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“Eizelement” is not the full word but in German this stands for “Magnets”

*****This is completely inaccurate: It directly translates specifically to heating element

I linked to Torque Converters. Torque Converters because they are turbines encased in a steel egg. Perhaps a ready made recycling source for an annular ducted fan, and they also have a connection of sorts to the Clem Engine.

In the Clem Engine the medium is oil, which is incompressible, so in looking at that motor as the cone thing rotates the base picks up oil on fingers lining the inside of the cone. As the oil reaches the top it then proceeds outwards along the disk. At the edges of the disk are butterfly valves, as in a pulse jet, or possibly a constricted orifice, but likely a valve arrangement like on a pulse jet, and as the force of oil carried outwards exceeds the valves spring action, it then opens and a pulse of oil is ejected before snapping closed once more and then it's repeated. Each time these valves are closed the oil moving up the spinning cone adds compression to the atmosphere contained inside the cone. It's pretty simple actually.



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Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!

Look at a pulse jet. Either by means of a flap, or by way of metered flow, the Clem Motor is incorporating elements of pulse jet, a fan jet, a axial flow jet motor, a tornado, and a flywheel.
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Just an update here Allen on my progress...well there isn't any. LOL! The dollar store bowls I bought appeared OK, but then the fight started after I had laid up some paper and then tried to remove it for the saucer hulls.

I ended up having to tear it all out as the glue had adheared itself to the inside. This was a surprise considering previous experience. So now I've gotten them cleaned up once more, and am in the process of applying some wax, it's just car wax is all. Waxing molds is common practice. I just didn't think I needed to do it. Well that was a mistake.

Hopefully in couple days I can post an image of the kind of thing one can expect if they follow this path.
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Turn the volume down on the soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyJnId40pek
I have been meaning to get back to a couple links you posted.

I've seen Deacken Frosts' video previously. I understand a little more now, and appreciate you posting this video. It's a good video. I can see and understand what he's talking about. I think it's a significant video and worth referring to. I'm not at all sure the ARV is using AC in this way. I think the design of the ARV is more primitive and is involved with extreme DC voltages and atmospheric charging, but I could be wrong since I just don't know enough yet to see one way or the other for sure, but this feeling is partly why I feel the ARV is a very old machine and part of an as yet unknown true history which probably dates back to the last Global War.

For all we know the ARV could be the American knock-off of the Hanabau's. Frankly that's the most likely probability based off all the other revealed lies that have managed to sneak their way out. However, I'm just completely incompetent to judge something like that right now, but that's what I'm seeing.

Another point worth mentioning in my view is the interaction of forces, or the Lorentz force; which I feel is of interest since it's an apparent electromagnetic demonstration of what in rotary wing aircraft would be referred to as precession. Gyroscopic precession is a phenomenon occurring in rotating bodies in which an applied force is manifested 90 degrees later in the direction of rotation from where the force was applied.

While in the Lorentz Force: is the force exerted on a charged particle q moving with velocity v through an electric E and magnetic field B
https://www.britannica.com/science/Lorentz-force We are talking here about the movement of a charged particle which is in rotation and then acted upon by another force, in this case magnetic. Hence I have to wonder if there is a direct relationship which is the reason for citing gyroscopic precession of rotating objects. Just something I see and wonder if there is precession going on with charged particles moving through a magnetic field: Would seem logical.

https://phys.libretexts.org/TextMaps...Magnetic_Field

Now I think the ideas presented by Deacken Frost are much more in keeping with what I think may be involved with a more advanced drive system, but which evolved quite naturally out of the design of the ARV. I think if you stare long enough and hard enough at the drawings of the ARV you might begin to see a Magnetron inside that thing. Can you see how this method could then replicate a rotating magnetic field without the magnetic field actually rotating?

magnetrons:

Negative resistance type
Cyclotron frequency type
Travelling wave or Cavity type

As I've previously mentioned, there is in the ARV hints to associations with microwaves. Now in the Deacken Frost video he shows how the vector of an AC current in both positive and negative fields can interact with a magnetic field to produce an upward force if there is a rotating magnetic field. He then goes on to tell you to watch part 5 of how to create a rotating field, and which doesn't exist, or at least Screw Tube isn't posting it. Why is this? Well it's because the magnetic field is what decides the direction a charged particle will follow.

"The simplest case occurs when a charged particle moves perpendicular to a uniform B-field (Figure). If the field is in a vacuum, the magnetic field is the dominant factor determining the motion. Since the magnetic force is perpendicular to the direction of travel, a charged particle follows a curved path in a magnetic field. The particle continues to follow this curved path until it forms a complete circle. Another way to look at this is that the magnetic force is always perpendicular to velocity, so that it does no work on the charged particle. The particle’s kinetic energy and speed thus remain constant. The direction of motion is affected but not the speed." Nor, might I add, is the kinetic energy of the particle altered.

https://phys.libretexts.org/TextMaps...Magnetic_Field

Now, so far no one has shown me convincing evidence that they have created a rotating magnetic field simply because the magnetic field appears to be in Rodin Coil pattern. Is that a rotating magnetic field or just a magnetic field?

If you cannot make a magnetic field rotate with a high enough frequency to realistically use AC then you could maybe project the charged particles in a pattern and with the required frequency which is high enough to use AC: If that makes any sense, and I'm not sure it does, but I'm speculating here. Maybe you don't need AC and could just do that with DC as well, which is sort of what I am leaning towards as the rationale behind the 48 pie plates capacitors in the base of the ARV.

Now possibly I've answered my own question here about how the ARV works. I'll have to think about this but if you have a powerful magnet, say super conductive, above these so called capacitors, and which are then being fired off in a cycle or cycloid pattern, wouldn't that then pull those charged particles up wards? Is that all that's going on with that thing?

Your thoughts? Anyone?
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GAP piggyback.

This new updated GAP design by KEhYo is just right for a pigguback output coil: He just responded to a personal message from me and said he was going to try it. Placing an output coil around the backing magnets would circumvent "Lenz Drag" and generate output from induction alone!

Here's his first build with no output coils:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxrJoGZy1to
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Thanks for the update Allen. Nice images.
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Just reporting in Allen. Still with you on this. I've been off in the wilds collecting data and am in process of examining it. What I've found is a cross over to the ARV thread, as one might expect it would actually. Keep in mind here that while it might not appear that I'm with you on the magnetic/charged particle/pyrolitic carbon....I am...OK? Computing...

So I re-examined a little known saucer vehicle known as the Northrup Ns-97. There seems to be extremely little information on the design. This is an interesting story. Nick Stasinos was a graduate of the Northrup school of aviation.


The Northrop NS-97 concept, was designed by Nick Stasinos in 1950. Nick was an engineering graduate of the Northrop Aeronautical Institute. Stasinos's disc had a revolving outer shell and held eight turbo-jet ports. The center of the disc stayed stationary, along with the cockpit for the pilot. Two main jets provided the push and the eight turbo-jets provided the spin. The original Stasinos photos are archived at the Project SIGN Research Center. Interestingly, I think, Stasino's died on one of Los Angeles freeways. Supposedly by way of heart attack. Remember here....this is 1950.

The design was featured in The Ogden Standard-Examiner from Ogden, Utah · Page 24. 1950 A tiny thumbnail image can be seen here of that page. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/31065931/
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/31065931/





You want to go here. You need Chrome or a translate

http://hkxb.buaa.edu.cn/CN/html/20160206.html

and here

http://www.tech-domain.com/archiver/...55.html?page=1
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Just reporting in Allen. Still with you on this. I've been off in the wilds collecting data and am in process of examining it. What I've found is a cross over to the ARV thread, as one might expect it would actually. Keep in mind here that while it might not appear that I'm with you on the magnetic/charged particle/pyrolitic carbon....I am...OK? Computing...

So I re-examined a little known saucer vehicle known as the Northrup Ns-97. There seems to be extremely little information on the design. This is an interesting story. Nick Stasinos was a graduate of the Northrup school of aviation.


The Northrop NS-97 concept, was designed by Nick Stasinos in 1950. Nick was an engineering graduate of the Northrop Aeronautical Institute. Stasinos's disc had a revolving outer shell and held eight turbo-jet ports. The center of the disc stayed stationary, along with the cockpit for the pilot. Two main jets provided the push and the eight turbo-jets provided the spin. The original Stasinos photos are archived at the Project SIGN Research Center. Interestingly, I think, Stasino's died on one of Los Angeles freeways. Supposedly by way of heart attack. Remember here....this is 1950.

The design was featured in The Ogden Standard-Examiner from Ogden, Utah · Page 24. 1950 A tiny thumbnail image can be seen here of that page. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/31065931/
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You want to go here. You need Chrome or a translate

http://hkxb.buaa.edu.cn/CN/html/20160206.html

and here

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Wow: Never saw that one before. Thanks!
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There's almost Zero information. Appears to have been systematically scrubbed. The NS-97 appears to be a VTOL Coanda Effect Saucer, and using some or all of the effects you have reported. The design is a bit puzzling frankly: The question is; where are the design prints for the NS-97? I'd love to see what Nick came up with in 1950.

This link on the Coanda Effect is useful and concise.
COANDA EFFECT | Acheon Project

The links I've provided are like looking at conventional explanations for tornado's: There is no accounting for any other influences such as electrostatic charges, magnetic fields, and the like. It's all aerodynamics without any other considerations, and ya know; that's an incomplete understanding of what is going on.

From Peter Thomson *Charged Sheath Vortex
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Flight 587 destroyed by a charge sheath vortex
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nes_Flight_587

Electrons are confined in a wire, but in free space such as the atmosphere or space itself, any particle or mass with a similar charge to that of the surrounding space can move within the same charged space. More importantly, this movement of a similarly charged mass withing the surrounding like wise charged space can then influence that mass of charged space to itself move. One might then envision this as a kind of servo flap which actually flys the main control surface on aircraft.

Giesbert Nijhuis video's of the tornado's he has created in a vacuum shows there is an electrostatic exchange developing between the colliding inner and outer spiral tubes; one descending and one ascending, which are creating circular lights in a rainbow effect as energy particles collide with each other.

Tornado Rainbow Effects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d3AwlT8wkE

Spinning Top lifts off in the artificial tornado. This is pretty interesting actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KznKoh1-0eo
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Ok now I get even

Check this one...just got to doing a little digging and bing, bongo, El Torito!
Bobbin electromagnetic field propulsion vehicle


https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p...0030209636.pdf

https://www.google.com/patents/US200...kc4ChDoAQgoMAE



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Here I resized the bobbin patent drawing for easier viewing.
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Allen, let's recap and combine: This is what I'm seeing.

In the Bobbin design, as well as the other patents, there is a magnetic vortex generator which is described as; "either a rotating magnet or a dual coil." In one patent he describes this vortex generator as a tube with bar magnets and mechanically powered. Importantly then he goes on to say in the Bobbin Patent that in Claim 3 that this Vortex generator has; "A circular, direct-current carrying solenoid, located radially inside the toroidal core, to create the magnetic moment."

*Note here that when he says Toroidal, that can just as easily be interpreted as meaning Vortex, or Spiral, or Spiraling Forms.

In this sketch I provided in the ARV (Inquiry In To The Alien Reproduction Vehicle) Which I will attach here for easement, one can see there was described by Abductees a similar solenoid like arrangement which surrounds the vertical columns, and which then does itself lead in to what is evidently another magnet at the base and which is then surrounded by another solenoid coil which is located in a hallow below the decking. This is in keeping with the St. Clair descriptions where the vortex generators project below the hull of the spacecraft.
An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

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Claim 7.
"magnetic vortex generator, either rotating magnet or dual coil, to produce a wormhole through which low linear mass and low speed of light hyperspace."
https://www.google.com/patents/US200...kc4ChDoAQgoMAE


Now the dual toroidal coils appears to be the type you previously posted. What it seems to be missing is the center solenoid, and or one which might surround it. ATG/Telos Quadra test series.
http://freenrg.info/Physics/Scalar_V...WireLoaded.jpg

Now I was reviewing James McCambell paper on the effects of UFO's on people. Among the many things which seem to validate man made machines are the very early descriptions of chasing UFO's that have the same shape as the NS-97, and were described as emitting a firey flame from the edges. Just thought I'd post that since it's so suspiciously accurate in how it matches the supposedly un-built Northrup Saucer.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/pdf/ufoeffects.pdf

Further, the James McCambell paper is worth rereading as we gain greater understanding since what seems to have passed for alien machines now appear ever more likely to have been human made machines, only ones which no one understood at the time. Here we can see from descriptions of UFO sightings over water that a vortex funnel is involved in at least some of the vehicles propulsion systems. Again, this matches our own understanding today.

http://www.hyper.net/ufo/physics.html
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I mentioned using graphite from a pencil because graphite is known to occasionally exhibit superconductivity, sometimes this effect can be produced by doping with alkalines, but other times just water which I suppose could have a ph balance that would work. Yes, this is a room temp effect which evidently happens in minute isolated sections, but which is real. I believe that T. Townsend Browns first capacitors also used lead. Anyway the lead suggestion was off the cuff but thought it may produce some effect and partly because these room temp superconductivity effects happen within very thin layers, like those which a pencil would leave behind. At least this is what I'm recalling right now from the reading I've done on the topic.

So I'm looking at N52 magnets and wondering what I should buy but I'm waiting for a battle report. Please check in so that we know the greys haven't found out about you or that you've otherwise self teleported to another dimension whilst messing about with pencils, magnets, and other forbidden tools, like say wash pump motors, because quite honestly I thought it was general knowledge that a high speed blender motor is the required scientifically designed motor for these kind of experiments. Preferably one that has a speed control already attached. No sense messing with speed controls when they are readily available; a kind of time saver ya know. Just a tip mind you and Keep us in the loop.
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Now in this post I'm serious and I debated on posting this because it is far fetched, at least I think it is, but I really don't know and it's bothering me so I'm posting this as food for thought. Now I realize this all seems highly unlikely but what do we really know?

These spinning magnetic fields could potentially be doing unexpected things. Now I would not expect the manifestation of such things at the energy levels we are involved with, but what do we really know, like who has done this before? As a result, sensing this I wanted to bring forward the understanding that manifestion of lights signals particle interactions, and so that if by chance you begin to see lights you need to back off and regroup.

From the videos where artificial vortex's/tornado's are produced, and where in lights are seen to propagate in rings, that effect isn't something I'm aware of or have run across in literature. That is to say, it either isn't recognized, or isn't mentioned, or I just haven't found it, but while convention says that such effects may be resultant from known interactions, those same circular lights or others yet unknown, and if displayed while involved in vortexs of magnetic fields may involve forced concentrations of the sub-atomic-space particles known as quarks and gluons in conventional particle physics.

A vortex producing a vacuum on another sub-space beyond this dimension, a part of the string theory, from which these same quanta are likely to come from, and then spun into concentrations only to be pulled apart by gyroscopic centrifugal forces; then it would be expected that action would produce sparks of light in concentrated forms, probably circular or spiral in shap, which is what one would expect from high speed magnetic vortex's.

Typically a mist of green is described in incidents of vanishing and or teleportations, though other colors are also possible. These mists are associated with wildly gyrating compasses, or other misbehavior of electrical equipment, as well as temporal time effects and to include such phenomena as invisibility and loss of radar visibility in respect to ships and planes from an exterior point of view.

Color charge-The particle adventure.
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Ran across this and thought I'd post it for informational purposes more than anything else. Might be useful to some. A very unique revised jet thrust motor system they are calling a "thermoreactor."

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So I don't know if you're still out there Allen, but if so this is the paper on graphite and it's hidden superconductivity. Pretty thick stuff.

Invited review: Graphite and its hidden superconductivity by P. Esquinazi
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1312.4459.pdf

"We review experimental results, from transport to magnetization measurements, on different
graphite samples, from bulk oriented graphite, thin graphite films to transmission
electron microscope lamellae, that indicate the existence of granular superconductivity
at temperatures above 100 K. The accumulated evidence speaks for a localization of the
superconducting phase(s) at certain interfaces embedded in semiconducting crystalline
regions with Bernal stacking order."

Just posting for associated info. I realize you understand this already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilayer_graphene
Emergent complex states: In 2014 researchers described the emergence of complex electronic states in bilayer graphene, notably the fractional quantum Hall effect and showed that this could be tuned by an electric field

Bilayer graphene showed the potential to realize a Bose–Einstein condensate of excitons.[17] Electrons and holes are fermions, but when they form an exciton, they become bosons, allowing Bose-Einstein condensation to occur. Exciton condensates in bilayer systems have been shown theoretically to carry a large current.

Bilayer graphene can be used to construct field effect transistors.[19]
In 2016 researchers announced the use of bilayer graphene to increase the output voltage of tunnel transistors (TT). They operate at a lower operating voltage range (150 mV) than silicon transistors (500 mV). Bilayer graphene's energy band is unlike that of most semiconductors in that the electrons around the edges form a (high density) van Hove singularity. This supplies sufficient electrons to increase current flow across the energy barrier. Bilayer graphene transistors use "electrical" rather than "chemical" doping.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphe...um_Hall_effect
Graphene has many unusual properties. It is about 200 times stronger than the strongest steel. It efficiently conducts heat and electricity and is nearly transparent.[3] Graphene shows a large and nonlinear diamagnetism,[4] greater than graphite and can be levitated by neodymium magnets.

For novices like myself I found this article, which is also downloadable as a pdf, is helpful.
From the Anomalous Hall Effect
to the Quantum Anomalous Hall Effect
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