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Building a better mousetrap.

In the Big Basin sightings one report talks about how close they got walking directly below the drone. These drones were not silent. They had a low pitched hum like one would hear around High Voltage Power Lines. This humming is a clue that High Voltage is nearby. Humming is a property of Magnetosriction, which is then a property of ferromagnetic materials which causes them to change dimensions during magnetization. Wikipedia describes this noise as a product of oscillating AC currents producing a changing magnetic field. Really that's "snot" too helpful quite frankly, but be that as it may, at least you can connect up High Voltage with metalic clicks and humming. Clicks being specifically induced by microwaves.

Now magnetostrictive materials can convert magnetic energy into kinetic energy. This quality makes them able to be made in to transducers. Quartz is our clue here that it's this transducer like quality which peaks our interest. It's the piezolectric potential which is implied by the materials quality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostriction

Here's where it gets more interesting because a link to magnetism has a quality known as hysteresis. "Hysteresis is the dependence of the state of a system on its history. For example, a magnet may have more than one possible magnetic moment in a given magnetic field, depending on how the field changed in the past." This implies a training like formula for the magnetic field influences its' future path. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis


Terfenol-D was initially developed in the 1970s by the Naval Ordnance Laboratory. This is a magnetostrictive material. The technology for manufacturing the material was developed in the 1980s at Ames Laboratory under a U.S. Navy funded program.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terfenol-D

"Soundbug is a small speaker that can turn a resonant flat surface into a flat panel speaker. Soundbug was developed by FeONIC Technology (formerly Newlands Scientific), a commercial research and development company specialising in magnetostrictive audio products-"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoundBug

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Review on Piezoelectric Materials as Thin Films with their Applications
by Ajay Palshikar & N. N. Sharma *Note here this review includes a chart on the Piezoelectric Properties of Rochelle Salt.
http://www.materialsciencejournal.or...-applications/

Home made diamonds, or Q-carbon was the next evolutionary step from converting graphite to diamonds. Amazing yes, but maybe more importantly; "Q-carbon has some unusual characteristics. For one thing, it is ferromagnetic – which other solid forms of carbon are not." "In addition, Q-carbon is harder than diamond, and glows when exposed to even low levels of energy." https://phys.org/news/2015-11-phase-...mperature.html

Piezomagnetism is a phenomenon observed in some antiferromagnetic crystals. Piezomagnetism was observed 1960 in the fluorides of cobalt and manganese. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezomagnetism

Now the rest of this here implies a solid state modeling for generating effects pioneered by machines like the ARV. Yes, if you review these you see it's all about disc drives and thin flilms, but reading here between the lines the implication is that by stacking or layering a controllable magnetic field generating a magnetic field dissymmetry could be engineered.

Giant magnetoresistance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_magnetoresistance

"Colossal_magnetoresistance was discovered in mixed-valence perovskite manganites in the 1950s by G. H. Jonker and J. H. van Santen."

"Colossal magnetoresistance (CMR) is a property of some materials, mostly manganese-based perovskite oxides, that enables them to dramatically change their electrical resistance in the presence of a magnetic field. The magnetoresistance of conventional materials enables changes in resistance of up to 5%, but materials featuring CMR may demonstrate resistance changes by orders of magnitude."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloss...netoresistance
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Hi Gambier,

What do you think of William Tompkins accounts of the S.S.P. story and related information?

He died recently, back in Aug 2017, being 94 years of age, shortly after the his address at the (July) 2017 MUFON Conference.

Have you found any nuggets of information within his interviews regarding this thread topic?
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Hi Gambier,

What do you think of William Tompkins accounts of the S.S.P. story and related information?

He died recently, back in Aug 2017, being 94 years of age, shortly after the his address at the (July) 2017 MUFON Conference.

Have you found any nuggets of information within his interviews regarding this thread topic?
I recognize the name and Richard Dolan and Jeff Rense interviewed him. A big list at the link on Tompkins.
William Tompkins & US Navy Secret Space Program » Exopolitics

Secret space programs were built in to the national defense. The SR-71, the F-117 and endless studies and paper projects we know of show this. The real issue is an alternative civilization built with stolen resources and money being extorted on a global scale for an elite over-lord society. The system has abandoned using pretexts like paper projects for it's money laundering schemes to steal resources, and now it's missing trillions from the nations treasury and has no accountability to anyone, nor does it care.

The United States is being operated as a for profit enterprise by corporate bodies and their crony associates. They choose with their combined tax free donations who will be the next up-coming politico, they choose both sides so that they can't lose. The people are being strip mined with unlawful taxation's and no legal remedy exists. Prima facie evidence of this fact is all around us. The criminality of this theft operation has now reached the absurd. As an example the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) is now requiring toy aeroplanes to pay a registration fee, along with abiding by a mountain of rules and regulations that no one voted on. So this is completely out of control.

Now of course it doesn't take a genius to see who's behind these rules and regulations on one level, but as with the Big Basin Drone images there's more going on than meets the eye, which I promise to get to in a moment, but what it shows is that every part of the government is being turned in to a for profit entity. It is Taxation Without Representation which is tyranny and all corporations are tyrannical dictatorships. The unrestricted warfare on our government by corporations has now officially over-thrown the rule of law. There are no more remediation by legal means if the corporate dictators decide the law is in the way of their plans for becoming absolute rulers.

This administrative ruling concocted by the FAA was challenged and successfully defeated. However the National Defense Authorization Act signed by the President reversed that legal decision. This is corporate america's giant "F you" middle finger given to the people and to the principles of law and the supreme laws of the people contained in our Bills of Rights. What could better serve to illustrate this absolute rulership than to put criminal penalties on a child's toy? To tax that toy, and to threaten all who fail to abide by dictatorial edicts.
Academy of Model Aeronautics - Government Relations
https://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/
https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/model_aircraft/

Thus by corporate decisions, instead of by rule of law, we are all now being taxed and regulated for profit and becoming micromanaged with a privately controlled hiring system that has also militarized our police forces as well as placing those illegally under a national control system of authority. Given that kind of context we need to ask how is it that toy airplanes and toy drones warrant the inclusion into the nations defense such that they require this kind of regulation? What kind of paranoia can warrant the regulation of a balsa and tissue model plane in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2018?

Now I know the propaganda carried a rash of stories about drones doing this and that, but how do we know any of those were real? The National Defense Authorization Act of 2013 legalized lying in the media, and Obama created a ministry of truth in 2016. However, maybe we should be grateful because if they hadn't gotten their way by lying and fake news stories then they would have flown a model plane or a drone into the cockpit window of some airliner and murdered a few hundred people so that would have a pretext for getting their way. It's what they did on 9-11 and it's what they do all the time. If the liars on the news can't convince all of us, then by God a few hundred dead in another mass shooting will, or something like that. This is absolute proof that something is controlling and this something has a plan for itself. This is now getting back to the question of a Secret Space Program and so we have to see how this taxation and regulation of toys relates as a potential threat to such a program.

To begin with there can really only be one possible conclusion: There's things in the sky we can't see, and these things are out there watching right now, or there soon will be things in the sky we can't see watching us and ruling over us. We do not now have drone delivery and we are never going to have Amazon delivering crap via a drone. I mean the idea isn't even logical so the whole story of drones delivering manna from the sky will be half true, only it's not likely to be the manna from heaven we would like to eat. So that story is more fake news; it's a cover story. The plan is for something else to be out there, out the front door, or something that's planned to soon be out side the front door. So of course there's been a secret space program. I don't think that's even debatable. What's is debatable is whether or not it's possible to regain control over the people controlling that program and these are of course the global elites.

It's clear that the technology in the hands of multinational billionaires are light years beyond what we here have touched upon in this forum, and these elites don't want us to even talk about half the things we do on this forum, or maybe any of things talked about on this form. Wealth and absolute power is a disease our founding fathers and the pioneering people before them knew about first hand. People better stop worshiping that if they want their kids to live in freedom. What kind of accepted notion is it that we are all even talking in terms of "elite's" like those elite people (if they are people) are better than the rest of us, or that their needs are greater than those of entire nations? That is just off worldly right there all by itself.

So now we have a situation where we have reasonable cause to think that invisible machines might just actually be outside the front door. Certainly the Big Basin Drone images are our clue that this technology is probably real and that if it is real, then it's logical to figure that these are what fit in to the present authoritarian agenda of taxation and regulation of toys airplanes and so-called drones, but there's more in the past to tell us the scent of this trail is the right path. Recall the rash of new propaganda about people supposedly blinding pilots with lasers? Well ya know they can't just say it's illegal to point a laser in to the sky so they have to invent a pretext. These things tell me there's a lot more going on than just what is being gulped down by some.

What we are talking about is the Secret Civilization which Clif High and others have brought forward in to consciousness. It's not just a secret space program, it's an off planet civilization which is in the making, and this other civilization intends to feed off the rest of us here as their slaves. Willingly or not, and they intend to do that with force of superior arms and technology.

That's the message I'm getting out of the path we are on. This technology isn't being kept hidden from us all for no reason. It isn't being kept secret because it would collapse the world financially, because it wouldn't, it would however destroy the plans of a collective of people who want the power to control the lives of everyone else, and who want to be able to do whatever they want, and to whoever they want.

I think if you look at Tompkins and many others they are telling us what they believe. I don't think that they are out there doing these things because they are like nut cases or working as disinformation agents. I think they are doing their level best to bring what they know and what they have concluded to the public eye because they have a gut instinct about what is actually going on.

PS: Thanks for asking Sputin's, I doubt I've answered anything you asked about but this is really the most I can say.
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I've been thinking a lot and have watched a few more of John Iwasko's videos. So anyways I've been thinking carefully about what we now know and how to create a powerful enough magnetic field that it could generate a magnetic field with enough force to levitate a model from the ground. Right now I'm focused on materials and how they may interact.

We know that if we pass energy through a conductor it will generate an electromagnetic field perpendicular to the electrical energy. OK fine, so basically we finally discovered that a spinning metal disc would transport the electric field through the ionic lattice of a conductor with out resistance. Essentially this creates a super electromagnet, but without any resistance being generated. In that way it's like a superconductor: No resistance.

Superconductive materials act like powerful diamagnetic materials and push the magnetic field out side of their body. Now copper oxides formed the basis for YBCO Superconductive Material. It's a so called Cuprate. Yttrium, Barium, Copper Oxide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yttriu...m_copper_oxide

Now there's another newer version called BSCCO. Bismuth, Strontium, Calcium, Copper Oxide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismut...m_copper_oxide

So now they are taking this stuff and...get this...crushing it into a silver imbedded tape. Also there's cables which sound a lot like the description of the gold and quartz wires described in the article Flying Triangles And The Black Holes On My Fridge

So now looking at those images of the Big Basin Drones I was thinking that the wires on the top, the long curved ones, are for picking up energy remotely as John Iwasko shows in his video collection 15A/B I think they are. The Drone is basically a large ring, so I figure there's a solid state ring doing basically what the ARV's complete system would be doing. I already proposed using microwaves as the energy source because we need to compensate for the fact that we can't spin a metal disc to high enough rpm's to generate a repulsive magnetic field strong enough. Now obviously neither could the builders of the drones or of the ARV, unless they did it by shear scale, so there's got to be a way to work round the problem.

*Revised this paragraph in hopes of making the gist of the idea a little clearer
What about the disc not spinning and the outer antenna ring is instead sending microwave inwards, and the center is a magnet. This makes a lot more sense because the the microwaves orbit the magnetic field. This is how they pull or guide microwaves in an oven. This would mean that the microwave energy is basically doing what it would be doing if you could spin a disc conductor to high enough rpm's. Make sense? Ok, so now they take this so called high temp superconductive material which is imbedded with silver as the conductor, and this is producing an electromagnetic current while the cuprate is ejecting the resultant electromagnetic field, and because the energy is now cycling (*orbital like) it replaces the spinning previously done by a mechanical rotation of the disc (hence no spinning disc) and so now both the conductor and the cuprate should still act as though it were in a super-cooled state without actually being in a super-cooled state. That's my theory right now.

A basic outline for the Big Basin Drones would be a magnetic ring on the inside of the main hole, with a layering of these tapes making up the majority of the surrounding body part, with an outer guide ring that cycles microwaves through it. The microwaves are pulled through the conductor to the magnetic ring. No spinning involved. Power is supplied remotely.

*Note: I Went to add these link a few moments after the post and got chopped of from the forum last night. Cyberphysics - cyclotron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclotron
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I recognize the name and Richard Dolan and Jeff Rense interviewed him. A big list at the link on Tompkins.
William Tompkins & US Navy Secret Space Program » Exopolitics

Secret space programs were built in to the national defense. The SR-71, the F-117 and endless studies and paper projects we know of show this. The real issue is an alternative civilization built with stolen resources and money being extorted on a global scale for an elite over-lord society. The system has abandoned using pretexts like paper projects for it's money laundering schemes to steal resources, and now it's missing trillions from the nations treasury and has no accountability to anyone, nor does it care.

The United States is being operated as a for profit enterprise by corporate bodies and their crony associates. They choose with their combined tax free donations who will be the next up-coming politico, they choose both sides so that they can't lose. The people are being strip mined with unlawful taxation's and no legal remedy exists. Prima facie evidence of this fact is all around us. The criminality of this theft operation has now reached the absurd. As an example the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) is now requiring toy aeroplanes to pay a registration fee, along with abiding by a mountain of rules and regulations that no one voted on. So this is completely out of control.

Now of course it doesn't take a genius to see who's behind these rules and regulations on one level, but as with the Big Basin Drone images there's more going on than meets the eye, which I promise to get to in a moment, but what it shows is that every part of the government is being turned in to a for profit entity. It is Taxation Without Representation which is tyranny and all corporations are tyrannical dictatorships. The unrestricted warfare on our government by corporations has now officially over-thrown the rule of law. There are no more remediation by legal means if the corporate dictators decide the law is in the way of their plans for becoming absolute rulers.

This administrative ruling concocted by the FAA was challenged and successfully defeated. However the National Defense Authorization Act signed by the President reversed that legal decision. This is corporate america's giant "F you" middle finger given to the people and to the principles of law and the supreme laws of the people contained in our Bills of Rights. What could better serve to illustrate this absolute rulership than to put criminal penalties on a child's toy? To tax that toy, and to threaten all who fail to abide by dictatorial edicts.
Academy of Model Aeronautics - Government Relations
https://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/
https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/model_aircraft/

Thus by corporate decisions, instead of by rule of law, we are all now being taxed and regulated for profit and becoming micromanaged with a privately controlled hiring system that has also militarized our police forces as well as placing those illegally under a national control system of authority. Given that kind of context we need to ask how is it that toy airplanes and toy drones warrant the inclusion into the nations defense such that they require this kind of regulation? What kind of paranoia can warrant the regulation of a balsa and tissue model plane in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2018?

Now I know the propaganda carried a rash of stories about drones doing this and that, but how do we know any of those were real? The National Defense Authorization Act of 2013 legalized lying in the media, and Obama created a ministry of truth in 2016. However, maybe we should be grateful because if they hadn't gotten their way by lying and fake news stories then they would have flown a model plane or a drone into the cockpit window of some airliner and murdered a few hundred people so that would have a pretext for getting their way. It's what they did on 9-11 and it's what they do all the time. If the liars on the news can't convince all of us, then by God a few hundred dead in another mass shooting will, or something like that. This is absolute proof that something is controlling and this something has a plan for itself. This is now getting back to the question of a Secret Space Program and so we have to see how this taxation and regulation of toys relates as a potential threat to such a program.

To begin with there can really only be one possible conclusion: There's things in the sky we can't see, and these things are out there watching right now, or there soon will be things in the sky we can't see watching us and ruling over us. We do not now have drone delivery and we are never going to have Amazon delivering crap via a drone. I mean the idea isn't even logical so the whole story of drones delivering manna from the sky will be half true, only it's not likely to be the manna from heaven we would like to eat. So that story is more fake news; it's a cover story. The plan is for something else to be out there, out the front door, or something that's planned to soon be out side the front door. So of course there's been a secret space program. I don't think that's even debatable. What's is debatable is whether or not it's possible to regain control over the people controlling that program and these are of course the global elites.

It's clear that the technology in the hands of multinational billionaires are light years beyond what we here have touched upon in this forum, and these elites don't want us to even talk about half the things we do on this forum, or maybe any of things talked about on this form. Wealth and absolute power is a disease our founding fathers and the pioneering people before them knew about first hand. People better stop worshiping that if they want their kids to live in freedom. What kind of accepted notion is it that we are all even talking in terms of "elite's" like those elite people (if they are people) are better than the rest of us, or that their needs are greater than those of entire nations? That is just off worldly right there all by itself.

So now we have a situation where we have reasonable cause to think that invisible machines might just actually be outside the front door. Certainly the Big Basin Drone images are our clue that this technology is probably real and that if it is real, then it's logical to figure that these are what fit in to the present authoritarian agenda of taxation and regulation of toys airplanes and so-called drones, but there's more in the past to tell us the scent of this trail is the right path. Recall the rash of new propaganda about people supposedly blinding pilots with lasers? Well ya know they can't just say it's illegal to point a laser in to the sky so they have to invent a pretext. These things tell me there's a lot more going on than just what is being gulped down by some.

What we are talking about is the Secret Civilization which Clif High and others have brought forward in to consciousness. It's not just a secret space program, it's an off planet civilization which is in the making, and this other civilization intends to feed off the rest of us here as their slaves. Willingly or not, and they intend to do that with force of superior arms and technology.

That's the message I'm getting out of the path we are on. This technology isn't being kept hidden from us all for no reason. It isn't being kept secret because it would collapse the world financially, because it wouldn't, it would however destroy the plans of a collective of people who want the power to control the lives of everyone else, and who want to be able to do whatever they want, and to whoever they want.

I think if you look at Tompkins and many others they are telling us what they believe. I don't think that they are out there doing these things because they are like nut cases or working as disinformation agents. I think they are doing their level best to bring what they know and what they have concluded to the public eye because they have a gut instinct about what is actually going on.

PS: Thanks for asking Sputin's, I doubt I've answered anything you asked about but this is really the most I can say.
Thanks for addressing my question. You make many important points in each of your paragraphs. I agree with what youve stated and cant really find fault with any of it.

There is certainly so much more going on than meets the eye. In every conceivable way the general populous of society is being milked for profit and kept blinkered, to an almost blind state, not to mention all the methods of control, like the establishment of controlled education.

Being an RC collective pitch helicopter and aircraft flyer myself, there has been little regulation in their use, that is up to recently. Introducing powerful light-weight batteries, F.P.V. systems and the almost flies itself drones are in common place, of course now they want to regulate them and know whos and flying them. One reason apart from turning a profit, is because it is one technology available to the common man, which has the capability of live-streaming in HD resolution, IR vision and could be used as a powerful surveillance tool by anyone. This presents a problem, as this is an unacceptable situation and risk (to them). Who knows what secrets someone could discover with the help of a hobby grade, high-tech drone? Thus they want them to be regulated

My point is though, or my question relates: via the disclosures given by Tompkins and others, is there a some tid-bits of information that can give us direction, a notion or area to study, that we can learn from, (such as the Heim Cosmic Theory), that we can experiment with to help bring an understanding of how some of this hidden secret technology might work and where someone might build a backyard demonstration of impossible physics?
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Thanks for addressing my question. You make many important points in each of your paragraphs. I agree with what you’ve stated and can’t really find fault with any of it.
I imagine you must know the old Chinese saying; "you can flatter a man to jump off a cliff."
To answer you directly I look to Ken Wheeler, John Iwaszko, Mahmoud E. Yousif, Eric Dollard, and *Wilbert Smith: The New Science


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There is certainly so much more going on than meets the eye. In every conceivable way the general populous of society is being milked for profit and kept blinkered, to an almost blind state, not to mention all the methods of control, like the establishment of controlled education.
When it comes to education and understanding the secret to it; what it is, what it was intended to be, where our present global system originated, what's it's purpose and intent, then the authority is John Taylor Gatto.

The Ultimate History Lesson: A Weekend with John Taylor Gatto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8

John Taylor Gatto: The Underground History Of American Education
https://archive.org/details/JohnTayl...nEducationBook

I've watched his 5 hour video series on Youtube twice. I also read his book, which any public library will have available, and would urge any parent to read as well as watching the video's. I was taking notes on Gatto's video's when this certain Southerner side tracked me along with another Secret Squirrel into this ARV inquiry.

I'm pushing this because I know John Taylor Gatto without ever having been introduced. See, my old man was a teacher, a crusader, and he too found what Gatto did, and he too paid the price as Gatto did. This man is a good man trying to what should be. No kid should be subjected to the world that pretends to be education today: We can change that.

As for the ARV I can't even remember how long ago it was that I began this inquest, but it's been a couple years or more. I was pretty clueless when I started this and I don't feel especially a whole lot brighter for the labor, but I am more convinced than ever that this is some pretty old technology. The illustration Mark McCandlish drew up was a pretty solid image of some 1950's flying saucer. It's a good illustration of a saucer that's at least a half century old. If it's not spot on it's at least has key elements. Again, this all might go back to unseen hands using others good intentions to get information to us in the only way possible, and ya know Mr. McCandlish paid dearly for that illustration.

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Being an RC collective pitch helicopter and aircraft flyer myself, there has been little regulation in their use, that is up to recently. Introducing powerful light-weight batteries, F.P.V. systems and the “almost flies itself” drones are in common place, of course now they want to regulate them and know who’s and flying them. One reason apart from turning a profit, is because it is one technology available to the common man, which has the capability of live-streaming in HD resolution, IR vision and could be used as a powerful surveillance tool by anyone. This presents a problem, as this is an unacceptable situation and risk (to them). Who knows what secrets someone could discover with the help of a hobby grade, high-tech drone? Thus they want them to be regulated…
Yes, great points. I also think the cloaking technology is there right now to hide things in the sky and a there's this fear that these spy drones are going to be accidentally discovered, run in to by some kids with a drone or some other disaster, and God forbid someone with a brain makes off with it and discover something. Next thing ya know we got brats on hoverboards running lose.



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My point is though, or my question relates: via the disclosures given by Tompkins and others, is there a some tid-bits of information that can give us direction, a notion or area to study, that we can learn from, (such as the Heim Cosmic Theory), that we can experiment with to help bring an understanding of how some of this hidden secret technology might work and where someone might build a backyard demonstration of “impossible” physics?
Sputin's, in a way this question get's back to education. Throughout this thread I've hammered on the corrupted educational system, but people far more qualified than myself have spoken about the corrupted knowledge.

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence"
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The one thing I learned from being around cops is to never give up, never stop looking, never stop learning, and if you can't live long enough to unravel a mystery then you pass everything you've done off to the next hot dog. Fresh eyes, new life, and new clues can go where others before could not.

Secret Knowledge is in Ken Wheelers book. That's the most revolutionary book in the last 500 years because magnetism is so fundamental to our modern world. There's a reason Ken made the book free: Otherwise it would never have seen the light of day.

Talking with Space Case on the Big Basin Drones he thought that the drones are using some understanding of the magnetic field which can be seen in Ufopolitics video's and Ken Wheeler's book. Spacecase0 tended to think the center was somehow replicating the center of the magnet, that is those round rings and in the middle is the center of the magnetic field. I also sense this is accurate. Call it a hunch but I think this is right. I sense it but can't explain it just yet.

One thing is we are going to have to go back to basics. Science is basically dead. There's not much real science going on in academia. We have to get back to before the overthrow of the traditional scientific method. This requires physical proofs by experimentation. Not by the metaphysics of mathematics that has lead off to the dead end world of make believe sorcery and the witchcraft with make believe science.

Learning is work. It's time consuming, it's draining, it can be frustrating. As the Drill Sargent's I had said; training the body is easy, it's the mind that's hard to train. Combine that with un-learning and you have a personal challenge.

Mahmoud E. Yousif's material needs to be guarded. This is the only solid information I have ever found that has come complete. This is very solid work.

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http://www.exmfpropulsions.com/New_P...on/ExMF-PS.htm

The New Physics, contains background and theoretical papers, these are:
a: Background to the Researches, Introduction to ExMF-PS; UFO Sighting Over Kampala-Uganda; Present Fundamental hysics; The New Fundamental Physics.
b: The Magnetic Interaction, (htm and pdf).
c: Elements Of The Magnetic Lines Of Force, (htm and pdf).
d: The Spinning Magnetic Force, (htm and pdf).
e: The Electromagnetic Radiation Mechanism, (pdf).
f: Electromagnetic Radiation Energy and Planck’ Constant, (pdf).
g: The Photoelectric Effects-Radiation Based With Atomic Model, (pdf).
h: The Compton Effect Re-Visited, (pdf).
i: The Double Slit Experiment Re-Explained, in (pdf).
j: Electron Diffraction Re-Explained (The Intense Magnetic Field Interaction with Crystals) (pdf)
k: The Weak Spinning Magnetic Force (F_W) (The Weak Interaction), in (pdf).
l: The Faraday Effect Explained (pdf)
m: Compton was Greatly Mistaken Using the Quantum (pdf)

In the thread I singled out Mahmoud E. Yousif's paper out on "The Double Slit Experiment Re-Explained" because it has profound implications. This is not a small matter, which is probably why it's not being trumpeted in the Ivy League Towers. It's not just bad enough that it just blew a hole below the water lines of quantum physics, but coming from a Black Man, from Africa: Well at least it's not from an Irishman.


See, there's more involved and this goes back to the corruption of the system. See John Taylor Gatto.

The Double Slit Experiment Re-Explained basically proves that QED (Quantum Electrodynamics is horse SH#@) That's the simple truth.
http://www.exmfpropulsions.com/New_P...ouble_Slit.pdf
Now of course this paper isn't going anywhere's. Not without help.

Is Quantum Physic's real science?
David Deutsch is a physicist at the University of Oxford. I read his book, "The Nature of Reality" a long time ago. Wikipedia says this about David; "He pioneered the field of quantum computation by formulating a description for a quantum Turing machine, as well as specifying an algorithm designed to run on a quantum computer."

Yet again, when I read David's book neither he nor anyone else had a clue what was going on in the double slit experiment. Not at least as explained by Mahmoud E. Yousif in a conventional sense. Now, you have to really appreciate this double slit experiment business for what it means. This is about the nature of reality.

Now is reality made up of quantum bits of the unseen, or is quantum science in reality a manipulated understanding of conventional physics and electrical theory put in to a science fiction format?

In other words, we are looking at a potential case where what is being sold as quantum is in reality a dis-information campaign working off of known and discovered phenomena that's been kept secret, and now this information is being purposely retold in a magical like context in order to derail any real understanding.

Mahmoud E. Yousif talks about the spinning magnetic field, about an external rotating magnetic field, and he's doing that using known and testable information. Replace the word quantum with the word magic and in most cases there's no difference in meaning. I wouldn't be forking over 40 grand a year to study quantum anything, let alone with the free information that's available on the internet, which takes us back to the purpose of education.

So right now I would say there's these people and then there's the people they themselves recommend: Ken Wheeler, John Iwaszko, Mahmoud E. Yousif, Eric Dollard, and John Taylor Gatto. *Wilbert Smith: The New Science is like the precursor to all of this. His thoughts and writings are probably fundamental to the real work that has taken place over the last 50 years. I'm re-reading his work "The New Science."

The first four go together, and Gatto is in a class by himself: Sort of a coming to Jesus if you will, in the sense of; "the truth will set you free."

Naudin is of course an excellent source to consult. The Gravity Shielding Experiment from Chris Hardeman for example. Note here that a disc is a 2D representation of a sphere, which is of course a 3D disc. We are clearly being told things. The crop circles were attempts to communicate fundamentals.
Now of course those are being messed with intentionally by so called fakers and probably by a counter campaign using the same technology. These things, these crop circles, these flying beach ball thingy's that have been reported and seen are almost certain to be coming from human technology. These are not the technology of a Kardashev Scale Type III civilization, of a Galactic capable civilization which would be required to reach our planet. If there's a war in space it's with the Russians or Chinese most likely, and again it would be using secret technology. It's either that or we are actually fighting the Martian's.


http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/gravshld.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChRKs4fJ02I
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSy...ySk5ARozuB3erw
https://www.youtube.com/user/JOHNROMANIWASZKO
http://al-ruh.org/the-new-science-by...rt-b-smith.pdf
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Looking at the "simple stuff"...

Hello Guys,

Even though I am not constantly posting here...I come almost everyday to check on all new posts...

Gambeir, our only difference is my belief in Real Aliens exists...versus yours not believing.

Beyond that, I could say I do agree with most you are writing here in a 100%.

And basically, looking at just "simple stuff"...and analyzing it...will get Us all to understand "Our System" as it is now.

I will set a simple example...very simple.

Let's say that "Mr J. Doe" patents a very simple way to build your own flying machine...based on electromagnetism, motors, generators, etc...A BASIC and SIMPLE PROPULSION SYSTEM...But so stable, than EVEN SHUTTING OFF MAIN MOTOR(S)...it will "GENTLY" GLIDE Back to ground, like a feather in the wind...just because its DUAL PROPELLER SYSTEM, will keep running, even after engines are off...and guess what...YES, and still charging the storage batteries bank...

Do any of you believe that Our System would allow something like that to be MARKETED?!

First Department ON TOP of the USPTO and INTERNATIONAL PATENTS COMMONWEALTH (WIPO) "World Intellectual Property Organization"...That would put a BIG SCREAM NOT TO RELEASE SUCH PATENT....would be the DoD (Department of Defense)...Followed by the DoE (Dept. of Energy)...

But looking very simply at J.Doe's patent and his "flying machine"...let's ask some questions:

1- What would happen to all the already build Highways and streets...all over the Planet?...if a very easy to build flying machine comes to the market, so easy that even a solely guy could put it together in his backyard?...And then the Chinese are going to build it in production like they do with all they get to start up making in the Trillions Scale?

2- What would be of Oil and Gas-Diesel Engines Corporations, just in the Aircraft Industry alone?

3- Finally...what do you think would happen to Mr J. Doe and his "brilliant idea"?

What Country in the ENTIRE WORLD would back up his idea and take it to a Massive Production?

And am NOT talking about the design of actual and complex Four Motors/Four Propellers System Drones...BUT SIMPLY JUST TWO...Two Propellers, and Two Motors?

And I am not talking about FREE ENERGY here Guys...but just a simple design, which allows to climb up...then while "Gliding Down", BUT ADVANCING, will keep regenerating Batteries during LONG TRIPS?

A simple and very common way to fly..."Nose Up" then "Nose Down" method...which applies to every single Aircraft we know off...from Commercial Big Jumbo Crafts to small R44 Helicopters...

Above was the simplest form of a new type of Flying Machine...and still, it CONFLICTS with Our ACTUAL System, to the point it would become a "National Security Target"...or Red Flag.


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Hello Guys,

Even though I am not constantly posting here...I come almost everyday to check on all new posts...

Gambeir, our only difference is my belief in Real Aliens exists...versus yours not believing.

Beyond that, I could say I do agree with most you are writing here in a 100%.

And basically, looking at just "simple stuff"...and analyzing it...will get Us all to understand "Our System" as it is now.

I will set a simple example...very simple.

Let's say that "Mr J. Doe" patents a very simple way to build your own flying machine...based on electromagnetism, motors, generators, etc...A BASIC and SIMPLE PROPULSION SYSTEM...But so stable, than EVEN SHUTTING OFF MAIN MOTOR(S)...it will "GENTLY" GLIDE Back to ground, like a feather in the wind...just because its DUAL PROPELLER SYSTEM, will keep running, even after engines are off...and guess what...YES, and still charging the storage batteries bank...

Do any of you believe that Our System would allow something like that to be MARKETED?!

First Department ON TOP of the USPTO and INTERNATIONAL PATENTS COMMONWEALTH (WIPO) "World Intellectual Property Organization"...That would put a BIG SCREAM NOT TO RELEASE SUCH PATENT....would be the DoD (Department of Defense)...Followed by the DoE (Dept. of Energy)...

But looking very simply at J.Doe's patent and his "flying machine"...let's ask some questions:

1- What would happen to all the already build Highways and streets...all over the Planet?...if a very easy to build flying machine comes to the market, so easy that even a solely guy could put it together in his backyard?...And then the Chinese are going to build it in production like they do with all they get to start up making in the Trillions Scale?

2- What would be of Oil and Gas-Diesel Engines Corporations, just in the Aircraft Industry alone?

3- Finally...what do you think would happen to Mr J. Doe and his "brilliant idea"?

What Country in the ENTIRE WORLD would back up his idea and take it to a Massive Production?

And am NOT talking about the design of actual and complex Four Motors/Four Propellers System Drones...BUT SIMPLY JUST TWO...Two Propellers, and Two Motors?

And I am not talking about FREE ENERGY here Guys...but just a simple design, which allows to climb up...then while "Gliding Down", BUT ADVANCING, will keep regenerating Batteries during LONG TRIPS?

A simple and very common way to fly..."Nose Up" then "Nose Down" method...which applies to every single Aircraft we know off...from Commercial Big Jumbo Crafts to small R44 Helicopters...

Above was the simplest form of a new type of Flying Machine...and still, it CONFLICTS with Our ACTUAL System, to the point it would become a "National Security Target"...or Red Flag.


Regards


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All true Ufopolitics except that we don't disagree on aliens existing either. I can make a strong argument either way. The arguments I've presented are the one's the system doesn't want you to think about. I present what I have precisely because doing so put's the system in the hot seat. They can't claim the technology they have is alien technology when I know damn good and well it's not that advanced. It isn't technology from a Type III Civilization. It's far too primitive for that.

The truth is there probably are alien beings living among us right now, but what we have are stories told to us by a covert Corporate Dictatorship of Billionaire Thugs, and they have a reason that they don't want us to see, know, or to meet real aliens. There's a fear in that. Fear that they and their grip on absolute power might collapse as result of us gaining access to an alien creature or alien technology. The more I can get people to call the propagandist a bunch of liar's, the more likely it is we will all get to the bottom of what the truth is.

The billionaires business has been to pollute our air with chemtrails of carbon waste from coal plants, to pollute our lands with toxic lead from gasoline engines, spread cancers and plague via their vaccines, to polluted our oceans with oil and radioactive waste with intentionally flawed and dangerous designs, which is of no concern to them; why should they care, don't they already know there's tens of thousands of other planets they themselves can move on to, and don't they themselves already possess the means to do that?
Filer’s Files #26 – 2017 Kepler Finds 4,034 Exoplanets
Filer's Files #26 - 2017 Kepler Finds 4,034 Exoplanets - National UFO Center

My point in saying there are no aliens makes us all face the true depths of this criminality and the criminal mind. See, the reason they tell us there's aliens is because this enables them to continue living how they always have lived. They can continue to pretend they don't have this technology: We work and they eat. They can have the stars and you and your kids can have McDonalds for a job with a future as, well, probably dead from unemployment and starvation. Either that or gunned down on the street after botching a robbery trying to buy diapers for the kid at home.

UFO Technology may be alien technology. That's neither here nor there. What is of importance to the rulers (Billionaires) is that this technology will end their position as slave masters. That's why this whole topic is so "Verboten.

They are not going to surrender this knowledge. An example might be the designs from Boeing for electric fan jet motors just proves they have plans to keep civilization in the dark ages. Their idea is leave this planet devoid of life because there's thousands of other worlds untouched out there in the Universe and they have the means to reach the stars.

We can't waste time trying to change the way a pack of criminals reasons, let alone survives off of by denying to all others. Don't ya see here now, that asking for disclosure about aliens is the same thing as asking a rapist to stop raping people, or a criminal to stop thinking like a criminal.

The only way we are gonna get these billionaire criminals to disclose anything is at the end of a gun barrel in a firing squad at a public execution for high crimes, or the hangman's noose, and even those have historically failed to force most criminals to confess their crimes or to provide any relief to the victims of crimes. So there's no help from these people, not now, and not ever, we can choose to believe in aliens but so long as these people hold rulership over the planet we will never know. It's not in their interest for us to know.

They are not stinking rich pigs because they are nice people, because they aren't any more nice than the other actors who we have all read and heard about that seem so nice, but whom also happened to have murdered hundreds of people for kicks, or in their case millions of people for kicks.

The reason there's so much control being exerted on our lives may be that there is a concerted effort to detect and to capture aliens living here with us. Others have forwarded this idea and I think there's good reason to believe this is true. However alien space ships are probably not like the ARV or saucers which we now have a developed historical record of, and so these have to be human made machines, and they have to be in the possession of this rulership class. There is virtually no other logical explanation for these other than them being man/woman made contraptions.
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Thanks for all the links and suggestions, I will go through all of the material mentioned. Some of them, like Dollard and Wheeler, Im already well familiar, the others not as much.

Due to current personal circumstances, the information and advice given from John Taylor Gatto, (had not heard of him previously), from the material Ive watched and heard so far is

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Now Im finding out

You know that funny feeling you get, when you introduce something to someone where that information or idea impacts them greatly?

Sincerely, thank you.
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Ok, so now lets start talking about what we think makes sense based on what we have reasoned out. I'm working on cheap sketch to show the ideas I'm going to go over here.


To begin with, back on page 2, Allen posted the double Torus image seen below. What strikes me is the two different sized torus windings. This same dissymmetry in circumference can be seen relative to the ARV's capacitors and the disc beneath the pilots seats. Considering there's power and magnetic flux present then the parallel remains a factor for consideration of how all parts interact. This same dissymmetry is also a part of some of the John St. Clair patents, and is also present in the barbury cropcircle.

Post #55 by Allen Burgess
"Magnetic Vortex Generator"
Quote from "Magnetic Vortex Generator " patent: "Two separate, but electrically connected, toroidal coils of differing radii, carry magnetic flux in opposite directions about their common centerline". Quadra project: "The coils visibly move upward against gravity when excited."


The Disc is beneath the pilots seats in the McCandlish Illustration. The conjecture presently is that this disc is creating an magnetic field. That field would be controllable in order to drive the crystalline based piezoelectric capacitors, and doing so at a high rate of flux so as to induce a relative steady state of vacuum polarization in the capacitors. This polarization is the dipole field created in the capacitor before discharge (*at least this is what I understand).

The disc will be a conductive material of some kind. Materials such as copper and aluminum are thought to react to a moving magnetic field disproportionate to mere eddy currents as measured against other conductive metals. Therefore, copper, aluminum, and bismuth have all been called the AG metals, or anti-gravity metal. Since these are readily available these would be suitable for experimentation. Now the real science behind this reactive quality is covered by Mahmoud E. Yousif, so there's no witch doctoring actually involved, it only seems like it.

Engineer Xavier Borgs' replication of Dr. Marcel Pags patent shows that the disc is creating an electromagnetic field without the disadvantages of resistance heating by virtue of allowing the high voltage to act freely upon the conductor and driving or causing the disc to rotate.
Experiments: Experiment 10

This experimental replication would seem to suggest that either the disc itself must spin, or be allowed to spin as shown in the experiment. Reason says that if we instead induce the electrons to move in an orbital like path through the conductor, then, that orbital path will result in the same state of low resistance and thus increased electromagnetic field production.

Now originally I was thinking to to achieve this microwaves made sense, but I don't actually know anything and so my wiser associates said this was vacuous thinking and that there would be no need for such complexity. In a rare moment of lucidity I decided that maybe I really didn't know what I was doing: I went back to the drawing board. So now I'm thinking what we have here is like a return back to something like my original illustrations with the twisting conductors in tubes.

The idea here is wireless power transmission, and frankly this concept seems to be illustrated in some of the other drawings seen in a couple of McCandlish videos of the interiors of Alien vehicles as reported by abductee's.

In those you can see there appears to be wireless energy transport designs. So in order that this metal disc remain stationary there is an inner winding which rotates in the vertical axis (worm gear style) while the so-called antenna remains stationary along with the disc, and with this concept the energy is then being collected or transmitted, as the case is undetermined right now, and thus the electrons are following this curved path which otherwise would be obtained by the disc itself spinning.

If this concept is correct we have a basic outline for an electromagnetically driven capacitor based vacuum polarization vehicle. As of right now it seems to me that the McCandlish illustration is dead on accurate. At least every part is now explainable along with his later illustrations obtained from descriptions of abuductee's.

All major parts to the Illustration now seem to fit together.
Consult this link for images and explanations of present wireless power transmission. Film based capacitors. Smart Crystals.
https://product.tdk.com/info/en/tech...ess/index.html
https://product.tdk.com/info/en/tech...fcp/index.html
https://product.tdk.com/info/en/tech...tal/index.html
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So now here' a sketch I slapped up to better illustrate the over-all concepts of how the power is managed in this system. All main power is transmitted and received through wireless technology. What kind of wireless system will work best is something members of this forum would know better than I.

In this concept the disc does not rotate, rather the inner coil rotates and pulls the electrons along on the required orbital path necessary to keep the electrons from bouncing around off the lattice structure of the disc's conductive material.

Also note that I marked out an angle between the magnetic field generator and the piezoelectric capacitors, because there is a relative height of unknown proportions, and these will have to determined by empirical testing.

Because a pair of dissimilar sized torus winding's demonstrate a projection field on ferromagnetic materials, I'm thinking that this is also carrying the vacuum polarized field in the same direction, assuming there is such a field because they appear to be one and the same but might not be exactly the same.

*Note: The reason this is pulling the electrons inwards is because it cannot work in the reverse manner. That is, if one were to try to reverse the procedure by projecting the electrical energy outwards, it would not be compelled to move in a curved or orbital like manner without an exterior magnetic field rotating along the edge of the disc, or without the disc itself being allowed to spin/rotate. Also I'm speculating that there may be a core magnetic rod inside the receiving worm gear like coil. If so it would be a magnetic rod at dead center. That's just a thought right now. In any event the magnetic fields center is dead center along the axis of the disc.

PS: So now we have returned to the beginning of this thread but understand it anew. The rotating inner column, what is it, what is it composed of? This topic is once again a subject for discussion and debate. We now can understand it's purpose and what remains is to discuss what would best serves the purpose? That is, is it a metal winding, or is it an electrically conductive gas, or is it an electrically conductive ferrofluid?

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The Astute Observer...cough...will notice here that this whole contraption thingy is sort of resembling a possible pathway to a home based electrical power station. Thanks to Engineer Xavier Borg we now have the basic concept of how to create a magnetic field generator, one which can be controlled, sending waves of power through it, and now we need to create some home brewed piezoelectric capacitors that will be driven by the waves. That is, they will be warped or flexed by pulsed magnetic waves, and these will then cause the crystalline structures of the capacitors to produce electrical energy.

Now I imagine we want any home power stations to remain on the ground so it's advisable to arrange the capacitors to drive themselves towards the ground, instead of towards outerspace. Mentioning this because it's so easy to forget the important things in excitement: Like enjoy that free energy Martians. Alright, well the idea here is to recall the concept of force multiplication (*this is where military brainwashing pays off) so as to use the compressive forces generated by one piezo plate upon another piezo-capacitor plate.

Now if you haven't already ordered a drawing from Mr. McCandlish then you should, because ya know there's more in those drawings than I myself ever imagined and of course it's the right thing to do if you can spare a few bucks. Maybe someone out there will see something I cannot. Certainly I was completely clueless what the heck I was looking at when I first opened mine up. Now though this illustration is showing me more. So the piezoelectric capacitor plates are layered and stacked in odd configurations. This now shows that the idea here is for force multiplication; using one plate to assist the next plate.

You home energy freaks need to look at these things. I'm tired of these phony energy bills. Get busy out there: Enough with the Don Quixote windmill designs.
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been trying to send you a message for a while now, and seem to be totally blocked on the internet from doing so
so here is yet another try.
this was meant to be a PM last week, but being that I can finally post anything, guess I will try here

the smith science is pretty clear about all this, and logic seems to match pretty well
to get over gravity you have to make a time field , likely a shaped one
just like regular gravity, you need the time field to be slower on one side of you than the other.
now to make this field is not so straight forward
you have 3 field forces, any 2 can make the 3rd assuming you get the format correct. for example, a car alternator converts spin and magnetic to electric (all at 90 degrees to each other)
so how a time field is actually created is you need a magnetic field, a regular magnetic field. next you need to spin it (not with the field lines as it is not possible). physically spinning magnets works. lots of other physically spinning things should do it
the asymmetrical capacitors do it partially by the magnetic field that is crated from the inrush of current when charging them (this is why the K factor and voltage matters so much, each of these factors increase the current needed to charge it)
now if you want to do a virtual spinning it get harder.
if you try switching the magnetic fields, the fields integrate, so you don't get a spinning magnetic field, just one that changes in magnitude in place.
the way it is done is to take a regular magnetic field and then switch it with an electric field, this using of the electric field to move the magnetic prevents the fields from ingratiating. and that gets the magnetic field to spin (creating the time field).
so the wires on the drone have to be high voltage that is switched in a spinning pattern. and it's magnetic field is just a big magnet in the main body, lots of ways they could have made the magnetic field, and not critical either.
as to the cloaking,
now the question of how do you choose what value of magnetic field to spinning speed. stronger or faster, either combination can get you the same lift. (someone had said that the aliens can cloak, but they don't like to because it makes the craft slower)
my guess is that the faster the spin field the more interesting things get.
when you exceed the speed of light on the outer rim, my guess is that is when the cloaking happens, my guess is that regular light can't get to you then. might be some other effect, but I bet that point something fun happens.
I say all this because smith had an idea that he called unity, and it was half way between zero and infinity, he called unity a fulcrum that a few things depend on. and that got me thinking
the ARV makes its magnetic field with a giant coil that is powered with a homopolar generator, and one that has its electrical output fed back to the magnetic coil it uses, this is one of the few things that can actually make an infinate magnetic field (with a finite amount of current, so it is possible to physically build it). so how many gauss is halfway to infinity ?
now you can spin the disk to get the power, or you can spin the pickup contact on the outer rim of the disk, but I bet it is easier to spin the disk. either way, it is this mechanical energy of the spin that is put into the magnetic field.
so once the electric energy is put into the capasitors and spins the magnetic field, the ARV gets its power by collecting electricity using magnetic coils that are labled oxygen tanks on the drawings (ther emay be oxygen inside tanks in the center of the coils as well)
the coils get the power from the spinning magnetic field, so I suspect that this is how tesla figured it out, he was trying to figure out where the extra power in his coils came from.
now the magnetic coil (labled antenna (because it is transmitting)) is smaller than the capacitors, and if you look at how the magnetic flux will spread out as it gets further from the coil, the larger size makes sense, it also shapes the time field to make the time field stronger over the top of the craft.
this leaves the central core of the ARV as space to put the high voltage generator, the large vaccume picture tube (likely mucury vapor to deal wtih the power) sort of switch for the high voltage, and at the top end of it, the batteries to start it, voltage regulators to convert the power from the pickup coils to run everything and charge the batteries, any computers it needs, the motor for the spinning disk, control circitry, and whatever else hardware you need in there.

the use of the expanded crystals is for the standard electrogravics for the steering control to be more effective (and also they are lighter).
and the bismuth coated copper spheres (welded into flat sheets) are just to reduce weight of the metal in the capasitors
a few leaked things show that they were trying to reduce the weight of pervious designs so that it would get off the ground, and this design clearly optimizes this weight savings

after laying all this out, it is pretty clear that you don't need all the fancy weight savings or steering control to make extra power.
might even be able to get away with doing it with physical spinning magnets

does it make sense ?
and by the way, I have seen the experiments you linked to, may have failed to mention that before
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Alien Life.

This post is related to the ARV. It's going to be an introduction to the reality of what exists as opposed to what the corporate propagandists want us to believe. It is related because we are now taking our first steps toward another civilization. If we make it happen, that's all of us working together, we need to vanquish the lies and suspend our disbelief as to what is possible.

Are there aliens out there? Well yea, of course, but what of humanoids? See there is a meme the system has been forwarding. It says that the next steps follow artificial means. These include cyborg attachments and test tube life. The logic that is being sold to these includes the notion that the human mind isn't capable. Notice that all aliens have huge heads and are grown in test tubes. Natural birth isn't possible according to this story. There is a reason for developing this story: Obviously you should be deeply suspicious.

Whereas, the opposite is the actual truth: The human mind is the most powerful computer in all of nature. Human beings were not the creation of aliens, we are not a slave species as sold by many others. Quite the reverse.


Kardashev scale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

This is what humans are capable of. These are very likely humans from a much more advanced civilization caught on video. The very first video clip shows a human from an type III civilization. Compare this to the technology of the ARV. This is what at type III civilization has for technology.

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I ripped this information off from The Living Moon. I've been wanting to bring this forward because it's illustrative.
What is the Speed of the Earth?

The Earth is moving through 6 angular directions all at one time. The total combined velocity is approximately 574,585 MPH. For every hour a space ship is outside of the Suns' Heliosphere, which is our Star's cocoon surrounding our solar system, the Earth and the entire solar system has moved over a half million miles, and in different directions within our own galaxy. The fastest human spaceflight was the crew of NASA's Apollo 10 moon mission reaching a top speed of 24,791 mph (39,897 kph) relative to Earth as they rocketed back to our planet on May 26, 1969.
https://www.space.com/11337-human-sp...niversary.html

Earths' Speeds.
69,361 MPH Spin and Orbit
43,200 MPH Towards Lambda Herculis
15,624 MPH Perpendicular to Galactic Plane
446,400 MPH Orbiting the Galactic Center {or Galactic Spin Rate}
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574,585 MPH is the estimated speed of Earth within Our Galaxy. Our galaxy, the Milkyway, is itself moving through the Universe at around 1,339,200 miles per hour. Now 99% of us wouldn't have a payers chance in hell of ever correctly figuring out how to get back just on the basis of mathematical equations used to calculate the angular velocities and spins. If there is such a thing as a sensible argument for artificial intelligence, and I haven't heard one yet, it's to solve these kinds of problems.

In the face of these facts there is absolutely no possible way to reach the earth from within our own galaxy by conventional means. If we are to believe NASA, or for that matter any officially approved scientists, the chances of humanity even reaching mars is decades away, and only with billions of dollars in funding.

The point of this is to show that any alien or humanoids visiting this far flung outpost of the Milkyway, and we are way out on the fringes of the galaxy, have to be coming from a society whose technology appears to be magical. For the ARV to be galactic capable it's got to be capable of millions of miles per hour, or it has to be capable of creating a wormhole of some kind.

Humans whom may be living here among us, but who come from elsewhere, are going to have technology from home. Don't ya think the powers that be are well aware of that? You think people just sit around creating fake video's for the hell of it? Like everyone just happens to have crap load of software and computers with nothing better to do huh? Now, I don't know about the rest of you out there, but frankly I'm lazy as hell, yet adept enough with art that even I don't have time for the fake video's: Those have to be coming from corporate operations because if they aren't you and your clown friends are probably going to get a visit from men in dark suits. OK, you are only allowed to do so much in certain areas. Why, because they are looking for these otherworldly humans, and clowns making fake videos' of them are asking for serious problems.

If you think they got us all terrorized and lining up at airports because of terrorist then you need to do some fact checking on the value of human life to the rulers. You think camera's are being put everywhere for your protection? You think cell phones, TV's, car computer systems, and much more are all just accidental? Just the natural progression of technology? The powers that be kept the world in the dark ages for thousands of years. They can repeat that any time they want right now. That may change but not right this second. Right this second, the very moment the power goes down and stays down, you and everything you've ever known will be back to the 16th century in 90 days. Providing you live see another 16th century.

The record of the self proclaimed rulers is anything but gratuitous. If we the people get any technology it's only because it either escapes their control, or is given for reasons of control, and not for any other reason. Accidents do not happen. History doesn't just repeat itself. Muggles think like this, and a muggle is an anagram for ugly mug. These video's are escaped video's that have been actively combated to persuade the gullible. Note that the counter campaign used to mark out the Chinese video's includes a story about a marketing scheme, which comes out after the fact, and that story line has been used over and over. They used the same story to explain the Big Basin Drones. They even had a prepared counter campaign that included a fake dialect made from Japanese and Kingon pictograms put on the drones as a safe guard. Then they released the also fake C.A.R.E.T story about a captured alien drone, only to then still later reveal the writing on the both the big basin and C.A.R.E.T drone images both are comprised of Japanese and Klingon pictograms. Thus proving the whole thing was a fraud to every gullible muggle. This is mind control and mind control is largely a product of planed mass propaganda.

Dr. Michael Salla - Eclipse of Disclosure - Secret Space Programs
Published: 19 Dec 2017
There's an extended discussion here on Tomkins by Dr. Salla.
https://wn.com/secret_disclosure
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been trying to send you a message for a while now, and seem to be totally blocked on the internet from doing so
so here is yet another try.
this was meant to be a PM last week, but being that I can finally post anything, guess I will try here

the smith science is pretty clear about all this, and logic seems to match pretty well
to get over gravity you have to make a time field , likely a shaped one
just like regular gravity, you need the time field to be slower on one side of you than the other.
now to make this field is not so straight forward
you have 3 field forces, any 2 can make the 3rd assuming you get the format correct. for example, a car alternator converts spin and magnetic to electric (all at 90 degrees to each other)
so how a time field is actually created is you need a magnetic field, a regular magnetic field. next you need to spin it (not with the field lines as it is not possible). physically spinning magnets works. lots of other physically spinning things should do it
the asymmetrical capacitors do it partially by the magnetic field that is crated from the inrush of current when charging them (this is why the K factor and voltage matters so much, each of these factors increase the current needed to charge it)
now if you want to do a virtual spinning it get harder.
if you try switching the magnetic fields, the fields integrate, so you don't get a spinning magnetic field, just one that changes in magnitude in place.
the way it is done is to take a regular magnetic field and then switch it with an electric field, this using of the electric field to move the magnetic prevents the fields from ingratiating. and that gets the magnetic field to spin (creating the time field).
so the wires on the drone have to be high voltage that is switched in a spinning pattern. and it's magnetic field is just a big magnet in the main body, lots of ways they could have made the magnetic field, and not critical either.
as to the cloaking,
now the question of how do you choose what value of magnetic field to spinning speed. stronger or faster, either combination can get you the same lift. (someone had said that the aliens can cloak, but they don't like to because it makes the craft slower)
my guess is that the faster the spin field the more interesting things get.
when you exceed the speed of light on the outer rim, my guess is that is when the cloaking happens, my guess is that regular light can't get to you then. might be some other effect, but I bet that point something fun happens.
I say all this because smith had an idea that he called unity, and it was half way between zero and infinity, he called unity a fulcrum that a few things depend on. and that got me thinking
the ARV makes its magnetic field with a giant coil that is powered with a homopolar generator, and one that has its electrical output fed back to the magnetic coil it uses, this is one of the few things that can actually make an infinate magnetic field (with a finite amount of current, so it is possible to physically build it). so how many gauss is halfway to infinity ?
now you can spin the disk to get the power, or you can spin the pickup contact on the outer rim of the disk, but I bet it is easier to spin the disk. either way, it is this mechanical energy of the spin that is put into the magnetic field.
so once the electric energy is put into the capasitors and spins the magnetic field, the ARV gets its power by collecting electricity using magnetic coils that are labled oxygen tanks on the drawings (ther emay be oxygen inside tanks in the center of the coils as well)
the coils get the power from the spinning magnetic field, so I suspect that this is how tesla figured it out, he was trying to figure out where the extra power in his coils came from.
now the magnetic coil (labled antenna (because it is transmitting)) is smaller than the capacitors, and if you look at how the magnetic flux will spread out as it gets further from the coil, the larger size makes sense, it also shapes the time field to make the time field stronger over the top of the craft.
this leaves the central core of the ARV as space to put the high voltage generator, the large vaccume picture tube (likely mucury vapor to deal wtih the power) sort of switch for the high voltage, and at the top end of it, the batteries to start it, voltage regulators to convert the power from the pickup coils to run everything and charge the batteries, any computers it needs, the motor for the spinning disk, control circitry, and whatever else hardware you need in there.

the use of the expanded crystals is for the standard electrogravics for the steering control to be more effective (and also they are lighter).
and the bismuth coated copper spheres (welded into flat sheets) are just to reduce weight of the metal in the capasitors
a few leaked things show that they were trying to reduce the weight of pervious designs so that it would get off the ground, and this design clearly optimizes this weight savings

after laying all this out, it is pretty clear that you don't need all the fancy weight savings or steering control to make extra power.
might even be able to get away with doing it with physical spinning magnets

does it make sense ?
and by the way, I have seen the experiments you linked to, may have failed to mention that before
Does it make sense? Let me explain what I understand so far: Wilbert Smith left us a methodological (scientific) process to use as a tool to examine the "Nature of Reality." He left us an unfinished but profound piece of work that is largely unrecognized. This so-called book; "The New Science," is unrefined by today's standards. The tool Wilbert Smith uses to define the concepts which form our reality he called the "Quadrature Concept." He doesn't show an illustration of the concept, nor does he explain it, instead you are left to figure out what it is by careful reading, then re-reading. He may have done this on purpose.

It's taken quite a bit of careful reading to decipher what Smith is blathering about when he's tossing around this term of the "Quadrature Concept." So for those whom are planning on reading Wilbert Smith's book this "Quadrature Concept" is a way of visualizing creation. It is merely a line with another line perpedicular interesecting the first at 90 degrees. This forms a cross, which then has four parts, or a quadrature. This is what Smith means by the "Quadrature Concept." Once you got this idea in your head you can begin to read Smith's writings. Otherwise you're plagued with questions about what he's talking about. It's a big mistake that needs to be corrected with a notated edition.

So the Quadrature Concept is just a visualization shaped like a cross. It has a horizontal line and a vertical line. Understand that alone would help greatly in reading Wilbert's writing. This cross then forms four Quadrants, obviously, and in each quadrant there are three concepts, forming 12 total concepts.

In reading Smith's writings it becomes evident that the true understanding of what the representation of the cross defines is unknown. It isn't a religious icon, though it is that as well, for it cannot help but to become a religious icon, because the icon defines reality. The Iconography of the Cross is of course ancient with many forms repeating through time. You cannot help but feel or sense that Wilbert Smith stumbled upon a lost understanding that was encoded in the cross in the hopes that by religious faith this understanding would survive time.

Wilbert Smith's own experimental work resulted in gravity control not replicated until the middle 1990's by Dr. Eugene Podkletnov. Smith had already shown that by spinning magnets on a wooden disc, a controllable and measured + or - 1% alteration in the gravitational weight was achieved in 1960, and this is where Eugene Podkletnov arrived once more in 1996, or some 36 years later!

Wilbert Smith's work is clearly a visualization inspired by his personal beliefs, and in that there is almost certain be an understanding which has come down to us through time primarily as the holy cross, but by no means the only form of a cross. His writings, which were unfinished, could be refined and explained in a more comprehensible way in my opinion. Right now, the over-all concept forms a working hypothesis that may lead to a theory which can be applied as a working methodology to refine the nature of reality.

I will say this though: It appears to me that Smith's work does form the basis for scientific thought processes which seem to underpin the science of officially denied technologies which this thread is all about. So Spacecase0 does what you've said make sense? It's too soon for me know, to completely agree, but yes, on the whole it does. I know enough about Smith to gather the gist, but I need to really study what he has left us. Right now I'm working my way through his writing. Nibbling bits at a time if you will. I hate to use the term biblical, but what he is saying requires a form of study..like a bible study kind of thing.

Lastly, I've debated about posting this video. It's a boys choir singing "Nella Fantasia." It is a song sung in Italian based on the theme "Gabriel's Oboe" from the film The Mission. However, Universe knows I'm thick as a brick and so, ever so oddly, I stumbled into this video. I don't think the message was accidental. With so many versions of this song why then is this one with wooden crosses and children popping in to my reality? The composer is one of my favorites, like Universe would know that right? So then this video pops in to my world and catches my attention, this happens when I'm all wrapped up in Wilbert Smith and his cross Quadrature business. Yet I'm questioning Smith's own Christian faith as a corruption to his reasoning ability while he was seeking answers about the nature of reality. I'm thinking that if Smith is right then the cross is an ancient encoded icon of a lost, corrupt, and willfully obscured understanding about the nature of reality. I guess Universe decided it needed to validate some of these thoughts.

So anyways, I'm going to post this because this is what Universe does. Universe get's what it want's and what it seems to want right now is more awareness. It seems that is is quite done with the misapplication of power which is working against it's own desires, and so it's doing things now to actively end the existing paradigm that's ruling over us humans, for we are all consciousness of Universe, and the would be kings want un-consciousness to rule with. The powers that be have taken a path in opposition to the desires and aims of Universe. What could possibly go wrong huh? So anyways, for me it was all here, it's all here in this video is my point: 2,000 years of Christianity, past and future represented by the cross and by children, along with the Quadrature, and above it all, like an eagle soaring overhead is the music which is about a Utopian dream world we all seek.


The music was written by Ennio Morricone. It's sung here by the Paris boys Wooden Cross Choir while in Korea. I've included the translated words.
Ennio Morricone | Official website

"Gabriel's Oboe" Nella Fantasia.

In my fantasy I see a just world.
Where everyone lives in peace and honesty.
I dream of a place to live that is always free.
Like the clouds that float.
Full of humanity in the depth of the soul.
In my fantasy I see a bright world.
Where each night there is less darkness.
I dream of souls that are always free.
Like the clouds that float.
In my fantasy exists a warm wind,
that breathes into the city, like a friend.
I dream of souls that are always free.
Like the clouds that float.
Full of humanity in the depths of the soul.

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To keep people following along here informed; I was able to contact John Iwaszko whom graciously replied to an email I sent asking if he could spare some time to look over the ideas presented in the thread.

He also has a new website which has links to all his material.
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So that's it for the moment.
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I had never made the link between the cross and the Quadrature Concept...
the second time I read about the Quadrature Concept I got it (I re read it immediately because I did not understand it the first time, and smith's book is not one were you skip something and have the rest mean anything),
the Quadrature Concept is how a consciousness explores reality in order to make sense of it. (he even tells you this)
the idea is how do you identify something new ?
turns out something new has to be at 90 degrees to the last thing...
after reading the first few dimensions I got how the pattern went (line, area, volume. most people have no issue with the first 3, the next past 3D space is movement, and movement is usually spinning, next is a divergent spin (think tornado movement), this is also known as electricity. the next 90 degrees is the curl effect of electricity = magnitism, and it just keeps going like that ...)
had never occurred to me that others reading it did not understand the idea.
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I had never made the link between the cross and the Quadrature Concept...
the second time I read about the Quadrature Concept I got it (I re read it immediately because I did not understand it the first time, and smith's book is not one were you skip something and have the rest mean anything),
the Quadrature Concept is how a consciousness explores reality in order to make sense of it. (he even tells you this)
the idea is how do you identify something new ?
turns out something new has to be at 90 degrees to the last thing...
after reading the first few dimensions I got how the pattern went (line, area, volume. most people have no issue with the first 3, the next past 3D space is movement, and movement is usually spinning, next is a divergent spin (think tornado movement), this is also known as electricity. the next 90 degrees is the curl effect of electricity = magnitism, and it just keeps going like that ...)
had never occurred to me that others reading it did not understand the idea.
I think Smith's concept of the Quadrature is derived from Quadratic equations but he never say's this specifically.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation

It would have been helpful had he begun by explaining a mathematical foundation underpins his line of reasoning and to name it if that was the case. Otherwise he seems to be making great leaps in logic. You're probably not seeing this because of who you are. You have a foundation that enables you to see what he was talking about without having to think about it, and this is an education in mathematics.

You have to understand that in my time even algebra wasn't taught in public schools. It wasn't a requirement, and even with what little attempts there were to communicate learning, it was done under impossible conditions. I was thrust from a small grade school into a junior high with over 2,000 students, with a math and science class of over a 150 kids in a giant room with three teachers, all wandering aimlessly about. The only thing I learned in the super max prison complex was self defense and hand to hand combat.

You might find that hard to believe, but it's the raw truth, and besides that, I seriously doubt that most of the adults in the general population could have solved any algebraic equations in the 1960's. So math just wasn't there as an educational concern and what little was available couldn't be taught in an insane asylum because that's what public education was where I lived. It was an incredibly brutal and savage environment. William Golding didn't need to ship wreck a bunch of kids to write "Lord of the Flies." All he needed to do was have a school bus dropping them off at Sacajawea Junior High. Christ almighty what a hell hole that dump was. I'm not the least bit surprised that kids are today taking matters into their own hands since the adults are too stupid to recall the wonder years inside a super max.

So anyways I digress, but mathematics has long claimed to be the language of God, so there's a connection between the concepts and this line of thinking about the voice and designs of the Almighty. Smith of course never put's anything in religious terms and only makes a few references to suggest they exist or may have served as inspiration in some way.

Overall I understand what he's doing, but it wasn't obvious to begin with, and I just think it could be done better and more clearly. Of course we don't have Wilbert with us any longer. Anyone who really wants to use what Smith left is going to have work to get it. Hence my reference to a bible study kind of thing...snort
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Here's an update. Mr. Iwaszko graciously took time to bring some greater understanding forward. It now appears that despite the seeming plausible explanations for the ARV which I have previously contrived, there is a major problem, which is that evidently there is no vacuum polarization, at least not as conceived which provides an anti-gravity effect.

Iwaszko's papers and his patent can downloaded a academia.edu from the first link. You have to join academia.edu to gain access to the papers and patent. Simple to do.
John's patent cites two papers I've previously seen, both casting doubt on vacuum polarization as the causative effect for what has previously been called the Biefeld Brown Effect.

Biefeld-Brown Effect: Misinterpretation of Corona Wind Phenomena
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...Wind_Phenomena

Force on an Asymmetric Capacitor by Thomas B. Bahder and Chris Fazi
https://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0211/0211001.pdf

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See the first link for John's Patent on "untethered ion propulsion aircraft" We now return back to the 1960's and dreams of commuting to work by ionocraft.
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So now it seems that there is reason to think that despite what I previously posted, and despite the other academic papers, there is are still unexplained behavior in Quartz. This means the so-called vacuum polarization, which may not exist, does not invalidate the existing hypothesis of how this machine works.

Evidently the materials, which are specific in nature, do react to an electromagnetic field inexplicably. So now the revised understanding means that the hypothesis of vacuum polarization is probably inaccurate, if not voided, but this by itself does not void the physical experimental tests on real world materials. This only means we don't yet understand why a specific type quartz reacts as it does, so the hypothesis of why the material does what it does is invalidated, and which leaves us to re-evaluate what is taking place theoretically, whereas the factual operating principles remain unaffected in so far as what has been contrived here in this thread.

This is a relief and it's the best I can do right now. Evidently materials are going to be critical and since we are not sure what is taking place we have limited knowledge.
By we, I mean us little people, that is we have only the information leaked to us.
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Anyone still interested in this thread should register and download John Iwaszko papers; https://antigravity.academia.edu/JohnIwaszko

Specifically you want to download this paper: "Meteorite/Tektite Identification Tests, introducing a new simple Magnetic susceptibility test & ordinal magnetic scale. Linking electromagnetism with optics and gravity"

In this paper he discusses basic ideas surrounding the accretion of matter in space as related to Telsa's observation that gravity is a shadow, which will become more clear once you read the paper. It is unclear what precisely a quartz stone has as a quality that enables it to behave as it does when charged or uncharged, but it seems related to the lattice structure of the mineral, and the flow of energies through this arrangement; it's interenal crystalline formations which appear to be the key to their behavior. John discusses the magnetism and reflectivity of various rocks in his paper and shows you how to build a cool tool for doing your own magnetic measurement's on stones. Keeping in mind here that light is energy, and that polarized rays should pass electromagnetic energies through the geometrical lattice connections at the points where the materials lattice meets. Simple logic should say that polarized fields meeting at geometrical points produce a resultant action.
The Quartz Page: Physical Properties

So what I think John is suggesting, and which I'm conjecturing, is that polarized light rays interact with an accumulated charges in matter to produce a magnetic field. If the materials lattice structure is of a particular geometry and it's subjected to an electrical charge this then interacts with the atoms of the lattice structure and produces a resultant vector by disturbing the orbits. Rather than accept conventional explanations for why materials such as pyrolitic graphite responds to a laser light, one might suspect that the light passing over the carbon coveys it's polarized field through the lattices which reacts similarly, resulting in a thrust force or an attraction force: One or the other. Further, one might suspect that these materials have been engineered on the basis of an alternative understanding of their potential. One might suspect that the resultant of these actions, that is the interactions between energies moving through a specific geometrical pattern, which is the lattice structure, may then be producing a coherent field.

This idea may be supported by some extremely complex and baffling work done by a woman calling herself "Idea Girl."
https://alienspacesciencenews.wordpr...odes-steering/

See an image here of a hypothetical tetrahedron formation exposed to laser light. You will note that this pyramid like formation is a repeating theme. It's probably not by accident that is the case.
https://alienspacesciencenews.files....g?w=768&h=1024

This paper is on the ability of a pure quartz to transport Helium atoms in quartz. Which has to do with superfluidity and superconductivity.
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...lium_in_quartz

"Kalashnikov et al. (2003) argued that only metastable helium atoms in the triplet state are able to move through defect-free quartz crystalline lattice. These results are in conflict with the Funk et al. (1971)"

This seems to suggest that the importance for helium transport could be aligned with this notion previously laid out about Kapitza's Spider and the Superfluidity of space. While the following paper was done to show the similarities between Heliums' states and superfluidity and superconductivity using the simplest model of BEC (Bose Einstein Condensate) and by using classical experiments such as Kapitza’s spider.

The intro begins with this;
"New approaches to the issue of superconductivity enable to treat Cooper pairs as bosons. In this meaning phase transition from the normal to the superconducting
phase is treated as the Bose-Einstein Condensation (BEC). Analogy between superconductivity and superfluidity is usually demonstrated with a 3 He phase transition to the superfluid state where the two fermions have to create a boson to undergo the phase transition. The simplest model can be illustrated with the classical experiments which show the low temperature behavior of 4 He. Presented experiments are a set of a few famous low temperature effects observed in 4 He: λ transition, fountain effect and Kapitza’s spider"
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"New approaches to the issue of superconductivity enable to treat Cooper pairs as bosons. In this meaning phase transition from the normal to the superconducting
phase is treated as the Bose-Einstein Condensation (BEC). Analogy between superconductivity and superfluidity is usually demonstrated with a 3 He phase transition to the superfluid state where the two fermions have to create a boson to undergo the phase transition.
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it seems as if the nature of reality is an issue with understanding the hardware
if I tell someone they need a magnetic field they seem to know what that is. they can buy a magnet at the store, so they think they understand them.
yet if I talk about a time field everyone seems totally lost.
so here is something that might help with the understanding

reality needs an observer. ( Quantum Weirdness Just Got Weirder: Reality Needs an Observer | Unknowncountry )
and there is a reason that reality needs an observer.
reality is an invention.
consciousness invented the idea of reality, and then started making realities to live in
just look at the dreams you have at night, you create your own custom reality. it is more fluid than the one you are in now, but they are fundamentally the same, physical constants change for various reasons. but the base workings are all the same.
having a reality that is shared with so many others changes things, and this place is shared with so many others.
the astral realms are also shared, but they are more fluid than here.
once you get the idea that reality is an invention of consciousness, it makes way more sense of all these new ideas.
so if we are trying to understand reality, you can figure out much of it by reinventing it yourself. and that is what smith's ideas are meant to show you.
edit: think of it like the invention of poetry, it has a set of rules, and it just was not around before someone came up with it.
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So now I do recall the Helium 3 tower and making note of it, which I believe lead to find the info on Kapitsas' Spider, but ya know I'd forgotten all about it. Thanks for spotting that and bringing it here.
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Fake Reality versus understanding Hardware...

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it seems as if the nature of reality is an issue with understanding the hardware
Excellent post Spacecase!

Quite a while I did not read something like this...

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if I tell someone they need a magnetic field they seem to know what that is. they can buy a magnet at the store, so they think they understand them...

...yet if I talk about a time field everyone seems totally lost.
Beautifully explained!!, same way that "possessing" that magnet bought at the near store for the first time, makes some kind of FAKE REALITY (ILLUSION) which makes "THE NEW OWNER" believe he understands now "all about magnets"...and MAGNETIC FIELDS...



..Then purchasing a CLOCK, (or even carrying one) could give an "illusion", a "make believe" that we all have "CONTROL OVER TIME"...furthermore, also believing they understand a "Time Field"...



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so here is something that might help with the understanding

reality needs an observer. ( Quantum Weirdness Just Got Weirder: Reality Needs an Observer | Unknowncountry )
and there is a reason that reality needs an observer.
reality is an invention.
consciousness invented the idea of reality, and then started making realities to live in
just look at the dreams you have at night, you create your own custom reality. it is more fluid than the one you are in now, but they are fundamentally the same, physical constants change for various reasons. but the base workings are all the same.
having a reality that is shared with so many others changes things, and this place is shared with so many others.
the astral realms are also shared, but they are more fluid than here.
once you get the idea that reality is an invention of consciousness, it makes way more sense of all these new ideas.
so if we are trying to understand reality, you can figure out much of it by reinventing it yourself. and that is what smith's ideas are meant to show you.
edit: think of it like the invention of poetry, it has a set of rules, and it just was not around before someone came up with it.
I agree completely with all the above...We are all observers of our OWN Fake Reality.

Actually, the "Reality" that we are all living in NOW...is due to the "purchasing" of that Magnetism Book in any store or in any classroom...which makes Us all believe we FULLY understand it...just as one example, paraphrasing yours.

They have make Us all swap our TRUE REALITY with concepts believed that belong to "Science Fiction"...or what some call "Fantasy Magnetism"...

When actually, we are all living in a created, "MAKE BELIEVE", FAKE REALITY, where we are ALL FORCED to DENY many TRUE REALITIES that according to this FAKE REALITY only exist in SCI-FI...

And so, we all keep assuring that Flying Saucer's, Motion Perpetual's Machines, Extra Terrestrial Higher Civilizations, Free Energy, etc,etc...ONLY BELONG TO SCI-FI...

And it seems we can not "EJECT", RESET FROM THESE FAKE REALITIES...like the idea that the strongest machine ever built, capable to keep Us all "alive" and "moving, transporting" around the whole planet Earth...and so, if we ever want to keep surviving...

THEN We ALL must keep IDOLIZING, WORSHIPING the STINKING, FARTING, LEAKING, OIL/GAS BURNING MACHINES...

...for all the Centuries to come...

Amen!!



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EDIT: And I forgot to mention that the job done on faking all our reality has been the best and greater, ever work done by a "private group" to mankind for such long time...
They have gathered ALL Theories done for 200 years plus...and "make them all "fit", all "align", even if they must be "stretched out", cut, "compressed", restructured or "patched" here and there...and then some more...in order to "comply" with their convenient agenda...
This job must be really admired, for the way it has been incredibly, neatly conceived, structured over such long period of time...even if it has been done for the destruction of our race and planet...it deserves a big time "applause"...bursting in an ovation...




Just because...we are all STILL "so well trapped" inside this fake reality...there seems no way out of it...
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I agree completely with all the above...We are all observers of our OWN Fake Reality. ...
In your dreams.

But when you're conscious, and sane, you deal with real reality, like the rest of us.

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Actually, the "Reality" that we are all living in NOW...is due to the "purchasing" of that Magnetism Book in any store or in any classroom...which makes Us all believe we FULLY understand it...just as one example, paraphrasing yours.

They have make Us all swap our TRUE REALITY with concepts believed that belong to "Science Fiction"...or what some call "Fantasy Magnetism"...
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You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.
Like my phrase I guess.


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THEN We ALL must keep IDOLIZING, WORSHIPING the STINKING, FARTING, LEAKING, OIL/GAS BURNING MACHINES...
No, we all don't. Many of us hate the things. And did you ever notice that renewables are displacing many of the polution makers?

And again, I fail to see the relevance of fuel burning machines to magnetism or electric machinery.

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You and Ken continue to promote fantasy magnetism. Show us something useful you can do with it.
not sure who you were talking about when you quote yourself...
seen this ? here is something you can do with magnetism
Experiments: Experiment 10
I am going to try another version of this to test what is really going on for sure.
results will be posted to this thread when I have finished building it.
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not sure who you were talking about when you quote yourself...
seen this ? here is something you can do with magnetism
Experiments: Experiment 10
I am going to try another version of this to test what is really going on for sure.
results will be posted to this thread when I have finished building it.
Hi spacecase0,

If you click on the >icon after my handle (bistander) prior to the quote, it will take you to the source post for the context.

Thanks for the interesting link to the levitation experiment. The difference between that and what I referred to as fantasy magnetism is that was pretty much fully explained with conventional science and math. Fantasy magnetism is not. It simply says existing science and technology is worthless and proceeds to show swirling vortex colorful images which I see as interesting but worthless as a tool to do anything useful like converting energy or even information, the primary uses of magnetism in our society.

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Sorry folks, been preoccupied but I am glad to see input taking place. I'm not ignoring Spacecase0 who well knows I share many similar views. Time is innate to our reality because of the way it operates. It isn't, however, applied to convention in most instances in a logical form in my opinion. For example, when one is first introduced to the idea that magnetism produces results over time in an electric field, most are left asking what that means. Rarely is there the description that movement of a field is a flow of time, such that one can then grasp the idea that a moving magnetic field, moving being key, is the explanation for time in conventional theory.

This only leaves us understanding time as movement, and according to what I can grasp, the notion is that that when energy is at it's lowest state time stops. What exactly this translates into is probably something we would have to ask the dead, for they seem to be the ones most close to this state.
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I always liked Salvador Dali's work but I don't think I fully appreciated it until recently. So for that I am grateful to be reminded of the artist's whom can see and tell what science and math cannot make visual to the spatially oriented.

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I don't know why this is an issue for you bistander. I, being a newbee here, do not understand the venom. I've looked at Ken Wheelers book, and I know others I communicate with have as well. The visual evidence alone shows the magnetic field is orbital in shape. All visual cues strongly suggest an orbital pattern. All other understanding logically supports the idea in my opinion.

I am an investigator and and someone who measures truth by logic and by reality of physical observation and demonstrated physical proofs. I do not subscribe to the notion that mathematics can prove anything other how to solve a numerical equation correctly. It isn't evidence of anything other than that. It only becomes evidentiary when it can prove an observed fact, but even here, when one mathematical proof exists, this does not, and cannot refute another mathematical proof which contradicts the former simply because one existed before another.

Two proofs may exist simultaneously with two opposing hypothesis. So we must understand that all knowledge is fluid, all truths are theories because all knowledge is fluid, and all mathematical proofs are subject to revision as a result. Now maybe there is no mathematical proofs to Ken Wheelers work, but that doesn't mean there won't be, and it's not important to me personally because the evidence is manifest. It is prima facie evidence.

A mathematical equation is no proof of reality and cannot ever be one since it is itself a fictional construct of the mind. Humans do not decide what is true on fictional constructs like mathematical equations. They decide what's real in a court of law where falsehoods can be unmasked as fictional inventions, and wherein mathematics has more than once played a role in deceit through the course of human history. No right minded prosecutor would ever employ mathematical constructs as evidence of truth all by themselves. It is a predictor based on past behavior and nothing more. It is not evidence foretelling future behavior of the unknown, it is only capable of making a forecast of behavior based on the past. It is not a crystal ball foretelling the future. That is an error.

Mathematics is just like any other piece of evidence and it is far from being incorruptible because it is only a tool, and above all else it is a fictional construct, one which may be invented to support another fiction, and which is the situation that has now lead to the last 100 years of non-scientific science practicing mental masturbation so profoundly perverted that almost no one can now understand, and which has also not solved gravity nor produced anything of value to anyone, yet again this so called science of mathematics has sucked up vast amounts of capital, and for apparently no gain by anyone other than those now practicing such perversity in bastions like CERN whom claim they are unlocking the secrets of the Universe.

Well if that's the case why am I now 60 plus years old and still traveling on around in a damned airplane that broke ground over 80 years ago, and why am I still in a car that has been around for over a hundred years now? I got one in my own driveway that's now 77 years old I'm thinking about donating to the Museum of Flying Idiots down at the Lazy B. Hell, I know they want it because it will look good sitting next to the F4U Corsair, or towing a B0EING B-17 out on to the tarmac.

Yet again, I'm to believe that you're right and Ufopolitics and Ken are kooks? This when I step out the damned front door of my own house and see a back triangle sitting motionless not more than 600 feet above the tree in my own yard before zipping off and covering 10 miles or more in under one second, which is mach 48 BTW, and yet again we understand what magnetism is huh?

Do you realize how absurd that proposition sounds to someone like me? How absurd that sounds to everyone whose had the same experience? I'm living in the middle of fortress Washington Boeing State, surrounded by military bases, nuclear weapons, missiles, and ballistic submarines. So why not black triangles then too? I mean good lord how stupid do you think I am?

That's why I've posted what a level III civilization human would possess for travel, as opposed to our black triangles, because nobody is arriving here on this mud ball we call home from anywhere's else unless they have something even alot better than these antigravity ships the perverts at Boeing are using to spy on me taking a leak outside. Even a Mach 48 capable machine still isn't good enough to get here from anywhere outside of our own solar system, and who the hell would want to anyways unless they were wanted, which might explain a few things, but at any rate these machines are manifestly ours. They cannot be alien ships because they are simply still too primitive for the job. Let's keep a more open mind about what is going on around all of us, because the lies the system told me are the same lies they are now retelling kids today, it's just an updated George Jensen lie wrapped in a new brown paper bag adorned with mathematical equations saying; Thou shalt not question the Lord your God.

These sons-of- politicans have these ships and they have the understanding and we are all paying for this in time, money, with our lives, and our kids lives. We don't need to be upholding what we think we understand when it's manifestly obvious that it's wrong. People say to me, oh take a picture next time, well the heck with that idea. Next time, if I get another shot, it won't be with a camera. How's that for taking a shot? Perverts sitting over my house are probably the same ones over your own homes, probably stocking your kid would be my guess. Don't kid yourselves people. Anything this advanced has no business hiding behind the doors of national defense. The danger of these people holding this technology secret to themselves far outweighs any concern over national security in my opinion. We all better wake up before it's too late. Let's work together here, and whatever the truth, and whoever is right is meaningless if we all end up as slaves because we have been fooled by criminals who have gotten their hands on technology which is god like and which we ourselves do not have.

This is not an airplane, it is not a missile or a submarine, it is something which invalidates all existing forms of other war making machines. It can defeat all of them and it can enslave all of us. Make no mistake about that. We have already been told this in their movies. Just look at the film Oblivion to see what a robot exterminator really would be like. All research is being directed to this end. This is what AI is about in their end game plan. This is what robotics is all about. It isn't about helping us. When have these people ever helped anyone other than themselves? They live in the sky and your kids will be their slaves. We cannot allow this to happen.

Who are these people you ask?
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