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so I am trying to see if an electrostatic field can spin the magnetic field.
mostly because I can switch an electric field way easier and with more power than I can switch a magnetic field, and an do it way faster than I can physically spin a physical magnet
so I built a rotary switch for high voltage. it is built to charge and discharge the outputs 3 times for every turn of the disk and has 18 outputs around the disk (every 20 degrees)

my first test is the rotary switch to see what change it may make,
it is a spinning capacitor after all.
the spinning parts of the metal starts at 1.5 inches from the shaft and continues out 2.75 inches away from the shaft.

my large high voltage power supply is broken, so I tested with a 6.8KV AC supply that was put into a voltage doubler. so it should be about 19KV DC

my magnetic coil is 1.56 foot in dia. it is 19 gauge wire and is 28.7 ohms for the entire coil. I put 94V DC on it. I could go figure out how strong of a magnetic field that is, but just don't feel like doing math right now. can't run it to long because that is a tad over 300W into it and it starts to get hot after a while.

not sure how fast the disk spins, it is a 12V DC motor (maybe 12-24V ?) that is 1.5 inches dia. and 2 inches long, pulls about 3A to 5A on startup of the disk. takes a couple of min. to spin down after the power is cut. (so I short it's power wires to slow it down faster)

my G force sensor is good to 0.01% of earth's gravity and did not register anything at all.
so I guess next I build the capacitors and see if that gets me any results. the disk likely got ionized and was not much of a square edge field to make things spin. the capacitors should solve that issue.
and my guess is that for this to work I will need lots more voltage. might take me a while to build a new high voltage source. I think I will build a big vandegraph machine (or however it is spelled)
but running tests that I already have parts to first.
almost forgot, before I build the capacitors, will use high voltage pulsed DC out that I have already built to try and make the expanded crystals talked about earlier in this thread.
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Jerry's most poignant tests demonstrate that: "The field of a rotating disk magnet is independent of the motion of the magnet"; There is a latency in the magnetic field that results in the motion of the disk moving through it's own either non-moving or moving very slowly field.

The important and truly amazing fact is that the magnet field continues to move after the rotating disk stops!
Allen, first off great job on bringing that post here. Thanks for doing that, and I also appreciate your analysis of the Bayles pdf.

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so I am trying to see if an electrostatic field can spin the magnetic field.
mostly because I can switch an electric field way easier and with more power than I can switch a magnetic field, and an do it way faster than I can physically spin a physical magnet
so I built a rotary switch for high voltage. it is built to charge and discharge the outputs 3 times for every turn of the disk and has 18 outputs around the disk (every 20 degrees)

my first test is the rotary switch to see what change it may make,
it is a spinning capacitor after all.
the spinning parts of the metal starts at 1.5 inches from the shaft and continues out 2.75 inches away from the shaft.

my large high voltage power supply is broken, so I tested with a 6.8KV AC supply that was put into a voltage doubler. so it should be about 19KV DC

my magnetic coil is 1.56 foot in dia. it is 19 gauge wire and is 28.7 ohms for the entire coil. I put 94V DC on it. I could go figure out how strong of a magnetic field that is, but just don't feel like doing math right now. can't run it to long because that is a tad over 300W into it and it starts to get hot after a while.

not sure how fast the disk spins, it is a 12V DC motor (maybe 12-24V ?) that is 1.5 inches dia. and 2 inches long, pulls about 3A to 5A on startup of the disk. takes a couple of min. to spin down after the power is cut. (so I short it's power wires to slow it down faster)

my G force sensor is good to 0.01% of earth's gravity and did not register anything at all.
so I guess next I build the capacitors and see if that gets me any results. the disk likely got ionized and was not much of a square edge field to make things spin. the capacitors should solve that issue.
and my guess is that for this to work I will need lots more voltage. might take me a while to build a new high voltage source. I think I will build a big vandegraph machine (or however it is spelled)
but running tests that I already have parts to first.
almost forgot, before I build the capacitors, will use high voltage pulsed DC out that I have already built to try and make the expanded crystals talked about earlier in this thread.

Hmm...you're thinking Spacecase0: I see what you're saying and trying to do. I think it's reasonable to test for such a possible outcome.

It's evident an electrostatic field is the propelling force driving the wheel in the experiment replicated by Xavier Borg @ Blaze Labs Research.
Experiments: Experiment 10

I have a couple issues with the Mascart experiment. One is replications, and the second would be replications which give formal data, and the third would be replications which demonstrate levitation.

Supposedly this arrangement will generate an electromagnetic field, but what then is the relative output of the generated magnetic field for a given input of high voltage? If the Mascart device has any value then it's got be capable of generating a useful amount of electromagnetic flux and that's a complete unknown, or at least I've not found any data as of yet.

So at any rate, in thinking about these un~answered questions I've realized that it will take physical experiments to provide some answers, and then I also asked myself the same question you're trying answer with your experiment.
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let me try and answer all your questions (including the ones in the PMs)
the reason I am trying this is that
Smith showed that a physical spinning item can produce measurable results.
in a previous test I have already tried to electrically switch a magnetic field, and either I did not have enough power going into it, or that is not going to work at all.
the ARV and that drone appear to spin the magnetic field with a a spinning electric field. I am not sure this is possible, but I like hints as to how it is done, and I think this is worth testing.
so how to test this on a low budget is the question...
I figured that I should get a measurable result from a physically spinning item.
so building a somewhat high speed rotary switch for high voltage might get me numbers.
it is the data from that I need. from that data I can then design out an electrically switched version that will be way faster than anything physical can spin, but building that will cost money. and the numbers from the test will tell me what to build or if I can even afford to build it at all.

so the rotary switch is a 1/4 inch thick acrylic disk about 7 inches in diameter.
the top is the high voltage, the bottom is ground.
I have a circle of metal a few inches out from the center as the input contact point as the disk spins. each side has 3 lobes sticking out to make contact with the stationary output contacts (looks kind of like the radiation symbol with a big hole in the center). found one that is pretty close
http://sticker4us.com/image/cache/da...ol-500x500.jpg
just get rid of the connecting outside lines and it is what the metal part looks like
the lobes on the top of the disk and bottom of the disk are 120 degrees out of phase (1/3 of a spin).
the stationary output contacts have brushes on each side of the disk at the same point in the spin, so an output contact is connected alternately to the high voltage and the ground 3 times each spin of the disk, charging and discharging that connection 3 times each spin.
so it is not a fantastic capacitor...
but should make a pretty good switch
every 20 degrees of spin another stationary contact is found on the outside of the disk, I plan on making the capacitors much larger than the spinning disk, so the field on the capacitors should "spin" faster than the disk can actually spin when compared to if I had just put the capacitors only on the spinning disk.

so,
if I get a measurable reading, then I will know what to build next.
if I get no reading, then I go for building a better high voltage power source. if still no result I will go back to the magnetic switched version or to spinning magnets. if that gets nothing I will go for making a much larger magnetic field like the homopolar generator that feeds back into itself (but I would have to buy parts to build that)

Van de Graaff Generators are pretty easy to make,
and the few data points I see show the ideal range is about 1.5MV to about 3MV, and a Van de Graaff Generator is about the easiest way to get that sort of voltage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandergraph_generator
a Wimshurst machine makes much more current, but unless it is really big, I am not going to get that kind of voltage out of one (do not use conductive segments if you build one (just use plane glass or plastic disks), the segments are not needed, mess with how much voltage they make, take time to make and install, and are only needed for it to be self starting) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimshurst_machine
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ways to spin the magnetic field

so I was thinking while sleeping about ways to spin the magnetic field
I am currently trying to test if an electrostatic field can spin the magnetic field. seems possible for this to work, the capacitor plates may have to be at least coated in bismuth to get the required effect.

a previous idea I had may work better, but I don't think I ever wrote it down.
a high magnetic permeability item will pull all the magnetic "field lines" to that area. so why not use a high magnetic permeability segmented disk that is physically spinning. and because that is unlikely to be conductive enough to also make a good homopolar generator, let us cast aluminum around that to make it electrically conductive.
potentially this could be a hub with steel rods going out to make a circle, and then just cast aluminum around the rods. this should be strong enough for some pretty high speeds of rotation, and conductive enough to make a homopolar generator.
strikes me as something low enough tech that tesla would have had the ability to build it. and if this is how the ARV is built, then the capacitors are only for steering control.

now there is the idea of just electrically switching on and off magnetic coils that are stationary to get the magnetic field to spin.
I already tried this one (but could have had no enough power going into it). wilbert smith refereed to trying this in reference to trying to get that to move a larger separately generated magnetic field, and he said that the 2 magnetic fields integrated and did not cause a spinning field. so I will not try to reproduce the failure.
he said you needed a weaker field force to spin the magnetic field so that it would not integrate. my assumption so far is that he tried to use an electric field next. but maybe that did not work either.
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Hello to All,

You guys are getting closer every time more...but not enough to gravitate...

At least you will need to generate TWO MAGNETIC FIELD COUNTER SPINS, which will conform an INDEPENDENT GRAVITY FIELD SYSTEM from our Planet.

Like I have written in another post somewhere......there are two effects involved, the Material (Mass) and the "Virtual"(Spatial)...therefore, we could achieve counter spins first within the mass which will eventually project a spatial virtual field...now this way is too slow...some UFO's in the past show this methods...but now they have all plasma crafts, which are basically all virtual gravitational field(s)...

Say Two Fields in Attract mode Spins will enclose themselves within a "Gravitational Bubble", that depending upon their strength, they could start "levitating" or hovering gradually or abruptly according to fields strength.

Now the above method will just make our system ascend or descend from Earth Gravity...gradually or suddenly at speeds beyond our imagination...but, what about translation forward, backwards, sideways, etc??

Then We will need the "Side acting Fields"...which could be just one Field which moves around this "Gravitational Bubble"...again, mechanically or virtually and spatially...up to your knowledge in Magnetism...

Side Acting Field(s) will attract that Gravitational Bubble on the directional vector where it would be actuated...and that could be displaced 360º Spherically around bubble.

To generate virtual or mass counter spinning fields...we do not need to think...that it would be "necessarily required" a solid, massive center (column?)... like a mechanical (physical) axis...it could do without it...meaning also a "virtual center"...which is "hollow" to our perceptions...


Hope this helps you all.

I really enjoy this thread Gambeir!!...and I stop every now and then to watch all your amazing info and nice images.


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thank you,
I have seen what you say years ago, and it was no longer in my mind.
and the ARV had counter rotating fields, so...
you are right, I should have them as well.
counter rotating should be pretty easy to add to what I am already building. so, I will give it a try.
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thank you,
I have seen what you say years ago, and it was no longer in my mind.
and the ARV had counter rotating fields, so...
you are right, I should have them as well.
counter rotating should be pretty easy to add to what I am already building. so, I will give it a try.
Hello Spacecase,


I am glad you will be testing that option as well!!

Like I mentioned before, when we write a "Gravitational Bubble", we all tend to imagine a bubble as a "spherical" geometry...but, if we consider -for instance- a "Toroidal Bubble"... it is still a bubble, except, since it has a hollow center, it has much more "stability" than a spherical bubble.

In reality this could be achieved by having a common cylindrical stator, which projects outwards its magnetic force, instead of inwards as most of stators we all know work...right?

Now, since I wrote and bold out the word "common" stator...is due that this stator would turn two rotors...one CW and the other CCW.

I wish I could have the time to graph all this...but I don't...

The point is that each rotor will aim its magnetic projection not only to a part of the common stator, but also to the other rotor as well.

If we apply "Asymmetrical Technology" here...we could have one rotor where all coils would be North aiming Poles Inward to Stator...as the other one could be also North to have that "counter-spin" right?

But we could also test this setup with one rotor being a South...while other North, right?...then, that space in between both rotors...what would that be?

That's right...an Accretion Disc...

And no matter how fast you spin these two counter rotors...that center stator would be very stable...as long as both rotors have same RPM's.

Hope you guys could picture all this...


Have a good night


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A cross flow might be seen in simulation software of what might happen when two accretion disks merge and at 3:44 the energy vortices's also how an elliptical form produces various turbulence geometries when orbital paths are crossed being different from a single accretion disk alone.
Celestial bodies how they move helps to understand some of the fundamental properties that a space vehicle would encounter.

https://youtu.be/aX0U14s_nV0

At a distance
The distorted magnetic field of saturn with tail
magetic field saturn.JPG

An undistorted double torus showing bloch wall
duble_torus bloch.jpg

Close up bloch wall
A simulation inside permanent magnet.
https://youtu.be/rjnALkkUlNY

Book written Davis and Rawls 1974 page 22 the old and new concepts
http://www.rexresearch.com/davisrawl...vingSystem.pdf
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http://www.rexresearch.com/davisrawl...vingSystem.pdf
I've seen and read that chapter before. Just did again. I consider it bad science. No supporting evidence. And since published in 1974 no credible support or adaptation from the scientific community.

It appears likely to be the source of the misuse of Bloch wall.

Also on that bar magnet diagram they show opposite spins. Mr. Ufopolitics is promoting the same spin direction. I don't believe there is macroscopic spin in the magnetic field. There is on the microscopic scale with electrons causing dipoles, but spin does not carry beyond that level.

Obviously just my opinions.

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Bistander, The reference cited shows part of the historicity of double torus.
Both scientist's work is credible, in some research facilities it is more difficult to
research the papers, the special made instrumentation are not readily available.
Things go missing. I tried here to restore a link to an old document.

It is necessary with this type of simulation to rotate the image to give visual aspect.
Saturn rotates the earth rotates. Coriolis effect shows twist and a close up of the disk is another
sharp transition to perpendicular. The B and H fields are not treated as individual vectors.
Also Bloch wall will get a lot of abuse because science is a work in progress, not perfect.

The drawing 1936 showing double torus is simply a referenced document
supported by it's biomagnetic study. Your narrative; it is bad science and likely
misuse of bloch wall theory 1932 does not concern my effort to relate concepts
of several different fields of science. Thanks for your critical opinion there are
others who can process information differently and will eventually explain this in
simple terms. Misuse of Bloch wall, progress over 86 years speaks for itself. Slow
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I had intended to get back to my own thread today, but got side railed off in to the weeds with the plans of new world order psychopaths and the war over magnets. Guess I'll do that before I get banned from the entire site as a public nuisance. So right now I've been taking my investigation into 1950's cloaking technology. This starts off with understanding the formation of Rolling Clouds.

As you may suspect, these are rolling clouds, lot of em.

https://wordlesstech.com/spectacular-rolling-clouds/


According to the Weather Channel rolling clouds are formed when a cold front overtakes and rides over the top of a warm moist front. This diagram shows a slightly different take on the concept, but generally the gist of it is communicated. Not sure who's got this right but I suspect it's Hunter College, anyways, it's sort of like cold air ramming into warm air can create rolling clouds, which is what the folks at Hunter College say creates rolling clouds.

http://www.geography.hunter.cuny.edu...ud.diagram.jpg
Hunter College, Department of Geography

"The organisation of clouds into rows can be explained by the existence of horizontal roll vortices in the boundary layer"
Cloud Streets

If you wanted to create a rolling cloud formation shaped in to a ring, and to envelope a flying disc shape, then this system developed by MD Helicopters called Notar, or No Tail Rotor, would be a good place to start looking at when it comes to ideas for designing such a system.

Diagram showing the movement of air through the NOTAR system. MD Helicopters.

Notar Technology®

MD Helicopters Youtube Marketing Video & Explanation of the system.
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an update on my test,
got it finished today,
seems as if my high voltage is to much without arcing over, so I only used half the output of my voltage doubler...
powered it up and felt no changes when it was running
so got out my gravity force meter,
now that thing read about 9 to 10% gravity change about a foot distance under the setup, so I got out a scale and it showed no gravity change at all.
having seen this sort of thing before I decided to grab a coil of copper wire and test its resistance, and sure enough, 35 ohms to start, turned into 25 ohms when it was running. (this does fade back up to normal with time)
so it is messing with the conductivity of the copper wire...
want to test more, but it is snowing here and I must go cover my grapes that have already leafed out.
edit:
grapes are all safe now and ran a few more tests.
the effect I saw has nothing to do with the magnetic field being on or off.
also happened to the G force sensor that was at a right angle to gravity, so it is not a directional thing,
I tried to use a time change meter I built, it has 2 identical oscillators at a distance of about 6 inches, the output of the 2 goes into an LED so I can see the rate of flash to tell if they are running at the same speed. just turned in on and it is flashing way to fast to see with eyes, so that is kind of useless right now.
and I seem to have lost my binding force meter...
seems to me that the binding force meter will be the most useful here, but with 1/3 of my sensors missing or broken, it will take me a while to figure out what is going on here.
one more clue that I find odd, when the disk is not spinning the full voltage does not arc over, when it is spinning it does arc over, and it is a larger distance than in other spots where the voltage is coming from.

the main result is that it does appear not to have the intended effect of the spinning electric field breaking up the magnetic field and spinning it, and there by changing gravity
yet there is something here to figure out what is going on.
will keep posting updates as I get time to test

edit again:
an update,
I built a binding strength meter (still can't find the old one), and I get no change out of it.
so I don't have any idea what I built is doing,
maybe it is just messing with my multimeter...
I suppose next test is to try capacitors like the electrostatic lifter or get that expanded crystal thing to work.
but it is spring time, and I am going to go work on setting up a farm, so it may take me a while to get any further on all this.
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Thank you.

Hello Friend,

I am honestly sad to see you go from here...

I only hope you could come by every once in a while to see what's going on...

After am done with Magnetic Field "dilemma"...and finally prove that we were all wrong...by showing true experimenting...

Then I will expose a Full Utility Patent on how to put together your own an functional EM ARV...

Delay reason is because it will show who I am...names...plus there are other EM Components which complements it...that we all need to know before understanding main patent.

I wish you the best of luck in all your future plans.


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Has anyone here seen this before? Has a lot of info on the ARV. Written by a guy named Gordon Novel.
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Many thanks for that book NutzNvoltz!!!

Excellent find!!


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I sure have not seen that before,
thank you for telling us
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No problem, spacecase0. And thank you for all the info you provide with your experiments. Truly fascinating!
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It's nice to see that people are still posting on this thread. I miss Gambeir's great insights but the show must go on!

I was reading about the Kowsky-Frost experiment and it appears that someone replicated the levitating crystal experiment and posted it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyb9bZ5r-AU. It's hard to verify that the crystal was actually levitating but it's very interesting stuff.
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First I want to thank nutzvotz. I had not seen that previously and have yet to read it. I have wanted to come back and give an update of sorts for a very long time. It's been quite a while since I checked on this thread. The people who've followed my babbling deserve some follow up.

What I'd like to say (at this time) is that I am confident that the ARV's primary principles of operation have been deciphered.
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I am confident that the McClandlish illustration is representative of a workable illustration which depicts a Magneto~aerodynamic propulsion system. The ship in whole is probably space capable. There's no reason that it could not be a viable space capable vehicle. I'm not versed well enough to say that it is also FTL (Faster Than Light Speed) capable. It appears it is space capable.

I am indebted to Mathias Bage whose own research unlocked the full scope of understanding on this design. His work was unknown to myself. My complaint is it would have made this task much easier and quicker to resolve had he been admitted to this forum, and which he tells me he has tried repeatedly to do, and others have also told me via emails that getting admitted to this site is problematic.

This appears to be either a serious flaw or active impeding going on outside of the administration because I know others whom undoubtedly hold valuable knowledge also seem unable to obtain access to this site. I know that it took me six months which is completely beyond reason.

As a result I have no choice but to take my work to a site where I'm in personal contact with the owner.

Mathias work is archived as well as stored on Scribed and other sites. Here is a direct download. Although Mathias is humble and claims little, I insist this work be referred to as the MMD, or Mathias Magvid Device in his honor. He reverse engineered a story back to a workable design, and which is part of a theoretical magneto~aerodynamic propulsion system which the ARV is likely to be using. I strongly suggest downloading and saving this information though any one with even a modest amount of understanding can grasp the idea, which is a brilliantly original solution to a unique way to produce an ionized cloud.

http://www.blog.lege.net/Mathias_Bag...-annotated.pdf

I will consider producing a schematic outlining the fundamental principle of propulsion and posting that here at a future time. I'd rather let people take this information and work with it themselves. This is the detectives method; to not pollute others ideas by placing preconceived ideas in peoples heads: There is no telling what another person may envision which if left to their own devices.

What I will further say is that the formative hypotheses I constructed to make this inquiry have proven a successful pathway to take in making this inquiry. That being, the formative hypotheses that this machine has it's roots in the last Global War, that there is nothing in this machine which could not have been created 75 years ago, that it is highly likely (in my opinion) that this machine may have actually been built in prototype form before the collapse of the Third Reich, and that those Nazi Scientists which were imported under operation paper clip immediately began returning to this field of research.

In my view it is unquestionable that by the mid to late 1950's the United States had succeeded in creating a flying saucer. Again, this machine is a workable machine. In my opinion the McClandlish illustration is now verified as a drawing which depicts a workable machine using technology which is well known and understood for at least 75 years.

In general terms I can now logically explain the actions of UFO's using standard physics.

I can also now explain blurred UFO photo's. The predilection for UFO's to be involved with areas where high energy spikes are located, such as thunder storms, volcano's, and high power lines. I can explain cloud cloaking, moving and controlling cloud formations, and the predilection for UFO's to be around water, to take on water (vacuum/pump water onboard). I can probably make a good case that the plasma balls we see flying around are in fact these machines engulfed in a fully ionized plasma ball which makes them largely immune to radar, and highly impervious to projectiles, as well as very likely being more than capable of deep sea diving at pressures which would otherwise destroy any conventional submarine, not to mention being capable of very high underwater speeds.

All this proves is that there really is another civilization your tax dollars have paid for, and which includes every living being on this planet, and not just those in the America's and Europe, but in all of Asia and Africa as well. I'm afraid that the success of capitalism has also meant the success of corporatism, which like all dictatorships has now devolved into yet another totalitarian system of lunatics in charge, but this time round the rich insane crazies have managed to finally succeed on a global scale.

There is no way to physically fight this other than to simply ignore the unlawful self proclaimed authority, at least as much as is humanly possible, and then to find work rounds which will undermine their source of power. One part of which comes from following the invention of this machine as a hidden fact of history and then understanding how it works to see that it isn't a fantasy, but a truth hidden from public view, and so seeing and understanding that is one critical part to succeeding in the mission to remake the world back to a humanitarian system instead of the existing one of slavery, brutality, and mass murder through warfare, diseases, and starvation.

I would very much like to see any illustrations or ideas so please post them without fear if you would like to do that.
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Hi Gambeir, glad I could contribute something to this thread. I know what you mean about being accepted to this forum. It took almost two years from the time I signed up till I was finally accepted! I would like to thank you and Mathias for all the info and insights you have given us on this thread.
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Hi Gambeir, glad I could contribute something to this thread. I know what you mean about being accepted to this forum. It took almost two years from the time I signed up till I was finally accepted! I would like to thank you and Mathias for all the info and insights you have given us on this thread.
Ya know, there might be a good reason it takes a long time and maybe it's not all by accident.

Our next Stop: Hitlers Lunar Redoubt and Why Obama Bombed the Moon. ....snort....only kidding.

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This article from 2015 in Nature (A scientific journal of renown) features an invention entitled a magnetic wormhole.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep12488
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep12488.pdf


While this image below depicts a magnet and a bloch wall.



I think that among other things, this may be a plausible explanation for the bloch wall in a magnet and which is not being recognized as such. I would strongly advise study of this device featured in the article in Nature: I have a sense that this invention is a mirror image of the crew compartment in the ARV. Certainly it raises some highly interesting possible experiments.
I might also add that after having looked at this curious creation for a while you may want to pay some attention to the fact that the outside is coated with a material which is magnetic while the inside is super~conductive, a material which ejects all magnetic fields, and further that this is a sphere which is functioning as a pair of lens. Understand?

I have to really ...really wonder about what takes place inside that sphere or if anyone really knows?

Quantum what you say?


Now I believe the ARV can be explained a number of ways, and this is one of those ways.

Years ago my very first postulate was that the ARV was driven upon an ionized cloud via eddy currents. For reasons I cannot understand there's a lot of resistance to the rather simple proposal. Especially from people whom should have enough expertise to gather the gist of this idea is rather straight forward.

The main problem I had was that I had a learning curve in front of me to cross and that I also couldn't figure out how to approach the problem of generating a large quantity of ionized air, even though I had a good understanding of how nature accomplishes this, but now I've gone sort of full circle and possibly I can now go about this creatively.

Now one of the reasons I posted the link to the magnetic worm hole has to do with creativity and imagination. These people whom created this machine were exceptionally creative and cooperative. Instead of finding everything that won't work they instead approached problems with the idea that either a solution or an alternative could either be found or created. This really is a very military like approach to seemingly impossible problems.

The ARV (as illustrated by McCandlish) is probably not operating on the idea I've suggested here, not entirely anyways, rather it is a more advanced machine, but the origins are likely to include this concept of electro~reactive propulsion.

This ionized cloud based propulsion concept is a workable concept and I believe the Rex Heflin Photo's almost prove that this concept was used in at least some types of UFO trainers, and very likely this propulsion system was in operation during WWII. As time passes more and more trace evidence suggests that there is a good deal of truth to the stories of the Nazi's and UFO's.

In the Heflin photo's you can see there is a disturbed ground beneath the vehicle, but in a photo processing I noticed that the disturbed ground isn't the same as if it would be by any known common propulsion systems like a say one produced by a Coanda effect or fan driven motors like many other inferior and failed concepts for VTOL machines.

There are four photo's of this machine. One is very little shown and that's the last one which is thick black smoke ring.
A very important and significant signature detail still commonly sighted across the planet. This tells us the design is a successful and long lived design.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf

This machine is space capable by means of simply replicating traditional orbital sling shot acceleration, and which once in space it could then use either gravitators or capacitors to propel and control it's flight. So there's nothing in this machine which isn't well within the technical abilities of the 1940's. The only problem is how to create an electron cloud that is sustained and doesn't fly off from the Magvid by centrifigual force.

The electron cloud has no reason to stay around the Magvid without a central magnetic core. A centrifugal force acts to eject the created ionized cloud, while a centripetal force is one which induces a body to follow a curved path. A concept evidently elusive to some supposed experts. Therefore to create a centripetal force a magnetic guide must also be incorporated in to the design.

There are two possible ways which appear in my mind. However one or both may have a distinctly different outcomes as a result of applying what at first seems like a rather straight forward solution.

In the Magvid concept the device is creating an electron cloud, which is an ionized air cloud that is a conductor for electric and magnetic energy. To retain this cloud we have to have a solution. One would be to surround the cloud with a magnetic field. Another would be to have a magnetic core powerful enough to retain most of the cloud.

Here I would urge you to pay close attention to the magnetic wormhole, and beyond I'd say that the way this specific wormhole was created is probably very close to the one which is very likely residing in the ARV, complete with a super~cooled core shell. Remember here what a superconductor does: It ejects all magnetic fields, repels them entirely, and also this crew compartment is a sphere which is double phase conjugation lens. A de~facto Magnetic Mirror in other words and which focuses all upon a single point inside of what appears to be an artificial bloch wall.

In other words, putting a virtual replica of this magnetic wormhole in the place of the ARV's crew compartment is going to create a compartment which is immune from the outside forces and which also contains all the magnetic force inside the sphere to a precise point of focus.

Meanwhile this magnetic wormhole is acting to funnel the magnetic field through the central column. This is all very much a precise description of what is thought to take place with a real magnet. What this may mean however is another matter.



Now the idea behind this propulsion scheme is that the ion cloud is the propulsive field. So you have an ion cloud beneath the machine created by the Magvid, and then above that you have a coil which is pulsed with high voltage charges driving the ion cloud down upon the surrounding atmosphere or ground.

So it's thump, thump, thump which takes place as the energized coil is fired and then recharged. The driving force on the ion cloud are the eddy currents induced in the conductive cloud. This isn't any big mystery at all. This is simply a matter of creating enough motive force the same way any other reactive propulsion system operates. The concept of repulsive eddy currents upon a conductor are illustrated in the video below. Very simple and easy to understand concept. However, there's more to this and which becomes party to an enabling technology. Such as, there is a relative motive force to a moving magnetic field which is reactive to the specific composition of the conductor, and which varies according to the conductors composition. Copper for example may develop a repulsive force up to 35 times that of the magnetic field. This is a reactive motive force which is dependent upon the relative speed of flow of the magnetic field to the conductor. So this is more complex than it appears, but complex in the right way, as we can expect more propulsive force from moving fields than from static fields.

You might notice here that this thumping noise, or drumming like noise is associated with sighting of triangles and perhaps other UFO's.



Now working out an arrangement to produce a containment field for the Magvid's liberated electrons is really one of the more interesting problems to look at. It's something I'm doing right now myself, that is attempting to invent a series of creative schemes which might be employed.

Another point I've noticed is how closely many bits and pieces of this puzzle all seem to fit together with various bits and pieces which appear to be sort of mirrored in the patents of John St. Clair.

Permanent magnet propulsion system
US20060112848A1 - Permanent magnet propulsion system - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060112848A1/en

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This invention is a propulsion system for a train that uses permanent magnets mounted on a rotating iron cylindrical plate carrying a radial current in order to create a spacetime curvature distortion which pulls the locomotive along the track.

US20030209636A1 - Bobbin electromagnetic field propulsion vehicle - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030209636A1/en

St. Clair holds at least 11 patents. Patents are extremely expensive and must be maintianed. That is renewed +$$ and you're looking at about 20K US $ for a US Patent. According to at least one psychic this man is being held incommunicado: Something I would think is entirely possible.

US20030209635A1 - Electric dipole moment propulsion system - Google Patents * Notice anything unusual about this patent Dr. Who?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030209635A1/en

US20030209637A1 - Rotating electrostatic propulsion system - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030209637A1/en

US20060168937A1 - Magnetic monopole spacecraft - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060168937A1/en

US20040200925A1 - Cavitating oil hyperspace energy generator - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040200925A1/en

US20060180473A1 - Water energy generator - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060180473A1/en

US20060071122A1 - Full body teleportation system - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060071122A1/en

US20030230675A1 - Rotor inductance propulsion system - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030230675A1/en

US20070285325A1 - Chi energy amplifier - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070285325A1/en

US20060072226A1 - Remote viewing amplifier - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060072226A1/en

US20040102810A1 - Hyperspace torque generator - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040102810A1/en

US20060014125A1 - Walking through walls training system - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060014125A1/en

US20060038081A1 - Electric dipole spacecraft - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060038081A1/en

US20060144035A1 - Photon spacecraft - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060144035A1/en


US20060145019A1 - Triangular spacecraft - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060145019A1/en

US20030197093A1 - Magnetic vortex wormhole generator - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030197093A1/en


US20040164824A1 - Hyperspace energy generator - Google Patents
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040164824A1/en

US20040164824A1 - Hyperspace energy generator - Google Patents
Abstract
This invention is a braided gold wire coaxial cable of micron size which generates hyperspace energy by coupling to the tetrahedral geometry of subspace, dimension and the Planck mass.

Several of St. Clair's patents are based around his so called magnetic wormhole generator.
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