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seems to me that we are in the middle of terminology hell
I have tried to clear up the meanings of the words, but Wheeler refused to answer me as far as definitions...
(in my opinion, a book without defining special terms is written in code, one that may never be decoded)
so we are left with his references to tesla and others in that thought line.
if that is true, then counterspace is a field format that would otherwise be a particle of some sort, but the fields are not strong enough to actually manifest in this reality.

a void in the aether would be something else entirely
Yea, well it going to take time to get this assimilated and right now we have active aggressive counter measures trying to keep people in the dark. It's like Tesla, we all know Tesla but google likes to pretend that it's either Elon Musk or a car, so that's the kind of communist corporatism that we are living with right now. Pray for the day they face a firing squad for crimes against humanity is all I can say.

Anyways there's no hole in the Aether, it's more like connecting to the Aether by artificially tearing/peeling away the electro-magnetic forces which perturb the Aether. At least that's the way I'm seeing this right now.
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Pray for the day they face a firing squad for crimes against humanity is all I can say.
the last thing the control grid wants to do is to put me on the other side while annoyed with them.
would think it is about the same way the other way around.
just for a moment, really think about what is possible.
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Where did you see a hole in Aether in the first place?
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Where did you see a hole in Aether in the first place?
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or a void/bubble creating ΔP super-fluid

Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics, endowed chair in physics, Stanford University, had this to say about ether in contemporary theoretical physics:
"…studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo."

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If there was a "hole/void" in the super-fluid/aether,
you would not be "flying" approximately 600 miles per second.

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The establishment always maximizes it's successes and minimize it's failures.

Quantum electrodynamics is a dubious proposition because spectral evidence is not science. One could more convincingly argue that an invisible hyper-velocity energy field is responsible for seemingly mystical physical alterations in our own energy field: The aether is ΔP super-fluid, but to recognize that means there's no such thing as virtual quantum anything, and rather that the truth is the existence of an unrecognized, unexplored, and officially denied energy field.

The Alexey device must be connecting with the superfluidity of counter-space, or else it has to be creating a so-called false mass, or creating a magnetic field capable of repelling itself from the Earths' gravitational field which would seem to indicate a possible creation of room temp super conduction, but it seems to me that it has to be one of the three or a combination thereof. It's this possible connection with counter-space that makes me think of holes, but the hole isn't in counter-space, rather the hole is a hole connecting to counter-space and superfluidity of that energy field. So the Nobel Laureate has stated it in reverse and which frankly is exactly what I've come to expect out of the officially approved educators.
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See, if gravity is really just incoherent magnetism, then all you need to counter that is another incoherent field, either surrounding yourself or at least very near to you, which in the later case could be called a false mass, and so long as you were close enough then your body or machine would be attracted to that false mass which is, in reality, an incoherent field the same as which magnetism is formed out of. Now as long as you understand that concept, then the idea of developing another incoherent energy field out of a magnetic field seems possible, and a magnetic field is a coherent field of counter-space, and so then anti-gravity becomes somewhat simple to understand in principle.

To achieve this goal you would probably first create a strong magnetic field, and afterwards you would then pass the magnetic field back through something which scattered it into incoherence, after all, a magnetic field is nothing more than a coherent mass of counter-space.

Now I've re-thunk how the ARV process works as a result of these musing, and I think I misunderstood what the Aluminum plate was designed to do, and which isn't to assist the bloch wall as an accretion disk, but rather to impede the magnetic field from being taken back in along that plane. So it's the opposite from what one might think. The whole idea is to cycle the magnetic field without having a central accretion disk, with a magnetic field going out the bottom where it's scattered back to in-coherence, and then the incoherent field is carried back over to envelope the machine in an incoherent mass of counter-space, whereupon this incoherent field is once more taken back in on the top and cycled to create a bubble or altered medium in which the machine itself resides.

Remember, the whole raison d'ętre behind a magnet is to make coherent counter-space, so that a magnetic field exists, and yet to create an artificial mass, or to alter the local medium you want to create an artificial incoherent field. Somewhat counter intuitively you want to create a powerful magnetic field only to re-purpose it by breaking it back down in to incoherence. Now naturally you want that field to be like a kind of frozen counter-space, or a bubble of counter-space cycling round the machine: How to do that?

Well I think there's a way to accomplish that by using a powerful magnet in the center column, and the magnetic field is sent out the bottom and passing through these quartz barriers, and which scatter the magnetic field into incoherence. Then the area where the so-called bloch wall would be has this aluminum disk so that the accretion plane of the magnetic field is interfered with because we know that aluminum/copper repel a moving magnetic field. This would tend to prevent any uptake of the now incoherent magnetic field along the bloch wall, and thereby the incoherent field would tend to flow up around the vehicle to be taken back in once more in the top of the center column.

Hope that makes sense to you. This idea is then a precise description of what the South African Ufonauts seeking water described about how their UFO worked: " as soon as it's leaving it's entering."
Story is on page 14 of the ARV thread.
An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

I think the idea is fundamentally simple: A powerful magnet is needed to create a disorganized bubble of counter-space because that's all a magnetic field is created out of anyways. Then that bubble has to be retained and not allowed to just immediately move away, and so it's possible that you want to attach a charge, probably DC to the field so that it flows to the poles of the magnet. Understand?

See in the Alexey Device we don't have a central magnet but we do have this AC incoherent energy field that's being pulsed, and which is awkwardly flowing since it really wants to move to the center because of the Z-pinch effect of HV charges, so it's forced to move in the opposite direction outwards because the magnets are the engines which organize incoherent energy so that's where the energy from the AC plate has to move to. All those spinning magnets are each creating a moving little disorganized bubble of counter space spinning round and round. So it's may not be the best design but it is a workable design.

The whole trick is to first create a powerful magnetic field, then to break it back down into counter-space once more so that you have a cloud of counter-space, and finally to keep that cloud attached to your machine.
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I think it could only exist if Einstein is right and that space can be warped, but what if instead of warped space the truth was that the speed of counter-space is instantaneous? Spooky action at a distance, or just the speed of counter-space? So the Gate might be real, but the warped space isn't, it's just a porthole to instantaneous speed. The warped space idea is probably just another movie prop created to lend support Einsteinian Physics and to keep us all bamboozled; that's what I think.

PS: They tell us things and so what is that Star Gate depicted as being on the inside? It's a fluid isn't it? Can it all be so accidental?
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I think it could only exist if Einstein is right and that space can be warped, but what if instead of warped space the truth was that the speed of counter-space is instantaneous? Spooky action at a distance, or just the speed of counter-space? So the Gate might be real, but the warped space isn't, it's just a porthole to instantaneous speed. The warped space idea is probably just another movie prop created to lend support Einsteinian Physics and to keep us all bamboozled; that's what I think.

PS: They tell us things and so what is that Star Gate depicted as being on the inside? It's a fluid isn't it? Can it all be so accidental?
"Super-fluid cavitation hammer", "Rede October - sub" or ΔP are AV propulsion modes in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:L...not-small).png

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See, if gravity is really just incoherent magnetism, then all you need to counter that is another incoherent field, either surrounding yourself or at least very near to you, which in the later case could be called a false mass, and so long as you were close enough then your body or machine would be attracted to that false mass which is, in reality, an incoherent field the same as which magnetism is formed out of. Now as long as you understand that concept, then the idea of developing another incoherent energy field out of a magnetic field seems possible, and a magnetic field is a coherent field of counter-space, and so then anti-gravity becomes somewhat simple to understand in principle.

To achieve this goal you would probably first create a strong magnetic field, and afterwards you would then pass the magnetic field back through something which scattered it into incoherence, after all, a magnetic field is nothing more than a coherent mass of counter-space.

Now I've re-thunk how the ARV process works as a result of these musing, and I think I misunderstood what the Aluminum plate was designed to do, and which isn't to assist the bloch wall as an accretion disk, but rather to impede the magnetic field from being taken back in along that plane. So it's the opposite from what one might think. The whole idea is to cycle the magnetic field without having a central accretion disk, with a magnetic field going out the bottom where it's scattered back to in-coherence, and then the incoherent field is carried back over to envelope the machine in an incoherent mass of counter-space, whereupon this incoherent field is once more taken back in on the top and cycled to create a bubble or altered medium in which the machine itself resides.

Remember, the whole raison d'ętre behind a magnet is to make coherent counter-space, so that a magnetic field exists, and yet to create an artificial mass, or to alter the local medium you want to create an artificial incoherent field. Somewhat counter intuitively you want to create a powerful magnetic field only to re-purpose it by breaking it back down in to incoherence. Now naturally you want that field to be like a kind of frozen counter-space, or a bubble of counter-space cycling round the machine: How to do that?

Well I think there's a way to accomplish that by using a powerful magnet in the center column, and the magnetic field is sent out the bottom and passing through these quartz barriers, and which scatter the magnetic field into incoherence. Then the area where the so-called bloch wall would be has this aluminum disk so that the accretion plane of the magnetic field is interfered with because we know that aluminum/copper repel a moving magnetic field. This would tend to prevent any uptake of the now incoherent magnetic field along the bloch wall, and thereby the incoherent field would tend to flow up around the vehicle to be taken back in once more in the top of the center column.

Hope that makes sense to you. This idea is then a precise description of what the South African Ufonauts seeking water described about how their UFO worked: " as soon as it's leaving it's entering."
Story is on page 14 of the ARV thread.
An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

I think the idea is fundamentally simple: A powerful magnet is needed to create a disorganized bubble of counter-space because that's all a magnetic field is created out of anyways. Then that bubble has to be retained and not allowed to just immediately move away, and so it's possible that you want to attach a charge, probably DC to the field so that it flows to the poles of the magnet. Understand?

See in the Alexey Device we don't have a central magnet but we do have this AC incoherent energy field that's being pulsed, and which is awkwardly flowing since it really wants to move to the center because of the Z-pinch effect of HV charges, so it's forced to move in the opposite direction outwards because the magnets are the engines which organize incoherent energy so that's where the energy from the AC plate has to move to. All those spinning magnets are each creating a moving little disorganized bubble of counter space spinning round and round. So it's may not be the best design but it is a workable design.

The whole trick is to first create a powerful magnetic field, then to break it back down into counter-space once more so that you have a cloud of counter-space, and finally to keep that cloud attached to your machine.
You need a MONOPOLE.

All of his magnets are 6 here and 6 or 7 here. Not enough to create a magnetic monopole field.
Nor Magnetic bubble - an area of concentrated fields with 2 opposing magnets NORTH-NORTH usually.
For this the set of magnets must be complete3 and without any breaks and 2 sets must be facing each other with identical poles.
Then you excite this area and add High-Voltage.

We are already on page 30 of this debate and keep coming back and back AND BACK TO Nearly same conclusion
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You need a MONOPOLE.

All of his magnets are 6 here and 6 or 7 here. Not enough to create a magnetic monopole field.
Nor Magnetic bubble - an area of concentrated fields with 2 opposing magnets NORTH-NORTH usually.
For this the set of magnets must be complete3 and without any breaks and 2 sets must be facing each other with identical poles.
Then you excite this area and add High-Voltage.

We are already on page 30 of this debate and keep coming back and back AND BACK TO Nearly same conclusion
You're going to have explain your thinking better and a sketch would be more useful for clarity in order to follow your thinking.

The way I now think the ARV operates could be seen as having a monopole: I've previously brought monopoles up in the thread. Now it's not really a monopole so much as it is a magnetic field without an accretion plane/bloch wall. In my last post I described a way in which I think it's possible to create as similar kind of monopole and which doesn't involve hypothetical theories as found at this link where it's described as a magnetic worm hole.
https://phys.org/news/2015-08-trio-a...-wormhole.html

My idea is based on the information which has been shown to occur when a moving magnetic field passes across/over/around certain metals as demonstrated in the experiments preformed by David Lowrance.
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The key here is recognizing the so-called bloch wall as an accretion disk where energy and some parts of the magnetic field are re-absorbed back in to counter-space.

The way around this is to present the magnetic field with a material that repels it, which aluminum or copper will do, and in order to accomplish this it appears that in the ARV the center ring which creates the deck where the crew compartment door is located is a solenoid which drives a magnetic field around an aluminum disk, thereby creating a repulsive field at the plane of accretion. The center column being a powerful magnet such as a liquid cooled bitter solenoid. In this arrangement the whole is create force which prevents the re-assimilation of energy along the plane of the bloch wall and thereby forces the magnetic field to flow smoothly from the base up over and around the whole of the machine.

In my present theory of operation this arrangement projects a magnetic field out the base where these so-called capacitors are located, each of which is pie shaped, and each of which is made up from a quartz that acts to diffuse the magnetic and electrical fields back to a counter-spacial cloud of energy, which is continually cycled, moving from the base up and over the vehicle to the top where it is re-assimilated back into the core magnet and re-condensed back once more and then the whole cycle is repeated. This would be happening essentially instantly as the speed of Counter-Space is essentially instantaneous for all practical purposes.

Now understanding the Alexey is of course even more complex since the whole of it's successful operation is more accidental than by design, which is something I really hate say because obviously we owe a great deal to the designer for his labor. If my understanding is correct for the ARV then it would seem that the Alexey should have it's magnets rotating around the rim of the Aluminum disk, or possible might themselves be made to individually spin in holes in the aluminum plate which is what appears to be the case in these images.




In this arrangement it would seem that the AC is propelled in the correct polarity via a DC field that is held and cycled via the magnets fields, and since the nature of the aluminum is to repel a moving magnetic field then the AC field in the plate is held away from the magnets accretion plane, althewhile the DC field is being carried it through the aluminum plate via the magnetic field, whereupon the AC field will be taken up in whatever polar direction the DC field is moving, which is of course going to be flowing to the positive pole upwards, and so you have a sort of magnetic monopole.

Now obviously if I've gotten this figured right then there's a long term problem because all the AC isn't be used. Only the AC positive is being used and so there's a build up of a negative polar field in the aluminum plate. This might explain why the Alexey Device runs out of juice after a while because eventually there's just no more room for any positive movement in the plate and therefore the propulsive force of the positive field ceases to exist.
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You over complicate it.
This Alexey's device is getting more and more complicated with every page of those threads. Soon at this rate it would become so complex no one would touch it with a barge pole.

Alexey's device have minuses. One of the biggest is Alexey's incommunicado status.
I haven't posted an alternative as I do not have the ability to produce it right now

It is very cold here in UK and I need to work outside a lot
Metal casting cannot be done in the kitchen.
Nor filing and machining.


I say what I say as I have a base for saying that.
I have seen other alternatives

I also do not want to be anyone's disappointment. We already had plenty else I don't want to contribute to it.
If you so wish I will try to get drawings made.
But due to my state of personal health I have certain limitations.
I do not wish to discuss those publically I am sorry

I will try to get a friend to make me detailed drawings and schematic and I post it in separate thread
It might be a bit of time to get through with it
I cannot give you a guarantee that this path would work - I cannot be 100% sure till I build it and that cannot happen sooner then spring

But if you wish to have a look at it and discuss it - fair enough.
If I can get afriend to re-draw them properly and in understandable format yes I can post them for the discussion purpose.

That it all.

P.S. I know about this copper cylinder thing. It has been online for years and years. Ever since David Lorance been with That scammer kosol otch and his useless crystal device
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Gambeir,
when you say that gravity is an incoherent magnetic field,
there are a few ways that could happen,
could you be talking about the format that this device in this PDF makes ?
www.mauricecotterell.com/downloads/hgwp9-27.pdf
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I just stumbled across this. Anyone here seen this before? https://etheric.com/flux-liner-elect...pulsion-system
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This brings up an alternate method for steering the vehicle. If each pair of capacitor plate sectors were connected through a dedicated coil, with 12 coils being used for the 24 capacitor sectors, then these sectors could be separately excited by 12 oscillators. Selecting a frequency that was tuned closer to the resonant frequency of a certain plate sector tank circuit would preferentially boost the power to that set of plates, thereby increasing their thrust compared to other tank circuit plate sections. Thus steering could be accomplished simply with the use of 12 low frequency audio oscillators whose frequency was slightly varied relative to the tank circuit resonant frequency. The same method could be used to increase the vehicle’s upward thrust. As the capacitor banks are excited close to their resonant frequencies, they will achieve higher voltages and hence greater electrogravitic thrust.


Yes I seen this all before.
This steering methods is what I want to discuss in separate post when I get my separate post on alternative to Alexey's device

I must state again what I will put in that post was not tested by me personally yet and cannot be test till spring

I hope I covered everything here.
FYI: High-Voltage source on board doesn't have to be a battery or even worse a petrol generator.

A homo polar generator that is self-powered from it's own source of high-voltage.
ANY source of high-voltage - as we need high voltage low amperage output.
A Tank circuit to increase/amplify initial voltage

1. A device to create specific frequency if such needed
Such device can be powered by a brush less motor that would run on the lowered output of ourr homopolar generator

2. A static motor that I have seen some where on this forum that as it was told can run on static or basically on nothing at all

3. A homopolar motor that would run on the out from the homopolar generator directly


Now-vector control.

If we need to go vertically we simply increasse or decrease power to our elements that is lifting the craft.

Or if it is a different system I will discuss later - we accelerate and decelerate certin elemenys in the craft

When we need to go horizontally we get it by one or several odf the following:

1. We TILT an area or/and device withing our craft to change the flow og gravity or/and magnetism and then as this flow is changed our craft moves into opposite direction of the TILT or into same direction as the TILT

2. We power on a set of coils as in the selected text above - to again - change the flow of the over all field or to create a wave of trust towards a direction to move horizontally

To move to those vectors at once we tilt/charge at the same time

Now - here is a minimal size of the model to accommodate all those features. This size I believe to be at last 60-70cm in diameter

I don't have the room to test something that big - my neighbors would go nuts. And then complain to my housing association that i am misusing garden space. I could loose my home as a result.
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You're going to have explain your thinking better and a sketch would be more useful for clarity in order to follow your thinking.

The way I now think the ARV operates could be seen as having a monopole: I've previously brought monopoles up in the thread. Now it's not really a monopole so much as it is a magnetic field without an accretion plane/bloch wall. In my last post I described a way in which I think it's possible to create as similar kind of monopole and which doesn't involve hypothetical theories as found at this link where it's described as a magnetic worm hole.
https://phys.org/news/2015-08-trio-a...-wormhole.html

My idea is based on the information which has been shown to occur when a moving magnetic field passes across/over/around certain metals as demonstrated in the experiments preformed by David Lowrance.
SpinningCylinder

The key here is recognizing the so-called bloch wall as an accretion disk where energy and some parts of the magnetic field are re-absorbed back in to counter-space.

The way around this is to present the magnetic field with a material that repels it, which aluminum or copper will do, and in order to accomplish this it appears that in the ARV the center ring which creates the deck where the crew compartment door is located is a solenoid which drives a magnetic field around an aluminum disk, thereby creating a repulsive field at the plane of accretion. The center column being a powerful magnet such as a liquid cooled bitter solenoid. In this arrangement the whole is create force which prevents the re-assimilation of energy along the plane of the bloch wall and thereby forces the magnetic field to flow smoothly from the base up over and around the whole of the machine.

In my present theory of operation this arrangement projects a magnetic field out the base where these so-called capacitors are located, each of which is pie shaped, and each of which is made up from a quartz that acts to diffuse the magnetic and electrical fields back to a counter-spacial cloud of energy, which is continually cycled, moving from the base up and over the vehicle to the top where it is re-assimilated back into the core magnet and re-condensed back once more and then the whole cycle is repeated. This would be happening essentially instantly as the speed of Counter-Space is essentially instantaneous for all practical purposes.

Now understanding the Alexey is of course even more complex since the whole of it's successful operation is more accidental than by design, which is something I really hate say because obviously we owe a great deal to the designer for his labor. If my understanding is correct for the ARV then it would seem that the Alexey should have it's magnets rotating around the rim of the Aluminum disk, or possible might themselves be made to individually spin in holes in the aluminum plate which is what appears to be the case in these images.




In this arrangement it would seem that the AC is propelled in the correct polarity via a DC field that is held and cycled via the magnets fields, and since the nature of the aluminum is to repel a moving magnetic field then the AC field in the plate is held away from the magnets accretion plane, althewhile the DC field is being carried it through the aluminum plate via the magnetic field, whereupon the AC field will be taken up in whatever polar direction the DC field is moving, which is of course going to be flowing to the positive pole upwards, and so you have a sort of magnetic monopole.

Now obviously if I've gotten this figured right then there's a long term problem because all the AC isn't be used. Only the AC positive is being used and so there's a build up of a negative polar field in the aluminum plate. This might explain why the Alexey Device runs out of juice after a while because eventually there's just no more room for any positive movement in the plate and therefore the propulsive force of the positive field ceases to exist.

''sort of'' isn't enough
Enough is is at last 90% effect
MINIMUM 80%

Also, things I see I need to publically discuss at this point have a item called Outer hull - a thing which Alexey's device obviously lacks
And the thing which ARV has, but as it appears to me no one got a clue about it

Alexey's device a flying skeleton - it is an engine without case or without outer hull
And outer hull is the thing you need if you want control
To hull you also attach such things as vector controls. A camera to make it a nice drone
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I just stumbled across this. Anyone here seen this before? https://etheric.com/flux-liner-elect...pulsion-system
A very good catch NutzNvoltz. Collaborates some of the information I posted regarding what Mark had told me in an email when I bought some prints of the ARV. Here's what I would say to keep in mind. Any descriptions which describe the operation of this vehicle by conventional methods are descriptions which have been created to cloak a true understanding of Aether Theory: Assume that before all else.

Ultimately the machine has to operate with the principles outlined by Wheeler on anti-gravity. Reason being that space is comprised of hydrogen and helium, with vast portions only being comprised of empty vacuum , and so to use a high energy field as has been described as the drive on the ARV in order to bend space time (tensor theory) is, in my opinion, a smoke screen devised to cloak a real understanding of what takes place. Warp drive in the sense we have all been lead to believe seems remote because space is essentially empty. Particles which do exist are ionized gas plasmas but almost all space is empty. It is a vacuum.

http://askascientist.co.uk/space/what-is-space-made-of/


Look at the ARV in the light of what we do know about the Aether and do not get sucked in by the official version of reality.

These so-called capacitors in the base of the ARV are shaped like pie's or tetrahedrons. Now we know from the work of Joe Parr that this shape produces some form of unknown energy, a very powerful energy which destroyed some of Parr's experimental test machines. We also know that quartz is a prism and a barrier of some type.

So you see, you have to make sense of that knowledge; why quartz? In this thread I speculated that these so-called capacitors were creating the energy to power this machine, yet even if that were possible there is still the issue of empty space and so what then does that avail thee? See, it makes no sense to have gobs of power and no where to apply it if, in fact, this story about bending space is a fantasy because it's an empty vacuum. Something Tesla himself said was a crazy idea of Albert's.

So if that's not really workable, and it isn't, then it has to be doing something else because whatever else is in this machine, it is these so-called capacitors which are obviously the fundamental engines that drive it. Now I don't know why everyone insists on thinking the central column could be a giant Tesla Tower when there are nuclear generators the size of a basketball or grabage can that could probably far outproduce the electrical energy of a Tesla Coil and so that too makes little sense in my view.

No, these so-called capacitors have to be working to produce something else and so what was it?

Before I found Ken Wheeler, and before I discovered Henry Stevens, all I knew was what everyone else knew; that being the conventional ideas about the way things work. Nobody had ever told me about the ideas which preceded Einstein. I had no knowledge of the discoveries involving the magnetic field over this last decade.

Images of this vehicle have been actively removed. The smallest color image in the upper left, when seen in large format, shows a distortion on one side of the vehicle, like the air itself is disturbed. It is slightly visible here in this image.



Whatever else the quartz based capacitors do, the one thing they positively do is to create a cloud of some kind, and if we listen to Wheeler that cloud has to be associated with the Aether.

It's clear to me after all this time that what Joe Parr was encountering was the production of a cloud of energy connected to the Aether, and in the ARV you have the exact same pyramid shaped panels.

Now how hard is this to test? We have the descriptions of how the panels are built, what's in them, and so all that's needed is to put theory to test. Forget this bending space-time nonsense is my advice and look to new discovery in your own mind as to how this machines works. We know a lot which most people in academia are not even themselves aware of. Most of these people have absolutely nothing to offer except hopelessness.
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did everyone miss the center bottom of the ARV drawing ?
what does that look like to others ?
remember the link to the TV picture tube design ?
many ideas are not correct if this detail is not correct.
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did everyone miss the center bottom of the ARV drawing ?
what does that look like to others ?
remember the link to the TV picture tube design ?
many ideas are not correct if this detail is not correct.
No Spacecase0, I know you've brought this up many times and I'm sure you're on to something. Right now I'm just thinking about ways to test my theory of how this capacitor works, to see if it makes something, and I don't see this as especially complex.

I don't know what energies precisely need to go in the sharp end, but I think it is very logical that what comes out the other side is some other energy field and which I feel is probably an Counter-Spacial Cloud. Making and testing some small primitive capacitor shouldn't be that hard. It will just take experimenting to find what needs to go in to get the desired results.

The biggest problem has always been trying to understand what these capacitors did and I think we now have that answer.
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You come here offer almost nothing, attack Ken Wheeler, insult my intelligence, and then round it all up by calling my work assumptions, and that's not the half of it judging by the emails I've already received regarding some of your privately emailed instructions on how to do things; which if true will be turned over to law enforcement for investigation. I don't believe you are who you say you are. I don't think you're here to do anything other than to try to destroy everything I've worked for. I don't want you sending me anything and I don't what you on this thread. I won't be responding to you. I think I've already heard enough stupidity and insulting remarks from the likes of you.

Next this isn't your thread, it's my thread, and I hold Ken Wheeler in high regard. Let me know when you've posted over 1,000 video's on youtube and written a land mark book; certainly the most important book in the last 500 years. I owe a lot to Ken Wheeler. I've been on this a very long time and thanks to Ken Wheeler and Henry Stevens I now understand what is taking place.

I don't care what you think. Understand? I think you're here to destroy and you've contributed essentially nothing but insults.
It would suit me fine if I never talked to you again. Got it? Go start your own thread and get off mine.
I am sorry Gambeir if I upsetted you.
Time been very rogue for me lstely. Been sick and other things in life.
I will deleted all my replies.
No I am not here to destroy
I also hold you and Spacecase0 in very high regard.

I sent you a few PMs since December 15th 2018 you haven't replied
Then I got sick
Then more problems in real life.
It just kept piling up till I snapped some where.
I am really really sorry if I caused you any upset Gambeir
And I don't have anything against Ken Wheeler, really.
Can start from new sheet?
Say please if you accept my apology.
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I will ''shove off'' till Spring.
When I do my work I do it on separate thread
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You cannot understand the ARV or any other UFO until you understand the basic ideas which underpin the Aether theory and there is certainly no better expert on this than Ken Wheeler at the present time.

This is the real science, the hidden science of the the breakaway civilization, it's the true physics which Henry Stevens wrote about, and it is the true science which was marked for death and denial with the rise of the military industrial oligarchy.

I have several notebooks filled with hours of research notes and drawings I've made over the course of a number of years. I even purchased blue prints of the ARV direct from Mark McCandlish. I've been on this for a while. Above all else, there is no logical way to explain the ARV with conventional methods, and here I'm just talking about explaining how it floats above ground in a protected hanger, never mind the fact that it's also supposedly super~luminal.

There is no connection here to electret technology which should be in it's own thread.
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A short list of hypothetical space drives I tried to make work in the ARV design which fall under conventional physics.

Intertial Force Space Drive

Magnetic Worm Hole Generator
Monopole magnetic generator

MAGVID Hyper Ionzied Air Propulsion Types.
Open Field Gravito~Magnetic Ionized Plasma
Closed Contained Field Gravito~Magnetic Ionized Plasma

Light Speed Altering rotating magnetic fields

Now take any one of these possible explanations and then try to fit them inside the ARV design while making sense of the design itself. For example, the huge so-called capacitors in the base of the ARV have to be explained logically. One possible conclusion is that these so-called capacitors actually produced a magneto~electrical effect, and here an possible answer might seem to exist, as shown by this statement taken from one of my notebooks;

In some Anti-ferromagnetic materials when their crystals are placed in a moving field, either magnetic or electrical, these crystals will produce a proportional equivalent moment to the moving field. *I. Dzyalushinsky; A thermodynamic theory of "weak" ferromagnetism of antiferromagnetics. Journal of Physics and Chemistry of Solids (1958)

However, the problem with all these notions is that you really can't explain the machine, not the totality, and so it's cobble here and there but ultimately there really are no sensible logical explanations, especially if one were to then follow up by asking yourself how is it that anyone would dream of designing such a machine if these were the only tools in the box? That is to say, that if you only have the tools allowed under conventional physics then the design of the ARV is very hard to come to terms with.
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