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Not entirely sure our telepathic connection is without static but I take the point that I needed to restate that business about not knowing what a magnet is.

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Point is a magnet "HAS" no field itself, the so-called "magnetic field" "OF" a magnet is not OF the magnet, rather the MEDIUM ITSELF, ie the goddamn Ether.

@13:23 to 13:27 Hexagon stands out


One hypothesis, developed at Oxford University, is that the hexagon forms where
there is a steep latitudinal gradient in the speed of the atmospheric winds in Saturn's atmosphere.



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I was just about to accuse you of speaking in convoluted dielectric divergence when, suddenly I realized, no it's this damn computer monitor, and the reason is that I kept looking and looking for this blasted Staturian Hexagonal Devil's Mark but couldn't see one. Finally I happened to see that there is a faint hexagon and so now it's making a lot more sense.

Just to reassure you, I think Ken is entirely correct and that the magnet is the proof that the Aether is an in~coherent dielectric medium. Just as light is incoherent and made coherent by passing through a ruby, so too does a magnet make coherent the dielectric medium which passes through it. I think it's manifest and irrefutable. A magnets organization of crystalline facets is the means through which the dielectric is transformed, and in the case of a magnet it is an organized focusing of the dielectric medium which produces the magnetic field.

I'm just glad you kept with it. Why haven't I noticed this before? Did I just not connect up the meaning; which is even more disturbing?

I have to say this in support of Ken Wheeler: If we had to rely on the experts to explain this in meaningful comprehension that anyone can understand, which you would logically think would be a hallmark of intellect but evidently isn't so far as the Nobel Prize Committee is concerned, then the entire human race would go extinct twice over before a single Nobel Prize winner would succeed. Just go to the Wikipedia link and read what a Nobel Laureate has to say. Go to the section on "Quantum vacuum." Remember this guy is talking about the same thing Ken is. I challenge any novice to know that the subjects are one and the same without help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories

I keep saying these people are frauds and hustlers and the more I understand the clearer it becomes that is exactly what they are.
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Our future is closing in faster than people know despite being told over and over what the plans are. Everything is your fault ya know and the PTB solutions are not ones you or I would choose but they are telling us what they plan. For that reason we have to get a grip on the technology while it is still possible to do so.

Now I'm not sure this is exactly right but it has some hints in it.

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Isn't it interesting that the interior shots of the space craft in 2001 have the crew shown coming and going while walking inside a hexagonal beehive shaped tube?
In fact the shots use brightly colored space suits such a Red, Gold/Yellow, Silver, and Blue through the film.

https://cdn.sfstation.com/wp-content...rick_main2.gif

https://www.indiewire.com/wp-content...ssey.jpg?w=680

http://linkandtag.com/wp-content/upl...03/2001hed.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ca/5e...46160cdbda.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JNSEZYtiT...1+silver+3.jpg

And of course there is a moon base
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ymTVMQ4_T...1+silver+5.PNG
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Here's a little something you're probably not familiar with and one which you might be depending on your taste and possibly how old you are. Lets start with the later of the two.

It's now 1953 and the Martian Invaders looked like this.


The Martian's use an electric eye to scout out locations.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nq0PXMxF0...ds+screen2.jpg

Fast forward to the 2002 edition of Unitel's 185 page book on Quantum Electromagnetic Propulsion
https://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/UNITEL_15.pdf


http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/UNITEL_1.pdf

"Physicists say it doesn’t matter if these photons are 10 feet apart or 10 billion light-years apart. When you change the electrical field vector of one, the other one will change to match it exactly. If you move it 10 degrees, the other photon will move its field vector 10 degrees. So you have this "communication" going on between photons even though they are separated by a very large distance. And this communication is instantaneous. It's billions of times faster than the speed-of-light."
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/UNITEL_3.pdf

Interview with Larry Maurer: The CEO of Unitel Aerospace.
Now deceased. Larry passed away in 2011.
http://www.americanantigravity.com/f...-Interview.pdf
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James Cox inertial propulsion

I found an interesesting interview with James Cox inventor of an antigravity system ;he talking about his experiments James E. Cox on Inertial Propulsion
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Good Job~

Yes, this is very interesting and thanks for posting that. I'm sure others are also going to find this interesting. I'm only a few minutes in to it right now but I think this is going to be helpful.
Sinergicus, I took the liberty of reposting this because of what James says at around the 37:30 mark; appears to be a precise description of what is taking place in the Alexy Cherkurkov device.

An Inquiry into Alexey Chekurkovís Flying Discs and Replications
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I'm going to suggest we discuss the Aether/counter space here to keep the Alexey thread clear for replication information.

We are closing in on understanding basic principles behind these machines but those principles are not officially recognized and are denied by claiming to have been discredited and disproven and this comes down to understanding counter space as the Aether.


In the minds of well meaning and highly educated people this all seems absurd. They have the tests and they have the math to prove the tests and to them the entire Einsteinian outlay is a proven fact of reality. What they don't have is an education in evil incarnate, what they don't have is experience dealing with incarnate evil, what they don't have is an education in police science and so they have no understanding how their ideas could be wrong even though they have all this supposed evidence saying it's right.

It is inconceivable to these people how mathematical poofs could be right and still describe a wrong concept.

Honestly how do these people think what they think? Does a detective assume evidence provided by a suspect in a murder case is telling the truth; Is it rational to think that the material evidence or alibi a prime suspect provides is truthful or even real? Christ sakes can you get any dumber? Now of course a detective expects that evidence might be manufactured evidence just like any other right minded person might also conclude. Who has kids and not had this experience? Good God~

From the get go, there a fundamental logical problems with the entire chain of reasoning used to arrive at the conclusions main stream physics has been operating with for about 100 years: Couldn't possibly be because some entity wants to hid something right? Like say the military industrialists and their proxy stooge security services which Eisenhower warned all of us about.

You have to be completely mind controlled if you believe that flying saucers are from another world, that black triangles are from another world, though now it might be true. They might be making them on Mars or the Dark Side of the Moon because making a factory there would be feasible and a lot more sensible too.

So ya know, you have a choice, you can believe published hooey or you can go find the truth for yourself. The place to start is with Henry Stevens who explains not only how and why the theories of Tesla and others had to be discredited, and because of flying saucer antigravity technology, but also how they did it and what's wrong with it, as well as giving a wonderful brief synopsis of what the Aether is. http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf

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Why don't we have any aliens landing and saying hi? Why wasn't Unitel's quantum light propulsion noticed? There are a lot of why's laying about for the investigator to examine.

The reason Unitel's ideas weren't adopted is because, one, light won't work because it's not fast enough nor was it needed when it was conceived. A better and real solution had already been achieved and was already a part of secret history tucked away in the knowledge base of what today is a militarized alternative civilization. Aliens, whom we can be positive do exist some where, aren't showing up here because, in case you haven't noticed, they are the ones needing rescue from us. Not the other way round.

Every human civilization has been built on exploitation of the lower masses using slavery and murder and mind control. Mass murder is disguised as war with the purpose of liberating debt holders from debts and to profit from theft, and it's implemented using mind control techniques. Just look at the US vers Chinese debt holders and the rise in war making propaganda out of the stooge main stream media. Those evil Chinese *****s huh? Lol~ Yea right. How accidental do you honestly think it is now, suddenly out of the blue, its Amazon, Google, and others all screaming about a supposed secret chip planted in computers by who? Oh yes by those Chinese...yea right and if you believe that you will believe anything.

Given the existing state of world governments it is naive to think that any exploitable alien life would be treated in any way different than our own and likely much worse.

If that were not the case alien species would be known right now. We don't know them because the civilization which feeds off us is right now engaged in doing the same old same old. It's trying to steal everything not nailed down, ours specifically, as well as finding and torturing out all information that any alien might hold in their brain, and then it's denying any physical mass contact using the weapons it has developed as a result of all these policies as well as the brilliance of our own species. All the while it's constructing a story line about evil aliens. Maybe they are evil but if so it's probably not accidental.

Where ever aliens may be, it is unlikely the so-called foreign policy extended to other nations on this plant wouldn't be the standard foreign policy extended to an alien species on another world, and given that fact, how then can we expect that any alien life would conceive that our own species and planet needs rescue as much as they themselves almost certainly do? Given those truths, how then is it rational to think aliens would even be trying to help us instead of destroying us, or wishing they could, how logical are these ideas about alien rescue and or evil aliens? Of course they aren't showing up, but they are indeed out there, count on it. Let's just hope that half the Galaxy doesn't already wish we were all dead because of the kind of people we have allowed to rule our own world. That my friends is why we need to figure this out.
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Thirdly, aljhoa correctly directs our attention to super-fluidity and the statement by TheoriaApophasis (Ken Wheeler). Which like all of Ken's stuff is filled with humor.
See Figure 11 on page 12 of NASA/TMó2006-214390

and YT Is a Spinning Gyroscope Weightless?


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I just found this interesting site : UFO unidentified flying object Electrogravitics saucer, Space Technology, Suppressed Inventions, MUFON
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and YT Is a Spinning Gyroscope Weightless?

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Oh My, we really have decided to open a can of worms this AM haven't we aljhoa? Lol~ OK, well all in all, a really interesting combination and great little PDF from NASA. There are a number of tangentially related issues to the entire issue of what transpires in a spinning mass. However, this so called experiment kind of reminds me of trying to prove an airplane isn't propelled through the atmosphere by attaching a toy propeller to a stick and running around in circles. The spurious comments on the video are as golden as they are instructive. I feel sorry for the poor kid who made it but at least he does manage to demonstrate a mechanical ability.

Anyways~ So yea, spinning mass and the crap it does are all worth close study; none of which I can claim to have done myself.

So back to running around in circles with a propeller on a stick. You can't prove anything without a complete machine. Whether or not the Otis Carr OCX-X1 would work isn't as important as the concepts behind it because our technology is now capable doing this at the atomic level. Something which was probably possible for Otis as well but that's neither here nor there, and maybe Otis knew a lot more than I do, and maybe there's more than meets the eye going on if and when someone ever gets round to replicating that machine. The macro and the micro only go so far and who knows what may be with a machine replicating the micro at a macro scale.

In the OCX-X1 you have some primary ideas going on that are contained in the Jerry Bayles paper on vectored centrifugal force and you also have the probably all important ideas forwarded by James Cox, which include Coriolis force. The whole idea here is to reverse the natural gravitational spin vector which takes place in matter due to the same forces.

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In the Alexey we have all the natural forces taking place which we think are responsible for creating gravity but applied in creative way such that the surrounding space is changed to lower the speed of light. In the Alexey machine there is a replicated "non-uniform" electro-magnetic field, it is a divided DC electromagnetic field surrounding a high frequency alternating current. This rotating electro-magnetic DC field creates an electromagnetic coriolis force which then acts upon the alternating current high voltage plate. This is akin to what takes place in the Otis OCX-X1 when the so-called Ultrons are acted upon in their spin states as they themselves orbit on another spinning plate. So in the OTC-X1, the "non-uniform" electromagnetic energy field is replaced by a physical electric magnetic actuators and which then act directly upon spinning Ultrons; n'est-ce pas?

In the Alexey the HV AC plate is being acted upon by an electromagnetic Coriolis force brought about by the underlying electrically charged spinning magnetic plate which is carrying this DC field perpendicular to the AC HV field in a non-uniform way via a magnetic field and because it is in rotation that non-uniform field expands.

At some point the non-uniform electromagnetic DC field acts upon the atomic spin states of the HF AC plate. It may act only upon the AC Current or both the current and the mass of the AC plate. I don't know which or if it's all. I'm not qualified sufficiently to know which is most likely but it is acting upon some part of that mass of the AC HF plate.

As the spin of the magnetic plate is DC charged in a vertical spin field the surrounding atmosphere is inducted to a polarized ionization state. A plasma hue should begin to appear as energy is taken in to the surrounding space around the machine.

Inside this bubble the speed of light has been changed. This is explained by John St. Clare in his patents; someone who is competent enough to do that and which is where I have to refer people to since that is far outside my own capability. Nevertheless, the thing to be observed is that the whole Alexey apparatus is essentially an artificial recreation of the space time of Earth itself.

Therefore, the critical features are the effects of an electromagnetic Coriolis force acting upon a mass. Critical because according to Counter Spacial Theory, a non uniform and incoherent energy field comprised of ubber high speed energy acts upon mass (Earth) and mass is then induced by the Coriolis force to vector inwards upon itself creating gravity. Probably a little more complex but the gist of the idea is what is important.

Extrapolation then says that a work around to gravity is to gain a frequency in tune with those upper high speed energies which act upon mass (Earth), and by doing so one then effectively becomes part of that non uniform energy field, ie counter space. The closer one becomes with this frequency the less mass they should have, and because this counter spacial energy is incoherent there is no vector needed, you simply have to get close enough to it's speed to enjoy the benefits.

Now obviously observation of physical craft such as Black Triangles shows that possibility, or that there is a correlation to the concept, so whether or not mass is being lost or whether or not light speed is being slowed is an entirely academic issue for physics to sort out once they do discover reality.

Ya know, it's taken a long time but once you have this idea about "Radiant Energy" being counter space and being an energy which is just bouncing all over at billions of times the speed of light, then you begin to gather how things actually work and it begins to come in to focus and you begin to see how things could be if only it were more widely understood. It isn't radiant energy which I see, it's an incoherent energy, just like a pond isn't a river, or light isn't a laser, it's a field of power reverberating throughout the cosmos which is akin to a fluid which behaves as a solid because it's moving at billion and billions and billions of times the speed of light. Think Carl Sagan OK? Billions~
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In the Alexey the HV AC plate is being acted upon by an electromagnetic Coriolis force brought about by the underlying electrically charged spinning magnetic plate which is carrying this DC field perpendicular to the AC HV field in a non-uniform way via a magnetic field and because it is in rotation that non-uniform field expands.

One might think that the reason the Alexey levitates is due to the expansion of the non-uniform electromagnetic field induced by the rotation of the magnetic plate, and what really takes place is that the inducted ionized air becomes a part of the the total machine in the sense that the mass of ionized air molecules are themselves having their spin states acted upon by the Coriolis force of the rotating expanding electromagnetic field.
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It's going be a cool thing for another generation to look back on this stuff but I'm just sure they are going see all of us as a bunch of gullible idiots. At least we ourselves now have a better understanding thanks to the Alexey machine. I think you're gonna find sinergicus that the ideas in most of these are not workable because the ideas behind them aren't based on a true understanding of the energies which activate matter because really that's what counter space does. I think that as we learn more we will see that a lot of these have workable parts and might work in the atmosphere but not in space, or that they have part of it right but are missing other parts.

I've seen that site before and the real problem is not knowing what works. Well we now know what works and we can now begin to sort it all out.
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Ok I should warn people that sometimes I say something without really thinking it through and here is one possible example;

"The whole idea here is to reverse the natural gravitational spin vector which takes place in matter due to the same forces."

Not too sure that's entirely correct or even remotely correct.
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Ok I should warn people that sometimes I say something without really thinking it through and here is one possible example;

"The whole idea here is to reverse the natural gravitational spin vector which takes place in matter due to the same forces."

Not too sure that's entirely correct or even remotely correct.
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you are not bothering me at all by doing that
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About Alexey device and triangle ships...

Hello Gambeir -et Al- and great work here, like always!

I have, somehow the idea that in the Alexey Machine we will find the very "BASICS", which generates that Gravity Counter Field effect, however, it is still not perfectly developed...as he has said himself. But undoubtedly it is a major step of advance on these fields.

Once this small device gets exploded in operation to a max operating capability...then it would become a very solid and compact "gravitational engine"...

Now if we ANALIZE a simple and plain UFO, disc shaped, with spherical center...plus all info we have on the architecture/structure of them...we realize it's "power source" including a sort of center Tesla Coil plus all drivers are located in that spherical center or "column" which gains in height versus the rest of the flat disc shape.

The HV DC spinning Electric Fields as well as the center static HV AC disc could be easily done in a DISC-RING GEOMETRY, allowing the room at center for all the TC like plus power source and drivers.

Now on the Triangle shaped UFO...let's condense in a simple Alexey device, without Power Source...but just looking at it as one (1) Gravitational Engine...then the Triangle ship is like a 3 wheel drive system, having 3 gravitational engines with room for a greater power supply-drivers-controls room... at triangle center... and so, the maneuvering on advance, lift, reverse, etc being given by the driving forces applied to each independent engine....

I recently watched a triangle UFO video a guy took while driving at night...craft was just "cruising" at low speed...but guess what?...it was moving, not with one single engine in front...but with the two aligned in fwd motion...

I will try to find video and link it here later.

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Hello Gambeir -et Al- and great work here, like always!

I have, somehow the idea that in the Alexey Machine we will find the very "BASICS", which generates that Gravity Counter Field effect, however, it is still not perfectly developed...as he has said himself. But undoubtedly it is a major step of advance on these fields.

Once this small device gets exploded in operation to a max operating capability...then it would become a very solid and compact "gravitational engine"...

Now if we ANALIZE a simple and plain UFO, disc shaped, with spherical center...plus all info we have on the architecture/structure of them...we realize it's "power source" including a sort of center Tesla Coil plus all drivers are located in that spherical center or "column" which gains in height versus the rest of the flat disc shape.

The HV DC spinning Electric Fields as well as the center static HV AC disc could be easily done in a DISC-RING GEOMETRY, allowing the room at center for all the TC like plus power source and drivers.

Now on the Triangle shaped UFO...let's condense in a simple Alexey device, without Power Source...but just looking at it as one (1) Gravitational Engine...then the Triangle ship is like a 3 wheel drive system, having 3 gravitational engines with room for a greater power supply-drivers-controls room... at triangle center... and so, the maneuvering on advance, lift, reverse, etc being given by the driving forces applied to each independent engine....

I recently watched a triangle UFO video a guy took while driving at night...craft was just "cruising" at low speed...but guess what?...it was moving, not with one single engine in front...but with the two aligned in fwd motion...

I will try to find video and link it here later.

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What do you think?


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Thanks for the encouragement and kind words Ufopolitics.

What you've said is right and your thoughts are supported by the history and artifacts which are known. At present all of the recovered artifacts relating to your idea are unrecognized. Around 2013 we had a series of space debris raining across the planet. There was a site where one of these had been X-rayed but a lot of this stuff has disappeared. It might still be out there but I can't locate it. Such an image today might be useful but I think we have a good idea what's involved right now. Maybe these are rocket parts and maybe they isn't ~

I'm not sure this is what you had in mind but I think these are not what people have been lead to believe and that they are rather related to the system which Michael Schratt shows.

Earth: NASA is investigating a mysterious "space ball" that crash-landed in a remote area of Namibia.

Hmm...Mars: We can ignore these


Texas: 2013 Three Space Balls.
Is It Space Junk? Texan Electrician Finds Mysterious Sphere in his Backyard
Identifying Space Debris: Further Adventures in East Texas

https://www.rt.com/news/sphere-ufo-space-brazil-103/

https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/wt11.../28/id/699346/

New Zealand space balls had everyone fooled | Stuff.co.nz

https://inhabitat.com/mysterious-met...be-space-junk/



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And then we have these: Stone Sphere's across the planet from the ancients.
What were they trying to replicate or are they replications at all?

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Nothing to see here, just round natural rocks, stupid native's who worshiped boulders and junk rocket parts, move along ....moooo..
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This may seem a tangent which is unrelated but in the end I think you will perhaps see that it has a purpose which relates back to the theme of this thread and to the previous posts. This is not a rant. It has a purpose. I've been watching this develop for a long time. There's something happening in your own back yard. Someone or something is literally building a fort in your back yard, you just don't yet know it and that's the rub: why is he hiding the fort in the back yard?

I didn't start out wanting to write the following but having now run into stone boulders, and equally important concern of their purpose also brings us to what else is going on around them, and that then brings us right to the door steep another big question which is directly to related UFO's. The places they evidently enjoy vacationing in, which seems to be parks/public lands and non-public off limits world wild life heritages and vast un-inhabited lands of the North and the oceans themselves. So now in some sense we have UFO's tagged to un-inhabited land, and which then seems to have a cross correlation to the theft of public lands or even the lands of nation states in some cases. Some of this involves artifact recovery.

The way our world works is that the really important stuff is cloaked behind the most seemingly innocuous organizations. Organizations "With Good Intentions" but who are unknowingly being employed to provide the hands of evil with the personnel, money, and commitment to a cause which isn't what they think it is. They are undoubtely not being run by evil people. Quite the opposite. I don't want anyone thinking these are necessarily bad people or bad organizations. There is something going on. Something which I do not understand fully but which is not good. I'm an American living in America, but you can be anyone living anywhere on this planet, the concerns have no borders. Start by noticing that un-elected bodies of appointed committees have been expropriating public and private land under the guise of quote:"protecting it." Un-elected bodies inside governments inside of governments: All with police powers. This is not a good thing and again this is a global issue.

The way evil works is to put good intentions to evil use. This is it's greatest joy. Nothing brings greater joy to evil than to use good people for bad ends. Evil is never more successful than when it has employed the fanatical crusader bent on doing good, unknowingly for the hands of evil, and the most fanatical do-gooders are always the young.

*First our so called elect took public lands and put illegal taxations on lands which are public property. No voting required. Having provided the means to lawfully steal, the changes desired are being made to these lands, and the changes create private property through bureaucracy. This change to public property is being implemented under the guise of saving them from the public. We have to see this not just as theft but as a purpose. Everywhere you look they are literally cordoning off where on these lands you can actually go, providing for example raised walkways, specific paths you are allowed to take and of course you must notify the officials in charge where you are and where you're going. Mostly for your own safety right? That's not a joke though, it's just that you probably don't realize what the real dangers might be. It was noted in the incidents involving the Big Basin Drones that those machines seemed to favor public lands/national park, and that they seemed to be looking for something. Guess what they looking for, do you think it could be You?

Stealing public lands has a historical reference from England where self appointed rulers enacted laws closing off public lands which people formerly had used to provide themselves an independent life with their livestock. Instead of herding sheep the people themselves became the sheep being herded in to poverty, hellish slave factories, coal mines, prostitution, and crime. Almost sounds familiar huh? As soon as someone start's blabbing to you that this law, this organization, this tax is needed, then you would be well advised to put on your X-Ray Googles and consider the person in front you either an outright criminal or a gullible tool. Later you can decide if the proselytizing is just another criminal scam or if it's really something which is valid. The elect are especially adept at paving the way for evil doing their good work for you in the legislatures of our governments. Most of which evidently involves taxing you, criminalizing you, your kids, or your possessions, and then restricting your freedoms and rights.

OK, so now I can move to the next huge boulder, this one a lot more likely to be of use than the last, and dang if that's not one fine interesting rock to examine. I got to hand it to them they have this story down to, well, down to petrosphere's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrosphere

Following the links ultimately takes us to, of all things, condensed matter physics. Just read a paragraph and the stones take on new meaning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensed_matter_physics

OK, so here's just a cut and paste sample of the links.

Description
The spheres range in size from a few centimetres to over 2 metres (6.6 ft) in diameter, and weigh up to 15 tons.[2] Most are sculpted from gabbro,[2] the coarse-grained equivalent of basalt. There are a dozen or so made from shell-rich limestone, and another dozen made from a sandstone. They appear to have been made by hammering natural boulders with other rocks, then polishing with sand. The degree of finishing and precision of working varies considerably. The gabbro came from sites in the hills, several kilometres away from where the finished spheres are found, though some unfinished spheres remain in the hills. They are used for decoration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_..._of_Costa_Rica

Most of the Stones are made from Gabbro. OK so lets just see what that is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabbro

Well first off it's phanerite, which means;
A phanerite[1] is an igneous rock whose microstructure is made up of crystals large enough to be distinguished with the unaided eye.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanerite

Which is the opposite of Aphanite obviously.
Aphanite, or aphanitic as an adjective (from the Greek αφανης, "invisible"), is a name given to certain igneous rocks that are so fine-grained that their component mineral crystals are not detectable by the unaided eye[1]

Porphyritic is an adjective used in geology, specifically for igneous rocks, for a rock that has a distinct difference in the size of the crystals, with at least one group of crystals obviously larger than another group.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyritic
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OK, is ya are all educated now?

Now here is something I ran in to. I have not yet tried to replicate this myself. I'm going out on a limb using it, but I don't think I've ever seen this idea forwarded by anyone, and the most amazing idea is actually asked afterwards in the comments by someone regarding the relationship between the Earth and the Moon.

If any of you replicate this say so. It's cold and wet outside and I only have two hands myself. Like I say I'm really going out on the limb posting this so it could be complete garbage. It looks like you need a cut stone to do this or two that have flat spots.

If there is anything to this the implications are mind bending.

Take a look my dear mud dwellers

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Anyways~ So yea, spinning mass ... none of which I can claim to have done myself.
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This is more in line with what I thinking. A standard Alexey with the addition of pyramids/tetrahedrons. Joe Parr said the pyramid/triangles enter hyper~space when they reached a resonance with the magnetic field.

So this addition might be tried by attaching a triangular shape to the HV plate. Joe used copper cut triangle but later said that he discovered it didn't matter what they made from. We now have a number of machines which involved hyper space or the creation of an artificially induced hyper spacial bubble: Those of John St. Clair in his patents, The McCandlish ARV, Joe Parr's which were real working machines, images of Black Triangles, and now the Alexey.


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By suggestion of Gambeir moved from the topic An Inquiry into Alexey Chekurkovís Flying Discs and Replications to this thread. It is about how Alexey Chekurkovís Flying Discs can work.

Hi guys! Imagine that the upper and lower disks are like millstones.




And between them is the middle fixed disk...
What will happen on the surface of the middle disk?
More precisely than what is happening on its upper surface differs from what is happening on the lower?
I think only the middle disk is lifting up.
The other two only make different conditions of something (electrons movement maybe) on the lower surface of the middle disk and on the upper surface of the middle disk. This difference of conditions works like the power of Archimedes and the disk just pops up like a wood in the water. We still do not know how the power of Archimedes actually works. Forget the standard explanation. What is realy causes it? There are a lot of problems in this field, for example, why does a funnel form in the bathroom when water is drained? Maybe Alexey's device will begin the understanding of this process. Forgive me my english if i was not correct. Google translate helps me...
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Your English is fine. However I think you're probably not right about that but the ideas are interesting and I'm glad you took the effort to post them. Shows you're thinking for yourself. Certainly something we can put in the stock pile. I feel we have a fair idea what is taking place based on both conventional physics (Einsteinian) and un-conventional Aether Theory. Here's what I think at present. It's probably completely and laughably wrong but this is what I'm rather wildly hypothesizing is the reason this machine works.

The machine either is, or may be doing one or more of the following.
1. It's producing a charged sheath vortex with an outer sheath containing positive ion charged air molecules, and with an inner sheath of negatively charged air molecules. Similar to a tornado. This is a product of the spinning magnets whose polarities are negative on the bottom and positive on the top. The positive charge is more energetic and will surround the negative charge constricting it as it spins Earthward. The Earth is a ground and the nature of the negative charge is be repelled by the ground but when it is forced to contact it is at a fine point and this is partly why the tornado has this cone shape to it.

Because the magnets are in rotation they induce a slowly expanding energy field which is now carrying the electric potential outwards and which is further energized by the production of a cold plasma. Eventually forming a plasmoid shape which in a high energy system could become an airborne bolide capable of self support and harboring protective qualities from radar wave interception.

2. The asymmetrical arrangement of the lower plate with the magnets, as compared to the overhead AC High Voltage Plate, helps to pull hyper-space/counter space in around the machine and the vortex tubes. A higher speed electro-magnetic system may alone suffice if cycling at high frequency and with high energy. The effect lowers the speed of light in the local area, enabling hyper velocity travel and altered energy requirement.

3. While this is taking place the rotating magnetic field, spun by the lower plate, is transmitted directly through the Alternating Current Potential of the High Voltage Plate which induces Coriolis force upon the spin states of the High Voltage Plate's Electrical Charge. Thus the rotating magnetic plate is actually a wireless DC circuit crossing through air and matter while being put in a rotation. I think that this is the primary critical feature and which manages to induce enough of an alteration in the spin states of the AC High Voltage Field to produce a vectored thrust away from Earth which is greatly enhanced by the now altered space time which surrounds the vehicle.

4. The most likely reason this machine works is because it is capable of creating an artificial space time, effectively replacing the surrounding space time, and thereby the power requirements are greatly changed so that subtle changes in the vectored thrust of the High Voltage AC fields electrons are sufficiently powerful enough to create a vertical lift.

5. The upper plate is providing a surface for the positive ionized air molecules which do create a positive effect. However, it's really the top most part of the machine, the supporting top plate which is doing this and that covering should be dome shaped to enhance the effect.
Gambeir, Thank A lot for the welcome!
I must say that I am pretty mediocre opinion about Einstein and other similar theories with hyper-space, time shifts and the like vice, which do not introduce any practical clues for reality, but only exist in their speculative space. What you describe can certainly be, any phenomenon can be described in an infinite number of ways. But you need to cling to something really working in practice. If there is nothing like that, You need to look for the most likely option, which in terms of technology can only be an option, from the point of view of technology, there can only be an option where the greatest influence of force factors is seen, those factors that are weak should be discarded and then one can come to the basic phenomenon from the point of view of force interactions. About the creation of a charged sheath vortex with an outer sheath containing positive ion charged air molecules, and with an inner sheath of negatively charged air molecules. Something interesting can happen here only near the surface of a disc with textured aluminum. Pimples of textured aluminum can create turbulence in the air. As for the air vortex, I am only talking about the air vortex, it is possible that there may be some other kind of vortex inside the surface of the Fermi disk, electrons in the crystal lattice of the disk can create a kind of vortex, but the whole air whirlwind around the discs is so weak that it seems to me to be neglected. We can only consider its effect on the turbulence around the pimples of textured aluminum, small swirls around them can be quite strong.
From this point of view, the strong fields will be only inside the disks, in the aluminum itself. For example: what happens to the electrons in the central disc? They are affected by the Lorentz force, centrifugal force, and also the force of inertia tends to leave them in place. Add to this the influence of statics constantly injected into the central disk by means of kacher. And yes, even in the memory of the electric field, which is created by the two remaining disks. What happens in the central disk? This is the strongest part of the whole experiment from the point of view of force interaction. About the dome shaped to enhance the effect. The piezoelectric speaker may well shake the disks, at the micro level of course. And it can quite create whimsical combinations of different forms. As for the textured aluminum disc, there is no need to create anything there, the effect can actually increase there. Each pimple is a kind of dome. And here's the question: what will happen if we move such a dome forward? A spiral current will immediately appear around the dome. When you stir the tea by the spoon it appears the funnel. These are inverse things. You can take for example a cone to immerse it under water and drag it forward. There will be twists around the cone. And this phenomenon is pretty strong. This is point of view from the strongest phenomena in the device, they must be borne in mind and combine somehow. As for the weaker phenomena and official speculative theories, then it seems to me that they need to be discarded. I apologize if you somehow belong to the official scientific community. I'm just an engineer, and I have to do something real, and in my work around there are a lot of scientists who donít know Nichrome and give instructions in the style of the theory of relativity. Try and do what they want. Well, our scientists have a kind of privileged caste. It is more about money and status than achievements. Therefore, in our country it is precisely this attitude towards scientists. Well, respectively, to their theories do not correlate with practice. All these time shifts... In short, we perceive only what you can check for yourself. I apologize again if I hurt You...
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Gambeir, Thank A lot for the welcome!
I must say that I am pretty mediocre opinion about Einstein and other similar theories with hyper-space, time shifts and the like vice, which do not introduce any practical clues for reality, but only exist in their speculative space.
Yes, well I am in agreement with you. Einstein's ideas are a vast departure from pre-existing ideas about the Aether. Einsteins ideas about the way things work have value but are not accurate. I wouldn't go so far as call his ideas garbage but I would approach them with caution.

The older I get the more I know I don't know. I'm not a scientist: I'm not anything any longer. I'm retired and so I sort do what a researcher and scribbler with minor academic training in methodologies of criminal investigation might do when they have nothing else better to do. Mainly I tend to cause problems. It's what the retired do in America. Most do it just because that's all they know how to do, but I do it with meaning and a focus, so hopefully in the end it won't all be pointless.

Now a scientist is someone who does real world experiments and validates their ideas through real world demonstration of physical observable facts. We have scientists here on this forum, it's just that they themselves don't know it, but they are real scientists nevertheless.

The main thing is that when we are on this topic of how this device works what I do is to use all the tools in the box. Now this business about light speed being reduced comes out the patents of this guy named John Quincy St. Claire.

Who is Inventor John Quincy St. Claire?
https://steemit.com/history/@scubast...uincy-st-clair

This is pretty interesting if you know enough about British History and the origins of law enforcement. The term Sheriff comes down to us originally by way of the King's tax collector, known as the Shire's Eiff/eff. This man had at his disposal 100 good men, for tracking down highwaymen and other bad men, and for of course collecting taxes for the King. There's a small title of little nobility granted by a Baronage to the name in ancient history.

See these patents.
https://patents.google.com/?assignee...ncy+st.+clair+



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What you describe can certainly be, any phenomenon can be described in an infinite number of ways. But you need to cling to something really working in practice. If there is nothing like that, You need to look for the most likely option, which in terms of technology can only be an option, from the point of view of technology, there can only be an option where the greatest influence of force factors is seen, those factors that are weak should be discarded and then one can come to the basic phenomenon from the point of view of force interactions.
Yes, that's correct, one can describe things one way without being right even though it may seem correct, and again you are correct in that this is primarily what todays self described scientists do.

This really goes directly back to the perversion of knowledge under Einstein.

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About the creation of a charged sheath vortex with an outer sheath containing positive ion charged air molecules, and with an inner sheath of negatively charged air molecules. Something interesting can happen here only near the surface of a disc with textured aluminum. Pimples of textured aluminum can create turbulence in the air. As for the air vortex, I am only talking about the air vortex, it is possible that there may be some other kind of vortex inside the surface of the Fermi disk, electrons in the crystal lattice of the disk can create a kind of vortex, but the whole air whirlwind around the discs is so weak that it seems to me to be neglected. We can only consider its effect on the turbulence around the pimples of textured aluminum, small swirls around them can be quite strong.

From this point of view, the strong fields will be only inside the disks, in the aluminum itself. For example: what happens to the electrons in the central disc? They are affected by the Lorentz force, centrifugal force, and also the force of inertia tends to leave them in place. Add to this the influence of statics constantly injected into the central disk by means of kacher. And yes, even in the memory of the electric field, which is created by the two remaining disks. What happens in the central disk? This is the strongest part of the whole experiment from the point of view of force interaction.
Understanding cyclonic action with electrical charge theory is not a normal practice. It isn't for example something common to weather knowledge or aviation science. It isn't even widely known.

Still I understand what you're saying. We may address this idea further and more specifically as we progress.

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About the dome shaped to enhance the effect. The piezoelectric speaker may well shake the disks, at the micro level of course. And it can quite create whimsical combinations of different forms. As for the textured aluminum disc, there is no need to create anything there, the effect can actually increase there. Each pimple is a kind of dome. And here's the question: what will happen if we move such a dome forward? A spiral current will immediately appear around the dome. When you stir the tea by the spoon it appears the funnel. These are inverse things. You can take for example a cone to immerse it under water and drag it forward. There will be twists around the cone. And this phenomenon is pretty strong. This is point of view from the strongest phenomena in the device, they must be borne in mind and combine somehow.
Excellent points to consider.

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As for the weaker phenomena and official speculative theories, then it seems to me that they need to be discarded.
I don't discard too many things. I don't like to close the doors on anything. Once you do that you become blind to what might be. I do understand what you're saying and would generally agree with you.

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I apologize if you somehow belong to the official scientific community. I'm just an engineer, and I have to do something real, and in my work around there are a lot of scientists who don’t know Nichrome and give instructions in the style of the theory of relativity. Try and do what they want. Well, our scientists have a kind of privileged caste. It is more about money and status than achievements. Therefore, in our country it is precisely this attitude towards scientists. Well, respectively, to their theories do not correlate with practice. All these time shifts... In short, we perceive only what you can check for yourself. I apologize again if I hurt You...
America is exactly the same. America is more like the Soviet Union was than when Russia was the Soviet Union. Americans just don't yet realize it is all.
You're not going to offend me. To do that you have be trying to kill me, something a few have actually tried by the way, so far without success. I expect
possibly a few more attempts before the Jig is up. Lol~
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OK, well enough of this, let's talk about rocks Bugsfly. Round ones and what they say about our reality? I know you have some ideas on that so lets just discuss this a little bit shall we?
I have to take a power nap to recharge, but we can get in to this because I don't think these stones are just because people across the planet thought; "Oh hey, let's all carve some
big rocks in to round shapes like the moon, I think it was done knowing something we don't and I don't think that the global incidence of these stones is accidental. Now of course
one factor in these stones is their quartz crystals and another are other compounds with a crystalline composition, and of course we all know about the Tibetan Sound Levitation of stones.

A couple of quick toss in links for food.
Tibetan Sound Levitation Of Large Stones
Mega Geometry: Tibetan Monks and the Geometry of Levitating Stones

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At first the idea of grinding stones seemed a bit crazy, yet there was sense to it, and then there was the fact that they were stones, and of course I had been toying with the stories about levitating stones, and then I stumbled in to the video of the guy showing how to magnetize two rocks. Out of the blue comes Bugsfly's stone grinders. Well the way Universe works is to send us emails and most times we are just so mind controlled we can't see what the message is, and that's if we even realize that we've just gotten an email from Universe. Well this stone grinder business was clearly an email but what was it trying to tell me?

Now naturally my first thoughts about the giant stones is that they were made to levitate, and of course I thought of the normal things like horns, drums, humming tones, stamping feet and dancing to high pitched wails. None of these seemed likely, and then I found the video on the guy magnetizing stones by circling it with another stone. Ok so now we have an Alexey rotating magnetic field to play with around the giant ancient stones, so there's now more besides dancing suggestively while pulling on our hair ect, ect. So then I thought well the ancients might have known that rolling rocks around rocks could perhaps magnetize the stones and then the vibrations of the singing, humming, ect might also then play a role, but ya know there's one idea I hadn't considered and that was grinding stones. Put it all together and you now have a slightly more plausible story to tell about how to go about making giant round stones levitate.

I want to point something out about the Alexey Machine and that is it's using a Tesla coil, and Tesla Coils make hypersonic sounds we can't hear, and so do you think that maybe all those grinding stones supposed used to grind corn or whatever might just have another purpose? Have you seen some of those grinding bowls with their coarse surfaces? Suppose those were instead being used to transmit energy waves. Doesn't it make sense that doing that would induce a sympathetic response in another object?

Now with the Alexey we have these sonic sound devices, and then we have this other sound device which we haven't been paying attention to that comes out of the high frequency fields, and so now we have a High Voltage AC plate which is probably making hypersonic sound waves in addition to whatever else it may be doing. The more I think about it the less I'm convinced that a typical traditional explanation will explain the phenomena of the Alexey. Stone grinding on stone which has these crystalline formations and piezo electric qualities and so what else is it doing?

The Aether energy field is the counter spacial, which creates by way of disturbances in it's field the products of magnetism, electricty, light, sound, and gravity.
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