacity on things which the designers of these ideas well know are not true.

One of the primary problems with this idea is that it conflicts with the Electric Universe and the subsequent plasma cosmology that forms the basis of matter creation out of energy.

In such a system, and to which there is no other logical or otherwise rational explanation, the creation of celestial bodies come out of a process of fusion. That process does not naturally create matter in any other form than a spherical shape since the creation process is expelled from a core outwards in all directions. A vast over simplification I'm sure, but that's the gist of it and which does not include all the corollary physics involved in the complexity of spins induced by the electromagnetic fields that are in flux.

What one must conclude is that these meme's, which we are being bombarded with, are not arriving accidentally. That is to say, there is an intent behind them. That intent cannot be a good intent because the objective is clearly to make those whom adopt these ideas to fall victim to one of two clear intentions: Either the creative and thoughtful mind which is naturally attracted to these curiosities are wasted, or then later or in the present, they will appear as fools to those others that didn't find the material convincing enough to waste time on.

There are many very intelligent, creative, thoughtful, experimental, and resourceful people on this forum. Pay attention, you are all threats and you need to understand that. That's why these things appear out of thin air. They don't appear for no reason. As an investigator what would one think if odd clues just happened to be constantly appearing? Like that's normal huh? Ah, hell no....someone is feeding you doggy droppings...that's what I'd be concluding.

Don't waste time with this. This topic is basically a kind of mind trap. Learn to recognize them.
I too found this all very interesting when I first encountered it. Many like minded people have.
It's a dead end time waster, and again it's a kind phishing scam, the kind of thing one might
expect to come from the people whom don't want you to succeed, and whom are likely the same
ones to invent phishing in the first place.
Very intelligent and valid points in that post indeed! - I agree 100%

As a supporter of the E.U. too (I know Wal), when matter born in the universe, it takes the form of a sphere…

Yes, I too I believe that certain meme’s or phishing mind traps as you put it are put out to distract, mislead and waste time. BUT the primary purpose though is to cast ALL conspiracy theories into the same basket(s) as the phishing scams to do further harm, ridicule or discredit the legitimate conspiracy theories or hidden knowledge.
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The Electric Universe Theory

From the smallest particle to the largest galactic formation, a web of electrical circuitry connects and unifies all of nature, organizing galaxies, energizing stars, giving birth to planets and, on our own world, controlling weather and animating biological organisms. There are no isolated islands in an electric universe. —David Talbott and Wal Thornhill, 
Thunderbolts of the Gods

https://snooze2awaken.wordpress.com/...te-to-healing/

Conclusion
The plasma universe is currently enjoying success as a "Big-Bang basher." In due course, its own weaknesses will begin receiving more attention. The lesson is clear: Creationists should be especially cautious about accommodating new science ideas, even if they oppose evolutionary models like the Big Bang. The replacement may be even worse than the original problem! Steady State, Big Bang, Plasma — naturalistic theories of origins will continue to rise and fall.

As matters stand at present, there is no better astronomic theory for the origin of the universe than the inspired explanation of Scripture. "By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth. . . . For He spake, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast" (Psalm 33:6,9). ". . . for He commanded, and they were created" (Psalm 148:5).

The Plasma Universe | The Institute for Creation Research

A magnetohydrodynamic generator (MHD generator) is a magnetohydrodynamic device that transforms thermal energy and kinetic energy into electricity. MHD generators are different from traditional electric generators in that they operate at high temperatures without moving parts. MHD was developed because the hot exhaust gas of an MHD generator can heat the boilers of a steam power plant, increasing overall efficiency. MHD was developed as a topping cycle to increase the efficiency of electric generation, especially when burning coal or natural gas. MHD dynamos are the complement of MHD propulsors, which have been applied to pump liquid metals and in several experimental ship engines.

An MHD generator, like a conventional generator, relies on moving a conductor through a magnetic field to generate electric current. The MHD generator uses hot conductive plasma as the moving conductor. The mechanical dynamo, in contrast, uses the motion of mechanical devices to accomplish this. MHD generators are technically practical for fossil fuels, but have been overtaken by other, less expensive technologies, such as combined cycles in which a gas turbine's or molten carbonate fuel cell's exhaust heats steam to power a steam turbine.

Natural MHD dynamos are an active area of research in plasma physics and are of great interest to the geophysics and astrophysics communities, since the magnetic fields of the earth and sun are produced by these natural dynamos.

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Thanks Al for your response.

As an intrigued youngster soaking up the wonder of the space race, NASA moon missions etc. I remember clearly the many claims made at the time. In regard to lunar ranging the word at the time was this - the laser beam will be the size of a football when it reaches the reflector on the moon...

As a kid, like most, one doesn't question the detail, I just marvelled at the idea.

As an adult I have moved past this and realise the only way the lunar ranging paradigm works is if the laser has an enormous spread by the time it reaches the moon.

In any document I have read on the subject, the spread seems to vary between 5 - 6km...that's enormous, AND way bigger than a football. Which is about the size of the reflector left by Apollo 11.

Factor in all the variables and tolerances and the spread needs to be that big to give a fighting chance to explain the paradigm of lunar ranging between two high velocity platforms.

@ Ganbeir

You are making your point very well.

My point is simple. When the observable does not match the theoretical then questions get asked. The notion that the earth spins once a day and due to drag the atmosphere above it spins once every two days is observably wrong. There is no model that explains what we observe aligns with the theory.

But like all internet discussions there are no winners. But somehow, I feel the future will be written and re-written.
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My point is simple. When the observable does not match the theoretical then questions get asked. The notion that the earth spins once a day and due to drag the atmosphere above it spins once every two days is observably wrong. There is no model that explains what we observe aligns with the theory.

But like all internet discussions there are no winners. But somehow, I feel the future will be written and re-written.
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While our treatment of the various topics is quite uneven, with quantitative results
in some and qualitative results and speculation for others, the aether model proposed
enables one to pose questions and answer them in ways that are unaccessible in the
presently accepted picture of the universe.
It is unlikely that all the features of the model and all our speculations will turn out
to be correct on closer examination. However, the approach reopens a mode of thinking
that has been largely prohibited for the past century. From our results it appears to be a
fruitful approach.


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Thank you all for your supportive comments, and as for this thread, thank you for the chance to bring forward those things which I've previously stated.

Bringing on the New Dark Age.

We, the public body, clearly have a distorted and perverted understanding of reality: It is the recorded history of rulers to deny knowledge. Nothing has changed in that department. Indeed, it is all the more refined, and such that those who now deny knowledge do so by disguising it as education. Education is now so perverted that for the illuminated the joke is that it is education for nothing could be further from the truth. Rather it is a specialized form of private education projected on to the public: That's not education, it's indoctrination.

It is therefore natural that all of us are now beginning to question everything, and to see all things as errors and lies. That kind of massive revolutionary overthrow is the single most powerful indictment against accidental errors, and that means this overthrow, this popular uprising to question and overthrow all that came before is intentional, and the proof that it is intentional is the manufacture of ready made solutions to these previously and purposely misguided understandings, lies, and manipulations.

As a general rule the human mind follows the same rules of physics as all other matter: It will take the path of least resistance. The path of least resistance is, of course, to follow provided solutions to problems.




Hegelian dialectic's are routinely applied to the unconsciousness of the mind controlled masses, and this philosophy has been reduced to a basic outline for cattle herding: Problem, reaction, solution. Seeing the application of this form of dialectic in as many forms as the conscious mind can perceive, and so that with each new insight the inner eye of the mind opens to the reality of the world around themselves; that is what illumination is all about. To become illuminati means to see the light, and the light is the understanding that the predatory rule by unseen means, and in the full light of day.


Problem-Reaction-Solution
"In his book The New World Order H.G. Wells said that to cause this global revolution, conditions of “discomfort and resentment” would need to be arranged. Similarly, Toffler mentioned that to accelerate the drastic changes that will be occurring globally, crises will be strategically placed on existing political systems." New World War: Problem-Reaction-Solution

Global Revolution

It is always the object of controlling forces to utilize forms of energies which routinely interject themselves upon humanity along with the introduced technologies, such as this machine I'm now using to communicate, and to only allow these things to manifest under as controlled conditions as possible. This understanding is a key to maintaining rule and are exploited as far as possible in order to consolidate power and to strengthen control over the minds of humanity.

We may be so naive as to be lead to believe that this all was quite accidental, but then gullibility, the destruction of creativity, and classical conditioning to authority are all the primary objectives of societal control systems: Schools, Religions, Politics, and many lesser tools.

To really understand this it is necessary to dedicate one's own self to an independent inquiry in to the history of such things as the philosophy behind public education and from which an individual can gain a foundation to begin building your own illumination upon.


The War on Consciousness: Addresses to the German Nation

Johann Gottlieb Fichte is the person whom is responsible for the educational system today in America and throughout the Western World. It is a Prussian Army style of education. Since then it's been modified to suit a factory style system. It is a dangerous, intentionally harmful, mentally destructive system. John Taylor Gatto speaks about this system in a series of interviews called; The Ultimate History Lesson. It is a 5-hour journey examining the history, root-causes, and consequences of public schooling. I cannot speak highly enough about the work of John Taylor Gatto. It's widely available on youtube and other places.

There is essentially no living being today whom has not been a victim of this mind control program. As a result, it is our nature to now follow the provided answers and solutions to problems which were themselves the creation of others: Here be dragons.
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Of course, the earth doesn't move.

Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be moved for ever. Psalm 104:5

Not only that, but the earth is flat.

We live in a terrarium, created by the Most High.

Another name for this terrarium is called living under the firmament. The firmament is a dome. What is on the other side of that dome is water.

There's no space, not planets, and the stars are not suns.

The sun and the moon make their circuits above the flat earth.

This is the truth.
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Of course, the earth doesn't move.

Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be moved for ever. Psalm 104:5

Not only that, but the earth is flat.

We live in a terrarium, created by the Most High.

Another name for this terrarium is called living under the firmament. The firmament is a dome. What is on the other side of that dome is water.

There's no space, not planets, and the stars are not suns.

The sun and the moon make their circuits above the flat earth.

This is the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9JFvnT-QiI


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OK...I'm no astro-nut by any means, but that doesn't stop me from pretending I could be if I really wanted. On that note, here save yourselves 100 thousand dollars and just read this stuff instead.

Astronomy 101 University of Washington.
Astronomy 101 - Introductory Astronomy

Class Tools Syllabus
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...abus.Spr17.pdf
Animations and Applets page for additional material.
Astronomy 101 - Introductory Astronomy
Lecture One - The Big Picture (Extended Director's Cut)
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure1.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Two - Patterns in the Skies
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure2.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Three - Space, Time, and the Motion of the Earth
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure3.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Four - The Copernican and Newtonian Revolutions
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure4.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Five - Terrestrial and Jovian Planets
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure5.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Six - Asteroids, Comets, and the Edge of the Solar System
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure6.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Seven - Chaos and Contingency in Planetary Systems
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure7.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Eight - Light and Spectra
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure8.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Nine - Telescopes, and The Sun Amongst the Stars (Part I)
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...ure9.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Ten - The Sun Amongst the Stars Part II; Star Clusters and Stellar Ages
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...re10.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Eleven - Dwarves, Giant, and Gold
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...re11.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Twelve - White Dwarfs and Neutron Stars
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...re12.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Thirteen - Black Holes
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...re13.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Fourteen - Discovering the Milky Way
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...re14.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Fifteen - Looking for Life in Our Galaxy
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...re15.Spr17.pdf
Lecture Sixteen - The Extragalactic Universe
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...re16.Spr17.pdf


Advanced Astrophysics Lectures University of Washington.
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...9/lecture1.pdf
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...9/lecture2.pdf
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...9/lecture3.pdf
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...9/lecture4.pdf
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...9/lecture5.pdf
http://www.astro.washington.edu/user...9/lecture6.pdf
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I appreciate cleverness as long as it isn't deceptiveness.

The object of posting all the previous was not to attempt to refute the posting. Truth will become manifest as we humans find the means to see the planet for our own selves in due course. Biblical explanations of reality have their place. It is thought that about 2% of any population requires a form of spiritual belief. To a lesser degree the appeal and comfort which is derived form formalized systems provides a sense of knowledge and security to other individuals as part of a collective. That conformity, which is required of any group whom takes up the belief structure, is an exploitable resource, and it is the real object of power to both create and then to maintain control over those systems. In the end it' free thought, free speech, and the freedom to be an individual which is what matters.

Giordano Bruno, wearing a dunce cap, is gagged and bound tied to the stake and burned alive.

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Now I debated about posting this but since I went to the work and want to say it, then, I guess I will post it even if it seems to be off base. A bit of a rant perhaps but maybe enjoyable to some, offending to others, but be that as it may this is what I think.

Perhaps the most valuable thing in this topic is to be found in the understanding that ancient powers still rule the Globe. Coming to terms with this understanding is probably less believable to today's youth than the idea of a flat earth sitting motionless in space, and yet it is undeniable that the people whom are behind this idea are one and the same.

Antiquated tenets of organized crime lords bearing crosses find less and less favor among liberated minds; the frantic and maniacal extremes to which they now resort are visible to the aware. This idea of a flat planet sitting motionless being a manifestly obvious one, for the roots to the source are as clear as if they had sign posts pointing the way back to those sources, for it has the unmistakable cloaking of darkness around it, and those are the fingerprints by which history records their deeds and for which humanity knows their infamy.

While this goes on these ancient forces mount disguised assault upon disguised assault, co-opting the unawares, re-naming self appointed Dudley Do Rights as Social Justice Warriors, enlisting the wealthy with plots of greed, whom will be relieved of their possessions once their mission is complete, fat turkeys waiting to set the table. These ancient evils have several thousands of years experience feeding off of the exploitable failing of individuals.

Only the intentional distancing of the idea that there exists centralized powers is what prevents most from seeing them. Only the unaware believe that their own faith is not a part of that ancient predatory system.

Religion isn't about communion with God, except for the believers, rather religion is about mind control, and mind control is fundamentally a political system. Governments are inventions of these ancient political power systems. Today's so called religions are branches of the same power structures just like all the political creatures are regardless of whom they are or where they are at on this planet. The ability to control and rule over those political believers now manifest as the pedophiles are exposed globally, one by one, and yet that too is the proof that these governmental systems, which were supposedly created to protect us all from these evils, have been under their complete control all along. It's proof that these powers rule by stealth and that they can destroy destroy as easily as create systems because our systems of government have human weaknesses they can still exploit, be they sexual perversion, political fanaticism, religious idealisms, greed, or a thousand other failures which our species have shown themselves to be adept at.

All around us are the signs that these people are behind the curtain. For example, hate speech ideas are anti-freedom and anti-american values. In reality supporting these ideas amount to acts of high treason because they are violating the supreme laws of the people in the American Bills of Rights. These and many more are all around us. We are being bombarded with fascistia double speak, perverted sciences, both officially approved and one's like this one. All I can say is that this particular one has every marking to it other than a stamp from the Vatican whilst wrapped in a black robe.
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I want to drive one more nail in this flat earth idea and that's the gravitational field. Gravitational fields are spherical.

THE GREATEST STANDING ERRORS IN PHYSICS
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Homepage for Miles Mathis science site

The Moon Gives up a Secret; by Miles Mathis
The Moon Gives up a Secret by Miles Williams Mathis

"the gravitational field was always spherical, and the inverse square law always applied to the spherical field. This has been known empirically for centuries"
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Keep it simple

Flat earth = flat head = 2 dimensional thinking=very limited and mind control

psychopath doesnt give a dam about anyone but themselves
sociopath is only concerned with themselves and the immediate family and maybe very close friends
why do you think the mafias are mostly if not all psycho or socio paths?
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