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Old 03-15-2017, 04:00 AM
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These links may be of use:

Patent from 1920 that look's like "coler stromerzeuger"

Han's Coler: Free Energy Generators
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Old 03-15-2017, 04:53 AM
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The bicycle generator might be a decoy but also keep in mind Croatia isnt exactly a rich country with Radio Shacks around and more common than not those people use whats around first. ...
I think a Croatian with with a solid technology and desire can deliver a top notch product. Like Mr. Rimac.
Home | Rimac Automobili

You're falling back on excuses instead of providing any evidence. A starting battery, then bicycle generator, now PMH. Do you know if the system offered by Innovatehno was even magnetic?
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:33 PM
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bistander-have you read the British Intelligence report?Have you read the Rex Research bit on Coler?Have you read what Ive written?I mean actually read not skimmed.I said I believe the unit Innovate has is copy of the unit Coler built to power his house.I also dont think it was destroyed by a bomb as reported.This unit used a starting battery for an input.If what you want is a working unit with schematics and operators manual then what are we here for?I also said I think I know where a unit might be and Im working on tracking it down.36 locations now 35 takes awhile to narrow down.Im sorry I cant give you any instant gratification on this unit and I know many people on this and other sites are getting frustrated with all the failures and scams and disinformation.theres nothing I can do about that either.And you call this excuses?If all you want to do is read stuff here and go and build it then we arent there yet.If everyone would take a piece or 2 and continue on research then things get done faster but If I have to do it all then youll be waiting a long time.
We need someone to find the health report if its on government record in Croaitia.Denis said he has a health certification on it.
We need to know the answers to some of the questions i brought up which I dont have and hope some one here would know or has access to the information from some where.
We need to approach this from a different line of thinking like from the past because that obviuosly doesnt work.I mentioned some of what I saw from my limited remote viewing experiences and maybe someone knows some one more experienced to get more input.
Right now I am working on finding the prototype unit and digging up the rest of my emails to Denis.
I am going to try to build a small scale model with what I find around here and post what my results are as I get there but Im not going to do it all and just hand it over if thats what its going to come to.There are some good links that have just been added to this thread and we need to keep digging.Thats positive results so far when you can narrow things down.
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:22 AM
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Got this on PJ kelly's with nice pic's and schematics,have a look
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Old 03-16-2017, 07:23 AM
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Got this on PJ kelly's with nice pic's and schematics,have a look
Thanks. But that is for the Magnetstromapparat. Good experiment maybe. What is needed is the Stromerzeuger. A similar article on that would be great.

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Old 03-16-2017, 12:01 PM
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Did you read the PDF?


Chapter 9: Passive Systems

The Devices of Hans Coler.

A German naval captain called Hans Coler invented a COP>1 generator in 1925. He called this device the
‘Stromerzeuger’ and for a few watts from a dry battery it provided 6 kW continuously. He was refused
development support because it was “a perpetual motion machine”.

Have a look at this site:
DISC AIRCRAFT OF THE THIRD REICH (1922-1945 and BEYOND)
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Old 03-16-2017, 01:16 PM
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Yes, I read it

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Did you read the PDF?


Chapter 9: Passive Systems

The Devices of Hans Coler.

A German naval captain called Hans Coler invented a COP>1 generator in 1925. He called this device the
‘Stromerzeuger’ and for a few watts from a dry battery it provided 6 kW continuously. He was refused
development support because it was “a perpetual motion machine”.

Have a look at this site:
DISC AIRCRAFT OF THE THIRD REICH (1922-1945 and BEYOND)
Hi quantum,

I read it. That's why I posted.

And the article you link to above is for some flying saucer drive.
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While Coler's Magnetstromapparat did not give the Kriegsmarine a gravitic "free energy" battery for their U-boats, the SS Technical Branch E-IV took the design and turned it into a Konverter for the Haunebu series of disc aircraft which was incorporated along with several Van de Graaf band generators and a Marconi Dynamo filled with mercury, all of which enabled the craft to reduce mass and produce power for the electromagnetic-gravitic Thule Tachyonator 7 Triebwerk.
Why do you think it is relevant?

I'm just trying to figure out the real topic of this thread. Does anybody know what device the OP wants to replicate?

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Old 03-16-2017, 01:45 PM
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Hello Bi,

Here is a link to a video about the device.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dabJMBGMVqI

As you can see it looks like something from a Sci-Fi movie which makes me suspicious about the device. Also since that video was done they have stopped making an offer to deliver the device for free trial to the admin of OU.com as they had previously offered. On OU.com there are some comments from some people that had actually seen it in operation. They say it was bolted down to the floor. Some conjecture is there were hidden wires in the legs that actually supplied the power to run it.

Here is a link to the discussion at OU.com.

InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?

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Old 03-21-2017, 12:07 PM
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Quote from Stefan at OU.Com

""

A member of this forum did send me this email and did not want to be mentioned...
and as InnovaTehno did not contact me again with any excuse, why they did not ship the
ordered device to me, it looks rather like a scam...as they now want money in advance and
I highly recommend not to pay anything in advance...

Now also Gaia has posted that they want to work together with Innova and that puts red flags also on it,
as we still know them from the Faked AUKW KPP story...where many users lost all their money...
https://gaia-energy.org/unser-treffe...o-in-kroatien/

Here is the email:
after 1 month of trying to meet and contact inovatehno my friend from croatia finaly met them and this is what he wrote after meeting with them

First, they drived as around zagreb for 1 hour
FIrst address (from website)
Second address
Arrived there, bussiness zone, lot of small companies, no sign of innova
we called again, someone shady opened door... asking how can he help, we told that were looking for innova and have apotintment
He almost throw us out why we didnt ask him that nicely

he apparently was some kind mafia style security


When we entered some kind of office he went somewhere
Only one blonde older women accepted us
office 2-3 metters with some big box, their first product probably
wooden frame
there were around only empty rooms around place where we were
no sign that we were at innova
she said they moved 2 weeks ago
ok i know that
She didnt tell any technical world from hers mouth in 30 minutes, and said she have new meeting and we must go
No any kind of presentation or anything
i saw PCB of product, its 2x VFD driver
They are using AC DC AC techique
Said they are starting production in Australia, CZ, ukrain, cro, Canada
Investement arrived and nothing else
i said i have investor from CH, he have oped hands to invest up to 14 mil euro
whats true, she wasnt interested at all
Just saying send mail, with questions we will try to help and make it happen
Never seen fu**ed up company like this
if tesla started like this, there wouldnt be any future
Real working prototype should be ready in around 3 months, who knows
ME: so they showed u something or nothing?
Nothing, in room was only wooden frame with first prototype i guess, probably that one from video
some lamps on it, 2x VFD drivers
1 controler board from 1990year , with pic i think
1 layer board
she didnt know how to start it, she fu**ed out my question
i couldnt make picture, she didnt allow
of that unit
this is not way making bussines
1 man company or 10 man company, whatever
from my experience, what usually happens in croatia
they take money and vanish


if this is office i am retard
2 story building
this is office with proto on left upper side
with bars
inside everything empty
this looks like "rent a fake office"
if you had 1 million of investement, will u rent something like this
everything shady about it
i will send 1 email from protonmail
with bait, that i have all their conv and emails and i will tell world what are they doing
will se what they will say


if they start arguing with me, its fake
if nobody answers maybe there is something about it
end quote

Seems a sneaky deal is afoot ??
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Old 03-23-2017, 02:14 AM
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Sneaky deal

Well things arent looking good for the Innovate guys are they?
As soon as I heard they were reneging on the deal made with Stephan and they now wanted money well that brings up a flag for me but I would like to point out 2 things.And one follows the other.
First in a scam or con any scam or con there is an element of truth.These guys and others pulling these games dont just think of this out of a hat .They need something to work with to mold the con or scam around and make it believeable.They usually have a sociopathic or psycopathic mentality but they need something to work with to get going so the trick is to figure out what did they use originally before they perverted it.and this brings me to my second point.
When I talked to Denis he said they found a unit in a location and the old guy was needed to make a copy and get it working.Like I have mentioned previously I have 35 (originally36) locations narrowed down to where this unit might be and I have sent emails and am sending snail mail in some cases to these locations and the people there for details.One has already said nothing here.This will take time and I will post the results here and what I did so I ask a bit of patience on this because this could be the best lead to something that might exist and have worked at one time.I know lots of variables but for the cost of a few stamps and some time I feel worth the effort and if nothing becomes of it and its a dead end so what/Its something else that can be struck from the list.
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Old 03-23-2017, 09:16 AM
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Hi,
In my Country, which is somewhere near the these guys.
Recently, I saw on TV one of my countrymen, who formerly headed a large
bank and pyramidal scam.
He after a stay in prison, now among other things, has Web site
where he offers FE device, and ask for money in advance.
Thing is that he has not any device nor any knowledge on Free energy technology whatsoever,
it's simply a scam.
Anyway I can't be sure. Nor am I interested to check it out.

Have you seen this guy
This is something different. Looks almost unreal.
Looks like he's also not completely sincere in all that he shows there.

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Old 03-23-2017, 01:25 PM
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Hi,

Have you seen this guy
This is something different. Looks almost unreal.
Looks like he's also not completely sincere in all that he shows there.

regards
Hi Padova,

I would not say he is not completely sincere, I would say he does not give away everything he has found out and / or how he achieved it. You may wish to go through his posts at overunity.com forum and then you could perhaps agree with this. He did not ask for any money from forum members, he does not advertise his devices on the internet (he has contracts). I normally read his posts on the forum and this is my impression on him.
Of course I am not here to defend anybody, just I could not help commenting your post above.

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Old 03-24-2017, 08:35 AM
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Hi Padova,

I would not say he is not completely sincere, I would say he does not give away everything he has found out and / or how he achieved it. You may wish to go through his posts at overunity.com forum and then you could perhaps agree with this. He did not ask for any money from forum members, he does not advertise his devices on the internet (he has contracts). I normally read his posts on the forum and this is my impression on him.
Of course I am not here to defend anybody, just I could not help commenting your post above.

Gyula
Hi,
I understand what you mean. I'm just suspicious, nothing more.
I have a schematic of his oscillator. But I've never tried it, there is nothing unusual in it. I guess it's in the components, capacitors, etc. Again, if there isn't some hidden source, field or battery.
It's life, people are forced to do things, to provide existence, or a better life. Nothing unusual.
I'm just suspicious, nothing more.
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Old 03-24-2017, 10:18 AM
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I understand what you mean. I'm just suspicious, nothing more.
I have a schematic of his oscillator. But I've never tried it, there is nothing unusual in it. I guess it's in the components, capacitors, etc. Again, if there isn't some hidden source, field or battery.
It's life, people are forced to do things, to provide existence, or a better life. Nothing unusual.
I'm just suspicious, nothing more.
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The switching must catch the resonant wave at peaks. Tesla mentioned it also - squarewave switchign at twice the sinewave frequency of resonance
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Old 03-24-2017, 10:52 AM
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The switching must catch the resonant wave at peaks. Tesla mentioned it also - squarewave switchign at twice the sinewave frequency of resonance
I was thinking on oscillator which he demonstrated. Without power supply, oscillates and lights LEDs. Only one transistor oscillator. How? :-)
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:08 PM
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Hi All,
I had to reply to the above post that was listed : have you seen this guy?
That's my friend Nelson and I know him personally and I know his work . And is real not fake, all that he shows is real . He has started with nothing and studied and did experiments to come to the understanding that he has .
You say he isn't sincere and doesn't give all the info .
He has a family and business support with his work so if you don't understand watch his video as it shows what he is doing .

He has gone out of his way to help me in understanding and also at his own expense to do so . He new me from no one and did do because I asked him for help . No one else that I ever wrote and asked even replyed let alone sent me info and circuits to help me understand . As he said to me , don't try to think of in standard terms of operation or maybe you head not stop hurting soon.

As he says everyone wants the honey but not the work needed to get it . I have learned much from Nelson and he is my good friend so I will stand up for him personally.
You should maybe learn about someone before you say such things . And is obvious you should study more before you claim is not possible . Look at his videos you can learn much from them .
Nelson is the real deal not fake .

Best wishes

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Old 03-24-2017, 08:33 PM
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I understand what you mean. I'm just suspicious, nothing more.
I have a schematic of his oscillator. But I've never tried it, there is nothing unusual in it. I guess it's in the components, capacitors, etc. Again, if there isn't some hidden source, field or battery.
It's life, people are forced to do things, to provide existence, or a better life. Nothing unusual.
I'm just suspicious, nothing more.
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I was thinking on oscillator which he demonstrated. Without power supply, oscillates and lights LEDs. Only one transistor oscillator. How? :-)
Hi Padova,

Do you mean this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmlpV1MWm40

If you mean that one, then please watch this video too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7l05FmiUWY and notice how small the input current is, it is shown towards the end of the video. Such type of oscillators like Joule thief or LED lighting from 1.2V batteries are the type of blocking oscillators and these can have very low average input current to run LEDs for instance. And remember the run time for such circuits may range from 1-2 minutes to some hours, depending on the microFarad (uF) value of electrolytic capacitors across the positive and negativ supply rails.
Nelson charges up a 1000 uF capacitor (the black one on the PCB) from the piezo lighter and it can surely run the LEDs as dimly as is shown for a few minutes. This is technical reality, not a wonder. If you mean you have the schematic on this circuit, then the other electrolytic capacitor (the blue one) may also help store some energy to help the circuit running for a certain time. From the video the uF value of the blue capacitor cannot be seen.

I hope you understand: he charges up one of the electrolytic capacitors by the HV sparks from the piezo lighter and from the some volts captured in the capacitor the oscillator feeds the LEDs till the charge is consumed. The charged up capacitor is the power supply. Look up how many Joules of energy a certain X value capacitor is able to store when you charge it up with an Y value voltage amplitude. Then consider how long would it take to discharge this capacitor by a load which consumes the same average current from this capacitor the oscillator consumes.

IF you mean another oscillator circuit from Nelson Rocha and not the one I included in the above first youtube link, then please give a link to that oscillator, ok? I may be mistaken here which oscillator you meant.

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I don't know personally Nelson but I admire his work; I think he's an excellent guide, but probably its corporate agreement prohibits him from being totally free.
The care and precision of his videos speak for him.

I replicated her mini radiant exciter circuit, using a different transistor.
The circuit has 2 out: output at low voltage for charging batteries and an output that he calls HV radiant.
The latter I think could be used to charge the capacitors,
discharged continuously in a transformer from which to obtain energy.
But this i s my speculation.

Attached the original Nelson circuit and my semplification
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Old 04-08-2017, 02:34 AM
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Very smart oscillator,
but I still not getting 0mA on the input side.
Transformer T2 is very important for better results.
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