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Not sure if you fellows have seen this Vid
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very telling IMO.. RE: "Sun extinction Cycle " By Dr.August Dunning
A few of the scientists in OUR community follow his comments with interest.
always wondered why Elon was so quick to get us off the planet or would be in the tunnel business ..Usually nightmare regulated..
but he is getting permission to tunnel so easily ?.
perhaps just a cover for ever ambitious tunneling projects ??

maybe the Parker probe is trying to get a better grasp on the actual timeline ?

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Magnet Down A Pipe

Wheeler in one of his less in your face video's gives a demonstration of dropping a magnet down a copper pipe. I've posted that video several times. That video is one to ponder, not something to pass over lightly, because it's telling you something more than even the video itself is supposedly about. Now this next video of his does dovetail with this in that electromagnetic retardation has direct effects upon our perception of time, and it is proven that a polarized magnetic field has direct effects upon life, which Wheeler mentions in this next video as having been demonstrated conclusively many times over

My friend in Russia was also dropping magnet down a pipe last year. Difference is he started getting ''DUST'' out of his pipe even tho pipe itself hasn't lost any weight.
I wonder if Wheeler also had ''dust''
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so, a magnetic mono pole is an electric field...
and I would say the 2 are at 90 degrees to each other.
I think it is correct, but also remember this is a reinvent of a very well known idea.
Sorry for the delay, had a few computer problems, but mostly I just needed to take a time out. I know my brain will figure it out all by itself if I just let it do what it's supposed to instead of constantly trying to force it. Mainly I was passing along a thought. That being the machine is pre-solid state and so it's probably electromechanical. However, how exactly that would work I haven't deduced, or even if it's possible or necessary, but something to think about. I was reflecting on the inner spiral tubes of the central column while babbling. I think I now have about half of this worked out theoretically speaking.

The ARV uses a combined propulsion system consisting first of a closed cycle electromagneto drive as outlined by Oleg D. Jefimenko and as demonstrated by Ken Wheeler. This is the Central Column Tube which contains a gas or fluid that will produce the effective same results as shown in the magnet being dropped down a tube. Only of course we are forcing this to happen via an electrically powered series of magnets which provide the reaction by being set off in a repeating cascade. The speed of the cascade and the substance that reacts with the electromagnets together determine the reactive force.

At the bottom of the ARV are the Pie Shaped Quartz Plates. This is the secondary part of the propulsion system. Here I'm speculating based on what I now think I understand. Please keep that in mind. This is probably not right and will change as knowledge increases. Right now this is what I think is happening.

The magnetic and electric are transferred via wireless (*see big pit with wire's that the tube sits in) which is carried out wards. This energy is evidently aided in evacuation with the help of a large electromagnet which surrounds the exterior about half way up that forms the walkway where the crew compartment door is located. As the energy is passing through the so-called capacitor plates the quartz creates a gravitational mass.

*Note; so it's a flat earth right? Kind of interesting how that works huh?

In the ARV design most of what is understood is turned inside out. This is a little confusing how this works because according to theory the energies of space and counter space move towards the center. For this reason these plates and the way they interact with the column stymied me for a while. You would think that the energy has to move inwards and those pie shaped plates seem to strongly suggest that is what the design was intending, but after realizing how the central column worked I began to see how the reverse might be taking place.

The center is still there, but it's the electromagnetic center, and it is within the central column. The plates create the false mass. Which say's that the behavior of the quartz is such that when energies pass through it a gravitational mass weight is induced and that gravitational mass is variable because it's controllable by the energy and speed of the electromagneto propulsion system.

I know this is a little counter-intuitive but it makes sense in terms of explaining the reports about the scale and speed of this design. Wherein, supposedly the bigger they are, the faster they can travel, and so there appears to be some logic going on with the idea because Quartz (evidently) perturbs electromagnetic energy the most and can therefore create an artificial mass (false mass). We already know there's truth to this because it's long been known that area's rich in quartz are infamous for the unexplained including levitation of objects in so-called poltergeists.

Finally, when powered up and buttoned up for safety, the evacuated electromagnetic energy is pulled out of the bottom of the vehicle along the edges of the so-called capacitors with the assistance of an electromagnetic ring along the upper exterior and which rings the large aluminum disk forming the crew deck in the McCandlish Illustration. This aluminum disk and the location of the ring magnet is your big clue that more is going on than meets the eye because this says there is counter-space being taken back up to the core of the electro-magnet in the central column.

* Ever wonder why someone would name a project winterhaven?
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In all of the foregoing work, low temperature researches involving the cryostat would ,be of fundamental importance;
for although the dielectrics are not usually used at low temperatures, many of the characteristics which determine their behavior at ordinary
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Sorry for the delay, had a few computer problems, but mostly I just needed to take a time out. I know my brain will figure it out all by itself if I just let it do what it's supposed to instead of constantly trying to force it. Mainly I was passing along a thought. That being the machine is pre-solid state and so it's probably electromechanical. However, how exactly that would work I haven't deduced, or even if it's possible or necessary, but something to think about. I was reflecting on the inner spiral tubes of the central column while babbling. I think I now have about half of this worked out theoretically speaking.

The ARV uses a combined propulsion system consisting first of a closed cycle electromagneto drive as outlined by Oleg D. Jefimenko and as demonstrated by Ken Wheeler. This is the Central Column Tube which contains a gas or fluid that will produce the effective same results as shown in the magnet being dropped down a tube. Only of course we are forcing this to happen via an electrically powered series of magnets which provide the reaction by being set off in a repeating cascade. The speed of the cascade and the substance that reacts with the electromagnets together determine the reactive force.

At the bottom of the ARV are the Pie Shaped Quartz Plates. This is the secondary part of the propulsion system. Here I'm speculating based on what I now think I understand. Please keep that in mind. This is probably not right and will change as knowledge increases. Right now this is what I think is happening.

The magnetic and electric are transferred via wireless (*see big pit with wire's that the tube sits in) which is carried out wards. This energy is evidently aided in evacuation with the help of a large electromagnet which surrounds the exterior about half way up that forms the walkway where the crew compartment door is located. As the energy is passing through the so-called capacitor plates the quartz creates a gravitational mass.

*Note; so it's a flat earth right? Kind of interesting how that works huh?

In the ARV design most of what is understood is turned inside out. This is a little confusing how this works because according to theory the energies of space and counter space move towards the center. For this reason these plates and the way they interact with the column stymied me for a while. You would think that the energy has to move inwards and those pie shaped plates seem to strongly suggest that is what the design was intending, but after realizing how the central column worked I began to see how the reverse might be taking place.

The center is still there, but it's the electromagnetic center, and it is within the central column. The plates create the false mass. Which say's that the behavior of the quartz is such that when energies pass through it a gravitational mass weight is induced and that gravitational mass is variable because it's controllable by the energy and speed of the electromagneto propulsion system.

I know this is a little counter-intuitive but it makes sense in terms of explaining the reports about the scale and speed of this design. Wherein, supposedly the bigger they are, the faster they can travel, and so there appears to be some logic going on with the idea because Quartz (evidently) perturbs electromagnetic energy the most and can therefore create an artificial mass (false mass). We already know there's truth to this because it's long been known that area's rich in quartz are infamous for the unexplained including levitation of objects in so-called poltergeists.

Finally, when powered up and buttoned up for safety, the evacuated electromagnetic energy is pulled out of the bottom of the vehicle along the edges of the so-called capacitors with the assistance of an electromagnetic ring along the upper exterior and which rings the large aluminum disk forming the crew deck in the McCandlish Illustration. This aluminum disk and the location of the ring magnet is your big clue that more is going on than meets the eye because this says there is counter-space being taken back up to the core of the electro-magnet in the central column.

* Ever wonder why someone would name a project winterhaven?
Remember that almost all of Earth History is in Glacial Ice. Like I mean all of it. Not parts of it.
THANK YOU! Great post.

Questions this raises include does synthetic crystallize quartz do the same thing, can the pie shaped discs just be replaced with an acceptable mass of quartz regardless of shape, inferior shapes merely lowering efficiency?

What regions with quartz have the most stories of levitation? That would be the material to start with.
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THANK YOU! Great post.

Questions this raises include does synthetic crystallize quartz do the same thing, can the pie shaped discs just be replaced with an acceptable mass of quartz regardless of shape, inferior shapes merely lowering efficiency?

What regions with quartz have the most stories of levitation? That would be the material to start with.
Thank you, but just keep in mind that how I described the operation could be backwards. Meaning that the electromagnetic field should be a ball surrounding the vehicle much like a planet has, and it is intuitive that the pie shaped capacitors should be receiving energy from the outside and afterwards moving inwards to the center. Which would be the reverse of my previous statement of theorized operation.

That is to say; which way does the energy flow through the quartz based pie capacitors? Since the machine is surrounded in a magnetic field I'm not sure which makes the most sense at this time. This is a demonstration of my own lack of knowledge. The issue of directional flow is one for those experienced in wireless power transmission to determine.

The main thing is to see how the machine is like a planet when in operation.

Now quartz is composed of silica and oxygen tied together in a continuous framework which form a tetrahedra pattern. This tetrahedra pattern looks like this. From Wikipedia
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...l-3D-balls.png

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Notice here that there is a central core to the crystal binding the three outer crystal shapes together. Counter-spacial energies following the crystals pattern are taken inwards to a center point. So it appears that the geometry of the crystal is what is significant. Meaning that, in terms of understanding how counter-space moves through matter to escape from a central point, and thereby creating a magnetic field, it is the pattern of the crystals which matters: In this case a tetrahedron shaped crystal with a core point. Convergence of counter-space to a central point is what produces magnetism, and in an incoherent field of matter each molecule is independently creating a magnetic field, with the end result being the clumping of mass in a mass-mutual attraction of jumbled magnetic fields and creating a MMA (mutual mass attraction field). The end result being convergence at the core central point of that mass; ie gravity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrah...cular_geometry

Quartz is composed of silica and oxygen. Silicon dioxide is the most common element on earth and most commonly found in quartz. Most crystalline forms of silica are made of infinite tetrahedra. Refined it produces silicon; the basis of our modern world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor

The ARV is pre-modern: That's why there is quartz being used and not other material being used. Materials such as magnesium, also known as Elektron, and alloys of it, including Aluminum, were either not understood as related through crystalline geometry or were unsuitable at the time. Serious research and classification of crystals wasn't even begun until 1960 and my suspicion is the launching of a formalized study and classification of crystals was due to the realization that this is where the rubber meets the road.

Now the problem I've found is that once you leave quartz crystals, once you go looking for a suitable replacement, there is a bewildering series of paths of bamboozling unrelated material connections involving conventional physics and these ideas about electrons, valance bonding, and on and on and on. I'm not convinced a single human mind can hold it all and make sense of it quite frankly. I think the real key is to search for connections between the geometry of crystals while keeping in mind the general idea about the way counter-space seems to be perturbed by patterns and flows through them, with evidently those having a converging point linking to outer crystals being the enabling point where gravitational/magnetic fields are generated.
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or
"cold current"
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In all of the foregoing work, low temperature researches involving the cryostat would ,be of fundamental importance;
for although the dielectrics are not usually used at low temperatures, many of the characteristics which determine their behavior at ordinary
temperatures can be examined more readily by experiments performed at low temperatures.

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Or cold current: A blizzard of an idea huh?
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I forgot to say that the hubris of humanity is to seek to improve upon nature, a fools errand no doubt, and in that quest is this search for a better material. I'm not sure that's possible. Cheaper maybe, better I don't know, the evidence doesn't seem to support that idea.

"UFO crashed on Hill 611 and debris was recovered which contained a matrix of fine gold wire substrate sheathed in quartz."
https://rense.com/general54/babalc.htm

Other examples are known. I know of at least one other report of ancient remains of what appears to have been an automated factory located in Russian. These factories evidently took in raw material searching for perfect stones, quartz evidently, with huge piles of rejects laying about. Thought to be tens of thousand or even hundreds of thousands of year old is what I heard. Sorry I don't have a link right now and I haven't gotten this story corroborated either but I have heard it reported in an unrelated areas involving so-called quantum computers.

Also Quartz can be chiral; right and left handed. This is probably significant and important to keep in mind.

" Silicon is the eighth most common element in the universe by mass, but very rarely occurs as the pure element in the Earth's crust. It is most widely distributed in dusts, sands, planetoids, and planets as various forms of silicon dioxide (silica) or silicates. More than 90% of the Earth's crust is composed of silicate minerals, making silicon the second most abundant element in the Earth's crust (about 28% by mass) after oxygen."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon
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By mass, aluminium makes up about 8% of the Earth's crust; it is the third most abundant element after oxygen and silicon (in the Earth's crust)"

Aluminium metal, when in quantity, is very shiny and resembles silver because it preferentially absorbs far ultraviolet radiation while reflecting all visible light so it does not impart any color to reflected light, unlike the reflectance spectra of copper and gold. Another important characteristic of aluminium is its low density, 2.70 g/cm3.[19][c] Aluminium is a relatively soft, durable, lightweight, ductile, and malleable with appearance ranging from silvery to dull gray, depending on the surface roughness. It is nonmagnetic and does not easily ignite. A fresh film of aluminium serves as a good reflector (approximately 92%) of visible light and an excellent reflector (as much as 98%) of medium and far infrared radiation. The yield strength of pure aluminium is 7–11 MPa, while aluminium alloys have yield strengths ranging from 200 MPa to 600 MPa.[20] Aluminium has about one-third the density and stiffness of steel. It is easily machined, cast, drawn and extruded.

Aluminium atoms are arranged in a face-centered cubic (fcc) structure. Aluminium has a stacking-fault energy of approximately 200 mJ/m2.[21]

Aluminium is a good thermal and electrical conductor, having 59% the conductivity of copper, both thermal and electrical, while having only 30% of copper's density. Aluminium is capable of superconductivity, with a superconducting critical temperature of 1.2 kelvin and a critical magnetic field of about 100 gauss (10 milliteslas).[22] Aluminium is the most common material for the fabrication of superconducting qubits.[23]


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I want to refer people to the Newman Motor Finally Explained Thread. It has illustrations and information which I believe cross over to the ARV design.

Newman Motor Finally Explained?

This illustration is about so called "Cooper's Pairing" as created by Boris Volfson and explained in his patent, which I haven't found just yet, but it caused a big uproar back in 07 when established academic's attacked the patent and claimed that the patent office was being hoodwinked by false science. ...LOL....snort...

*notice how this works. I think it's a good clue as to how this was probably done in the ARV's central column. Like I said, I think I only have the ARV about half figured and the Newman Motor Thread brings in some explanations for the helium mystery. You may recall E.T. Power posting a video of Joe Newman talking about creating a helium balloon wound with copper wire and linked to a series of 9 volt batteries. An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

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my first thought is that it is going to be quite hard to put 50HP of mechanical energy into a box that is also suppose to contain liquid helium.
not so sure that device could work as shown, and if it can, then it will be out of the price range of almost anyone.

the idea should be testable at room temperature and pressure.
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my first thought is that it is going to be quite hard to put 50HP of mechanical energy into a box that is also suppose to contain liquid helium.
not so sure that device could work as shown, and if it can, then it will be out of the price range of almost anyone.

the idea should be testable at room temperature and pressure.
Posting this image can help us see shared properties with other ideas/designs & information. Really this is where I think it has value.

It's supposedly called a Phonon Maser. This site explains a bit and give the link to the archived pdf where the device is explained by Volfson.
https://www.science20.com/beachcombi...lopments-89013

Yttrium Barium Copper Oxide- YBCO is the crystal used in a so called MgB2 toroidal disk cooper pair generator and particle separator.


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" Volfson explains that “In a flat, cooled superconductor disk, the electrons are bound into Cooper pairs energized at a ground level. Released into a vacuum, the phonons (initially formed to pair the electrons into Cooper pairs) affect the crystal lattice of the vacuum causing gravitational effects.” Though the effects are small, says Volfson, they can be amplified by means of his Gravitophonon Maser, which can produce a “… collimated, coherent, and all-penetrating beam of bundles of superposed guest phonons.”"
https://www.science20.com/beachcombi...lopments-89013

See, for me the question is what is really going on here because I have to discard Einstein's idea's about the causation of gravity. Gravity is incoherent magnetism as explained by Wheeler.

According to convention, in Volfson's device the use of helium is for creating a super conductor, but we already know that helium is a superfluid as well: OK? It's not just cooling the so-called gravito-phonon disk and the explanation almost says as much by reference to some mysterious "guest phono's."

So it appears that the vacuum disk, when exposed to a superfluid, is conducting unknown energies referred to as so-called guest phono's, and which are detected via the subsequent change in weight of the the mass.



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Now Volfson called his creation a Phonon Maser that operated via a so called MgB2 toroidal disk cooper pair generator and particle separator.

Going back in our own thread to dielectric pathways; compare the Byron Brubaker's suggested improvements to the Joe Newman Glass Canister Dielectric Separator and then this to the Abductee's reports of the inside of UFO's of long clear tubes with winding and so on, and while remembering that counter-space is a dielectric energy field moving at millions of times the speed of light.

"Helium could become magnetic if a glass canister were to be filled with helium and the canister wrapped with an open path coil not connected to anything, nor to itself, resulting in a momentary voltage gradient appearing in the coil twice per revolution and each appearance possessing opposite orientation of polarity. This may induce one of each pair of helium electrons to flip its spin orientation "
https://josephnewman.info/blog/f/cap...magnetic-field

See how the Newman device shares great similarity to the reports given by abductee's of the gut's of a UFO.
https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/d7a...pg/:/rs=w:1280
https://josephnewman.info/blog/f/cap...magnetic-field

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Dealing with complex issues requires simplified outlines in order to later assemble the puzzle in to a complete picture. As a result a simplified explanation for gravity, but fundamentally correct explanation, is that gravity is simply incoherent magnetism; with every molecule having a magnetic field and being mutually attracted by other disorganized incoherent magnetic fields: In my opinion this is now conclusive. Einsteinian ideas about gravity are not completely void, but are not primary causation's: Again, my opinion.

The real question, because it's not just in materials which we can create magnets out of, but most all other matter has a magnetic field as well, is what produces magnetism and hence electrical energy in matter which isn't naturally magnetic: Which implies that something passes through matter which fundamentally powers it by creating magnetic fields/electrical fields.

This understanding (or point of view if you prefer) takes us back to the work of Henry Stevens concise explanation of the historical idea where gravity was induced by an outside force or pressure; what Steinmetz called counterspace, Tesla called radiant energy, and what today is called the quantum vacuum. Structure of the Schappeller Device
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf

Fundamentally speaking, I would think that helium inside a vacuum would be expected to produce a gateway to the counter-spacial field. The quantum field as we know it today, and the so-called guest phono's that are referred to in the Volfson version of reality.

The counter-spacial energy field is incoherent energy, which seems to be suspended in a vacuum, and in it exists a gas which can behave as a superfluid in liquid state. So now you have helium in a vacuum and we now know the little known fact that helium can become magnetic as well.

What I think is that the use of helium applied to a vacuum produces a kind of Solitron; which enables the creation of a link to counterspace's dielectric field. That field has no relative time or speed frame that we can relate to. This is where instantaneous action takes place as it does in the magnetic field. This infers that there is an unknown and probably unidentified transport mechanism involved if this conjecture is correct and it would mean that, if correct, superluminal transport is a given.

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The pressing issue is how to make this propulsion driver work since the obvious problem is that we need to have a magnetically reactive medium/gas, and preferably one that works at room temp. *There may be an alternative method but I haven't thought it through sufficiently just yet.

So, I'm soliciting ideas and information and urging you to keep this propulsion system in your thoughts.The brain is both lazy and a fantastic liar as well. Be alert to it's tricks. Demand it do something useful and it might. I don't want people to think I'm not interested in how they think this works. What I want, what we all need, are ideas about how this can work, but we can't be going off into a completely different system of operation unless that is where this propulsion system takes us. I think the proposed propulsion system is viable and probably the right real system used.

A propulsion system consisting of a closed cycle electromagneto drive (as outlined by Oleg D. Jefimenko and as demonstrated by Ken Wheeler) in which a Column/Tube contains a gas or fluid, and against which an electromagnet is driven in a cascading repeating cycle against a reactive medium, (*meaning a magnetically reactive medium), and which does itself (the gas) then cycle in a loop fashion, returning to the beginning via an interior tube/column, and so a tube in a tube which forms vertical looping pump.

*BTW, the is perfect description of the 1950's South African Ufonaut's statement that the propulsion system was very simple, stating that as the material which drove the Ufo was entering it was also leaving: This is the very description of a cycling pump.

The problem we are facing is what is the gas being used as the medium because logically it should be a gas that can react to a magnetic field. Any ideas, thoughts, tidbits of information, ect on this should be posted. I think we are now at a point where there is a viable explanation but are lacking some crucial bit of information on how to make this work simply because I am pretty sure this isn't half as complex as it first appears. All we have to do is to assemble a viable theoretical model and then build it. This is just like solving any other mystery. There's something here that is out there that will explain how this works logically and simply given what we now know.


For reference there is this Energetic Forums Thread which people might also find useful. * Recommend post #8 by Dr. Poppy.
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If we can succeed in this propulsion system then maybe we the people can solve all our problems here on Earth by transporting politicians to Mars instead. Naturally I assume there will be others whom might be considered as well. Lawyers for example, possibly criminals though I'm not too sure that wouldn't be unusual and cruel punishment lumping them in with the first two, and possibly some other undesirables may be considered as well, mostly trouble making billionaires, but I think that's about it. That should pretty much clear the trash out. Guess we will have to cross that road when we all get there.
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something to keep in mind about the ARV when trying t figure it out.
the passengers would likely be set in a zone that has regular gravity force or something near normal.
so there is likely a large field that keeps it floating and flying, and a smaller reverse field that keeps the passengers ok.
seems to me that it is likely that they set up the smaller field in the central core, and did it in a way that also makes the power to run the entire system.
and I mainly say this because of the comment that they could build them large or small, but could not change any of the overall design or it would not work.
so, likely it is similar to the smart car, I doubt that any single component does just one job, it is not there unless it does a few things at the same time.
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I've been ignoring the Alexey Chekurkov Thread and just noticed Ufopolitics had posted a link to this video. This is a highly technical analysis. It appears that the author Mantim Lee thinks this is a real working machine which is supported by the physics involved. This is a repulsion machine if I understand the analysis correctly. So it's looking like flying carpet's may be in our future, or at least the futures of people younger than myself: Which sounds about right.


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I've been ignoring the Alexey Chekurkov Thread and just noticed Ufopolitics had posted a link to this video. This is a highly technical analysis. It appears that the author Mantim Lee thinks this is a real working machine which is supported by the physics involved. This is a repulsion machine if I understand the analysis correctly. So it's looking like flying carpet's may be in our future, or at least the futures of people younger than myself: Which sounds about right.


very detailed and is so long...
that is going to take me days to finish
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that is going to take me days to finish
Well I've been through the video once. Feel free to correct my ignorance, but the gist seems to describe it as being somewhat like the electrostatic forces which are involved in tornado's; with a core product of a negative ion vortex surrounded by a positively charged outer and upwards spiraling vortex. The evident difference being that the primary plate becomes a negatively charged superconductor, aluminum being superconductive capable, and producing a repulsion type of drive. That fits the Wheeler model of there being only two forms of antigravity; one being repulsive, and the other being a kind of false mass. At any rate, I don't think it's possible to actually understand why this happens without having this understanding of counter-space and magnetism as one and the same, whereas the Volfson contraption is perhaps accomplishing the same thing, sort of, but by a vastly more complex system.

So I think it's helpful because he seems to have defined the type of vehicle it would be, which had me bamboozled, and so I appreciated the insight given. This may be useful too in looking at the ARV itself and that center disk. The puzzle is now seeming to have pieces which at least look like they might fit together even if we still don't have them properly fitted together.

However, I'm mostly interested right now in a propulsion tube and here again I refer people to this thread.
How can you make a Magnetic Gas?

Specifically to this post by Dr. Poppy.
http://www.energeticforum.com/134800-post8.html

The Answers are right here;
"Oxygen is a magnetic atom (polarized) and is just like a magnet. O1 being magnetic bonds to another O1 atom to form O2. This unfortunately is like connecting two bar magnets which completes the magnetic path and the magnetic field is confined and weaker outside that path.

An electrostatic discharge under the right conditions will cleave the atoms apart momentarily and produce a magnetic field. A laser can also be used. It is important to place the gas under a vacuum which produces acceleration and multipacitor effect which is electron cascade."


OK, so what do you do when you don't have "LASERS" ....oh, let's see....humm....maybe you would make a cascading electromagnetic solenoid? We have to keep in mind that the ARV is a very primitive machine. One which in theory we should be able to make in a garage with tools from Harbor Freight. Seriously, I mean that, and BTW I love Harbor Freight. I got to think about this a little more but off hand we need a vacuum tube, with another inner tube, so that the inner tube cycles the material, going in one end out the other, flowing around the outside of the inner tube. This is virtually a precise description of the drive given to the poor unsuspecting Britisher in South Africa in 1950. I wish I knew if this Ufonaut had a German accent because I swear to God the dialogue sounds like it came out of the mouth of von Braun.
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By now those who have followed this thread should have firm idea's about the way this machine works.
What I think is happening in this design is now provided in a simplified operational outline.

The ARV appears to use a central column which uses an electron cascade effect to separate positive from negative charges via a solenoid driver which appears as concentric rings around the tube. This evidently has two purposes. One, it creates a thrust or weight displacement by the same means demonstrated in the copper tube magnet experiment, resulting in a propulsive force when opposed by a magnetically reactive fluid or gas, and which, following the right hand rule, is electromagnetically vectored such as to counter gravity. (*Think I have that right)

A suitable conductive agent, previously mentioned as helium but probably something else, when driven by the solenoids creates a partitioned ion, and whose charges are evidently picked up by two counter rotating interior helix coils, somewhat replicating the magnetic, with the negative charges applied to the electro-optically reactive piezoelectric quartz capacitors, which holding a controllable charge are then repelled from the earth, and with the positive charges potentially applied to the outer hull.

Evidently a large electromagnet is located around the outside about half way up and forming the deck where the crew compartment door is located, and this electromagnet might be operated in a rotational solenoid fashion, thereby inducing a rotation effect upon the magnetic field discharges which presumably exist outside the vehicle, and which are cycling as a magnetic field and being taken back up in side the vehicle via an accretion disk, shown in the McCandlish Illustration as the crew deck flooring and possibly made from aluminum, and this accretion disk then cycles exterior magnetic back to the inner core of the magnetic field: Where Counter-Space which gives rise to the magnetic field should be.

This is my best guess so far as to how this machine operates. This speculation is based on all the information compiled so far. In the future I may be posting some illustrations and other material to help illustrate these thoughts more clearly. The basics of how this machine operates are now fairly clear in my opinion. However, a million times I've thought I've understood only be made an absolute total fool, which is why Universe and I have an adversarial relationship, as it insists it is my superior and which I refuse to accept because it's my job as a human being to refuse to acknowledge the manifest truth. Now it is true that there are areas which are unclear but over all I think this outline does fill in some of the fundamental operational concepts which underlie this design: We shall see who ends up wearing the Dunce Cap is what I say.

One of the next key parts to understanding this machine is probably discovering what it is using in the central column; water, liquid air, liquid helium, other?
Refer to the work of Henry Stevens; "Hitlers Flying Saucers" because I'm leaning towards water as the quote; "ionic fuel" source here.
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"A point of speculation should be made concerning the KM-2 device.
As stated above, T. T. Brown believed that water vapor or steam
was a suitable medium for his electrokenetic generator.
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1950 South Africa Ufonaut begs for water?
Ufo's predilection for clouds and apparent love of water as well.
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An Electrokinetic Generator is what we today more commonly call an MHD Generator. So ya know I simply highlighted "Electrokintic Generator" and did a search. Here's the same patent shown in the Henry Steven's book; "Hitlers Flying Saucers."

T. Townsend Brown. 1957 Electrokinetic Generator.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3022430A/en

A small sampling from the Townsend Patent;

Priorly, the thermal energy of burning fuel has been first converted into mechanical energy of motion which in turn was used to generate electrical energy, the wellknown boiler-steam-turbine electrical generator arrangement being a familiar example. However, in accordance with this invention the energy of a burning fuel is directly converted into electrical energy. In accordance with other aspects of this invention, the kinetic energy of a stream of dielectric fluid such as carbon dioxide may be converted directly into electrical energy. Further, the principles of this invention may be applied to apparatus for the generation of very high voltages by a series of conversion devices. Still further, the electrical energy so generated may be employed as a motive force to propel the generator relative to the surrounding medium.

It is a further object of this invention to provide a method and apparatus wherein a fluid stream is utilized to transport electrical charges from one electrode to another.

Encyclopedia Britannica has some good images and overview information on MHD's.
https://www.britannica.com/technolog...ower-generator

https://www.britannica.com/technolog...a/357424/92957
Observe Disk Generator D. in this image link.
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FYI that the thread isn't dead. Bugsfly, Spacecase0, and others have been covering ideas about what we think might be happening in the Alexey and the ARV. So to fill in a little bit;

It does appear, though we cannot be 100% sure, that the Alexey is a repulsion type of machine. However, based on the calculations of Lee the machine isn't displaying the calculated thrust to weight ratio which Lee figured at over 8,000 lbs. A phenomenal figure which would shoot the Alexey in to space very quickly. There can be no doubt that Lee's calculations are accurate so answers must lie elsewhere.

Therefore the issue arises as to where is this thrust if it's not being displayed? Here then are some ideas we have been tossing around. Really answers will probably have to come from testing and inventing ways to test these ideas for validity.

We think that one possible explanation for this lack of thrust may have to do with the creation of counter space at the core of the Aluminum plate, and which is spread across/through the plate, and which then may produce a barrier to the Earths' Magnetic Field. Evidently most of the energy Lee's calculations put forward must then be engaged in the creation of a barrier to the Earth's Magnetic Field.

I think that a high voltage high frequency charge applied by the Tesla Coil to the Aluminum Plate is likely the starter for this vortex opening to counter space. Bugsfly doesn't think its necessary or may not even be doing anything useful, and that this could all be the result of mechanical interactions, and he might be right about that too.

Theory is that the magnets, whose bloch walls lie in the same plane as the aluminum plate but below the plate form a virtual enlarged magnetic field by their rotation and by acting on a created counter-space, and it is the core bloch walls of the spinning magnets which pull outwards upon counter space once it's created at the core of the aluminum plate, which is where it should come from, and where we hypothesize a worm hole to counter space can be opened, and that the rotation of the magnets bloch walls is what pulls outwards towards the periphery of the plate. This idea may be one which should be applied by Geek's in Sonoluminescence experiments. For example these kids;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdccm-AVEMc

Now we aren't sure that in fact a HF HV Charge must be used. It maybe possible do this all mechanically as theorized by Bugsfly. This goes back to his grinding action mill stone theory. Something to consider since phenomena in nature may validate this theory.

The inspiration for this idea comes by watching this video of the supposed TR3# captured over Paris France about 7 or 8 years ago. It's the leaving Paris France part that counts. Notice how this resembles a "Star in Jar" the way it manifests, and notice that the core light is expanded and then pulled in to a complete sphere engulfing the machine by the three outer lighted sphere's. This is very good video and you can clearly see there are two fins on the top of the vehicle. This is not an alien space ship. It's clearly entering counter space in my opinion.

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Let's look at some some key facts which have come out of all this starting with the late great Joe Parr and his research. One is that a pyramid shape ( which is made up of triangular tetrahedrons and a square) put in an alternating magnetic field creates an energy bubble. Secondly, we also know that pyramids either emit an energy or else pull in energies; but of course they are doing both. Thirdly, we can see that there is cross correlation between shape energy research pioneered by Joe Parr and the organization of crystalline shapes in matter. Fourthly, we can see that these shapes are cross correlated to specific creations of life on earth such as the hexagonal tubes found in bee hives. Fifthly, thanks to the work of Joe Parr we know that the pyramid shape, the tetrahedron and square put in the shape of a pyramid, and then placed in an alternating magnetic field has a specific and powerful outcome. Finally, in some alloys of metal there are perfect inverted combinations of these shapes.

Metals crystal structure [SubsTech]


Listen specifically to this Ancient Aliens out take at the section between 1:40 and 3:00 minutes. *Personally I don't believe in string theory and multiple dimensions but I do believe in hyperspace/Counter-Space and so my point is to beware of the Snow Job that is naturally embedded in the otherwise fascinating Ancient Aliens Series.



Kirlian-photography-pyramid: If a pyramid is, in fact, pulling in energy then what kind of energy would you think that might be if the net result could end up levitating the pyramid?
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Now then, I don't know that my hypothesis about this is correct but at least I think it is one which is logically deduced from the known facts.

I think that if you take this man's genius
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Combine it with this man's artistic skill
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Combine the two and what you end up with is the ARV.

I have thought to have deduced the operation of the ARV many, many, many times, only to discover that at each turn these solutions morphed in to something else. All of which makes me hesitate to say that the solution has been found, but when you look at the facts, however unlikely they may seem, the end result says that this solution is probably the closest so far.

It seems to me that the obvious answer to how the ARV operates is directly cross correlated to what Joe Parr discovered. The so-called capacitor plates are pie shaped and triangular, they point inwards, the material used is quartz, and plated over with a conductor, such that an alternating eletro-magnetic field could be produced above and below the imbedded quartz, or other suitable alloy.

The apparent key to this mystery is that the crystalline patterns of specific material are reacting to the input of an alternating magnetic field.

Considering all the data that's out there, much of which has been covered in this thread, and reaching across time from Operation Paper Clip and the recovery of the Nazi Scientists, the mysterious vanishing of General Klammer, the photograph of the swastika emblazoned UFO shaped sign hanging over the prisoner hut in the wastelands of New Mexico with what would become the Huntsville Rocket team, and symbolically flanked on either side by Oxen Harness, first the Nazi's then the American's, can we really delude ourselves in to believing that all these vehicles are coming from other worlds? What's more logical, that Aliens are coming here, or the known facts?

What began as another NWO/Deep State Elitist Billionaire stay rich project to completely enslave humanity, like the last global war was, has now undoubtedly found that both it and we are not alone in the Universe and that, today, we truly are being visited, but as of yet we have absolutely nothing which is as remotely as convincing as the evidence which nearly proves that the latest enterprise to enslave humanity was, like all the others, a human creation and so any reasonable person should conclude that these so called UFO's are manufactured vehicles whose existence has been keep secret and whose science has been denied, marginalized, and denigrated.

There were never any Nazi's hiding in Antarctica, not unless you consider the CEO's and multibillionaire owners of the deep state to be Nazi's, and so what Admiral Byrd encountered was in fact something else, something which hadn't yet been set off limits, but made so afterwards as an internationally agreed too (by them) as a giant nature preserve, and later this off limits model was employed to create the so-called Rouge Nation States. These were and still are giant black holes. Places where the darkest secrets could be kept under lock and key. Places where the rulers managing pedophiles could safely conduct their business: There's more to the Wizard of Oz than a little girl wisked away in a cyclone than meets first glance. So this is something under our noses, something that's been going on since forever, and pretending that Aliens are running about is an attractive side show that's kept the minds of people ensnared and prolonged the reveal of truth.



Lights photographed in 1952 over a Coast Guard air station in Salem, Mass., part of the Blue Book archive.CreditShell R. Alpert/U.S. Coast Guard
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something to keep in mind about the ARV when trying t figure it out.
the passengers would likely be set in a zone that has regular gravity force or something near normal.
so there is likely a large field that keeps it floating and flying, and a smaller reverse field that keeps the passengers ok.
seems to me that it is likely that they set up the smaller field in the central core, and did it in a way that also makes the power to run the entire system.
and I mainly say this because of the comment that they could build them large or small, but could not change any of the overall design or it would not work.
so, likely it is similar to the smart car, I doubt that any single component does just one job, it is not there unless it does a few things at the same time.
I've been thinking about this and maybe it is that rather than creating quote "gravity," what you get is instead the opposite and there is no gravity at all, which if you took the ARV drawing on faith would explain seat belts. If this is going into hyperspace or suspended in a bubble of hyperspace then it's the opposite of here, which should mean then that there is no weight, no gravity. Another thing that's always haunting is the statement that the area near the ARV was cool, and of course space is cool, and counter space supposedly the quote "Quantum Energy Field" so that should cooler still. Like really, really cool.
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* Note: Continued discussion on Anti-Gravity on Vidbid's Thread. Go there for more on the Alexey Contraption and real antigravity technology.
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Until further verification by physical means the following is my final conclusion beginning with the fundamental idea behind the ARV and the Alexey Device as explained by Ken Wheeler and Henry Stevens. Stevens because he concisely explains the fundamental ideas about the Universe applying a pressure to surrounding space, and Wheeler because he explains what that pressure really is as a dielectric energy field which ultimately is the causation of not only magnetism, but of gravity as we understand it.

The physical evidence supporting how gravity really works was suppressed, ignored, and ridiculed, and thanks to the criminal accomplices in the colleges and universities, the mass media, and corporate military contractors, the true and somewhat simple idea behind what causes gravity was never made public.

The dielectric field is what creates gravity in the form of magnetic fields in matter. It is the inwards accretion of counterspace which is a dielectric energy field that spins counter space into a coherent dielectric line of force which we see as a magnetic line of force. The dielectric field is ultimately horizontal to the surface of a planet as the magnetic planes are perpendicular to the surface. This is why I and others have had confusion over whether these are repulsion machines or if they are false mass drives. That confusion has been created by imagining that there are repelling electrons being ejected towards the earth in the form of negative charged particles, when in reality it is the re-orienting of the gravitational dielectric induction field which is taking place. Otherwise Mantim Lee's analysis would have to be correct, and with that kind of power to weight ratio the Alexey would have been on Mar's in 30 minutes or less. Therefore some other explanation has to exist, and so it does.


There are two magnetic planes in the ARV which also have two dielectric planes that work to change the direction /orientation of the dielectric fields induced weight. Weight is a quality of directional inertial force created when the surrounding dielectric counter spatial field acts upon matter producing an inwards accretion plane, and the greater or more energetic this accretion plane is, then the greater a given mass will weigh; previously and mistakenly called gravity, the creation of weight is hinged upon this understanding and is modifiable through other means. A magnet proves this is correct and the inertial accretion plane is visible with a ferocell. It is also testable while gravity seems to be entirely theoretical and mathematically based conjecture.

The bottom plates in the ARV have a dielectric conductor in the form of quartz, which is also is a piezoelectric material, and so the idea here is that using this material allows for the electrification of the dielectric field and the lines of force which are produced. I assume this is needed because it adds propulsive power as force applied in the same way that an electric current may exert a force. Electrification enhances and simplifies control and manipulation via a secondary magnetic field which in the ARV is the smaller electromagnet that surrounds the upper crew compartment.

One magnetic plane along with it's own dielectric inertial force is acted upon by a second magnetic plane with it's own dielectric inertial force, which when applied correctly alters the direction of the mass inertial force. In other words, it changes the direction of gravity to put it simply, although really the less you revert to using that outdated idea the better off you will be.

I think you can see this in both the Alexey and the ARV designs. When you look at the Alexey it is nearly an inverted ARV with the dielectric inertial plane overhead instead of underneath as in the ARV. You should question the odds of this happening by accidental design.
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here is an idea,
let us say that you get a gravity field generator working,
how do you power it ?
you need to extract power out somewhere to run the thing.
and all of what we see so far of the fluxliner and other tests with spinning magnetic disks don't show any clear way to extract energy.
I was wondering this when I remembered the fluid spotted in the central core of the ships told about from abduction stories.
so, if I were trying to get power from something that had an unequal gravity field, I might set up tubes in a loop with some heavy liquid and use its motion to turn a generator (some sort of water wheel type setup), and the heavier the liquid, the better it would work, so mercury would be ideal.
I think this idea fits pretty well with the entire design and what little we have been told from ones who saw it all working.
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here is an idea,
let us say that you get a gravity field generator working,
how do you power it ?
you need to extract power out somewhere to run the thing.
and all of what we see so far of the fluxliner and other tests with spinning magnetic disks don't show any clear way to extract energy.
I was wondering this when I remembered the fluid spotted in the central core of the ships told about from abduction stories.
so, if I were trying to get power from something that had an unequal gravity field, I might set up tubes in a loop with some heavy liquid and use its motion to turn a generator (some sort of water wheel type setup), and the heavier the liquid, the better it would work, so mercury would be ideal.
I think this idea fits pretty well with the entire design and what little we have been told from ones who saw it all working.
I think you've unraveled the power system of the ARV with that idea. Makes a good deal of sense to me because it also fits Wheeler's explanation of electricity as longitudinal dynamic polarization; like a line from a magnet pulled outwards it would then form a curled line.


"Electricity is Ether in a state of dynamic polarization; magnetism is Ether in a state of dynamic circular polarization upon itself, is the radiative termination of electrical discharge; dielectricity is the Ether under stress or strain. The motions and strains of the Ether give rise to electrification. Phi times Psi gives Q; ‘electrons’ do not mediate these electrical and magnetic forces or their likewise the Ether fields. There are no electrons, negative charges, special-dimensions, warped space (resoundingly denied by Tesla and others), and no photons; only charge, induction and radiation/discharges and their relational spins, all as mediated through the Ether."
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