Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

I am testing the magnet spin lift by toppling the field axis end over end with a diametric tube magnet glued sideways to the axle of a synchronous wash tube pump motor; As Jerry Bayles does with his axial polarized disc. The field spirals outward along the "A" vector.

The "A" vector in this schematic below, is in the center of the poles along the axis of symmetry. The schematic makes it clear that the "A" vector is the portion of the magnetic field that is PROJECTING AWAY from the source!

Originally Posted by Gambeir

Slightly revised- trying to make it more readable

Thanks ET Power. Not to take anything away from Otis or Hamel, because it's clear that there is a foundation behind those machines, and some of which may perhaps be seen in the ARV in the form of the pie shape of the capacitors.

I've thought about some of the relationships of these and other ideas myself. Energy is concentrated at a point where the anther spin inwards towards matter in a decreasing spiral increases the acceleration which should then have a gravitational effect, or so it seems to me, and ideas like those which spring from people like Walter Russell were likely not unknown to the people that built the ARV and there is one interesting thing to note. Russell thought that gravity was the point of intersection of radiant light. So looking at those pie shapes, the way the machine appears, is as a kind of focused energy beam, and which comes to a point, and the fact that there is likely a magnetic field being applied in a spinning orbital plane at 90 degrees to a vertical electromagnetic power flow; well it sort of looks like a model of earth or something similar, and I could be all wrong with what I've thought and said previously.

What we do know is that crystals/quartz is a driving force. This is about as well established as we can expect right now, but all parts are related, and it might well be I am only still seeing part of the motor system. In other words, the ideas of Walter Russel, Hamel, and others may well be incorporated in to the thoughts that went into designing the ARV. Some of them seem to be, but we do know that a vibrational fluxing of the crystalline material is a part of this system, or any other crystalline capacitor, for there is no other reason why it would have to specifically be a quartz crystal that I can think of.

This would follow very conventional ideas about engineering the vacuum of space. See this.
ADVANCED SPACE PROPULSION BASED
ON VACUUM (SPACETIME METRIC) ENGINEERING
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1204/1204.2184.pdf
https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2184


I've watched John Iwaszkos' video on this while taking notes and while stopping the video to draw out what he is showing. I think this is about the clearest understanding I've seen and with a physical demonstration. Just realize he's just using a piece of quartz and not a quartz capacitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIcq6QEJ2os

So the idea here is we/us/me, well at I am pretty confident that the base of this machine is series of 48 pie shaped quartz capacitors as described previously. We think that the pie capacitors fire off at high speeds in counter opposing manner so as to balance the machine with their thrust. They may also be driven in a cyclical or cycloid like manner, and at high speed, thus forming a vortex of pulsations. Reason being there is a probability of chance that there is a relationship to microwave/radar technology involved, and which may become more clear later on.

Many, many, times I've thought that I've gotten this thing figured out only to discover more and more information. We have to realize that even though this machine maybe 50, 60, or even more years old, it's still a machine which was created by brilliant insightful people.

Right now I'm looking for more information on EHD's (*Electro hydrodynamic generators) and also MAP's (*Maneto Plasma Dynamic Generators). I can speculate on the collection process but it's very thin ice. Normally I like to have a reasonable amount of support to my ideas, but here I'm lacking and in the process of discovery.

Speculation

Notice that in many UFO photos and video's there are areas where there appears to be kind of screening, or a part that seems to resemble a radiator or speaker cover. Something along those lines. In old machines like the ARV this has to do with the power system; the collection of ions from the surrounding environment. The environment is the fuel tank for the center column in my opinion. In newer machines it may have to do with creating a plasma shield.

Right now I think that there is a super-conductive magnet or magnetic cables which, so long as the coolant lasts, is a part of a vacuuming system which collects ions from the environment.

*However this is a big if. I have a lot to learn here and am still researching. It's unclear right now if this proposed vacuuming system involves the silvery grey like disk (*See the sketch I provided) and that disk is located beneath the pilots seats in the ARV drawing by McCandlish, but it could be a a type of super conductive/magnetic accretion disk. The disk would draw in ions which would then be feed to the tornado vortex for separation.

Adding a electron to an uncharged atom makes a negatively charged ion, and removing an electron from an ion makes a positively charged atom. This is the purpose of EHD Tornado in the center column. It takes raw material, which is the surrounding environment, and using the vortex of a tornado it creates the potential for exploitation of these actions. Also note that John Iwaszko tells us that the hull shape is an important part of the capacitor drive, and even though it may not itself be part of the pie capacitors in the ARV design, at least as far we know right now, the preferred shape is that of a classic saucer, with the exterior of the hull carrying a positive charge and would then be a force multiplier.

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

@Gambeir,

Take a look at this "Plasma Loop" video by George Chaniotakis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czI-wvjLork

Originally Posted by gambeir

no there's nothing wrong with humans. You have a distorted understanding if you believe that what's wrong in the world is the result of humanity instead of the result of perverted mental defectives, 99% of whom now account for nearly half the global wealth but whom number no more than a few hundred people. Like ya know, gates says he's trying to give his fortune away. Really, well let me help because i'm pretty sure that i can solve that problem and the world will be a hell of a lot better off without him and his friends hording half the monetary wealth while trying to accumulate more.

You want to help solve humanities problems, then feel free to deliver a thermonuclear device to the next bilderberg meeting or the davo's bankster ball in switzerland next time; that ought to solve about 90% of the global problems in one feel swoop. Right now i'm busy trying to help people look at a 70 year old flying machine with more open eyes so that they realize just how badly those other people are screwing all the rest of us while parading around like they were some kind of kings instead of the criminals that we should see them as.

Originally Posted by Gambeir

“Eizelement” is not the full word but in German this stands for “Magnets”

Originally Posted by mainsen

Hi,
no this stands not for magnets. Its probably "Heizelement" which means heating device/part

regards

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

@Gambeir,

Here it is, your tornado theory at work:

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

[0002]

The idea for this coil configuration comes from the observation of powerful thunderstorms, as described by physicist Dr. Richard Feynman in his Lectures on Physics, a copy of which is enclosed as a reference. Upon reading his explanation, I realized that the thunderstorm is actually a hyperspace physics phenomenon.


[0003]

After the passage of a large lightning storm, people have observed that a car tire rim has merged with the trunk of a tree growing in the ground. Due to the large branches of the tree, there is no possible way that it could slide down the branches and around the trunk. It was observed also that a straw of wheat became embedded in the hard wood of a telephone pole. It turns out that the thunderstorm offers an explanation as to how this can occur.


[0004]

After reading Feynman's explanation, it can be seen that the key to this phenomenon is that there is a downward and an upward lightning bolt, sometimes occurring together if the leader branches into two paths. Bolts of lightning also like to strike tall objects such as telephone poles or trees. Now an electrical current moving downward produces a clockwise magnetic B field, as seen from above. On the return stroke, the current is moving upward which produces a counterclockwise magnetic B field. Thus the thunderstorm produces two huge bucking magnetic B fields which is the magnetic geometry of this magnetic vortex generator. Using my tetrahedron diagram, I will then show that the low density hyperspace energy with its low speed of light is able to pull the rim out of dimension so that it can merge with the tree at the moment the lightning strikes.

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

Take a look at this patent. Vortexing magnetic field on the horizontal plane:

Link to "Rotating Electrostatic Propulsion System":

https://www.google.com/patents/US200...wcAKQQ6AEIWDAH

BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

[0001]

The invention, which is the object of my present application, is a spacecraft propulsion system which develops a spacetime curvature tension utilizing a combination of a rotating radial electrostatic field and a fixed vertical electrostatic field. The two fields create a stress-energy Tzr gradient in the radially direction which is equal to force. The radial field is created on the side of a charged rotating cylinder on the underside of the hull. The vertical field is created by an annular charged ring concentric with the cylinder. Three rotating cylinders are located in a triangle on the bottom of the hull in order to produce a force in any direction in the horizontal plane.

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

Take a look at this patent. Vortexing magnetic field on the horizontal plane:

Link to "Rotating Electrostatic Propulsion System":

https://www.google.com/patents/US200...wcAKQQ6AEIWDAH

BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

[0001]

The invention, which is the object of my present application, is a spacecraft propulsion system which develops a spacetime curvature tension utilizing a combination of a rotating radial electrostatic field and a fixed vertical electrostatic field. The two fields create a stress-energy Tzr gradient in the radially direction which is equal to force. The radial field is created on the side of a charged rotating cylinder on the underside of the hull. The vertical field is created by an annular charged ring concentric with the cylinder. Three rotating cylinders are located in a triangle on the bottom of the hull in order to produce a force in any direction in the horizontal plane.

Originally Posted by Gambeir

I have to say this is kind of shocking...actually...
I say this because it occurred to me that what I've posted could be mistaken for plagiarism, low level plagiarism, but plagiarism nevertheless.
Well I had no knowledge of this patent, and I doubt that I would have understood it had I not done the work that I have in trying to make sense
of the ARV.

This is interesting; the patent says -"7. Electric polarity switching of the fields in order to reverse the spacetime curvature and therefore change the direction of thrust."This ties in with the ferroeletics and crystals; which is making more sense now because of the amount of money being put in to R&D in those fields


"8. The use of a magnetic vortex generator located above each thruster in order to permeate the cylinders and rings with low density hyperspace energy which would substitute for the embedded magnets in each cylinder."



https://www.google.com/patents/US200...wcAKQQ6AEIWDAH

Originally Posted by ET-Power

You're the man Gambier and onto it!!!!

Keep at it man!

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

I covered the wash tub pump motor and neo tube magnet with a ceramic pot, and got the same lift effect on the plastic dinner plate suspended overhead; So it's definitely the magnetic vortex supplying the lift not he air draft.

The thumbnail sketch below illustrates the direction of diametric tube magnet spin and the plane of the spiraling "A" vector that projects outward away from the magnet. This spiraling field forms a "Magnetic Cushion":

The plastic plate is non-magnetic, but there's a "Lenz Effect" from the magnetic vortex that generates an electrical field. This is causing a powerful static repulsion.

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

Take a look at this patent. Vortexing magnetic field on the horizontal plane:

Link to "Rotating Electrostatic Propulsion System":

https://www.google.com/patents/US200...wcAKQQ6AEIWDAH

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

Here we see an ant riding on a magnetically levitated piece of pyrolytic graphite. The TR-3B hull is made from the same material and hovers over the spiraling "A' vector magnetic vortex field underneath:

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

I covered the wash tub pump motor and neo tube magnet with a ceramic pot, and got the same lift effect on the plastic dinner plate suspended overhead; So it's definitely the magnetic vortex supplying the lift not he air draft.

The thumbnail sketch below illustrates the direction of diametric tube magnet spin and the plane of the spiraling "A" vector that projects outward away from the magnet. This spiraling field forms a "Magnetic Cushion":

The plastic plate is non-magnetic, but there's a "Lenz Effect" from the magnetic vortex that generates an electrical field. This is causing a powerful static repulsion.

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

I got some apparent lift this morning from the diametric magnet attached to the end of a wash tub pump motor. I initially was holding the magnet on the perpendicular to an overhead plastic dinner plate. I realized I was on the wrong plane , and when I re-tried it side ways, Lo and behold, it began to lift the plate as I pushed upwards towards it!

I need to try it again with a barrier to make sure it's not air lift, but it's an exciting result nevertheless.

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

Quote from "Magnetic Vortex Generator " patent:

"Two separate, but electrically connected, toroidal coils of differing radii, carry magnetic flux in opposite directions about their common centerline".

Quadra project:

The coils visibly move upward against gravity when excited:

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess

Here's how it works: